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Published: Jan 27, 2025
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Post Date: 2025-01-27 04:01:25 by Horse
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#26. To: watchman (#7)
I would say the BB theory is completely silent about any possible divine communication. And "how" God may have created the universe is far from clear. Simply speaking it into existence is, at best, a very obtuse "method". Certainly it doesn't work for the rest of us.
Not if one believes God created the universe via Big Bang. I consider it an assumption that evolution would need to operate by chance.
It's not a mystery to me. Are you saying God cannot create light with just a command?
What existed prior to the BB is touched upon by ancient Jewish thought. Let me try to explain. For one, the words "God created man in his own image" are NOT what is written in the ancient Hebrew. The original Hebrew says "God (plural form) created Man (as in Mankind) in THEIR own likeness. Male and female they were created". Not written in Genesis is the fact they viewed God as male and female, and when God (they) joined together they created a new Universe. ALL life is either male or female, in the likeness of God. Some call it the Duality of Nature. What that means is that God exists beyond our Universe, is in fact ALL Universes that have ever existed, exist today, and will ever exist. Why? It is perfectly in keeping with God's abilities. We are created, not the Creator.
Then what is light if you know how it was created. So that doesn't answer the question. WHERE is heaven? Even this statement does not say that single point was the compressed mass of what is now all the mass in the universe. It could have been a divine event caused by the instant injection of mass that caused the creation of our universe. Some event outside of our universe that caused this universe to be created. In fact, I don't see how anyone believing in an ultimate supreme God could argue that our current universe contains God Himself. God MUST be beyond our universe.
You have no room to accept the possibility that there could have been divine power and design behind either the BB or Evolution?
If one wanted to get technical, one could wonder how anyone could speak if there was no air.. :) A reference to the triune nature of God...Father, Son, Holy Spirit What a wonderful truth. God made us to keep Him company (even though He is complete unto Himself). He will be familiar to us and easy to be with!
Some can't think beyond what they are told.
God would have told us if that were the case. God cannot lie. It is impossible for Him to lie.
Male and female they were created. God is male and female (Father and Holy Spirit), His Son (actually our Universe) is the offspring. You can't trust mistranslated texts from a few thousand years ago to be 100% accurate or complete. Not true. God says, "Prove all things"...which includes proving what the Bible says. Proving stuff requires a lot of thought.
His ability is not in question. The method is. And apparently you reject the possibility that the method God used included a Big Bang.
Show me the verse that says that.
Does God explain nuclear physics, chemistry, or math anywhere in the bible? Do you think ancient Hebrews who wrote the bible would have known anything about those things? God didn't write anything by the way, it is the word of the Jews. Certainly God could start with a bang, but He says He started with a word.
Show me the verse that defines light. And how is a word defined? And how is a word defined? In computer science it's 16 bits.. :) He gave us a mind, and a physical body to observe physics, chemistry, math...nothing wrong with that. Many Christians are physicist, chemists, etc. I study cows...I learned that they did not evolve :)
Show me the verse that defines light. You first :)
I am entertaining the theory that there have been an infinite number of Big Bangs, where all matter clumps up due to gravity over time (think black holes, etc) until it reaches critical mass, much like atomic bomb. Then the Big Bang. Matter is hurled into matterless dimension aka empty space, which must exist simply because it exists. If it had matter it would not be matterless, now, would it? Matter expands into empty space until intertia from Big Bang is overcome by gravity. Then the entirety of matter starts condensing, once again becoming a singular collection of matter, primed to explode. Expand, contract, ad infinitum. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
I don't see why he'd be required or compelled to do so. Where does the Bible say the BB & evolution did not occur? If the Bible is silent on those matters, then it's not contradicting those theories. I could accept the Genesis 1 story of creation contradicts evolution (though it does not say evolution could not commence after creation is done) but Genesis seems to be generally in line with the BB theory. Isn't there a verse that says something like "It's the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of man to seek out a matter?" Seems that is an endorsement of science. Looked it up: Proverbs 25:2. I did a pretty good job of recalling it, I'd say.
In reality a word is an expression of an idea. The word "bang" conveys the idea of a sudden burst. How do YOU know the idea God used wasn't something similar? As I said earlier, it's all a matter of the fact that God DID NOT write ANYTHING, the bible is merely the musings of ancient people who tried to explain all that exists. They did get some things right though, perhaps from some ancient spiritual knowledge that exists beyond that which is explainable. Who or what created the matter in the first place? Who or what created the empty space?
Possible, but where did that mass come from? How was it created? Funny how we both came up with the same question looking at it from two different angles.. :) From the Bible... "Said" means speaking, at least to me.
You said it's all explained in the bible. Uh huh. Relying on English words to reflect spiritual Hebrew thought isn't a precise science, especially when not only the words are often mistranslated, but the origin of the words is the hand of a man who wrote them from limited knowledge of much of anything.
Or proving that what the Bible says is not true? It's actually improper scientific method to start with the assumption that something is true, then proceed to search for evidence supporting that conclusion. Do that and I promise you you will succeed. "Seek and ye shall find" as the Bible quotes Jesus as saying and it is true, particularly when applied to human psychology. As I see it, if the Bible really IS the Word of God, then it will pass any and all tests put to it. We should, therefore, be completely fearless putting it through completely unbiased testing. We do NOT need to start with any foregone conclusion that it is completely perfect as a divine work and then seek to prove it. Does the Bible need a crutch? A head start? A cheat sheet? I say no. Give the Bible complete and unbiased tests. Fair tests, but unbiased tests.
That's a cool verse! You should see what I'm wrestling with these past many years. Simply said, God wants us searching, knocking, seeking, waiting... Keeps us involved with Him...but not always fun.
As I see it, if the Bible really IS the Word of God, then it will pass any and all tests put to it. I am prepared to throw the Bible out in the yard if it is not true. I do not want to believe a lie...I want the truth.
I can do Hebrew... Plus, I have God's Spirit to help me understand. It is often a painful process.
I'm pretty sure if you lived a million years you'd see that they do in fact change over time. In fact, if you look at skeletons of modern birds and compared them to skeletons of dinosaurs, they are quite similar. Which would mean modern birds are most likely descended from dinosaurs. Then you should know that what I've said concerning the mistranslation of Genesis is an absolute fact, Do you also know Gematria? I could make the same claim. That is why an infinite number of cycles is crucial to that theory. If I claimed, like, nine, the obvious next question would be "what happened before that, where did matter come from?" to which I am at a complete loss to give an intelligent answer. “I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestThe BB denies that God has communicated to us, that He has told us clearly how He created the universe.
#27. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#8)
The Big Bang Theory is the rejection of God.
Even more so for the Theory of Evolution.
#28. To: FormerLurker (#24)
HOW that light was created is still a mystery and up to debate.
#29. To: watchman (#21)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination 
#30. To: Pinguinite (#26)
Simply speaking it into existence is, at best, a very obtuse "method".
Certainly it doesn't work for the rest of us.
#31. To: watchman (#28)
It's not a mystery to me.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#32. To: watchman (#25)
www.biblegateway.com/pass...h=Genesis%201& version=KJV
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#33. To: watchman (#9)
It is the idea that the universe began as just a single point, then expanded and stretched to grow as large as it is right now—and it is still stretching!
#34. To: watchman (#10)
I liken the big bang theory and the theory of evolution to someone looking at a Michelangelo sculpture and saying, "Wow, a chunk of marble exploded and created a statue"
#35. To: Pinguinite (#26)
Simply speaking it into existence is, at best, a very obtuse "method".
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#36. To: FormerLurker (#29)
in THEIR own likeness
in the likeness of God.
#37. To: Pinguinite (#34)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#38. To: Pinguinite (#34)
You have no room to accept the possibility that there could have been divine power and design behind either the BB or Evolution?
#39. To: watchman (#36)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#40. To: FormerLurker (#37)
Some can't think beyond what they are told.
#41. To: watchman (#30)
Why? It is perfectly in keeping with God's abilities.
#42. To: FormerLurker (#39)
His Son (actually our Universe)
#43. To: watchman (#38)
God would have told us if that were the case.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#44. To: Pinguinite (#41)
And apparently you reject the possibility that the method God used included a Big Bang.
#45. To: watchman (#42)
Show me the verse that says that.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#46. To: watchman (#44)
He started with a word.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#47. To: watchman (#44)
He started with a word.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#48. To: FormerLurker (#43)
Does God explain nuclear physics, chemistry, or math anywhere in the bible?
#49. To: FormerLurker (#45)
Show me the verse that says that.
#50. To: Pinguinite, watchman (#6)
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I don't think that's the theory at all as it implies a super compressed mass pre-existed the BB.
#51. To: watchman (#38)
God would have told us if that were the case.
God cannot lie. It is impossible for Him to lie.
#52. To: watchman (#44)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#53. To: Dakmar (#50)
Matter expands into empty space
#54. To: Dakmar (#50)
Expand, contract, ad infinitum.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#55. To: watchman (#53)
Who or what created the matter in the first place?
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#56. To: FormerLurker (#52)
How do YOU know the idea God used wasn't something similar?
And God said,
#57. To: watchman (#49)
You first :)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#58. To: watchman (#56)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#59. To: watchman (#40)
God says, "Prove all things"...which includes proving what the Bible says.
#60. To: Pinguinite (#51)
"It's the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the glory of man to seek out a matter?"
#61. To: Pinguinite (#59)
Or proving that what the Bible says is not true?
#62. To: FormerLurker (#58)
Uh huh. Relying on English words to reflect spiritual Hebrew
#63. To: watchman (#48)
I study cows...I learned that they did not evolve :)
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#64. To: watchman (#62)
I can do Hebrew...
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#65. To: watchman (#62)
Plus, I have God's Spirit to help me understand.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
#66. To: FormerLurker (#54)
(Edited)
Possible, but where did that mass come from? How was it created?
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