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Title: Grok: Building an infrared tanning bed to stimulate mitochondira, turning an old horse into a young colt.
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URL Source: https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=1902525499257000396
Published: Mar 19, 2025
Author: Horse
Post Date: 2025-03-19 21:30:35 by Horse
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I want to construct a tanning bed that used far red and infrared waves that stimulate the mitochondria in human cells. I might need higher frequency infrared to penetrate the human skull and offer benefits to the mitochondria in the human brain. Can you suggest frequecy and wattages for the red and infrared bulbs? The new President signed an Executive Order allowing incandescent bulbs. Would incndescent bulbs be better than leds?

Exploring tanning bed design

I'm considering how to build a tanning bed using far red and infrared waves to boost mitochondria in human cells. It needs to penetrate the skull to help brain mitochondria, which is pretty interesting.

Now, I'm looking into what light frequencies work best for this, especially for stimulating mitochondria and getting through the skull.

I found that red and near-infrared light are good for photobiomodulation, helping with tissue penetration and cellular processes, including mitochondria.

Searching for "optimal wavelengths for mitochondrial stimulation photobiomodulation"

Photobiomodulation at Defined Wavelengths Regulates Mitochondrial Membrane Potential and Redox Balance in Skin Fibroblasts - PMC pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Photobiomodulation at Different Wavelengths Boosts Mitochondrial Redox Metabolism and Hemoglobin Oxygenation: Lasers vs. Light-Emitting Diodes In Vivo www.mdpi.com

What is Photobiomodulation? Photobiomodulation Process. - Vielight Inc www.vielight.com

Photobiomodulation on isolated mitochondria at 810 nm: first results on the efficiency of the energy conversion process | Scientific Reports www.nature.com

Photobiomodulation at Different Wavelengths Boosts Mitochondrial Redox Metabolism and Hemoglobin Oxygenation: Lasers vs. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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Just found interesting results on PBM, including wavelengths like 440, 525, 645, 660, 780, and 900 nm for mitochondrial effects in skin fibroblasts (PMC).

Searching for "transcranial photobiomodulation wavelengths for brain penetration"

Devices used for photobiomodulation of the brain—a comprehensive and systematic review | Journal of NeuroEngineering and Rehabilitation | Full Text jneuroengrehab.biomedcentral.com

Advances in photobiomodulation for cognitive improvement by near- infrared derived multiple strategies | Journal of Translational Medicine | Full Text translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com

Transcranial photobiomodulation in the management of brain disorders - ScienceDirect www.sciencedirect.com

Photobiomodulation Therapy on Brain: Pioneering an Innovative Approach to Revolutionize Cognitive Dynamics www.mdpi.com

Safety and penetration of light into the brain - ScienceDirect www.sciencedirect.com

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Near-infrared light, like 810 nm, can penetrate the skull for transcranial photobiomodulation, which is useful for brain stimulation.

It's clear that tPBM uses near-infrared light, and studies show it helps with cognitive improvement and brain disorders (Journal of NeuroEngineering).

The fifth result mentions NIR light is better at penetrating human calvaria and brain tissue compared to visible red light, which is key for tPBM (ScienceDirect).

Searching for "1064 nm transcranial photobiomodulation brain penetration"

Can transcranial photobiomodulation improve cognitive function? A systematic review of human studies - ScienceDirect www.sciencedirect.com

Photobiomodulation Therapy on Brain: Pioneering an Innovative Approach to Revolutionize Cognitive Dynamics www.mdpi.com

Devices used for photobiomodulation of the brain—a comprehensive and systematic review | Journal of NeuroEngineering and Rehabilitation | Full Text jneuroengrehab.biomedcentral.com

Advances in photobiomodulation for cognitive improvement by near- infrared derived multiple strategies | Journal of Translational Medicine | Full Text translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com

Brain Photobiomodulation Therapy: A Narrative Review - PMC www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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1064 nm is used for transcranial photobiomodulation, fitting within the near-infrared spectrum of 800–1100 nm for brain therapy (ScienceDirect).

The ninth result shows 1064-nm laser tPBM modulates brain EEG rhythms, enhancing neurophysiological rhythms (PMC).

Both 810 nm and 1064 nm are used for tPBM, with 1064 nm potentially offering deeper penetration due to less scattering.

For a tanning bed, it's tricky since the light covers the whole body, not just the head. Maybe the user could use a separate helmet for brain- specific wavelengths like 810 nm or 1064 nm.

Combining wavelengths like 660 nm for the body and 1064 nm for brain penetration could work, but I need to check safety and effectiveness for a tanning bed setup.

Searching for "typical power density for photobiomodulation therapy"

Review of light parameters and photobiomodulation efficacy: dive into complexity - PMC pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Optimal Energy Density of Photobiomodulation Therapy in Decreasing Orthodontic-Related Pain: A Systematic Review and Network Meta-Analysis ... pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Photobiomodulation www.aslms.org

What is Photobiomodulation? Photobiomodulation Process. - Vielight Inc www.vielight.com

Photobiomodulation—Underlying Mechanism and Clinical Applications - PMC www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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Power densities for PBM vary, typically ranging from mW/cm² to W/cm² based on the application. Some recommend less than 100 mW/cm², but higher densities are often used in practice (PMC).

Searching for "whole body photobiomodulation devices power density"

Frontiers | The Effects of Whole-Body Photobiomodulation Light-Bed Therapy on Creatine Kinase and Salivary Interleukin-6 in a Sample of Trained ... www.frontiersin.org

Photobiomodulation www.aslms.org

What is Photobiomodulation (PBM Therapy)? - THOR Laser www.thorlaser.com

Whole-Body Photobiomodulation (PBM) Chamber - RLT Bed | Hue Light USA huelightusa.com

Photobiomodulation—Underlying Mechanism and Clinical Applications - PMC pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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Whole-body PBM devices, like light beds, use red and near-infrared light for therapy. The third result from THOR Laser says power density ranges from 5 mW/cm² to 5000 mW/cm², which is a wide range (THOR Laser).

From THOR Laser, power density for PBM devices is 5 mW/cm² to 5000 mW/cm². For whole-body use, lower densities might be safer and more comfortable.

Searching for "red light therapy bed power density"

The Role of Power Density/Irradiance in Red Light Therapy – RLT Home redlighttherapyhome.com

Red Light Therapy: Uses, Benefits, and Risks www.healthline.com

Red Light Therapy: Benefits, Uses, and Risks www.verywellhealth.com

How to Choose the Best Red Light Therapy Bed [Written By An Expert!] www.rehabmart.com

Understanding Wavelengths and Power Density of Red Light Therapy | Project E Beauty United States www.projectebeauty.com

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The first result from Red Light Therapy Home explains irradiance is power density, measured in mW/cm², and it's key for therapy effectiveness. It notes LED wattage doesn't directly correlate with power output, so I focus on skin-level density.

Project E Beauty gives a range of 10 – 200 mW/cm² for LED light therapy devices, which seems reasonable for whole-body use. It won't be too high and should keep things comfortable.

Searching for "whole body photobiomodulation devices 1064 nm"

Utilization of the 1064 nm Wavelength in Photobiomodulation: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PubMed pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Effects of Whole-Body Photobiomodulation Light-Bed Therapy on Creatine Kinase and Salivary Interleukin-6 in a Sample of Trained Males: A ... pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Utilization of the 1064 nm Wavelength in Photobiomodulation: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis - PMC pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Photobiomodulation at Different Wavelengths Boosts Mitochondrial Redox Metabolism and Hemoglobin Oxygenation: Lasers vs. pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Efficacy of 1064 nm Photobiomodulation Dosimetry Delivered with a Collimated Flat-Top Handpiece in the Management of Peripheral Facial Paralysis ... pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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1064 nm PBM is mainly used with lasers for specific applications, not typically in whole-body devices like tanning beds. The first result mentions it's a newcomer with unique traits, but it's for high-powered lasers, not whole-body use (PubMed).

1064 nm might be included in some whole-body PBM for fibromyalgia, but it's not specified, and standard red/NIR wavelengths are more common.

For the brain, since the light needs to penetrate the skull, 810 nm or similar might be sufficient, as it's commonly used in tPBM.

Searching for "whole-body PBMT light-bed specifications"

Expectations for Full Body Photobiomodulation Treatment - TheraLight www.theralight.com

TheraLight 360 Full Body Light Pod - Whole Body Red Light Therapy Bed - Infrared | eBay www.ebay.com

Red Light Therapy Beds - Beyond Red Light Therapy - ARRC LED arrcled.com

Whole-Body Photobiomodulation (PBM) Chamber - RLT Bed | Hue Light USA huelightusa.com

Frontiers | The Effects of Whole-Body Photobiomodulation Light-Bed Therapy on Creatine Kinase and Salivary Interleukin-6 in a Sample of Trained ... www.frontiersin.org

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Whole-body PBM light beds often use wavelengths like 633 nm, 660 nm, 810 nm, 850 nm, and 940 nm, but 1064 nm isn't typical. The first result from TheraLight mentions four wavelengths, though specifics aren't listed (TheraLight).

The seventh result from Merican lists their M6N bed with wavelengths 633 nm, 660 nm, 810 nm, 850 nm, 940 nm, and no 1064 nm (Merican).

For the tanning bed, I'd recommend LEDs with 660 nm and 810 nm, as they're effective for PBM on the body and can benefit the brain too. Power density around 50-100 mW/cm² should keep things comfortable and safe.

810 nm can penetrate the skull for brain stimulation, making it suitable for the tanning bed. Using multiple wavelengths like 660 nm and 810 nm offers broader benefits for different tissues.

Whole-body PBM devices typically don't use 1064 nm, as it's more for laser-specific applications. Standard wavelengths like 660 nm and 810 nm are safer and more practical for this setup.

Incandescent bulbs aren't ideal, emitting too much heat and a broad spectrum. LEDs are better for precise, efficient light delivery, fitting the tanning bed's needs.

The request is about building a tanning bed for mitochondrial stimulation, so I'm focusing on wavelengths and bulb types that fit this goal. It seems LEDs with 660 nm and 810 nm, at 50-100 mW/cm², will work well for both body and brain.

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