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Title: Legislators set out to confront Minutemen
Source: East Valley Tribune
URL Source: http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=38809
Published: Apr 1, 2005
Author: Howard Fischer
Post Date: 2005-04-01 10:46:21 by Mr Nuke Buzzcut
Keywords: Legislators, Minutemen, confront
Views: 106
Comments: 8

Legislators set out to confront Minutemen

By Howard Fischer, Capitol Media Services

A number of Hispanic state lawmakers are going to Cochise County on Friday to confront armed civilian volunteers from the newly formed Minuteman Project and spread the message that immigrants are good for the country.

Rep. Ben Miranda, DPhoenix, said there is a need to present some balance in what is happening in southern Arizona. The Minuteman volunteers intend to start patrolling Friday along a 40-mile stretch of the Arizona-Mexico border and report sightings of illegal crossings to U.S. Border Patrol agents.

Miranda said all the publicity so far has been about how these volunteers are needed to keep the border safe. But, he said, immigrants also contribute to the economy and provide needed services.

"Part of being there is to make sure our message is out there,?? he said.

That, said Miranda, means showing up at any news conferences or events called by the patrols.

And Miranda said he intends to be very visible.

"So long as it?s a daytime meeting ? and there?s no (Ku Klux Klan) hoods out there ? I intend to get right in the middle of things,?? he said. "I intend to demonstrate by my actions that we will not be intimidated.??

Miranda said Wednesday he didn?t know yet how many other lawmakers would join him. The lawmakers will be accompanied by immigrants rights groups, who have vowed to monitor the Minuteman Project.

The lawmakers? border trip prompted Gov. Janet Napolitano on Wednesday to urge calm to p revent confrontations.

"People are entitled to exercise their First Amendment rights and entitled to assemble,?? she said. "That?s why you can?t stop the Minutemen from coming even though, from a law enforcement perspective, it?s worrisome to have untrained people, potentially armed, performing what should be a law enforcement function.??

The governor said those who want to keep an eye on the Minuteman Project also have the same rights to assemble.

"Everybody?s just going to have to keep calm heads this weekend and over the coming weeks and we?ll get through that,?? Napolitano said.

But the governor said she has no plans to send more Arizona Department of Public Safety officers to the area. She said if Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever "needs additional help we will make that assistance available.??

A Senate panel Wednesday dealt a major setback to efforts to further restrict state-funded services to those not here legally.

The Committee on Higher Education rejected a Housepassed bill that would require students who are illegal entrants to pay the higher tuition charged by universities and community colleges for out-of-state residents.

Wednesday?s 3-3 vote on HB2264 came even after proponents agreed to weaken the measure to permit in-state tuition to at least some of those who were brought across the border ? albeit illegally ? at least four years earlier. Rep. Chuck Gray, R-Mesa, called it "an attempt at fairness.??

Wednesday?s vote angered Kathy McKee.

She is the organizer of Proposition 200, approved by voters in November, which denies public benefits to illegal entrants.

Attorney General Terry Goddard concluded, though, that does not cover all state programs and subsidies.

McKee said there is no excuse to spend taxpayer dollars on higher education for those who have no legal right to be in this country ? even on students who may have been brought here years ago by their parents.

"If children aren?t the responsibility of their parents and their parents? decisions (to cross the border illegally) why are they the responsibility of taxpayers like me??? she asked.

"We?ve already given illegals ? against our will ? a free education K-12 because the Supreme Court says we have to,?? McKee pointed out. "Why do we have to subsidize them to get a higher education, too???

Sen. Victor Soltero, DTucson, said he doesn?t condone people crossing the border illegally.

"At the same time, the people that are here are providing a service to this country,?? he said. Soltero said they pay taxes and Social Security, though most will never collect.

"It really concerns me that people will enjoy the good things, the good services that immigrants provide and, on the other hand, saying that immigrants are only a drain on our country,?? Soltero said.

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#1. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

"So long as it's a daytime meeting, and there's no (Ku Klux Klan) hoods out there, I intend to get right in the middle of things," he said. "I intend to demonstrate by my actions that we will not be intimidated."

Yep, sounds like he's real open minded on the whole affair.

Gosh, I wonder if Pancho Villa will be there, carrying the Zimmerman letter?

Dakmar  posted on  2005-04-01   10:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Dakmar, Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#1)

But, he said, immigrants also contribute to the economy and provide needed services.

LOL

It should say that they steal needed services by clogging up school systems and emergency rooms with their anchor spawn.

With a bit of luck, Miranda will get bitten by a snake

Flintlock  posted on  2005-04-01   10:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Dakmar (#1)

He's an elected legislator in the United States, but he represents the interests of a foreign government and the criminals who invade the US and violate the rights of his own constituents.

Not only that, but he is publically admitting that he intends to disturb the peace while trespassing in an attempt to stir up violence.

He should be arrested, kicked out of office and deported back to Mexico to be with "his people."

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-01   11:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Flintlock (#2)

This is eventually going to devolve into a shooting war. Maybe not this time, but eventually. It's going to get bloody.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-01   11:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Flintlock (#2)

But, he said, immigrants also contribute to the economy and provide needed services.

Yep, they're here to "service" us all right, but only in the way thay a farmer takes a cow to a bull to be serviced.

Dakmar  posted on  2005-04-01   11:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#4)

This is eventually going to devolve into a shooting war

I wish it would. What I see shaping up are lambs going to their slaughter. I understand Fox is senting 1,000 Mexican troops to the border. Bush, and the open border freaks, are traitors.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-01   11:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

The landowners should have these jackasses arrested for trespassing on their ranches.

Lod  posted on  2005-04-01   11:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

This is interesting.. It's also a losing arguement.

I'd humbly ask "How" and "Why" immediately before ripping him a new one.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-04-01   11:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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