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Title: Proof Positive: Google Video on Remote Viewing (Psi)
Source: google
URL Source: http://video.google.com/videoplay?d ... 11543&q=remote+viewing&pl=true
Published: Jun 26, 2006
Author: none
Post Date: 2006-06-26 14:38:37 by gengis gandhi
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Views: 187
Comments: 12

remote viewing is a fact, a latent ability all of us have.

why do you suppose the establishment goes out of its way to debunk psi phenomenon?

do they debunk things that normally constitute a threat to existing power structures?

i submit to you that the ultimate demise of existing power structures, as is happening now with the internet, is complete access to information.

in this way, the stock in trade of these controllers, illusion and lies, is utterly destroyed, and entirely worthless.

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Remote Viewing by and large is a farce, a joke, and worse.

When you have loons like Ed Dhames and other ilk being the spokespeople for it, how can ANYONE Take it seriously?

When I've seen his little dog and pony show on various media outlets, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. If he won't talk to James Randi, and prove his claim, then it's not worth buying his book.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-06-26   14:47:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

you should never confuse an idea with a person, to do so is to kill the messenger, a common trap of logic.

watch the video.

better yet, do not rely on others opinions to reach a conclusion.

you are dealing then with only beliefs.

if you want to find out if something is valid, only experience of the thing can teach that.

the cia and others still remote view, denials notwithstanding.

of course, everyone is familiar with 'intuition' which is merely a safe catch phrase for the same phenomenon: mothers who 'know' a child is in danger, lovers who 'know' what the other is doing, those who 'think' of the very person who a moment later calls them, and of course, traders and gamblers whose proof of following hunches is their success at their endeavors.

i too was skeptical, but i do not allow others, especially the establishment, to form my beliefs.

because i was interested, i myself investigated this phenomenon. my experience has shown me the validity, and not once, countless times.

but, it is merely a skill that can be learned. like all skills, there is a wide range of proficiency.

are you familiar with the native americans terming america 'turtle island'?

when viewed from above, america looks somewhat like a turtle, with fla being the head....

since they had no ablitity to travel into space, nor maps of any sort, the answer to such a phenomenon is outside contemporary belief systems of human ability.

this is but one example, there are countless others.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-06-26   14:58:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

by the way, randi is a fraud, and a tool of the establishment.

who would benefit, ultimately, by the denial of such an ability?

those who espouse it, the establishment.

and what does the establishment seek to maintain?

power.

so, they do nothing without reason.

if you don't believe them about 90% of anything else, 911, etc, should you now find them credible?

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-06-26   15:01:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Personally I believe in much of the paranormal, as I've experienced many things directly. I think remote viewing is a definite possibility. I was just teasing ya :)

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-26   15:03:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

i understand.

that really wouldn't bother me too much anyway, as skepticism in anything other than the present status quo is about as far as most people allow themselves to think.

you have to understand, this is the main cornerstone of the power of the elite, deception.

it is my observation that the louder the indignant cries of fraud or doubt from the establisment, the more likely one is onto something valid.

one need only look at the vast array of recent evidence....anyone who challenges the official stance is called what?

a conspiracy kook.

yet, now, many believe the official stance on iraq, 911, the past election, etc is false.

before they were kooks, now they are relevant, tommorow they will be called visionaires.

in fact, many government agencies send their employees to these seminars, specifically, Silva Mind Control, or the Silva Method, which was the first course i took.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-06-26   15:14:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I just think most people are afraid of what they don't understand. I can understand skepticism, but outright disbelief and being insulting is not a scientific method. One of my favorite shows on TV is "Ghost Hunters", maybe you've seen it. It's a team headed by a couple of Roto Rooter plumbers, who investigate alleged hauntings. Their primary goal is to debunk the haunting, or to find non-paranormal explanations, if they can. But sometimes, they just are stuck with evidence they simply cannot explain, whether it's their personal experiences, or things they've photographed or audio-taped and they have to conclude that there is something paranormal going on. They are extremely professional and embody the right attitude of open-minded scientific inquiry.

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-26   15:17:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

oh, absolutely.

and if they had a consistent philosophy it would be another matter, but even within their own beliefs they are inconsistent.

an example is religious types, who believe in the afterlife, but not earth bound spirits, like ghosts...you can't have one without the other.

the most common factor i see that restrict people, especially science, the new god, is this:

they are led by their 'hypothesis', not by the facts the research uncovers.

so, when faced with evidence contradicting the original belief, they ignore or attempt to somehow diminish it....when they find evidence that supports the original belief, they quickly accept it without the same scrutiny.

this is pretty much the way most people go through life.

but the evolution of consciousness and accrual of power is entirely self directed.

the arguments made for refuting anything out of the ordinary are always the same, but no one ever learns from it....one can hear the same claims made years ago against the validity of flight, or space travel, or even a heliocentric universe or spherical earth...

'its not possible because it doesn't fit in with current thinking'

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-06-26   15:27:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, I figure almost anything is possible - just because we don't understand how, right now, doesn't mean it doesn't exist or can't be done. It just requires an open mind and investigation, rather than an automatic fear response. But that fear response is very intense - people want to believe what makes them comfortable. For some people, that could be a very orthodox religion, for others it could be atheism.

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-26   15:29:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

who would say that in their personal life they have never had a single moment of intuition?

they knew something that they 'should' not know, that was beyond the five senses.

ok, fine.

so then, what is that?

a hunch, a vibe, a gut feeling, etc.

police detectives worldwide will admit to following gut feelings, and often being right.

so, what is that?

call it what you will, its all the same thing.

but the fact is, no one is 'owed' proof of anything by an establishment that has been proven to be built on lies, and who exists daily by the lie.

to expect truth from them in this matter is utterly bizarre.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-06-26   15:34:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My boyfriend is very skeptical, but yet things happen to him fairly often. He has intuition, as you say - hunches - and he's usually correct. He has seen odd things (as have I). However, the next day, it's nothing of course. Just his imagination. I don't understand why we cling so desperately to the four walls when there might be a fifth one if we just relaxed a little.

mehitable  posted on  2006-06-26   15:36:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

the reason people do that, i believe, is because they truly associate their beliefs with their identity, the same reason people who have enough evidence to know their political party is a menace yet vote the same way.

they've alot invested, ego wise, into these beliefs. 'i can't be wrong!', because then i will have to reevaluate every single premise i have lived under, and that is pretty much who i think i am.

it can be a painful experience finding out that past 'truths' were in fact lies.

but the ego identity and trying to preseve that at all costs is the reason most people refuse to look further.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-06-26   15:56:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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