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Title: Tucker Carlson: Guest says Big Bang is Nonsense
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FpcXw3Td4Ws
Published: Jan 27, 2025
Author: Horse
Post Date: 2025-01-27 04:01:25 by Horse
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Views: 19360
Comments: 316



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#1. To: Horse (#0) (Edited)

Guest says Big Bang is Nonsense

The Big Bang Theory is the rejection of God.

1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

--Psalm 14:1-3

So Tucker's guest is correct...the Big Bang Theory is nonsense...foolishness.

Even more so for the Theory of Evolution.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-27   10:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: watchman (#1)

The Big Bang Theory is the rejection of God.

Why?

The Big Bang theory basically embodies the very words of Genesis: "Let there be light". Does in not?

Why would you denigrate any scientific explanation for whatever method by which our universe was created? Is it a foregone conclusion that the creation of the universe was done with some form of divine magic that can never be understood in any way?

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   10:48:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#4)

The Big Bang theory basically embodies the very words of Genesis: "Let there be light". Does in not?

Actually, the big bang theory does not embody the words "Let there be light"

The big bang theory begins with matter already in existence, super compressed by gravity, which then explodes.

In the Genesis account God speaks the universe into existence...ex nihilo...out of nothing.

A personal, knowable God vs. "some form of divine magic"

This is the debate.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   12:13:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: watchman (#5)

The big bang theory begins with matter already in existence, super compressed by gravity, which then explodes.

Not necessarily. And in fact, I don't think that's the theory at all as it implies a super compressed mass pre-existed the BB. Given the current belief that space and time are related, I understand the BB theory to mark the creation of both.

It is reasonable to believe the universe was created by some means, and it could have been created by some event that happened in an alternate dimension, something outside of this universe. We could call that event an act of God, which is fine, so it doesn't mean the BB theory is rejecting God.

But in any event, & more to the point, we can agree we DO exist and the universe we are in DOES exist. If the BB theory is eventually rejected by scientific community and an alternate theory put int its place, would you necessarily reject that theory as well, just because it is a product of man?

Also, why does being wrong in scientific understanding of a matter equate to rejecting God? We are all wrong about various things in life.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   13:30:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Pinguinite, watchman (#6) (Edited)

I don't think that's the theory at all as it implies a super compressed mass pre-existed the BB.

I am entertaining the theory that there have been an infinite number of Big Bangs, where all matter clumps up due to gravity over time (think black holes, etc) until it reaches critical mass, much like atomic bomb.

Then the Big Bang.

Matter is hurled into matterless dimension aka empty space, which must exist simply because it exists. If it had matter it would not be matterless, now, would it?

Matter expands into empty space until intertia from Big Bang is overcome by gravity.

Then the entirety of matter starts condensing, once again becoming a singular collection of matter, primed to explode.

Expand, contract, ad infinitum.

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   17:54:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Dakmar (#50)

Matter expands into empty space

Who or what created the matter in the first place?

Who or what created the empty space?

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   17:56:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: watchman (#53)

Who or what created the matter in the first place?

Who or what created the empty space?

Why would either need to be created if they have always existed?

Who or what created God?

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:34:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Dakmar (#76) (Edited)

Who or what created God?

God self-exists...

Why would either need to be created if they have always existed?

You are ascribing God-like attributes to matter and space.

The pagans do that and worship such things.

I believe only God has "always existed"...and created both matter and space when He saw fit.

Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Ps.90:2

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   18:45:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#82. To: watchman (#80)

God self-exists...

So does the universe. The universe self attests to me every moment that it exists.

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28 18:53:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: watchman (#80)

You are ascribing God-like attributes to matter and space.

The pagans do that and worship such things.

I'll take that as a compliment, for now :)

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28 18:55:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: watchman (#80)

I believe only God has "always existed"...and created both matter and space when He saw fit.

What if God IS all that exists, has ever existed, and will ever exist?

How would you know if that wasn't true?

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28 19:01:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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