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#67. To: Dakmar (#50)

I am entertaining the theory that there have been an infinite number of Big Bangs, where all matter clumps up due to gravity over time (think black holes, etc) until it reaches critical mass, much like atomic bomb.

I had been perplexed about where the energy comes from in a supernova explosion. Stars fuse from hydrogen to helium to iron. And apparently putting too much iron in one spot causes the greatest explosion in the universe (after the BB). Why? Still not completely clear on the physics but it seems an understandable explanation is there.

So a giga supernova is what you suggest. Maybe, but it would need to bypass the supernova explosive stage somehow.

But yes, if a "critical mass" is part of the equation then it suggests that not all mass in the universe need be involved. If that's the case, I expect conventional science to find matter that pre-existed the perceived date of the BB. That would be an endorsement of the long discarded "Steady State" theory.

Alternate theory says there may be many more BB events that occurred throughout the mega-cosmos. E.g. perhaps one occurred 100 billion light years away. We'd have no means of detecting it as light from it wouldn't be anywhere near our own BB bubble. Could be thousands or trillions of others out there.

And God could be behind each and every one of them.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   18:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Dakmar (#66)

I am at a complete loss to give an intelligent answer.

And that is where we all are. The BB theory doesn't explain that either.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Pinguinite (#67)

So a giga supernova is what you suggest. Maybe, but it would need to bypass the supernova explosive stage somehow.

I've not kept up on my Science Digest subscription, but don't supernovas collapse into some sort of density pit?

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: watchman (#60)

That's a cool verse!

To me, it's an endorsement of the sciences. So to conclude that believing the BB theory is rejecting God... doesn't work. Not for me. It is our destiny to ask questions and seek answers. That's what science... REAL science, does.

And I see both BB and evolution falling into that category. It is legitimate research. Not liking the answers is fine, but that's NOT science. The truth doesn't need any help to stand up.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   18:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Pinguinite, Dakmar (#67) (Edited)

We also need to ask the question, what EXACTLY is mass and energy?

E=mc2 they say.

Which means the amount of energy available (in Joules) of mass is equal to the constant of the speed of light squared times the amount of mass (in kilograms).

But WHAT exactly are they?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#68)

And that is where we all are. The BB theory doesn't explain that either.

BB explains why galaxies are hurtling away from us and spinning!

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Dakmar (#72)

Perhaps. But it still comes down to where did all that mass and energy come from, and what exactly IS mass and energy?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: FormerLurker (#71)

We also need to ask the question, what EXACTLY is mass and energy?

Mass is matter

Energy is either velocity or electric charge

Until we get to the complex stuff. :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FormerLurker (#73)

But it still comes down to where did all that mass and energy come from

Cargo planes, ca 1943

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: watchman (#53)

Who or what created the matter in the first place?

Who or what created the empty space?

Why would either need to be created if they have always existed?

Who or what created God?

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Dakmar (#74)

Ok, what is matter?

We can break down matter to atoms and subatomic particles.

But what ARE they really?...

We know we can describe what energy does, but what IS it exactly?

BTW, charge isn't energy, it's potential energy.

Charge produces an electrostatic field. Energy can be seen as light, electromagnetic radiation, heat, and force that causes a mass to accelerate.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Dakmar (#76)

Who or what created God?

That is the age old question.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:36:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Dakmar (#75)

Cargo planes, ca 1943

LOL!!


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Dakmar (#76) (Edited)

Who or what created God?

God self-exists...

Why would either need to be created if they have always existed?

You are ascribing God-like attributes to matter and space.

The pagans do that and worship such things.

I believe only God has "always existed"...and created both matter and space when He saw fit.

Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Ps.90:2

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   18:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: FormerLurker (#77)

We can break down matter to atoms and subatomic particles.

Where did those come from? Did some diety create them?

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: watchman (#80)

God self-exists...

So does the universe. The universe self attests to me every moment that it exists.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: watchman (#80)

You are ascribing God-like attributes to matter and space.

The pagans do that and worship such things.

I'll take that as a compliment, for now :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   18:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Dakmar (#81)

Where did those come from? Did some diety create them?

Perhaps all that exists IS God.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   18:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: watchman (#61)

I am prepared to throw the Bible out in the yard if it is not true.

I do not want to believe a lie...I want the truth.

In that we are the same.

But I do see flaws in the Bible. I do think it's generally a good book, at least the New Testament. The OT, however, to me has flaws that give it away as a product of man. I further see many elements that are characteristic of being a work of an ancient people that bear many of the same qualities of people in our current age. A people that seek relevance. They write about being blessed by the divine when things are well, and when things are not well, it's because they displeased God. Because having the power to displease a supreme creator is also a way of expressing the importance of oneself. I see writings that are designed to frighten and control the population just as our current gov does today with things like covid.

Dr. Fauci would have been a High Priest back then, going into the temple and coming out telling everyone what God's will was. People would go and listen to what's on the 3000 BC version of the internet, but unlike today, they still believed everything they were told. Well, people today still do that, don't they?

Controlling the masses through fear was as useful then as it is today. Fear of God's wrath or of dropping dead from a virus. Obey God (us) and you will be blessed. Mass media keeping people from rioting and revolting. All useful stuff. Nothing new under the sun.

That is what I see. And today people ascribe divine authority behind ancient writings really only because they are ancient. True, the Israelites did a meticulous job of replicating their writings, unlike the Greeks which had altered versions of their god's endeavors just as Marvel comics does today with gods like the Hulk and Spiderman. And for the same reason. Entertaining the masses. But Israelites considered their writings to be divine which is the reason they took so much care in replicating their scrolls. But that doesn't mean they were divine. And as I said, I see flaws in them that to me betray it's authenticity as God's perfect message.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   18:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: watchman (#80)

I believe only God has "always existed"...and created both matter and space when He saw fit.

What if God IS all that exists, has ever existed, and will ever exist?

How would you know if that wasn't true?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   19:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: FormerLurker (#84)

Perhaps all that exists IS God.

Can I call my savior Olive?

That might upset a lot of people, so it starts tomorrow.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   19:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Pinguinite (#85)

And as I said, I see flaws in them that to me betray it's authenticity as God's perfect message.

Especially in passages that order the Jews to "smite" their enemies, men, women, children, and livestock.

Seems more of a order from men than an order from any sort of supreme being.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2025-01-28   19:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Pinguinite (#85)

Controlling the masses through fear was as useful then as it is today. Fear of God's wrath or of dropping dead from a virus. Obey God (us) and you will be blessed. Mass media keeping people from rioting and revolting. All useful stuff. Nothing new under the sun.

Amen. DoublePlusGood on your humorous writing style.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   19:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: FormerLurker (#84)

Perhaps all that exists IS God.

That's called pan theology.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   19:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: FormerLurker (#86)

What if God IS all that exists, has ever existed, and will ever exist?

How would you know if that wasn't true?

We exist, don't we?

And we are certainly not God.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   19:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: watchman (#90)

That's called pan theology.

But if God created Everything, wouldn't Everything equal God?

Or are there Creator bonus points? :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   19:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Dakmar (#92)

But if God created Everything, wouldn't Everything equal God?

Or are there Creator bonus points? :)

No.

It means that God is the Creator, and "everything" else is His creation.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   19:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Pinguinite (#85)

But I do see flaws in the Bible.

I see problem passages in the Bible, but not flaws/error.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   19:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: watchman (#93) (Edited)

It means that God is the Creator, and "everything" else is His creation.

But how could God exist if nothing existed?

[edit] I know, God just exists... :)

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   19:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Dakmar (#95)

But how could God exist if nothing existed?

As I've mentioned God self-exists.

He is eternal...without beginning or end.

If this were not true He wouldn't be God.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   19:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Dakmar (#95)

[edit] I know, God just exists... :)

Now you're gettin' it!

You'll be a theologian in no time.

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   19:38:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: watchman (#97)

That or institutionalized.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   19:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: watchman (#96)

He is eternal...without beginning or end.

We reach!

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2025-01-28   19:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Dakmar (#98) (Edited)

Some of God's attributes...

Omniscience: God's ability to know everything from beginning to end in one thought

Omnipresence: God's presence everywhere at all times, the totality of His being fills the universe

Merciful: God's quality of showing mercy

Loving: God's quality of love that is selfless, unconditional, and sacrificial

Sovereign: God's position of power and authority over all things things

Immutable: God's quality of being unchanging in his character, will, and promises

Self-sufficient: God's quality of possessing infinite riches of being, wisdom, goodness, and power, complete in every way

Holy: God's quality of being perfectly holy

Just: God's quality of being perfectly just

Good: God's quality of being perfectly good

Gracious: God's quality of being perfectly gracious

Faithful: God's quality of being perfectly faithful

Truthful: God's quality of being perfectly truthful

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   19:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Dakmar (#99)

I am not Herbert

Been a long ride, brutha.

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone.
TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy…
but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”

Esso  posted on  2025-01-28   20:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: watchman (#28)

evolution has a major problem addressing flowering plants and pollinators, they both have to exist at the same point in time.

ghostrider  posted on  2025-01-28   20:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: ghostrider (#102)

For good reason...

Skepticism About Darwinian Evolution Grows as Over 1000 Scientists From Around the World Declare Their Doubts About Darwinism

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/skepticism-about-darwinian- evolution-grows-as-over-1000-scientists-from-around-the-world-declare- their-doubts-about-darwinism-300790168.html

WASHINGTON, Feb. 5, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- Over 1000 doctoral scientists from around the world have signed a statement publicly expressing their skepticism about the contemporary theory of Darwinian evolution, according to Discovery Institute. The statement, located online at www.dissentfromdarwin.org, reads: "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."

"Because no scientist can show how Darwin's mechanism can produce the complexity of life, every scientist should be skeptical," said biologist Douglas Axe, director of the Biologic Institute. "The fact that most won't admit to this exposes the unhealthy effect of peer pressure on scientific discourse."

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   21:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Dakmar (#69)

I've not kept up on my Science Digest subscription, but don't supernovas collapse into some sort of density pit?

My understanding is that basic stars are made of hydrogen which fuse into helium. After the hydrogen runs out, the helium then fuses into iron and once there's too much iron then it explodes in a supernova. In the explosion all the other elements are made instantly. All the material is blasted out into the surrounding space where it can form into rocks and such and planets.

Maybe there's something special about iron.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   21:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Dakmar (#76)

Who or what created God?

We do not know. And it's okay not to know. What we do know is that we are here and that we were created in some way. So just because we don't understand the creation of all things including God doesn't mean God doesn't exist.

Pinguinite  posted on  2025-01-28   22:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

Ray Comfort

I only know his name.

I did hear that he is expecting a revival because of the election.

That did it for me.

As far as I'm concerned the churches are completely fallen away and spued out...as delusional as the world...believing every lie they hear. And that would include Ray Comfort.

Chances of revival are slim to none...

watchman  posted on  2025-01-28   22:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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