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Title: White Supremacists Ratchet Up Anti-Hispanic Action As U.S. Immigration Debate Rages
Source: www.adl.org
URL Source: http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Extremism_72/4822_72.htm
Published: Jun 22, 2006
Author: staff
Post Date: 2006-06-22 12:38:17 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 4302
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New York, NY, May 24, 2006 … As the national debate over immigration continues to hold the national spotlight, neo-Nazis and white supremacists have ratcheted up their anti-Hispanic action, using everything from Internet video games to street demonstrations and other confrontational tactics in an effort to exploit the debate as a means to spread hate. Their goal is to draw new attention to their hateful notions about minorities and hopes for making America a nation for "Whites only."

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which monitors and reports on the activities of far-right extremists, has updated its online report, "Extremists Declare 'Open Season' on Immigrants" with new information showing that extremists continue to focus their energies on Hispanic hate-mongering through racist rhetoric, crude stereotypes, and threats of using violence to intimidate illegal immigrants.

"As we have gotten deeper into the discussion on immigration, the white supremacist movement has reinvigorated itself and closed ranks around the cause of fighting immigration and turning America into a nation for 'Whites only'", said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "The immigration debate has provided the perfect storm for America's white supremacist fringe to recruit, organize and sow the seeds of racial discord and hate."

On the Internet, right-wing extremists have championed video games such as "Border Patrol," where the aim is to shoot to kill Mexicans as they attempt to cross the border, and used their Web sites to spread hateful anti-Hispanic messages. In the real world, white supremacist leaders have organized protests and encouraged their followers to act violently against immigrants or anyone of Hispanic origin.

Anti-Hispanic Violence

ADL's report cites two recent incidents as the latest in a multi-year trend of increasing violence targeting Hispanics:

•A teenager was arrested in East Hampton, Long Island, on April 29 after he allegedly threatened a Hispanic teenager with a machete and chased a second teenager with a chain saw while shouting racial epithets. Described by classmates as a skinhead, the alleged perpetrator had posted to the Internet photographs of himself posing as a Nazi and adorning a shed with swastikas.

•David Henry Tuck, 18, and Keith Robert Turner, 17, were arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault in the brutal April 22 attack of a teenage Hispanic high school student in Houston. The victim was beaten and sodomized with a plastic pipe from a patio umbrella, then kicked in the head with steel-toed boots.

White Supremacist Protests

In recent weeks, white supremacists have organized protests, rallies and other events across the country:

•In Seattle, Washington, and Las Vegas, Nevada, members of the neo-Nazi National Vanguard held anti-immigration protests on May 20. On its Web site, the National Vanguard declared that day to be a "day of protest against George W. Bush's plan to destroy America," calling the president's immigration proposals a "sellout of the nation."

•In Keene, New Hampshire, New England members of the Arkansas-based neo-Nazi group White Revolution held a self-described "anti-invasion" demonstration on May 7 to protest "the invasion of America by illegal non white hordes.'

•In Russellville, Alabama, members of the Alabama chapter of the Indiana-based National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan held an anti-immigration rally on May 6, yelling "Let's get rid of the Mexicans!" After the rally, the Klansmen burned a cross in a field outside of town.

•In Montgomery, Alabama, the neo-Confederate group League of the South and the Coalition against Illegal Immigration together organized an anti-immigration "Cinco de Mayo" demonstration on May 5. The event was promoted in the racist and anti-Semitic newspaper, "First Freedom."

•In Greenville, South Carolina, the racist Council of Conservative Citizens held an anti-immigration demonstration on April 29 in front of the offices of Republican Congressman Lindsey Graham, where they burned Mexican flags and displayed signs such as "More INS, Less IRS," "Vote for Pedro to Go Home," and "I Didn't Fight in Iraq for Illegal Aliens."

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#54. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

The absence of white nationalism is one important reason why we've allowed this illegal invasion. Sign me up. We either fight them now, or

or do we intend to wait until we're totally outnumbered ?

My sentiments exactly.

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams ... and I concur !

noone222  posted on  2006-06-22   18:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike (#50)

They are migrating because of corporatists taking advantage of circumstances to manipulate them to so so to find a better life.

When in history have migrants ignored the laws of a sovereign nation?

Your wilful failure to identify these migrants as illegal immigrants is a transparent, leftist ploy.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-22   18:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

"When in history have migrants ignored the laws of a sovereign nation?"

Ours and those of people from Spain, Portugal, and other nations got around it by using a papal document issued forty years before Columbus' voyage. In 1452, Pope Nicholas V issued to King Alfonso V of Portugal the bull Romanus Pontifex, declaring war against all non-Christians throughout the world, and specifically sanctioning and promoting the conquest, colonization, and exploitation of non- Christian nations and their territories.

In an 'Inter Cetera' document, Pope Alexander said that the "discovered" people be "subjugated and brought to the faith itself." Later when Portugal protested this concession to Spain, Pope Alexander stipulated in a subsequent bull - issued May 4, 1493 - that Spain cannot establish take lands which had already "come into the possession of any Christian lords." To mollify the two rival leaders, the pope drew a line of demarcation between the two poles, giving Spain rights of conquest and dominion over one side of the globe, and Portugal over the other.

The genocide and conquest committed by Columbus and his men against the peaceful Native people of the Caribbean were sanctioned by the above mentioned documents of the Catholic Church. These papal documents were frequently used by Europeans in the Americas to justify an very inhuman style of colonization - which dehumanized the indigenous people by regarding their territories as being "inhabited only by brute animals."

The Christian "Law of Nations" asserted that Christian nations had a divine right, based on the Bible, to claim absolute title to and ultimate authority over any newly "discovered" Non-Christian indigenous peoples and their lands. Over the next several centuries, these beliefs gave rise to the Doctrine of Discovery used by Spain, Portugal, England, France, and Holland.

So to answer your question, our ancestors did. And you could say because they would not recognize the humanity and rights of the indigenous people no sovereignty was violated as none was recognized.

But that was very disingenuous as way to get around the problem of ignoring laws and rights of people with sovereignty, isn't it?

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   18:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

"Your willful failure to identify these migrants as illegal immigrants is a transparent, leftist ploy."

I clearly stated in an earlier post that they have violated the law and contrasted those violations with those who dreamed up and promoted the migration.

Besides, you see ploys in how I toy with words, I see them in the words of many who post from the right wing end of the political scale, so what is so diabolical about your observations when from my perspective I see much of the same thing from my point of view emanating from others?

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

The genocide and conquest committed by Columbus and his men against the peaceful Native people of the Caribbean were sanctioned by the above mentioned documents of the Catholic Church.

According to the ADL and B'nai B'rith, Columbus was a Jew seeking a new land for the Jews expelled from Spain.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   19:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

"The absence of white nationalism is one important reason why we've allowed this illegal invasion. Sign me up. We either fight them now, or leave the mess for our kids."

White Nationalism is a far different thing then mere pride in one's heritage. It is the advocacy of a separation of human beings based on race and involves the break-up of the United States and the deep sixing of the U.S. Constitution.

To believe in the Balkanization if the United States and in ethnic cleansing, you have to be insane.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mehitable (#33)

I am so angry and outraged about this invasion, which is grossly apparent to me whenever I go to a public place in Massachusetts now that I am having trouble typing.

You should see some of the formerly beautiful state parks in South Carolina that have been overrun by the Mexicans. Nothing like the stench of stale urine and decaying fecal matter hitting your nose while walking through the woods on a nice sunny day. Don't even get ne started on the piles of dirty diapers in the changing houses at the beach, or on the shelves at Wal-Mart, for that matter...

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-06-22   19:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: bluegrass (#58)

"According to the ADL and B'nai B'rith, Columbus was a Jew seeking a new land for the Jews expelled from Spain."

I assume then you have a link for this? Columbus had no idea if he would find China, a new land. I am also skeptical that the wedge issue anti-Semitism became in the 20th Century existed as an fully evolved ploy in 13th Century Spain and that Columbus was in a convoluted ploy to execute an exodus of an entire population across an expanse of ocean in a world that rarely saw ships leaving the sight of land.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

We either fight them now, or leave the mess for our kids.

I get the distinct impression most caucasian Americans are quite comfortable "leaving a mess for their kids". Precisely WHY I didn't have any.

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-06-22   19:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: who knows what evil (#62)

"I get the distinct impression most Caucasian Americans are quite comfortable "leaving a mess for their kids". Precisely WHY I didn't have any."

Because most people are too smart to buy into the discredited and false vilification of people to use them as a wedge issue bait to create panic and fear enough to buy into an agenda nobody with common sense and a cool head would fall for a moment.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Ferret Mike (#59)

People tend to segregate themselves, onve free of government interference. There's nothing wrong with that in and of itself although some take it as a belief system rather than a preference for what one is accustomed to. Social engineering is the real threat, and I'd ask all the bushbots, bureaucrats, neocons, and "Free Trade" morons why they hate the UN sometimes.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-22   19:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

I assume then you have a link for this?

I have the ADL/B'nai B'rith Year Book from the 1920's in which a long article on the topic is published.

I'll scan and post it in the next few days.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   19:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

I know exactly what Red Coats are, and Mexicans are in no way shape and form like King George III's army. ;-)

Yeah, Red Coats can fight; Mexicans can't. The only battle they've ever won was the Alamo, in which they outnumbered and outgunened the defenders, and later in the Battle of San Jacinto, when the Texans went over the top of the barricades the Mexicans turned tail and ran rather than fight.

I have no use for Mexicans. We should have kept the country when we conquered it. Mexicans have certainly shown themselves unable to govern it, not surprising since Mexicans are a failed race, and as such, Mexico is a failed country, and always will be.

Freeper motto: "I read, but do not understand; I write, but make no sense."

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-06-22   19:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#59)

It is the advocacy of a separation of human beings based on race

Hey Mike. I'm 56 y/o and what you describe above is exactly what I've lived with all my life - this despite the abolition of the Jim Crow laws, the installation of the Great Society and forced integration via school busing. After all these sociological convolutions, in NYC today, blacks live with blacks, whites with whites and Hispanics with Hispanics. We're back to 1963 and it's fine by me. People are free to live where they want, including the racially pure enclave of their choice. I fully support the Nation of Islam and their desire for racial separation. I'd be more than happy to divide this nation up by race. I prefer to live with whites, sit with whites, socialize with whites, but I reserve the right to integrate with other people where and when I choose. They, of course, can refuse this right of association. It’s called freedom.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-22   19:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Dagmar (#64)

You are blurring freedom of association and the propensity people sometime have to chose those of similar background and who have been victim to some degree of the taint of racial bigotry to not want to associate based on race from the wholesale call to carve a White homeland out of the United States precipitating a disintegration of the Union and an end or minimization of the U.S. Constitution.

Not only is this foolish and endangers entire populations to be preyed upon by ethnic cleansing and force thousands to become refugees, it offers other foreign powers the chance to come in and pick off some of the new, smaller nations.

White nationalism is a bad concept based on exploiting racial, religious or ethnic fears and intolerances to destroy the United States and to make a Balkanized mess out of it.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ferret Mike (#63)

Because most people are too smart to buy into the discredited and false vilification of people to use them as a wedge issue bait to create panic and fear enough to buy into an agenda nobody with common sense and a cool head would fall for a moment.

They pumped us full of all kinds of Zero Population Growth propaganda at the upper working class elementary school I attended. Now we have to import malnourished, disease carrying victims of NAFTA into each and every comunity in the entire 48?

Social engineering puts too much power into the hands of mere mortals, thus is bound to be abused.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-22   19:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ferret Mike (#68)

carve a White homeland out of the United States

Are you in favor of the Jewish state?

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   19:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Jethro Tull (#67)

You are four years older then I and I remember much the same historic time period.

In many places people mix and get along just fine too. There is no need for White nationalism to fix what is not broken.

The trend in places like NYC you cite today is not what it was in the Jim Crow days and as we get older, more mature as a people and a nation there will continue to be far less separation between people by that basis.

Which is why it is a perfect wedge issue for racists to exploit in their desire to create a homeland with it's own laws against people who look different then they do.

No thanks, I am too smart to buy into the hate and bait tactics of wedge issue politics.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: bluegrass (#70)

"Are you in favor of the Jewish state?"

Are you in favor of Holocaust denial to make it easier to get back to the business of exterminating Jews?

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ferret Mike (#68)

White nationalism? You really think that's my cause, my dream? What is it with you and forcing your values on others, can't you see that's just as heinous as giggling at people because they don't keep up with latest hairstyles?

Tolerance should be expected. "Celebrating Diversity", on the other hand, sounds like a sales pitch for a product I bought at gunpoint.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-22   19:40:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Ferret Mike (#72)

Are you in favor of the Jewish state?

Yes or no.

Don't dodge it , dude.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   19:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: bluegrass (#74)

"Yes or no.

Don't dodge it , dude."

I've answered it before Dude, and you know it.

I know your game. And you know I know it too.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Ferret Mike (#75)

I've answered it before Dude, and you know it.

You didn't answer it with me.

Are you in favor of the Jewish state? Yes or no?

I know your game.

I was onto you from the get-go, commissar.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   19:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: bluegrass (#76)

"You didn't answer it with me."

You don't say you didn't see the answer.

"I was onto you from the get-go, commissar."

You only prove you assume too much too easily and could not prove such bilge because it lacks truth and veracity to it.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Ferret Mike (#77)

I haven't seen dodges that clumsy since third grade recess.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   19:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: bluegrass (#78)

"I haven't seen dodges that clumsy since third grade recess."

You still don't answer whether you saw the answer regardless of whether I was specifically addressing it to you.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   19:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Ferret Mike (#79)

You like getting paddled like that dog in the cartoon, don't you?

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   20:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: bluegrass (#78)

I haven't seen dodges that clumsy since third grade recess.

The Artless Dodger.

Ferrets are members of the weasel family.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-06-22   20:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: bluegrass (#80)

"You like getting paddled like that dog in the cartoon, don't you?"

You really think such an ad homenin attack hurts me? It makes you look bad, not me.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   20:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#81)

"Ferrets are members of the weasel family."

Actually, Mustilid. But as some FReepers over the years have mistaken these predators of burrowing animals as rodent, you are actually closer to their taxonomic nomenclature then most, congratulations. ;-D

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   20:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Ferret Mike (#82)

You really think such an ad homenin attack hurts me?

Not at all. You appear used to looking foolish by not being able to answer a simple yes or no question.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   20:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#81)

Ferrets are members of the weasel family.

They stink up a house too.

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   20:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: bluegrass (#85)

"They stink up a house too."

So does an intact tom cat. Ferrets are often descended as are other pet Mustilids. So what does the indirect ad homenim do beside show you have a weak argument to argue your point?

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   20:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: bluegrass (#84)

"Not at all. You appear used to looking foolish by not being able to answer a simple yes or no question."

I've answer the question. You don't answer mine concerning whether you have seen it or not.

Therefore your opinion concerning how I look is subjective as best.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   20:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Ferret Mike (#87)

I've answer the question. You don't answer mine concerning whether you have seen it or not.

I asked because I've never seen your opinion on the matter.

Are you in favor of the Jewish State? Yes or no?

"All of the rabbis appeared on my behalf, the ADL guy appeared on my behalf. Finally they voted to let me in."
-Warren Buffett on his membership at Highland Country Club

bluegrass  posted on  2006-06-22   20:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Ferret Mike (#71)

No thanks, I am too smart to buy into the hate and bait tactics of wedge issue politics.

You miss the point; there's no hate involved. People are free to live where they choose, with whom they choose. The result, post 40 years of "civil rights'? Harlem is black, Williamsburg is Hispanic, and Bay Ridge is white. It's freedom of association at work. Such is life.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-22   20:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull (#89)

No thanks, I am too smart to buy into the hate and bait tactics of wedge issue politics.

It's people like you made daily two hour school bus trips for inner city students a reality.

See how easy it is to sling accusations?

What is it about people that want to be left alone bothers you so?

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-06-22   20:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: bluegrass (#88)

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#59. To: bluegrass (#53)

"Recall that Zionists were the last supporters of Biko's murderers. You support the ADL, one of the heads of the Zionist hydra in America." Yes, there was indeed an unholy alliance between Israel and the South African Government of that era. The Israelis were instrumental in helping them bypass much of the weapons and military equipment embargo, and U.S. satellites picked up a "zoo animal," code word for nuclear test occurring in South Africa that undoubtedly was the test firing of an Israeli Nuclear weapon.

I remember this well, and this was one of my earliest sources of frustration and anger at the government of Israel.

As far as the ADL goes, I support Good work they have done just as I support Israel's right to exist. I have my criticism of both as well as my praise, which is why I found your comments in your ping to Christine so amusing.

I loathe Bush and much of the co opting of the government by large trans- national corporations, but that doesn't mean I am anti-American and don't support the U.S. government when it does good things. Remember too I was in Special Forces in the United States Army and took part in the un-necessary and illegal invasion of Panama during Operation Just Cause under the auspices of GHW Bush's presidency as well.

You haven't? They why was my answer directed to you then?

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   21:08:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Dakmar (#90)

"What is it about people that want to be left alone bothers you so?"

Why do you confuse the right to free association with the goals of White Nationalism to Balkanize the United States and destroy the U.S. Constitution?

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-06-22   21:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Dakmar (#90)

Wanna live next to me?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-06-22   21:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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