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Title: Tucker Carlson: Guest says Big Bang is Nonsense
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FpcXw3Td4Ws
Published: Jan 27, 2025
Author: Horse
Post Date: 2025-01-27 04:01:25 by Horse
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Views: 27710
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#1. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

Guest says Big Bang is Nonsense

The Big Bang Theory is the rejection of God.

1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

--Psalm 14:1-3

So Tucker's guest is correct...the Big Bang Theory is nonsense...foolishness.

Even more so for the Theory of Evolution.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-27   10:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: watchman (#1)

The Big Bang Theory is the rejection of God.

Why?

The Big Bang theory basically embodies the very words of Genesis: "Let there be light". Does in not?

Why would you denigrate any scientific explanation for whatever method by which our universe was created? Is it a foregone conclusion that the creation of the universe was done with some form of divine magic that can never be understood in any way?

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   10:48:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)

The Big Bang theory basically embodies the very words of Genesis: "Let there be light". Does in not?

Actually, the big bang theory does not embody the words "Let there be light"

The big bang theory begins with matter already in existence, super compressed by gravity, which then explodes.

In the Genesis account God speaks the universe into existence...ex nihilo...out of nothing.

A personal, knowable God vs. "some form of divine magic"

This is the debate.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   12:13:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: watchman (#5)

The big bang theory begins with matter already in existence, super compressed by gravity, which then explodes.

Not necessarily. And in fact, I don't think that's the theory at all as it implies a super compressed mass pre-existed the BB. Given the current belief that space and time are related, I understand the BB theory to mark the creation of both.

It is reasonable to believe the universe was created by some means, and it could have been created by some event that happened in an alternate dimension, something outside of this universe. We could call that event an act of God, which is fine, so it doesn't mean the BB theory is rejecting God.

But in any event, & more to the point, we can agree we DO exist and the universe we are in DOES exist. If the BB theory is eventually rejected by scientific community and an alternate theory put int its place, would you necessarily reject that theory as well, just because it is a product of man?

Also, why does being wrong in scientific understanding of a matter equate to rejecting God? We are all wrong about various things in life.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   13:30:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#6) (Edited)

why does being wrong in scientific understanding of a matter equate to rejecting God?

The BB denies that God has communicated to us, that He has told us clearly how He created the universe.

The BB may pay lip service to "God" but adamantly denies that He has intentionally instructed us on His method* of creation.

As to rejecting God, try being a Christian professor (or student) in a secular university. You'll find out immediately who is narrow minded and vindictive.

*(edit: and reason!)

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   14:10:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: watchman (#7)

The BB denies that God has communicated to us, that He has told us clearly how He created the universe.

I would say the BB theory is completely silent about any possible divine communication. And "how" God may have created the universe is far from clear. Simply speaking it into existence is, at best, a very obtuse "method". Certainly it doesn't work for the rest of us.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   17:27:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Pinguinite (#26)

Simply speaking it into existence is, at best, a very obtuse "method".

Why? It is perfectly in keeping with God's abilities.

Certainly it doesn't work for the rest of us.

We are created, not the Creator.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   17:35:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: watchman (#30)

Why? It is perfectly in keeping with God's abilities.

His ability is not in question. The method is. And apparently you reject the possibility that the method God used included a Big Bang.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   17:45:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Pinguinite (#41)

And apparently you reject the possibility that the method God used included a Big Bang.

Certainly God could start with a bang, but He says He started with a word.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   17:48:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: watchman (#44)

In reality a word is an expression of an idea. The word "bang" conveys the idea of a sudden burst. How do YOU know the idea God used wasn't something similar?

As I said earlier, it's all a matter of the fact that God DID NOT write ANYTHING, the bible is merely the musings of ancient people who tried to explain all that exists.

They did get some things right though, perhaps from some ancient spiritual knowledge that exists beyond that which is explainable.

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   17:56:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: FormerLurker (#52)

How do YOU know the idea God used wasn't something similar?

From the Bible...

And God said,

"Said" means speaking, at least to me.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   17:59:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: watchman (#56)

Uh huh. Relying on English words to reflect spiritual Hebrew thought isn't a precise science, especially when not only the words are often mistranslated, but the origin of the words is the hand of a man who wrote them from limited knowledge of much of anything.

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:04:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: FormerLurker (#58)

Uh huh. Relying on English words to reflect spiritual Hebrew

I can do Hebrew...

Plus, I have God's Spirit to help me understand.

It is often a painful process.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   18:09:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: watchman (#62)

I can do Hebrew...

Then you should know that what I've said concerning the mistranslation of Genesis is an absolute fact,

Do you also know Gematria?

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:13:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: FormerLurker (#64)

Then you should know that what I've said concerning the mistranslation of Genesis is an absolute fact,

You have already proven that you are not to be trusted. Now you have doubled down on it.

More wisdom to come tomorrow if I am not banned for speaking my mind. You know free speech and all.

The_Rock  posted on  2025-01-29   23:16:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: The_Rock (#187)

You have already proven that you are not to be trusted. Now you have doubled down on it.

Projection as usual Stone. So tell me, do you think that the Torah was written in English? Or are you just to lazy to research the fact that the verse I discussed was mistranslated?

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-30   15:32:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#223. To: FormerLurker (#195)

Projection as usual Stone. So tell me, do you think that the Torah was written in English? Or are you just to lazy to research the fact that the verse I discussed was mistranslated?

You really think it was originally written in English? How quaint.

It was translated into English. You must think that God is not powerful enough to preserve his word. lol

The_Rock  posted on  2025-01-30 21:34:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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