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Title: Smithsonian removes electric-car exhibit
Source: SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER/AP
URL Source: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/natio ... 155AP_Electric_Car_Booted.html
Published: Jun 19, 2006
Author: n/a
Post Date: 2006-06-21 20:25:57 by Esso
Keywords: GM EV1, electric-car
Views: 192
Comments: 18

WASHINGTON -- Just weeks before the release of a movie about the death of the electric car from the 1990s, the Smithsonian Institution has removed its EV1 electric sedan from display.

The National Museum of American History removed the rare exhibit yesterday, just as interest in electric and hybrid vehicles is on the rise.

The upcoming film "Who Killed the Electric Car?" questions why General Motors created the battery-powered vehicles and then crushed the program a few years later. The film opens June 30th.

GM happens to be one of the Smithsonian's biggest contributors. But museum and GM officials say that had nothing to do with the removal of the EV1 from display.

A museum spokeswoman says the museum simply needed the space to display another vehicle, a high-tech SUV.

The Smithsonian has no plans to bring the electric car back on view. It will remain in a Suitland storage facility.


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#7. To: Esso (#0)

GM happens to be one of the Smithsonian's biggest contributors. But museum and GM officials say that had nothing to do with the removal of the EV1 from display.

A museum spokeswoman says the museum simply needed the space to display another vehicle, a high-tech SUV.

While I was born at night, it wasn't LAST night.

The guy who made the film was on NOW last weekend. This film is pretty devastating. GM and the others didn't just take back all the electric cars (they were all leased, with no option to buy, although many tried), just to be sure, they had them all crushed. And just to be sure, they literally shredded the remains.

I got a ride in one of them one time. Amazing vehicles, fast as hell, and absolutely silent.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-06-22   22:12:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mekons4 (#7)

What's the hubbub over electric cars? They just move the polution from one place to another. Not only that, when you consider the line losses through sending that power from the generating station to your battery charger, they're not efficient either.

Rube Goldberg  posted on  2006-06-22   22:21:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rube Goldberg (#8)

They just move the polution from one place to another.

The pollution created by powerplants would be only 2% of what is produced by internal combustion engines in vehicles. Economy of scale comes into play.

Not only that, when you consider the line losses through sending that power from the generating station to your battery charger, they're not efficient either.

The efficiency of the electrical grid is on the order of 95%, inefficiency is induced on the users end, the most inefficient use being incandescent light bulbs, which are only about 10% efficient, 90% of the energy is dissipated as heat.

At best, ICEs are only about 15% efficient, and develop their torque in a very narrow range, where electric motor efficiency is close to 100%, while delivering full torque over its entire RPM range.

On a cost basis, the EV1 delivered the equivalent of about 200 MPG with virtually no maintenance over the life of the vehicle.

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#13. To: Esso (#12)

At best, ICEs are only about 15% efficient, and develop their torque in a very narrow range, where electric motor efficiency is close to 100%, while delivering full torque over its entire RPM range.

If you want to talk efficiency we could use the reciprocating steam engine-- maximum torque at zero RPM. Lets see you electric motor do that. I think you'll find that the average gas engine today is about 30% efficient but I think that's a false analogy. In an electric car, the motor would be more akin to the gear train as the battery is where the power comes from.

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