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Title: White Supremacists Ratchet Up Anti-Hispanic Action As U.S. Immigration Debate Rages
Source: www.adl.org
URL Source: http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Extremism_72/4822_72.htm
Published: Jun 22, 2006
Author: staff
Post Date: 2006-06-22 12:38:17 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 4359
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New York, NY, May 24, 2006 … As the national debate over immigration continues to hold the national spotlight, neo-Nazis and white supremacists have ratcheted up their anti-Hispanic action, using everything from Internet video games to street demonstrations and other confrontational tactics in an effort to exploit the debate as a means to spread hate. Their goal is to draw new attention to their hateful notions about minorities and hopes for making America a nation for "Whites only."

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which monitors and reports on the activities of far-right extremists, has updated its online report, "Extremists Declare 'Open Season' on Immigrants" with new information showing that extremists continue to focus their energies on Hispanic hate-mongering through racist rhetoric, crude stereotypes, and threats of using violence to intimidate illegal immigrants.

"As we have gotten deeper into the discussion on immigration, the white supremacist movement has reinvigorated itself and closed ranks around the cause of fighting immigration and turning America into a nation for 'Whites only'", said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "The immigration debate has provided the perfect storm for America's white supremacist fringe to recruit, organize and sow the seeds of racial discord and hate."

On the Internet, right-wing extremists have championed video games such as "Border Patrol," where the aim is to shoot to kill Mexicans as they attempt to cross the border, and used their Web sites to spread hateful anti-Hispanic messages. In the real world, white supremacist leaders have organized protests and encouraged their followers to act violently against immigrants or anyone of Hispanic origin.

Anti-Hispanic Violence

ADL's report cites two recent incidents as the latest in a multi-year trend of increasing violence targeting Hispanics:

•A teenager was arrested in East Hampton, Long Island, on April 29 after he allegedly threatened a Hispanic teenager with a machete and chased a second teenager with a chain saw while shouting racial epithets. Described by classmates as a skinhead, the alleged perpetrator had posted to the Internet photographs of himself posing as a Nazi and adorning a shed with swastikas.

•David Henry Tuck, 18, and Keith Robert Turner, 17, were arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault in the brutal April 22 attack of a teenage Hispanic high school student in Houston. The victim was beaten and sodomized with a plastic pipe from a patio umbrella, then kicked in the head with steel-toed boots.

White Supremacist Protests

In recent weeks, white supremacists have organized protests, rallies and other events across the country:

•In Seattle, Washington, and Las Vegas, Nevada, members of the neo-Nazi National Vanguard held anti-immigration protests on May 20. On its Web site, the National Vanguard declared that day to be a "day of protest against George W. Bush's plan to destroy America," calling the president's immigration proposals a "sellout of the nation."

•In Keene, New Hampshire, New England members of the Arkansas-based neo-Nazi group White Revolution held a self-described "anti-invasion" demonstration on May 7 to protest "the invasion of America by illegal non white hordes.'

•In Russellville, Alabama, members of the Alabama chapter of the Indiana-based National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan held an anti-immigration rally on May 6, yelling "Let's get rid of the Mexicans!" After the rally, the Klansmen burned a cross in a field outside of town.

•In Montgomery, Alabama, the neo-Confederate group League of the South and the Coalition against Illegal Immigration together organized an anti-immigration "Cinco de Mayo" demonstration on May 5. The event was promoted in the racist and anti-Semitic newspaper, "First Freedom."

•In Greenville, South Carolina, the racist Council of Conservative Citizens held an anti-immigration demonstration on April 29 in front of the offices of Republican Congressman Lindsey Graham, where they burned Mexican flags and displayed signs such as "More INS, Less IRS," "Vote for Pedro to Go Home," and "I Didn't Fight in Iraq for Illegal Aliens."

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#10. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

The Minutemen project held a demonstration in Los Angeles. When the illegal aliens saw the several black men demonstrating against amnesty, they responded the most vile racial insults imaginable against the black men.

Horse  posted on  2006-06-22   13:00:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Horse (#10)

"The Minutemen project held a demonstration in Los Angeles. When the illegal aliens saw the several black men demonstrating against amnesty, they responded the most vile racial insults imaginable against the black men."

It is quite true that there is a problem with bigotry and hatred in both groups of people. I was displaced by Mexicans from working in the woods in the 1980s and I have been aware of the problem longer then many people.

I have seen both assholes and amigos when I worked with the growing influx of cheaper wage worker on the hill. I went through my period of anger and had my epiphany early when I studied the issue and realized both they and people like me were being used by a common enemy.

Creating decades long hate between the peoples of Mexico and our country is no answer to this problem. Along with an aggressive enforcement of immigration laws must come human understanding and compassion, flexibility and dialog.

There is a way for Mexicans and us to win and those who started the problem to lose. We can find the path and make this happen if we use both our hearts and minds in concert as a compass to guide us.

We do not need to hate each other to deal with the problem. We need to understand and respect each other to work together to find solutions to it that allow both groups to win, and those playing Machiavellian games with us to lose.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   13:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

Are you in favor of open borders?

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-22   13:22:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mehitable (#17)

"Are you in favor of open borders?"

We need border control if that is what you mean. I want the borders open enough so we can share with each other, but we obviously need better enforcement of who stays and to define better the whys we decide who stays or goes.

I don't know what border enforcement dynamic will work mehitable. I do know that a border with an apartheid wall in the spirit of the evil edifice the Israelis so foolishly built is a monument to hatred and perpetuates the problems that it was meant to address.

If both the Mexican and American people work together to come to accord on the problem, I have faith that we will find they have been amicable to a solution that works for both our peoples all along.

It takes putting aside fear and hatred to do this. We have to be willing to acknowledge our mutual aspirations, hopes for the future of ourselves and our children and a willingness to help each other better ourselves to find common ground and to good neighbors and friend.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   13:30:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike, all (#20)

I want the borders open enough so we can share with each other

Mike, that's a total pile of crap. I don't want to share anything with the Mexicans and I seriously doubt they want to share anything with me. In fact, if you try to sneak into Mexico illegally, they shoot you - as they SHOULD. It's very difficult to immigrate into Mexico legally - they have all kinds of hoops to jump through and that is correct and right.

Again - there is NOTHING I want to share with the Mexicans. Yes, I know they're going through hard times since NAFTA came about. The answer is to repeal NAFTA. The answer is for them to take back Mexico from Vincente Fox and the other white crooks who are running it - George Bush's friends - and put their OWN people into power.

I know the corporatists are using the Mexicans, and I think the corporatists should be executed frankly, as traitors to this country. I am beyond fines and all this bullshit. I want action.

Sunday my boyfriend and me once again went to yet another state park in Massachusetts in a remote rural area hoping to find that unlike other state parks we've been to in the past couple of years, that it would not be overrun by Hispanics. Well we got there and sure enough about 80% of the crowd were Hispanics. And by GOd, they were totally obnoxious. They don't come in small groups - they come in the car loads. They don't respect the space of others at all. They were obnoxius towards us, and once again I had the sense of being a minority and under siege by a foreign people IN MY OWN COUNTRY.

I don't give a fuck about the Mexicans. I want them to go back home. I don't like them, I don't need them, I don't want them, and they have no purpose in being here. I know goddam well, they have the same opinion of us and they will not hesitate to drive us out if they get the opportunity. If you don't understand that you, have been brainwashed by this kumbayah shit or you're as thick as a plank.

Sorry, Mike, you seem like a nice guy, but you're totally wrong on this issue.

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-22   13:37:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mehitable (#24)

"Sunday my boyfriend and me once again..."

Oh my... I am taken aback. No offense, but I had thought you were male. :-O

Thanks for relating some of your experience. But I don't think it represents the full scope of things as I know certain crowd dynamic do differ substantially from what you experience on a one on one basis with people.

I'm sure if you got to know many in that park in smaller groups or as single individuals you would have felt less intimidated, they would be more respectful and you would find you had more in common with each other then you thought.

When I was on Guam as a serviceman, we were warned not to go to beaches that were predominantly Chimorro/Guamanian. The Japanese took over one fifth of the Island when they invaded expelling the owners. When we invaded and kicked the Japanese out, we established Guam as a U.S. territory and assumed control over every hectare of that land the Japanese took ownership of pissing off the people there royally.

They think of us as the invader there and many deeply resent our presence and role on that and other Mariana Islands. The oldest Christian Church in Asia is on Guam. It stands a ruin and in reconsecrated to protest how U.S. Forces tortured Chimorros who wanted to return to the style of governance they had before the Japanese invasion.

We imposed the government there, with ours as the template, and as they had been invaded since the Spanish first came there and took control killing every male Chimorro on all Islands (Chimorros are half Spanish), they have a deep and abiding loathing for invasion and occupation.

So you see I do understand where you are coming from far better then you think. And my views of the problem are deeply tempered my my deep understanding that we can ourselves be just as bad as any overwhelming influx of foreign nationals as we have proved this on Guam and elsewhere in the past.

I still say the problem is best solved with focus on the strengths of our better attributes then to be seduced by the angers and frustrations that bring out the worst in us or any other people.

Good post by the way, Thanks. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   14:03:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike, all (#28)

I'm sure if you got to know many in that park in smaller groups or as single individuals you would have felt less intimidated, they would be more respectful and you would find you had more in common with each other then you thought.

I totally disagree with that. I've grown up Hispanic peoples, but not in this volume of course, and I frankly dislike them. I find them rude and obnoxious and very controlling and domineering. I find, as individuals and groups, they DO indeed take over and want things their way, and they don't hesitate to try to bring that about. Moreover, what individuals may or may not be like is totally irrelevant in this argument - I am talking about the CULTURAL behavior of people in groups, because we ARE talking about large groups of people invading our country. Their cultural behavior and norms are FAR more important than personal or individual differences among them. Culturally, they are extremely aggressive. If we try this kumbayah shit on them, they won't behave as tolerant and easy going as we're supposed. They will take over. I am seeing that again and again, both as an individual (me) and in relations to large areas such as towns and cities. We know have entire towns and good parts of cities in Massachusetts - which has no natural border or is not near ANY Hispanic country at all - that are mainly Spanish speaking.

I RESENT THIS. I WANT THEM TO LEAVE. I DON'T LIKE THEM. I KNOW THEY WILL TRY TO CROWD ME OUT. You're a fool if you believe otherwise.

The Red Coats are comin', Mike, and they're not going to play tea party with us. They think we're a bunch of damn fools who can't or won't protect our own property, rights or country. And they are correct.

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-22   14:17:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: mehitable (#32)

"I RESENT THIS. I WANT THEM TO LEAVE. I DON'T LIKE THEM. I KNOW THEY WILL TRY TO CROWD ME OUT. You're a fool if you believe otherwise."

I hear your loathing and your fear, there is no need to yell to get it across, thanks. You are not a fool, and neither an I, we do disagree on aspects of this issue though.

"The Red Coats are coming', Mike, and they're not going to play tea party with us. They think we're a bunch of damn fools who can't or won't protect our own property, rights or country. And they are correct."

You are projecting these fears and loathing as you put words into their mouths. Again, thanks for your opinion, but I disagree, we have more in common then differences s human beings.

I also might mention that though I am in Oregon, I was born and raised in Connecticut. Clinton, Ct. exit 63 on I-95 between Old Saybrook and New Haven.

I know exactly what Red Coats are, and Mexicans are in no way shape and form like King George III's army. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   14:37:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

You don't seem to understand what an invasion IS, Mike, nor do you seem to understand that all the tolerance and willingness to accept diversity and all that crap is a total one way street. The Mexicans WOULD NOT do the same for you. They are not the same as us - culturally - and I will stick up for my own people. If I don't stick up for my own people, who the hell will? The Mexicans will do the normal and natural thing and stick up for themselves - I don't blame them for that. But if we don't do the same thing for ourselves, we will be committing societal suicide as Americans.

Do you like Mexico? Would you like to live there? I don't. And if enough Mexicans move here as squatters then de facto, they BRING Mexico WITH THEM, and that area BECOMES Mexico.

I'm speaking as someone who is observing this directly, not from some kind of theooretical platform on the moon. I'm the one trying to go to the goddam state beaches and parks that "I" pay for.

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-22   14:51:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mehitable (#42)

Are you familiar with the Pequot and what we did to them? I know what an invasion is. It is more then a demographic change, and I see no army nor organization to the influx like our systematic genocide of the Pequots that was so total only scattered survivors taken in by other tribes were left alive, and know that the colonial governments in new England even outlawed the utterance of the name of that tribe.

You speak of how bad Mexicans are, but they didn't invent Manifest Destiny or operate under the auspices of the Doctrine of Discovery that denied sovereignty or cultural protection to native peoples when we first came over to these continents.

They still have some bad Karma from Conquistador days, and we have the same from French and Indian War, Trail of Tears, and Western Expansion days to deal with.

Because of the big picture of our overall history as a people, we need to be careful that as we craft solutions to this problem we don't relive aspects of the problems inherent to our history as a people here in what was once called, "The New World."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   15:20:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Ferret Mike (#43)

There you go, beating up on the white people. This is not the problem of any race or group. It's a HUMAN PROBLEM. It's the way people behave in groups.

It's exceedingly ironic that you bring up the Pequod people because you obviously have not learned what the real lesson of that was. The real lesson was that if they had NOT BEEN NICE to the white invaders and chased them off or killed them (which is what I would have advised the Indians to do), they might have retained their land longer or got better terms later on. If anyone can tell us the downside of mass immigration by a foreign people, it would INDEED be the Indians.

As for the Mexicans, I don't think they're a "bad" people. I just don't like them personally. I probably wouldn't go to Mexico. But they're fine in their own space. We (the American people) just didn't invite them here and this is not a voluntary association. They are forcing themselves upon us, and being forced upon us by the corporatists.

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-22   15:51:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: mehitable (#46)

"They are forcing themselves upon us, and being forced upon us by the corporatists."

They are migrating because of corporatists taking advantage of circumstances to manipulate them to so so to find a better life. Ironically, what is happening with them is much like the factors that sparked much of the migration to the New World by Europeans in the 16th and 17th centuries to find a better life.

I blame the corporatists as being the parties committing the felony grade crimes of manipulating to enhance and grow this migration. What crimes those coming here are committing are far less serious then their's and have circumstances in mitigation and extenuation that make the amnesty bill a far better idea then you or others here are willing to admit.

The corporatists have no such factors. They are like any rich and powerful people; all they crave is more power and more capital.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   16:57:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike (#50)

They are migrating because of corporatists taking advantage of circumstances to manipulate them to so so to find a better life.

When in history have migrants ignored the laws of a sovereign nation?

Your wilful failure to identify these migrants as illegal immigrants is a transparent, leftist ploy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-22   18:41:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

"When in history have migrants ignored the laws of a sovereign nation?"

Ours and those of people from Spain, Portugal, and other nations got around it by using a papal document issued forty years before Columbus' voyage. In 1452, Pope Nicholas V issued to King Alfonso V of Portugal the bull Romanus Pontifex, declaring war against all non-Christians throughout the world, and specifically sanctioning and promoting the conquest, colonization, and exploitation of non- Christian nations and their territories.

In an 'Inter Cetera' document, Pope Alexander said that the "discovered" people be "subjugated and brought to the faith itself." Later when Portugal protested this concession to Spain, Pope Alexander stipulated in a subsequent bull - issued May 4, 1493 - that Spain cannot establish take lands which had already "come into the possession of any Christian lords." To mollify the two rival leaders, the pope drew a line of demarcation between the two poles, giving Spain rights of conquest and dominion over one side of the globe, and Portugal over the other.

The genocide and conquest committed by Columbus and his men against the peaceful Native people of the Caribbean were sanctioned by the above mentioned documents of the Catholic Church. These papal documents were frequently used by Europeans in the Americas to justify an very inhuman style of colonization - which dehumanized the indigenous people by regarding their territories as being "inhabited only by brute animals."

The Christian "Law of Nations" asserted that Christian nations had a divine right, based on the Bible, to claim absolute title to and ultimate authority over any newly "discovered" Non-Christian indigenous peoples and their lands. Over the next several centuries, these beliefs gave rise to the Doctrine of Discovery used by Spain, Portugal, England, France, and Holland.

So to answer your question, our ancestors did. And you could say because they would not recognize the humanity and rights of the indigenous people no sovereignty was violated as none was recognized.

But that was very disingenuous as way to get around the problem of ignoring laws and rights of people with sovereignty, isn't it?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   18:57:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#58. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

The genocide and conquest committed by Columbus and his men against the peaceful Native people of the Caribbean were sanctioned by the above mentioned documents of the Catholic Church.

According to the ADL and B'nai B'rith, Columbus was a Jew seeking a new land for the Jews expelled from Spain.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22 19:07:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Ferret Mike, noone222 (#56)

In 1452, Pope Nicholas V issued to King Alfonso V of Portugal the bull Romanus Pontifex, declaring war against all non-Christians throughout the world, and specifically sanctioning and promoting the conquest, colonization, and exploitation of non- Christian nations and their territories.

In the Old Testament, war, plunder and conquest of non-Jews is sanctioned. The Vatican learned it from the Hebrew scriptures.

The genocide and conquest committed by Columbus and his men against the peaceful Native people of the Caribbean were sanctioned by the above mentioned documents of the Catholic Church.

This needs to be on this thread also:


At least five members of the expedition, including the surgeon, Marco, the ship's doctor, Bernal, and the interpreter, Louis Torres, were Jews. Torres was the first European to tread on American soil and also the first to discover the use of tobacco. He won the good-will of a Cuban chief and received from him large grants of land and many slaves as presents. Columbus' recognition of his indebtedness to the Jews is shown also by the fact that the first detailed account of his discoveries was addressed to his Jewish patron, Louis de Santangel, and a similar letter was sent to Gabriel Sanchez.

Source: Jewish Reference Book: B'nai B'rith Manual
Edited by Samuel S. Cohon
Cincinnati, Ohio
1926 pp. 248-250


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