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Title: Putin Plan To Shut Out US Oil Giants
Source: The Observer
URL Source: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/busi ... y/0,,1826629,00.html?gusrc=rss
Published: Jul 22, 2006
Author: The Observer
Post Date: 2006-07-22 21:40:15 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 283
Comments: 24

Kremlin will favour Norwegian firms to develop Barents Sea field after differences with Bush scupper Russia's bid to join WTO

Sunday July 23, 2006

President Vladimir Putin is set to keep US oil companies out of a lucrative gas field in the latest sign of the deteriorating relationship between Moscow and Washington.

The Russian leader is expected to favour Norwegian companies and reject bids by America's Chevron and ConocoPhillips after failing to secure backing from the United States for his country's attempt to join the World Trade Organisation.

The tit-for-tat snub will be a blow to US companies scrambling for access to Russia's huge gas reserves at a time of high energy prices. It comes after Putin failed to resolve differences with US President George Bush over trade and human rights at the G8 conference in St Petersburg last week.

The two leaders were barbed about each other's democratic records at a tense G8 press conference. Putin later publicly praised Norsk Hydro and Statoil, the Norwegian firms that are competing with US companies for a role in developing the highly prized Shtokman gas field.

'There is very little chance the American majors will win that tender now,' a Russian oil analyst said yesterday. 'Putin was hoping WTO membership would be wrapped up in time for St Petersburg. The failure to do that is a blow to his prestige.'

A final decision on awarding the contracts - which involves extracting and transporting gas from Shtokman in partnership with Gazprom, the Russian state-controlled company - was also originally expected before the G8 summit but has been postponed until next month at the earliest.

As well as the US and Norwegian companies, Total of France is also on the shortlist to develop the 3.7 trillion cubic metre gas field, which is located in the Barents Sea, near the Arctic Circle.

Igor Shuvalov, a Putin aide, warned in April that the US firms' chances of participating in the undersea drilling project were tied to US support for Russia's WTO bid, although this has since been denied by the Kremlin.

Last week, however, Putin singled out the Norwegian bidders for praise when asked by reporters about energy deposits in the Barents Sea.

'You have probably heard that we are holding talks with several countries on the development of different fields, but companies from Norway are among the first on this list,' he said.

He added: 'They don't go around with their noses in the air. They work objectively, very professionally.' Viktor Khristenko, the Russian energy minister, also praised the Norwegian firms' record on protecting the environment last week.

Analysts have tipped the Kremlin to pick the Norwegian contractors following the recent resolution of a Barents Sea territorial dispute between Oslo and Moscow.

But the Shtokman project is also important to Russia's long-term relations with the US, since most gas from the field is to be shipped to north America in the form of liquefied natural gas. Participation by Chevron or ConocoPhillips could help ease access to the US market.

Russia has been very reluctant to allow foreign oil groups access to its energy reserves other than as junior partners on joint ventures with Gazprom. Russia supplies 25 per cent of the European Union's gas but has also resisted EU demands that it loosen Gazprom's control over the country's pipeline network.

A dispute over gas prices earlier this year between Russia and Ukraine led to temporary disruptions in the flow of gas to western Europe and prompted Dick Cheney, the US vice president, to accuse Moscow of using energy as a tool of 'intimidation and blackmail'.

But these diplomatic ructions have not extinguished the appetite of western investors for Russian energy stocks. Last week the oil group Rosneft successfully floated in London and Moscow with a $10.4bn placing.

Despite its size, the IPO represents only a small fraction of Rosneft's total equity, and the company remains majority-controlled by the Russian state.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Hmmmmm Wonder what living in Russia would be like?

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-07-22   22:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

I would say it would be rather difficult if you did not know Russian.

Sam Houston  posted on  2006-07-23   12:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Sam Houston (#2)

I know enough to get me by. I would imaging being immersed in a culture would make you savvy pretty quickly.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-07-23   22:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

Hmmmmm Wonder what living in Russia would be like?

I dunno, but they sure have loads of gorgeous babes there. I would go there for the duration if I could make a living.

Unfortunately, I don't have the skills required to start a farm, which the gov't would give free land if I was an Americn farmer willing to emigrate and start up a truck farm to supply the farmers markets over there.

They've got it on the right track somewhat. Hope Putin keeps it together.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-23   22:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

Go get a degree in Agriculture, you'll be fine. Might as well get the Russian Language thing down too.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-07-24   0:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

Unfortunately, I don't have the skills required to start a farm, which the gov't would give free land if I was an Americn farmer willing to emigrate and start up a truck farm to supply the farmers markets over there.

What's this??? Have any details?

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-24   4:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: innieway (#6)

Unfortunately, I don't have the skills required to start a farm, which the gov't would give free land if I was an Americn farmer willing to emigrate and start up a truck farm to supply the farmers markets over there.

What's this??? Have any details?

It was something I saw in Acres USA several months ago. Not sure if I can find it again.

If you have never seen that publication, you may get a free sample copy. It's some cutting edge stuff and they are hip to the fraud of the FED and lots of other good stuff.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-24   8:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: BTP Holdings (#7)

It was something I saw in Acres USA several months ago. Not sure if I can find it again.

If you have never seen that publication, you may get a free sample copy. It's some cutting edge stuff and they are hip to the fraud of the FED and lots of other good stuff.

Acres is a publication George Gordon recommends. A long time friend brought the May copy over a couple of days ago, but I haven't had time to check it out much. This is another guy that I regularly barter with - we both like goat milk, but he lives in town and doesn't have a place to keep goats. So he bought into my goat herd and has part interest in them, and pays me in silver each month to milk a nanny for him.

Gordon also recommends The Moneychanger and The International Forecaster.

Have you heard of George Gordon? He's in Isabella MO.. He has a law school there. He has a one hour show each day that used to broadcast on GCN. He is no longer with GCN, and I can't find his live show anywhere but all his shows are archived on his website. It's called the Law Hour and Editorial Review. He is EXTREMELY informative, and I would venture to say (IMHO) THE authority on LEGALLY being out of the system. He also has uncanny abilities to "see through the nonsense". Everyone on this forum should listen to his commentary!! If you haven't already heard any of his stuff do yourself a favor and check him out!

http://www.georgegordon.com/Radio_Archives.htm

Just find a topic of interest, and get after it!! For most of you I would recommend (hard to pick HAHAHAHA) "Retirement At Risk" from Dec 05 as a good starting place.

To BTP (if you're into country life like I suspect, and have a few animals on your place) check out October Moneychanger from Nov 05... For your situation (like mine) this is vital info!!

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-24   10:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: innieway (#8)

Have you heard of George Gordon? He's in Isabella MO..

Isabella is right around the corner from me, maybe 20 miles. Trouble is I do not have money to get in on George's law course. I need that to help me on some things that are hanging out there.

I've only been here for a few months. I'm caretaker for 160 acres now, but that only covers my rent. No other pay so I have to try and make some bucks somewhere along the line. Not having much luck.

Not sure how I can find that issue of The Moneychanger. I found the site but no info on back issues that I see.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-24   11:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#9)

Isabella is right around the corner from me, maybe 20 miles. Trouble is I do not have money to get in on George's law course. I need that to help me on some things that are hanging out there.

Not sure how I can find that issue of The Moneychanger. I found the site but no info on back issues that I see.

George likes to barter too. Where there's a will, there's a way! Check out this page: http://www.georgegordon.com/tradelist.htm

As for the Moneychanger, just scroll down to Nov 05 on the archives website and click on either the winamp or realplayer symbol (on the dialup or broadband side, depending on what you have), sit back and listen. There are 3 parts to that series, so you'll have to go through that procedure 3 times. OR you can hit the MP3 button and download it to your drive to burn onto CD, and listen anywhere anytime you have access to a player that plays CDs. This is also a good option if you have family or friends that you'd like to share the info with.

Making that extra is often hard to do. I'm having my difficulties now too due mainly to the (dare I say induced) drought we've experienced the last few years. Last season's wheat turned out nil because of drought, and the continuing drought prevented my grass pasture from greening up anywhere near on time this spring, so I was forced to feed the wheat that was baled from the year before all last winter and well into the spring (summer actually). Normally, I would have had wheat all winter for my grazing, and only had to feed my bales for a short while during the time between when I needed to pull the livestock off to allow the wheat to get to the baling stage and the pasture greening up (about 2 months). Whereas I should have had enough to EASILY get by and extra to trade with, I've been forced to do a 180 and provide some labor FOR hay....

BUT, hang in there - we'll make it!!! We're on the right track, and the Creator knows it and loves us for it! In His infinite wisdom, I think He's giving us a chance to hone our resourcefulness and survival skills for the much more horrid events to come :)

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-24   12:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: innieway (#10)

OK, thanks. I just can't seem to find any archives on the Moneychanger site. Maybe it's something in the members section.

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-24   12:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BTP Holdings (#11)

OK, thanks. I just can't seem to find any archives on the Moneychanger site. Maybe it's something in the members section.

I'm sorry, I should have made it more clear.. The Moneychanger I was talking about is on Gordon's site.. He has a commentary on the October issue of the Moneychanger....

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-24   12:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: innieway (#12)

OK, got it. ;0)

"To be nobody-but-yourself - in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else - means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can ever fight; and never stop fighting." E.E. Cummings

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-24   13:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: innieway (#8)

ah! a friend of mine told me about George Gordon once. we never did get to hear his show. i'll check out his website. thanks for the link.

Police State America

christine  posted on  2006-07-24   17:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: innieway (#10)

if i'm not mistaken, doesn't George only accept silver in payment for his services?

Police State America

christine  posted on  2006-07-24   17:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

if i'm not mistaken, doesn't George only accept silver in payment for his services?

Gold, silver, or he barters. He's always looking for ways to barter here is his current "needs" list: http://www.georgegordon.com/tradelist.htm

I heard Alex Jones a couple of months ago talking very positively about Gordon.

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-24   17:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: innieway (#16)

neat

Police State America

christine  posted on  2006-07-24   21:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BTP Holdings, IW, all (#9)

George Gordon has several hours of CD's that he offers to anyone at no cost.

He's broadcasting somewhere out there, 'cause our local micro-guys have him from 6-7am every day here.


War - it's for the children

Lod  posted on  2006-07-27   16:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: innieway (#16)

Someone should suggest to George that he update his wish list a tad more frequently.


War - it's for the children

Lod  posted on  2006-07-27   17:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lodwick (#18)

I found out George got his butt kicked on a traffic ticket case out here. It seems there are a few things he hasn't got down just yet, and that is you DO NOT play hard ball with these bastards.

WHERE IS MY WARRANT!

That is what they can NEVER get on one of these bogus traffic stops, quite simply because there is no injured party and no corpus delecti. They can't produce the body of the crime because there isn't one. It is only their enforcer claiming you violated their administrative rules in the code. A gov't actor cannot be a complainant unless you agree to it.

If you want that license, then go ahead and be their slave, and continue to be plundered.

I say what Patrick Henry said, "Give me liberty or give me death!"

"Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Lord Keynes

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-27   17:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lodwick (#19)

Someone should suggest to George that he update his wish list a tad more frequently.

HAHAHA... I suppose more than once a year would't hurt.

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-27   17:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BTP Holdings (#20)

Pastor Butch Paugh and Ralph K. Winterrowd 2nd and Mark Stevens, seem to have the best handle on the DL/traffic stop/traffic court situation, from what little I know about it.

I just drive slowly.


War - it's for the children

Lod  posted on  2006-07-27   17:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: BTP Holdings (#20)

I found out George got his butt kicked on a traffic ticket case out here. It seems there are a few things he hasn't got down just yet

I heard him say once that he had won something like 68 cases in court out of around 80.. The numbers may be off a little, but the point is he hasn't won em all. BUT, his percentage is pretty good.

If you want that license, then go ahead and be their slave, and continue to be plundered.

Exactly!!! There is NO simpler way of putting it. Personally, I ride horseback whenever I can. But I don't have a DL, and I'm not getting one.

I heard a guy on Frank Whalen's show once (wish I could remember his name) who had gotten a "right to travel permit" issued from the state comptroller. The guy is a lawyer, and uses that permit to drive anywhere he wants, board airlines, etc. He claims that with that permit they can't write him a ticket in the first place because he hasn't agreed to the terms of the Transportation Code in the same way as getting a DL... Now, I'm not too sure I'd want that either, cause it's STILL a "government issued" instrument...

WHERE IS MY WARRANT!

Interesting! Is this something you inquire about when you get pulled over and they want to write a ticket? Or is it an argument in court? I'd like to hear a bit more about it..

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-27   22:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: innieway (#23)

I heard him say once that he had won something like 68 cases in court out of around 80.. The numbers may be off a little, but the point is he hasn't won em all. BUT, his percentage is pretty good.

Yep, and he also says he has someone else drive him around sort of like a chauffer you might say. To me, that is not freedom if I must depend on someone else.

My friend, Bobby Dearman, has never had a DL and will not get one. Last time he got pulled over by a state cop, the cop ran his ID (A state issued NON Drivers License, can you beat that? It's what they officially call the state issued ID card here.) and came back and said to him, "So you're Bobby Dearman. Well, I thought I had me a drunk driver from California (CA tags on the van). I don't have time to mess with you today so slow down and have a nice day." That was it, and he drove away. True story, too, there's a witness who was riding with him.

That's what I said about Bobby's state ID card.

The way we do it is (and all states have similar laws, they all must conform to the U.S. Constitution) we demand to be taken before the magistrate (municipal judge is what MO statute says, but it can be a Justice of the Peace or other judicial officer acting in that capacity as they have different titles in the several states).

We keep it in the common law at that point. If they deny you your immediate hearing which is your right under their code (they are skipping step one and then you show up in court in front of a real judge). You must claim your right to this hearing on the spot and DO NOT sign the ticket.

They can't get a warrant so they have to cut you loose. We also serve them a Petition for a Writ of Habeas Corpus and demand a copy of a warrant. Under MO state law they have to serve you one within 6 hours after you demand it or the person you served is liable for a $500 misdemeanor penalty forfeit "to the agrieved party."

When you get pulled over you have to hit them with the statute and claim your immediate hearing. The way the law reads here, they have to take you in or cut you loose. They can issue you traffic tickets or take you in, but they can't do both. So when they take you to jail and you don't get a hearing they have screwed up big time.

I have a case right now that is just like this. I invoked my rights under the code and the cop ignored me, weasel that he is. Then he took me in and wrote me tickets. I did not sign them and did not bond out. I served a Habeas and demanded a warrant which they failed to produce. So I have a huge federal case on them at some point here.

If and when they bring you up for a hearing on the Habeas, you demand a valid complaint and a warrant with attached affidavit. They can't get one. We keep itin the common law by not consenting to their adminstrative law jurisdiction which is what the cop operates under. He can't be a complaining witness unless you agree to it, and we don't, ever, even though it may not look like that at all times. And we will make a point of stressing it.

The asshole judge issued an FTA warrant on the tickets. We don't go to court since I was released without bond or obligation (no signature on tickets) to appear. He gets added to the suit soon after he fails toissue a Writ of Error and withdraw the bogus warrant. This is an impeachable offense under state law, threatening to (or actually doing it) incarcerate someone without just cause. They lost persona and subject matter jurisdiction when I was released without bond. They can't get it back without a warrant and they can NEVER get one.

I filed in state court just to cost them some money. Yeah, mess with me and I'll give you a black eye. POW! It had to cost them at least $2,500 to get the shysters to answer. Time to break the bank so they will not have those funds available to mess with other unfortunates.

Have to get back on this paperwork right now so I can get it in the mail tomorrow.

"Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Lord Keynes

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-28   0:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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