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Title: Pope fears Bush is antichrist, journalist contends - Church - journalist Wayne Madsden - Brief Article
Source: Catholic New Times
URL Source: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0MKY/is_9_27/ai_108881880
Published: May 18, 2003
Author: Catholic New Times
Post Date: 2005-04-02 17:46:38 by robin
Keywords: antichrist,, journalist, journalist
Views: 479
Comments: 38

WASHINGTON DC -- According to freelance journalist Wayne Madsden, "George W Bush's blood lust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs and his constant references to 'evil doers,' in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations--the anti-Christ."

Madsen, a Washington-based writer and columnist, who often writes for Counterpunch, says that people close to the pope claim that amid these concerns, the pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations. John Paul II has always believed the world was on the precipice of the final confrontation between Good and Evil as foretold in the New Testament.

Before he became pope, Karol Cardinal Wojtyla said, "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of the American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel."

The pope worked tirelessly to convince leaders of nations on the UN Security Council to oppose Bush's war resolution on Iraq. Vatican sources claim they had not seen the pope more animated and determined since he fell ill to Parkinson's Disease. In the end, the pope did convince the leaders of Mexico, Chile, Cameroon and Guinea to oppose the U.S. resolution.

Madsen contends that "Bush is a dangerous right-wing ideologue who couples his political fanaticism with a neo-Christian blood cult."

COPYRIGHT 2003 Catholic New Times, Inc.

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Notice the date, the Church and the Pope have had plenty of time to refute this, had they chosen to do so.

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#1. To: All, aristeides, wbales, Zipporah, 1776, christine, CAPPSMADNESS, Jethro Tull (#0)

For the record ping.

robin  posted on  2005-04-02   17:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#1)

Well.. on the book of Revelation I would probably part company with Madsen.. from what he's written re the antiChrist.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-02   17:52:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

This is the article/link that aristeides posted on LP, where it was deleted for being uncivil.

I decided it deserved more attention on that score alone.

robin  posted on  2005-04-02   18:07:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#3)

Uncivil? Controversial perhaps.. but uncivil?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-02   18:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#0)

I don't think Bush is the antichrist--he's just yet another Zionist stooge.

wbales  posted on  2005-04-02   18:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#4)

Any post painting Smirk as evil, must by definition be uncivil in the world of TOS and TOS2. Sometimes the truth is uncivil.

robin  posted on  2005-04-02   18:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: wbales (#5)

I don't either, he's waaaay tooo stupid to be the anti-christ. But, the remarks about Smirk's blood lust are telling.

robin  posted on  2005-04-02   18:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#6)

Any post painting Smirk as evil, must by definition be uncivil in the world of TOS and TOS2.

Exactly.. unreal isnt it.. surprising that there have been those who tried to discredit this site for being to narrow.. what the heck?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-02   18:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#3)

Thanks for posting this. I am still horrified that they deleted my link on LP.

aristeides  posted on  2005-04-02   18:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#7)

And as to this article being in any way "uncivil": LP??? Goldi-Lox???? HELLO!!

I wonder how it would be received on FreeRepublic.com?

wbales  posted on  2005-04-02   18:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: wbales (#5)

I don't think Bush is the antichrist--he's just yet another Zionist stooge.

Yeah. The Bible says the anti-christ will have a pleasing personage. Bush and his goofy smirk are repulsive.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-04-02   18:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#7)

I don't either, he's waaaay tooo stupid to be the anti-christ.

Well, I don't know, but I bet the real antichrist will be able to speak proper English.

wbales  posted on  2005-04-02   18:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: crack monkey (#11)

The Bible says the anti-christ will have a pleasing personage.

It also refers to him as the great deceiver, which Bush most definitely is.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   18:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: wbales (#12)

When the College of Cardinals votes for the new Pope, does Diebold handle the tally? If so I predict Jeff Gannon will be the next Pope.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-04-02   18:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: crack monkey (#14)

That would be quite an accomplishment, at least if the reports are true that Guckert is a Lutheran.

aristeides  posted on  2005-04-02   18:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: aristeides (#15)

That would be quite an accomplishment, at least if the reports are true that Guckert is a Lutheran.

Guckert could claim the he converted to Catholicism during his stint in the Texas National Guard.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-04-02   18:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: crack monkey (#14)

When the College of Cardinals votes for the new Pope, does Diebold handle the tally? If so I predict Jeff Gannon will be the next Pope.

LOL!

robin  posted on  2005-04-02   18:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#7)

I don't either, he's waaaay tooo stupid to be the anti-christ.

Agreed. Bill Clinton, however, has many of the qualities attributed to the Anti-Christ. Does he still covet that Secretary of the UN position? Hmmm...

who knows what evil  posted on  2005-04-02   18:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#17)

does Diebold handle the tally?

Word is it definitely will NOT be an american.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   18:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: crack monkey, christine (#14)

When the College of Cardinals votes for the new Pope,...

Unless those Papal electoral duties have now been transferred to the Knesset.

wbales  posted on  2005-04-02   18:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: who knows what evil (#18)

Bill Clinton, however, has many of the qualities attributed to the Anti-Christ. Does he still covet that Secretary of the UN position?

The anti-christ is also suppose to be much loved at first. That counts him out.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   18:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: justlurking (#19)

Word is it definitely will NOT be an american.

Then maybe Perl or Wolfowitz?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-04-02   18:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: justlurking (#19)

Word is it definitely will NOT be an american.

No kidding...most are too busy trying to hack into Michael Jackson's personal computer.

who knows what evil  posted on  2005-04-02   18:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin (#1)

Whoa mama...I never read that before. Thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-02   18:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: wbales (#5)

I don't think Bush is the antichrist--he's just yet another Zionist stooge.

I agree. The Biblical Antichrist is killed and miraculously returns to life (copying Christ's death, burial and resurrection). Bush has not had a death or near death experience. (Except possibly in private, experimenting with drugs). Bush is an antichrist, not THE Antichrist.

I believe the Antichrist will be the bodily return of Judas, the son of perdition. He will be a Jew, have one eye and one arm and will dispise women and will come from Europe.

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-04-02   18:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: CWRWinger (#25)

The Biblical Antichrist is killed and miraculously returns to life (copying Christ's death, burial and resurrection). Bush has not had a death or near death experience.

This is true. If I remember correctly, it is suppose to be a head wound.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   18:54:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: justlurking (#26)

it is suppose to be a head wound.

The first scripture on the head wound:

Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Jesus talking to his disciples:
John 17:12
While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Paul speaking on the last days:

2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-04-02   19:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CWRWinger (#27)

I thought I read it in Revelations. Lord, lemme go take a look.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   19:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: CWRWinger (#27)

Then again, I may have read too many Left Behind books.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   19:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: justlurking (#28)

I thought I read it in Revelations. Lord, lemme go take a look.

It is:

Revelation 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Revelation 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-04-02   19:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: crack monkey (#11)

I don't think that Bush is the anti-Christ, but I do think that he and satan have much in common.

Don  posted on  2005-04-02   20:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: CWRWinger, justlurking (#25)

The Biblical Antichrist is killed and miraculously returns to life (copying Christ's death, burial and resurrection). Bush has not had a death or near death experience. (Except possibly in private, experimenting with drugs). Bush is an antichrist, not THE Antichrist.

well, does chocking on a pretzel, passing out and hitting your head qualify???

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-04-02   20:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#32)

well, does chocking on a pretzel, passing out and hitting your head qualify???

LOL!!

robin  posted on  2005-04-02   21:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#32)

well, does chocking on a pretzel, passing out and hitting your head qualify???

LMAO! Well, hells bells, maybe?

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   21:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#32)

well, does chocking on a pretzel, passing out and hitting your head qualify???

~choking on a pretzel and turning blue? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-02   21:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: justlurking (#34)

LMAO! Well, hells bells, maybe?

Hey! it was kind of a near death experience, wasn't it?

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-04-02   21:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#36)

Hey! it was kind of a near death experience, wasn't it?

For him, probably so.

justlurking  posted on  2005-04-02   21:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: justlurking (#21)

years ago, many of my christian protestant friends thought the anti-christ would be a pope.

christine  posted on  2005-04-03   1:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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