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Title: AMERICA: From Freedom to Fascism - Primary Objectives
Source: freedomtofascism
URL Source: http://www.freedomtofascism.com/
Published: Jul 26, 2006
Author: Aaron Russo
Post Date: 2006-07-26 18:25:28 by Uncle Bill
Keywords: None
Views: 1106
Comments: 81

Primary Objectives

• Stop the polarization of America

• Stop the domination of the Democratic and Republican parties over our political system

• Shut down the Federal Reserve system

• Return America's gold to Fort Knox and have it audited

• Have Congress and the IRS, in a public forum, reveal the law that requires Americans to pay a direct, unapportioned tax on their labor.

• Make computerized voting illegal in all 50 states

• Keep the internet free and out of the control of large institutions

• Rescind the law called the Real ID Act so Americans never have to carry a National ID Card

• Make it illegal to implant RFID chips in human beings

• Educate juries to the fact that they have the right to determine the law as well as the facts of a case

• Educate juries to the fact that they are not obligated to follow the instructions of a judge

• Stop Globalization because it is the path to a one world government

• Protect our borders

• Restore the environment

• Put an end to the Patriot Act

• Sign up millions of Americans so we can accomplish our objectives

"The scariest damn film you'll see this year. It will leave you Staggering out of the theatre, slack-jawed, and trembling…"
Todd David Schwartz, CBS News

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#24. To: noone222 (#16)

Avoid the consumption tax by not buying shit. A consumption tax is what the framers had in mind, not a progressive income tax. There's always barter and private purchases ... we need real money, and not plastic credit that can be tracked.

Well, I sure as hell can't wait to take a giant step backward in my stardard of living so the corporate CEO's can skate away with a free ride. All you need to know is that the corporations already own the government and they are behind the comsuption tax. Not exactly rocket science to figure out that the serfs are about to get the biggest tax increase in history. Maybe we can talk as soon as I figure out how to barter away my utility, insurance and gasoline bills.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-26   21:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Arete (#15)

well, look at the many notables who appear in his film. i think that says a lot. i think the focus is educating the public more on the federal reserve than on IRS. Russo's contention is that if we are able to rid ourselves of this criminal cabal that we can then take back our country. that's the starting point. i hope you have the opportunity to see it.

incidentally, i heard Russo on Jack Blood's show yesterday. IF he's a fraud, he's the best i've ever heard.

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin

christine  posted on  2006-07-26   21:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Arete (#24)

Maybe we can talk as soon as I figure out how to barter away my utility, insurance and gasoline bills.

Maybe we can talk about getting rid of this government and their corporations ... both of those are frauds. People have always been able to trade with each other even in the complete absence of banks, governments or corporations. The condition we find ourselves in today may be convenient, but it doesn't necessarily make one happy.

[The "best" things in life are "free" !]

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams ... and I concur !

noone222  posted on  2006-07-26   21:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Arete, IndieTX, bluegrass (#15)

Hmmm....hints of a hidden agenda? An agent-provocateur? Who knows.

I listened to an interview with Russo and my first intellectual, emotional and gut reaction was that Russo is a fraud and his movie is a Trojan horse being put out right now to lay the ground work for the coming launch of the consumption tax campaign being planned by the real fascists.

hmmmm....

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-26   21:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#25)

IF he's a fraud, he's the best i've ever heard

Oh, I imagine that Russo is going to suck in a lot of people with his "take back America" flag waving talk. I freely admit that he is good at what he does - best that corporate interests can buy and they can buy some real talented liars and Judas Goats to swing public opinion. It isn't going to be easy convincing people to get behind committing financial suicide but sounding like he has our interests at heart will at least get Russo a chance to have people hear out the propaganda message. Surely you must notice that he "tactfully" avoids any solution to eliminating "labor taxation". To do so would tip his hand and expose his real agenda. This story is just developing although the Fair Tax operatives have been fairly active on sites like FR for about a year now.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-26   21:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: noone222 (#26)

Maybe we can talk about getting rid of this government and their corporations ... both of those are frauds. People have always been able to trade with each other even in the complete absence of banks, governments or corporations. The condition we find ourselves in today may be convenient, but it doesn't necessarily make one happy.

I agree with you but that doesn't work for the vast majority of urbanized people today. I still have to go to the doctor and I know that guy isn't about to accept a couple of chickens and an apple pie for his services. Short of an armed rebellion, I don't see how we will ever get back control of our own government.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-26   21:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Arete (#29)

I still have to go to the doctor and I know that guy isn't about to accept a couple of chickens and an apple pie for his services.

The day isn't far away that your doctor will be delighted to take a chicken or an apple pie for his services, prefering that to worthless fiat currency.

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams ... and I concur !

noone222  posted on  2006-07-26   21:57:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin (#27)

hmmmm....

Be vigilent. You will soon be able to connect the dots and see where this is going. With the economy now dependent of increasing government spending and inflation taking hold in an over-leveraged financial system, the government is running out of time. If the central planners raise interst rates to halt inflation, the economy goes into the toilet. If they stop spending (never going to happen), the economy goes into the toilet. They are in a corner. Only way out for them is to keep spending and tax the hell out of the increases in inflation.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-26   22:01:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: noone222 (#26)

People have always been able to trade with each other even in the complete absence of banks, governments or corporations.

Granted, but we're not talking about the absence of government, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal. This "fair" tax bullshit will be an Orwellian wet dream. Within a couple of years, barter will be taxed as well because just like cash, untaxed barter will be demonized as the tool of tax cheats and terrorists. You might ask who would turn you in? Neighbors, co-workers, maybe even your in-laws. Anyone with an axe to grind or who just can't mind their own business.

If they want a replacement tax system, start taxing imports across the board as they are unloaded from the cargo ships.

"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."

orangedog  posted on  2006-07-26   22:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lady X (#14)

I have a problem with this one.

It implies that the gold is not in Fort Knox to begin with and how does he know it's not there?

Why wouldn't he just say 'audit the gold in Fort Knox'?


Show me da gold and show me da audit. Should be easy. And we'll all just go back and mow our lawns. I'll bet it ain't ever gonna happen.

"I think it can hardly be disputed that the statesman and financiers of Europe are ready to take almost any means to reacquire rapidly the Gold stock which Europe lost to America as the result of World War I."
Rep. Louis T. McFadden (D.-PA)

Louise Boyer, the long-time secretary to Nelson Rockefeller, leaked the story that the Rockefellers were manipulating the Fed in order to sell off our U.S. gold from Fort Knox to European speculators. Shortly after the story broke, she mysteriously fell to her death from the 10th floor of her apartment building. The gold story was squelched. To this day no one knows how much gold is left in Fort Knox since it hasn’t been audited since the 50's. This story was published in a New York periodical by Tom Valentine on July 1, 1974. The title of the article was "MYSTERIOUS DEATH SILENCES KEY INFORMANT IN MISSING FORT KNOX GOLD CONTROVERSY." 3 days later, on July 4, 1974, there was an article in the New York Times concerning the death of Louise Auchincloss Boyer.

"Allegations of missing gold from our Fort Knox vaults are being widely discussed in European financial circles. But what is puzzling is that the administration is not hastening to demonstrate conclusively that there is no cause for concern over our gold treasure - if indeed it is in a position to do so."
Edith Roosevelt - Granddaughter of President Teddy Roosevelt - March, 1975 - The New Hampshire Sunday News.

Firestone, LTD., a Swiss corporation, set up a string of dummy corporations to purchase Fort Knox Gold and keep it in Switzerland, never to hit the U.S. shores. An article titled "U.S. Charges Firestone In Illegal Gold Trading" in the New York Times and an article titled "Firestone Trial Opens On Gold Chances Today" in the Richmond Times Dispatch on October 14, 1980 gives a great deal of information. Some were prosecuted, found guilty and sent to prison.

Ronald Reagan's "GOLD COMMISSION" in 1982 basically concluded that the U.S. Treasury owned no gold at all, that all the gold at Fort Knox was now owned by the Federal Reserve. Sorry Americans. Trillions for the bankers. Debt for the people.

"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance."
James Madison

Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
Woodrow Wilson

"If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing of money should be taken from the banks and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs."
Thomas Jefferson

"When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A superstate controlled by international bankers and industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made to conceal its powers but the truth is - the Fed has usurped the government."
Louis B. McFadden, Chairman, House Banking Committee, 1933

"Let me issue and control a nation's money, and I care not who writes its laws"
Meyer Rothschild

"When business in the United States underwent a mild contraction in 1927,the Federal Reserve created more paper reserves in the hope of forestalling any possible bank reserve shortage. ... More disastrous, however, was the Federal Reserve's attempt to assist Great Britain... The excess credit spilled over into the stock market - triggering a fantastic speculative boom... As a result, the American economy collapsed."
Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve Corporation Chairman


Source

J. Luben: Another question that has come up frequently with Kitco, and I’ll ask Congressman Paul this one. Do you think it is appropriate for the American people to ask for an audit of Fort Knox for full disclosure of how much gold is really in there?

Rep. Ron Paul: Yes, and going back to the Gold Commission, that subject came up then and I recommended that we do that, and that was again defeated 15 to 2. They said they have an ongoing audit. They audit 5% every year, so eventually they audit the whole thing. They also said that there once was an audit in the 1970’s but those who participated in the audit considered it inadequate. I think it would be a good idea because you hear stories and of course those who believe in conspiracies drum up a lot of stories. It seems like someone like myself on the Banking Committee, on the Domestic Monetary Subcommittee, having served on the Gold Commission, that you think that I would have the ability to get this done. But I can’t even figure out what The Fed is doing because their meetings are totally secret and they don’t reveal their policies. It’s a closed system in the monetary sense, and I think that is tragic.

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Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-07-26   22:30:26 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lady X (#14)

You might find this interesting:

9/11:Missing Gold - A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared

Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation

Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-07-26   22:50:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Uncle Bill (#33)

Louise Boyer, the long-time secretary to Nelson Rockefeller, leaked the story that the Rockefellers were manipulating the Fed in order to sell off our U.S. gold from Fort Knox to European speculators. Shortly after the story broke, she mysteriously fell to her death from the 10th floor of her apartment building. The gold story was squelched. To this day no one knows how much gold is left in Fort Knox since it hasn’t been audited since the 50's. This story was published in a New York periodical by Tom Valentine on July 1, 1974. The title of the article was "MYSTERIOUS DEATH SILENCES KEY INFORMANT IN MISSING FORT KNOX GOLD CONTROVERSY." 3 days later, on July 4, 1974, there was an article in the New York Times concerning the death of Louise Auchincloss Boyer.

Interesting old news item, the part about an informant dying mysteriously sounds new.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-27   2:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: orangedog (#32)

Granted, but we're not talking about the absence of government, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal.

I should be the one that's upset about a change since I opted out of the existing system almost 20 years ago. Where there's a will there's a way.

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams ... and I concur !

noone222  posted on  2006-07-27   6:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: who knows what evil (#4)

what two words is Baldwin talking about?

Is the GD word in the movie? Just a guess since I haven't seen it.

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-27   6:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Arete (#24)

Well, I sure as hell can't wait to take a giant step backward in my stardard of living so the corporate CEO's can skate away with a free ride.

Maybe we can talk as soon as I figure out how to barter away my utility, insurance and gasoline bills.

There's the real problem. We can all agree that things are sour to say the least, but when it comes down to some personal sacrifice to effect a change - then we're a lot less willing to do it.

Do you live in an apartment, or do you have a house with a backyard? If it's the latter you might consider putting in a wind generator. I'm a welder by trade, and have come up with a design for one. I will be putting together a prototype in the near future, and work out the bugs. It may not be the most elaborate looking generator made, but if it works who cares. Beats paying an electric bill. Best part is I LOVE to barter... Of course, this wouldn't solve your insurance or gas bills, but it's a start.

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-27   7:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: orangedog (#32)

Granted, but we're not talking about the absence of government, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal.

I thought it interesting that you said we're not talking about the absence of governments, corporations and banks ... "They're all legal fictions" ... and our society has been trained to think of them as "reality" !

We simply need to change our way of thinking. We need to think outside of the fiction box.

I wouldn't say that it's easier because it's not. It is somewhat satisfying to know that you're not supplying funding for the mass murder of children around the world, usually desribed as collateral damage to keep us from another "reality" ... that we are brutal murderers for the sake of our own personal convenience.

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

Samuel Adams ... and I concur !

noone222  posted on  2006-07-27   7:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: innieway (#38)

There's the real problem. We can all agree that things are sour to say the least, but when it comes down to some personal sacrifice to effect a change - then we're a lot less willing to do it.

Like it or not, there is almost no doubt in my mind that the standard of living for the average American is going to drop. The only debate is who will have to sacrifice the most. The rich and the corporatists who own the politicians are trying to make sure the serfs are the ones doing the sacrificing. No matter how they dress it up and how much lipstick they put on this pig, that is what it all boils down to.

I gave up the money pit a few years ago and now live in an apartment. Rents have gone up every year but it beats the heck out of the increasing costs of owning a home, IMO.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   8:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: noone222 (#39)

We need to think outside of the fiction box.

Today's fiction often turns into tomorrow's reality. Ponder this - are we moving toward a North American Union merger with Canada and Mexico? Is that what this is really all about? - merging currency and tax systems and forming a common government that is even less accountable to the public?

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   8:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Arete (#40)

Like it or not, there is almost

Almost?

...no doubt in my mind that the standard of living for the average American is going to drop.

Agreed. The solution? Don't be average.

The rich and the corporatists who own the politicians are trying to make sure the serfs are the ones doing the sacrificing. No matter how they dress it up and how much lipstick they put on this pig, that is what it all boils down to.

Exactly. The middle-class (or what's left of it) will cease to exist. You either belong in the very small percentage of upper eschelon, or you will be in the category of poverty to the hilt.

The only defense is to not play the game. In Hale vs. Henkle, there was a clear distinction set forth between Common Law and civil law. Under civil law they are allowed to regulate and tax at will (under the commerce clause) regulatable and controllable endeavors such as Social Security, insurance, Federal Reserve Notes, mortages, stocks and bonds, bank and corporate credit cards, public business licenses, permits, interest bearing accounts, checks, marriage licenses, and even citizenship. The opposite of this is the Common Law. There are only 2 forms of law on earth, Common and civil. You have to make a choice which you practice, and Hale vs. Henkle verified that you DO have that choice. Common Law has in its roots the Law of God as given to Moses. Civil law is the Roman civil law which comes from Rome. Common Law is the direct antithesis to civil law - it deals in private property.

Civil law deals with income, Common Law deals with increase. Civil law deals in profits, Common Law deals in property.

Property is an unalienable right, and we are not taxed on property. For examlple people incorrectly think you pay property tax on your home. But that is incorrect. You pay a tax on the VALUE of your home, not the home itself.

The opposite of a mortage (civil law) is land held in fee simple (Common Law). The opposite of Social Securtity (civil law) is labor (Common Law). The oppposite of Federal Reserve Notes is substance. The opposite of government granted privileges are inalienable rights. The opposite of equitable interest is property and property rights. The opposite of bank and corporate credit cards is gold and silver. Stocks and negotiable instruments are the opposite of private ownership. Permits are the opposite to private rights. Checks are the oppostite of warehouse receipts. Insurance is the opposite of personal responsibility (strict liability). A marriage license is the opposite to patriarchal family.

People talk about private property and privte rights, but they don't practice that. They practice the things mentioned above in the first category of opposites. They SHOULD be practicing the things listed in the second category. That's what I meant by the solution being "don't be average". It does require a different way of thinking, but in the long run it's worth it.

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-27   9:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Uncle Bill (#33)

Thank you, Uncle Bill.

I think we need more rope..

Lady X  posted on  2006-07-27   9:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Arete (#28)

we shall see...we'll see how much play it gets by mainstream and what is the ripple tsunami effect.

"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin

christine  posted on  2006-07-27   10:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: orangedog (#32)

overnment, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal. This "fair" tax bullshit will be an Orwellian wet dream. Within a couple of years, barter will be taxed as well because just like cash, untaxed barter will be demonized as the tool of tax cheats and terrorists. You might ask who would turn you in? Neighbors, co-workers, maybe even your in-laws. Anyone with an axe to grind or who just can't mind their own business.

If they want a replacement tax system, start taxing imports across the board as they are unloaded from the cargo ships.

Very conceivable assessment! Combined with Fuhrer's coming tax to travel on roads, national ID...it will be virtually impossible to go "underground."


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln

IndieTX  posted on  2006-07-27   10:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: IndieTX (#45)

This "fair" tax bullshit will be an Orwellian wet dream.

If you join the system, the government is going to send you a monthly "prebate" check. 99.8% of the public will go for the "free money". "We're going going to take $100 from you and give you back $10. If you don't want the $10, we're still going to take the $100."

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   11:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: noone222 (#39)

I thought it interesting that you said we're not talking about the absence of governments, corporations and banks ... "They're all legal fictions" ... and our society has been trained to think of them as "reality" !

The problem is that there are a whole lot of people with badges, sub-machine guns and body armor who are more than willing to kick in doors at 4:00 AM to enforce the will of those "legal fictions." And probably 90% of the 300 million in this country are all for it.

We simply need to change our way of thinking. We need to think outside of the fiction box.

No, I think that "we" have the thinking right, it's the millions of "them" that need work. We're talking about the character of a nation. Maybe the coming bad times will help rebuild some of the good character it's lost over the past 7 or 8 decades.

"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."

orangedog  posted on  2006-07-27   16:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Arete (#46)

If you join the system, the government is going to send you a monthly "prebate" check.

If you want to have some fun with some of the "fair" tax idiots who are beer-bonging that koolaid, call it a welfare check.

"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."

orangedog  posted on  2006-07-27   17:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: orangedog (#48)

the "fair" tax idiots who are beer-bonging that koolaid

"If Christ were alive today, he would vote for the fair tax." Hey, I can't deal with that kind of lunacy. I don't mind one bit that those crazies want to throw themselves off the cliff - the world would definitely be a better place without them. What I object to is they get all pissed at you if you don't want to join them.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   17:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: christine, Arete, robin, Lady X (#25)

look at the many notables who appear in his film.

Sone of those notables have been extensively attacked by the ADL but Russo is getting a pass from them.

It stinks to high heaven. Russo is a front.

"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-07-27   17:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Arete (#49)

I'm being audited for 2004. My own damned fault, really. That was the year I lost money in the miners and finally cashed out that fall. Ended up with less money than I started with so stupid me thought there wasn't any point in including anything about them. Little did I know that the brokerages report all of your sales but nothing about the purchases so they wanted to know what my "cost basis" was. So I had to dig out the records and send them the year end statement showing what I paid for them.

Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but it's nothing compared to what the "fair screwing" idiots want to foist on us.

"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."

orangedog  posted on  2006-07-27   17:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: bluegrass (#50)

It stinks to high heaven. Russo is a front.

That is the impression that he gave me. I don't trust him.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   18:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: orangedog (#51)

Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but it's nothing compared to what the "fair screwing" idiots want to foist on us.

Fair Tax

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   18:16:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Arete (#53)

There won't be any lube or even the common courtesy of a reach-around

"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."

orangedog  posted on  2006-07-27   18:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: innieway (#42)

People talk about private property and privte rights, but they don't practice that. They practice the things mentioned above in the first category of opposites. They SHOULD be practicing the things listed in the second category. That's what I meant by the solution being "don't be average". It does require a different way of thinking, but in the long run it's worth it.

Obviously, a George Gordon student.

Good post, IW.

Thank you.


War - it's for the children

Lod  posted on  2006-07-27   18:22:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Arete (#28)

I have seen this movie and it is superb. I believe it to be quite accurate and truthful -- or should I say that it closely comports with my independent research regarding the relevant matters. So, if Russo's message is inaccurate, then my research is correspondingly inaccurate.

Accordingly, I believe that as long as the TRUTH is being delivered, I care not what the messenger's motivation or agenda is. It is truth that I am after and it is truth that I would similarly like to impart upon my fellow man.

If we focus on the message, then we don't really need to speculate as to hidden motives and agendas. If a new and more onerous or diabolical type of tax is proposed to take the place of the IRS Income Tax, then so be it. It is up to us to fight that battle and refuse to submit to it.

This movie provides strong evidence that the government and IRS have been lying to us since 1913. That message in and of itself is good enough for me.

For anyone who has not seen this documentary-type film, I highly recommend it. I have donated to Russo on 2 occasions. Also, I purchased 40 tickets to the opening of the film here in Austin, Texas, on Friday 7/28 -- tickets that I am passing out to my friends and fellow truth-seekers. It should be a lot of fun tomorrow night. Can't wait.

Freedom William  posted on  2006-07-27   18:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Freedom William (#56)

So, if Russo's message is inaccurate, then my research is correspondingly inaccurate.

Doesn't have a thing to do with accuracy. Has Russo discovered any new information that hasn't been easily available and discussed ad nauseam over the years? Has Russo uncovered new information that will somehow invalidate the hundreds of court challenges to the tax laws brought by countless individuals and groups over the years?

I stand by my original statement. Russo is a fraud. He's working a hidden agenda and I seriously doubt that it has anything to do with stopping NWO fascism.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   19:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Arete (#57)

Has Russo discovered any new information.......

Nope....But he is about to reach a brand new audience.

Freedom William  posted on  2006-07-27   19:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Arete (#57)

I'll support the TRUTH no matter how it shakes out or who shakes it out.

Freedom William  posted on  2006-07-27   19:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Freedom William (#58)

Has Russo discovered any new information.......

Nope....

So Russo is repackaging, hyping and wrapping a flag around old info. How interesting. I wonder what is motivating him.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   20:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Arete (#29)

I still have to go to the doctor and I know that guy isn't about to accept a couple of chickens and an apple pie for his services.

1) Are you sure? (And if he won't accept it now, how about after TSHTF.)

2) Would he accept a 10 oz. silver bar?

3) More and more doctors are going the cash-only route -- no Medicaid, no Medicare, no insurance companies, no huge paperwork hassles. You might look for one.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2006-07-27   20:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Arete (#60)

I wonder what is motivating him.

We may never know. However, everyone is free to look at his message and decide for himself or herself what it means. So even if Russo can conceal his motivation or agenda, he can't hide the message.

Freedom William  posted on  2006-07-27   20:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Freedom William (#62)

Be careful what you wish for. That light at the end of the tunnel may not be what you think it is. Start thinking - North American Union. The FED and the IRS will become irrelevant in a few years. Getting people to support that - well, that's Russo's job, not mine.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-07-27   20:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Arete (#63)

My wish is always for the truth to emerge.

Freedom William  posted on  2006-07-27   20:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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