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Title: AMERICA: From Freedom to Fascism - Primary Objectives
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Published: Jul 26, 2006
Author: Aaron Russo
Post Date: 2006-07-26 18:25:28 by Uncle Bill
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Primary Objectives • Stop the polarization of America • Stop the domination of the Democratic and Republican parties over our political system • Shut down the Federal Reserve system • Return America's gold to Fort Knox and have it audited • Have Congress and the IRS, in a public forum, reveal the law that requires Americans to pay a direct, unapportioned tax on their labor. • Make computerized voting illegal in all 50 states • Keep the internet free and out of the control of large institutions • Rescind the law called the Real ID Act so Americans never have to carry a National ID Card • Make it illegal to implant RFID chips in human beings • Educate juries to the fact that they have the right to determine the law as well as the facts of a case • Educate juries to the fact that they are not obligated to follow the instructions of a judge • Stop Globalization because it is the path to a one world government • Protect our borders • Restore the environment • Put an end to the Patriot Act • Sign up millions of Americans so we can accomplish our objectives "The scariest damn film you'll see this year. It will leave you Staggering out of the theatre, slack-jawed, and trembling…" 
Todd David Schwartz, CBS News 
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My Review Of Aaron Russo's Film, "America: Freedom To Fascism" By Chuck Baldwin July 21, 2006 (This column is archived at: http://www. chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2006/cbarchive_20060721.html Several readers have written me asking that I promote Aaron Russo's new film. Well, until recently I had not seen it, and certainly I could not promote (or criticize) a film until I had an opportunity to view it. That opportunity presented itself a few days ago in the form of a private screening. Most readers probably already know that Aaron Russo has enjoyed a distinguished career as a film producer winning Grammy, Tony, and Emmy awards. His films have starred people such as Bette Midler, Lionel Hampton, Eddie Murphy, Nick Nolte, Morgan Freeman, and many others. To date, Russo's films have been nominated for six Academy Awards, as well as seven Golden Globes. His films have won three Golden Globes and the Image Award. His latest film is a documentary entitled, "America: Freedom To Fascism." The film begins with a critical review of two monumental events that happened in 1913: the adoption of the 16th Amendment, which has been interpreted to authorize the forced taxation of individual income and the creation of the Federal Reserve, which turned the governance of America's financial system over to a centralized private banking interest. The film intelligently and convincingly makes a strong case for the opinion that both the 16th Amendment and the Federal Reserve System are flatly unconstitutional and may not even have been legally adopted. Russo's film then factually demonstrates how modern presidents (especially Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II) have led America out of the light of liberty and into a dark alley of fascism (hence the film's title). The film provides many examples to prove the reality of that statement. Many very credible personalities are interviewed in the film including Texas Congressman Ron Paul, constitutional scholar Edwin Vieira, Jr. Esq., former IRS special agents and investigators, and several others. Russo also interviewed former IRS commissioners, and reviewed copious court cases, including Supreme Court cases. Predictably (for such a documentary), notable tax resistors such as Bob Schulz and Franklin Sanders were also interviewed. And, frankly, their arguments are compelling! The overall arguments and conclusions of the film are more than convincing! It will be very difficult for anyone objectively viewing this film to attack the facts and evidence presented. And for that reason, I'm confident that both the political and financial interests of this country will hope that no one watches it! Russo also rightly connects the dots between developments such as the USA Patriot Act, the so-called "free trade" deals such as NAFTA and CAFTA, and the business and political alliance promoting illegal immigration with the overall push toward globalism and fascism. Congressman Paul makes a compelling argument for the proposition that America is already in the process of becoming a police state. Russo also includes some disturbing police video which helps augment Paul's point. Russo, in thorough investigative form, interviews many people ranging from everyday folks on the street to high level government officials. He also gave people from both sides of the tax debate an opportunity to present their case. There were only a couple of disappointments with the film. I noticed two words that will be offensive to Christian audiences. Plus, had Russo added the cross-examination by the inquisitor-esque Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor of Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, churches and pastors would more quickly be able to identify with this film. And if any group of people needs to see and take to heart Russo's film, it is today's pastors and churches! My other disappointment was with the way the film ends. I won't spoil the ending for those who have yet to see it, but, personally, I felt Russo could have done a better job with the film's conclusion. The film runs for about one hour and forty five minutes. It is quite refreshing to see a first-rate documentary film which reveals the truth about the very real efforts of elites from both major parties and from international bankers to turn America into a fascist, globalist state, which is exactly what they are doing! I applaud the film and heartily recommend it! I further encourage Mr. Russo to produce a sequel and to seek assistance from likeminded Christians who can help him bring in those elements that will help his message connect with pastors and churches. Russo's film is debuting in several major cities across the country over the next few weeks. If you have an opportunity to see it, by all means do so! If you are a real American, the film will anger you (as it was designed to do) and also challenge you to not sit passively by as international elitists steal our country out from under us. Here is the link to Russo's promo for the film: Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
My other disappointment was with the way the film ends. I won't spoil the ending for those who have yet to see it, but, personally, I felt Russo could have done a better job with the film's conclusion. Hmmm....hints of a hidden agenda? An agent-provocateur? Who knows..I'll have to see it and judge for myself, but this is quite a negative since most in the patriot movement are Christian believers..a valid review would have included "the two words" offensive to Christians. I would think a valid patriot movie about Freedom would have been totally non-religious and critical of none, making me wonder if this guy has some kind of ax to grind....??? Anybody seen it?
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." Christine, you have seen this movie...what two words is Baldwin talking about? I saw it, and I don't remember being offended by 'two words'. Any Christian that throws the baby out with the bathwater "because they were offended" is an idiot.
The overall arguments and conclusions of the film are more than convincing! It will be very difficult for anyone objectively viewing this film to attack the facts and evidence presented. And for that reason, I'm confident that both the political and financial interests of this country will hope that no one watches it! BTTT! We're going Friday night to see it for the second time. We saw it a few months ago when Russo did his introductory tour. We're so fortunate to be one of the first cities to get it in a real theater! It will do well here. It's outstanding.
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin
heck if i know what he's talking about. why be coy? just say what they were.
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin
Let us know what the 'two words' are. I plan on seeing it AGAIN if it turns up in East Tennessee. (where I believe it would do quite well.)
i will (if i can figure 'em out)
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin
No kidding...Chuck is one of those Christians who believes that he will spend an eternity in Hell if he says a "bad" word.
"Any Christian that throws the baby out with the bathwater "because they were offended" is an idiot." I agree. I'm gearing up to spend a lot of money to spread the word about this movie because Americans NEED TO SEE IT!!!! And I don't care what Eustace Mullins says or anyone else. This is a must see! And I'm excited about it. Hoo-yah!
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Not sure about the Baldwin 'Christians', but I heard plenty of words that offended me...'federal', 'revenue', 'reserve', 'service', 'internal', 'congress'...I'm sure there were others. :-)
We're going Friday night to see it for the second time. We saw it a few months ago when Russo did his introductory tour. We're so fortunate to be one of the first cities to get it in a real theater! It will do well here. It's outstanding." Excellent!! The people that run the FED love it that we spend a huge amount of time and resources beating our drums about Conservative vs. liberal, Republican vs. Democrat, because they don't give a rat's ass. Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
We may not ever be able to prove it, but this movie is: Scaring the crap out of the international banking cabal elite!
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I have a problem with this one. It implies that the gold is not in Fort Knox to begin with and how does he know it's not there? Why wouldn't he just say 'audit the gold in Fort Knox'?
I listened to an interview with Russo and my first intellectual, emotional and gut reaction was that Russo is a fraud and his movie is a Trojan horse being put out right now to lay the ground work for the coming launch of the consumption tax campaign being planned by the real fascists. Russo's hidden agenda is to demonize the IRS. Like most well planned and scripted propaganda movements, he has very cleverly disguised his real motives by bundling it with a bunch of popular issues. One little step at a time to convince the public that they need to jump off the cliff to save themselves. Here's the interview - Notice how in the interview, Russo turns the discussion from being a good American, to a full out attack on the IRS and taxing "our labor". America: From Freedom to Fascism Richard W.
Avoid the consumption tax by not buying shit. A consumption tax is what the framers had in mind, not a progressive income tax. There's always barter and private purchases ... we need real money, and not plastic credit that can be tracked.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
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Great point - I have no clue as to what the "two words" may be...
Infernal Revenue Service.
This could be true of anyone, and it's definitely hard to place a lot of trust in "anyone" these days ... on the other hand, at some point we will be so isolated that we will be of no consequence. We have to unite to defeat this "beast" ... we simply make it extremely painful for a traitor to our cause once found out. The film will clarify the minds of some in doubt about the governmental frauds they have been living under ... some will even become obsessed with finding out the truth intent upon changing things. In the end, if the movie brings more people into a more educated condition it won't matter if Russo is or isn't a fraud.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
Baldwin is a zionist idiot ... I blocked his e-mails.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
I hope that you, and everyone else here, see the film, and then give us your take on it. Cheers.
Bump! Well, I sure as hell can't wait to take a giant step backward in my stardard of living so the corporate CEO's can skate away with a free ride. All you need to know is that the corporations already own the government and they are behind the comsuption tax. Not exactly rocket science to figure out that the serfs are about to get the biggest tax increase in history. Maybe we can talk as soon as I figure out how to barter away my utility, insurance and gasoline bills. Richard W.
well, look at the many notables who appear in his film. i think that says a lot. i think the focus is educating the public more on the federal reserve than on IRS. Russo's contention is that if we are able to rid ourselves of this criminal cabal that we can then take back our country. that's the starting point. i hope you have the opportunity to see it. incidentally, i heard Russo on Jack Blood's show yesterday. IF he's a fraud, he's the best i've ever heard.
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin
Maybe we can talk about getting rid of this government and their corporations ... both of those are frauds. People have always been able to trade with each other even in the complete absence of banks, governments or corporations. The condition we find ourselves in today may be convenient, but it doesn't necessarily make one happy. [The "best" things in life are "free" !]
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
I listened to an interview with Russo and my first intellectual, emotional and gut reaction was that Russo is a fraud and his movie is a Trojan horse being put out right now to lay the ground work for the coming launch of the consumption tax campaign being planned by the real fascists. hmmmm....
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Oh, I imagine that Russo is going to suck in a lot of people with his "take back America" flag waving talk. I freely admit that he is good at what he does - best that corporate interests can buy and they can buy some real talented liars and Judas Goats to swing public opinion. It isn't going to be easy convincing people to get behind committing financial suicide but sounding like he has our interests at heart will at least get Russo a chance to have people hear out the propaganda message. Surely you must notice that he "tactfully" avoids any solution to eliminating "labor taxation". To do so would tip his hand and expose his real agenda. This story is just developing although the Fair Tax operatives have been fairly active on sites like FR for about a year now. Richard W.
I agree with you but that doesn't work for the vast majority of urbanized people today. I still have to go to the doctor and I know that guy isn't about to accept a couple of chickens and an apple pie for his services. Short of an armed rebellion, I don't see how we will ever get back control of our own government. Richard W.
The day isn't far away that your doctor will be delighted to take a chicken or an apple pie for his services, prefering that to worthless fiat currency.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
Be vigilent. You will soon be able to connect the dots and see where this is going. With the economy now dependent of increasing government spending and inflation taking hold in an over-leveraged financial system, the government is running out of time. If the central planners raise interst rates to halt inflation, the economy goes into the toilet. If they stop spending (never going to happen), the economy goes into the toilet. They are in a corner. Only way out for them is to keep spending and tax the hell out of the increases in inflation. Richard W.
Granted, but we're not talking about the absence of government, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal. This "fair" tax bullshit will be an Orwellian wet dream. Within a couple of years, barter will be taxed as well because just like cash, untaxed barter will be demonized as the tool of tax cheats and terrorists. You might ask who would turn you in? Neighbors, co-workers, maybe even your in-laws. Anyone with an axe to grind or who just can't mind their own business. If they want a replacement tax system, start taxing imports across the board as they are unloaded from the cargo ships.
"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."
I have a problem with this one. It implies that the gold is not in Fort Knox to begin with and how does he know it's not there? Why wouldn't he just say 'audit the gold in Fort Knox'? Show me da gold and show me da audit. Should be easy. And we'll all just go back and mow our lawns. I'll bet it ain't ever gonna happen. "I think it can hardly be disputed that the statesman and financiers of Europe are ready to take almost any means to reacquire rapidly the Gold stock which Europe lost to America as the result of World War I." "Allegations of missing gold from our Fort Knox vaults are being widely discussed in European financial circles. But what is puzzling is that the administration is not hastening to demonstrate conclusively that there is no cause for concern over our gold treasure - if indeed it is in a position to do so." Firestone, LTD., a Swiss corporation, set up a string of dummy corporations to purchase Fort Knox Gold and keep it in Switzerland, never to hit the U.S. shores. An article titled "U.S. Charges Firestone In Illegal Gold Trading" in the New York Times and an article titled "Firestone Trial Opens On Gold Chances Today" in the Richmond Times Dispatch on October 14, 1980 gives a great deal of information. Some were prosecuted, found guilty and sent to prison. Ronald Reagan's "GOLD COMMISSION" in 1982 basically concluded that the U.S. Treasury owned no gold at all, that all the gold at Fort Knox was now owned by the Federal Reserve. Sorry Americans. Trillions for the bankers. Debt for the people. "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." "When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A superstate controlled by international bankers and industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made to conceal its powers but the truth is - the Fed has usurped the government." "Let me issue and control a nation's money, and I care not who writes its laws" "When business in the United States underwent a mild contraction in 1927,the Federal Reserve created more paper reserves in the hope of forestalling any possible bank reserve shortage. ... More disastrous, however, was the Federal Reserve's attempt to assist Great Britain... The excess credit spilled over into the stock market - triggering a fantastic speculative boom... As a result, the American economy collapsed." J. Luben: Another question that has come up frequently with Kitco, and I’ll ask Congressman Paul this one. Do you think it is appropriate for the American people to ask for an audit of Fort Knox for full disclosure of how much gold is really in there? Rep. Ron Paul: Yes, and going back to the Gold Commission, that subject came up then and I recommended that we do that, and that was again defeated 15 to 2. They said they have an ongoing audit. They audit 5% every year, so eventually they audit the whole thing. They also said that there once was an audit in the 1970’s but those who participated in the audit considered it inadequate. I think it would be a good idea because you hear stories and of course those who believe in conspiracies drum up a lot of stories. It seems like someone like myself on the Banking Committee, on the Domestic Monetary Subcommittee, having served on the Gold Commission, that you think that I would have the ability to get this done. But I can’t even figure out what The Fed is doing because their meetings are totally secret and they don’t reveal their policies. It’s a closed system in the monetary sense, and I think that is tragic.
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You might find this interesting: 9/11:Missing Gold - A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
Interesting old news item, the part about an informant dying mysteriously sounds new.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers I should be the one that's upset about a change since I opted out of the existing system almost 20 years ago. Where there's a will there's a way.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
Is the GD word in the movie? Just a guess since I haven't seen it.
"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....
Maybe we can talk as soon as I figure out how to barter away my utility, insurance and gasoline bills. There's the real problem. We can all agree that things are sour to say the least, but when it comes down to some personal sacrifice to effect a change - then we're a lot less willing to do it. Do you live in an apartment, or do you have a house with a backyard? If it's the latter you might consider putting in a wind generator. I'm a welder by trade, and have come up with a design for one. I will be putting together a prototype in the near future, and work out the bugs. It may not be the most elaborate looking generator made, but if it works who cares. Beats paying an electric bill. Best part is I LOVE to barter... Of course, this wouldn't solve your insurance or gas bills, but it's a start.
"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....
I thought it interesting that you said we're not talking about the absence of governments, corporations and banks ... "They're all legal fictions" ... and our society has been trained to think of them as "reality" ! We simply need to change our way of thinking. We need to think outside of the fiction box. I wouldn't say that it's easier because it's not. It is somewhat satisfying to know that you're not supplying funding for the mass murder of children around the world, usually desribed as collateral damage to keep us from another "reality" ... that we are brutal murderers for the sake of our own personal convenience.
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
Like it or not, there is almost no doubt in my mind that the standard of living for the average American is going to drop. The only debate is who will have to sacrifice the most. The rich and the corporatists who own the politicians are trying to make sure the serfs are the ones doing the sacrificing. No matter how they dress it up and how much lipstick they put on this pig, that is what it all boils down to. I gave up the money pit a few years ago and now live in an apartment. Rents have gone up every year but it beats the heck out of the increasing costs of owning a home, IMO. Richard W.
Today's fiction often turns into tomorrow's reality. Ponder this - are we moving toward a North American Union merger with Canada and Mexico? Is that what this is really all about? - merging currency and tax systems and forming a common government that is even less accountable to the public? Richard W.
Like it or not, there is almost Almost? ...no doubt in my mind that the standard of living for the average American is going to drop. Agreed. The solution? Don't be average. The rich and the corporatists who own the politicians are trying to make sure the serfs are the ones doing the sacrificing. No matter how they dress it up and how much lipstick they put on this pig, that is what it all boils down to. Exactly. The middle-class (or what's left of it) will cease to exist. You either belong in the very small percentage of upper eschelon, or you will be in the category of poverty to the hilt. The only defense is to not play the game. In Hale vs. Henkle, there was a clear distinction set forth between Common Law and civil law. Under civil law they are allowed to regulate and tax at will (under the commerce clause) regulatable and controllable endeavors such as Social Security, insurance, Federal Reserve Notes, mortages, stocks and bonds, bank and corporate credit cards, public business licenses, permits, interest bearing accounts, checks, marriage licenses, and even citizenship. The opposite of this is the Common Law. There are only 2 forms of law on earth, Common and civil. You have to make a choice which you practice, and Hale vs. Henkle verified that you DO have that choice. Common Law has in its roots the Law of God as given to Moses. Civil law is the Roman civil law which comes from Rome. Common Law is the direct antithesis to civil law - it deals in private property. Civil law deals with income, Common Law deals with increase. Civil law deals in profits, Common Law deals in property. Property is an unalienable right, and we are not taxed on property. For examlple people incorrectly think you pay property tax on your home. But that is incorrect. You pay a tax on the VALUE of your home, not the home itself. The opposite of a mortage (civil law) is land held in fee simple (Common Law). The opposite of Social Securtity (civil law) is labor (Common Law). The oppposite of Federal Reserve Notes is substance. The opposite of government granted privileges are inalienable rights. The opposite of equitable interest is property and property rights. The opposite of bank and corporate credit cards is gold and silver. Stocks and negotiable instruments are the opposite of private ownership. Permits are the opposite to private rights. Checks are the oppostite of warehouse receipts. Insurance is the opposite of personal responsibility (strict liability). A marriage license is the opposite to patriarchal family. People talk about private property and privte rights, but they don't practice that. They practice the things mentioned above in the first category of opposites. They SHOULD be practicing the things listed in the second category. That's what I meant by the solution being "don't be average". It does require a different way of thinking, but in the long run it's worth it.
"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....
Thank you, Uncle Bill. I think we need more rope..
we shall see...we'll see how much play it gets by mainstream and what is the ripple "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin
If they want a replacement tax system, start taxing imports across the board as they are unloaded from the cargo ships. Very conceivable assessment! Combined with Fuhrer's coming tax to travel on roads, national ID...it will be virtually impossible to go "underground."
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." If you join the system, the government is going to send you a monthly "prebate" check. 99.8% of the public will go for the "free money". "We're going going to take $100 from you and give you back $10. If you don't want the $10, we're still going to take the $100." Richard W.
The problem is that there are a whole lot of people with badges, sub-machine guns and body armor who are more than willing to kick in doors at 4:00 AM to enforce the will of those "legal fictions." And probably 90% of the 300 million in this country are all for it. We simply need to change our way of thinking. We need to think outside of the fiction box. No, I think that "we" have the thinking right, it's the millions of "them" that need work. We're talking about the character of a nation. Maybe the coming bad times will help rebuild some of the good character it's lost over the past 7 or 8 decades.
"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."
If you want to have some fun with some of the "fair" tax idiots who are beer-bonging that koolaid, call it a welfare check.
"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."
"If Christ were alive today, he would vote for the fair tax." Hey, I can't deal with that kind of lunacy. I don't mind one bit that those crazies want to throw themselves off the cliff - the world would definitely be a better place without them. What I object to is they get all pissed at you if you don't want to join them. Richard W.
Sone of those notables have been extensively attacked by the ADL but Russo is getting a pass from them. It stinks to high heaven. Russo is a front.
"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."
I'm being audited for 2004. My own damned fault, really. That was the year I lost money in the miners and finally cashed out that fall. Ended up with less money than I started with so stupid me thought there wasn't any point in including anything about them. Little did I know that the brokerages report all of your sales but nothing about the purchases so they wanted to know what my "cost basis" was. So I had to dig out the records and send them the year end statement showing what I paid for them. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but it's nothing compared to what the "fair screwing" idiots want to foist on us.
"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."
That is the impression that he gave me. I don't trust him. Richard W.
Fair Tax Richard W.
There won't be any lube or even the common courtesy of a reach-around
"Life is a big shit sandwich and the more dough you have, the less shit you'll have to chew on."
Obviously, a George Gordon student. Good post, IW. Thank you.
I have seen this movie and it is superb. I believe it to be quite accurate and
truthful -- or should I say that it closely comports with my independent
research regarding the relevant matters. So, if Russo's message is inaccurate,
then my research is correspondingly inaccurate. Accordingly, I believe that
as long as the TRUTH is being delivered, I care not what the messenger's
motivation or agenda is. It is truth that I am after and it is truth that I
would similarly like to impart upon my fellow man. If we focus on the
message, then we don't really need to speculate as to hidden motives and
agendas. If a new and more onerous or diabolical type of tax is proposed to
take the place of the IRS Income Tax, then so be it. It is up to us to fight
that battle and refuse to submit to it. This movie provides strong evidence
that the government and IRS have been lying to us since 1913. That message in
and of itself is good enough for me. For anyone who has not seen this
documentary-type film, I highly recommend it. I have donated to Russo on 2
occasions. Also, I purchased 40 tickets to the opening of the film here in
Austin, Texas, on Friday 7/28 -- tickets that I am passing out to my friends
and fellow truth-seekers. It should be a lot of fun tomorrow night. Can't wait.
Doesn't have a thing to do with accuracy. Has Russo discovered any new information that hasn't been easily available and discussed ad nauseam over the years? Has Russo uncovered new information that will somehow invalidate the hundreds of court challenges to the tax laws brought by countless individuals and groups over the years? I stand by my original statement. Russo is a fraud. He's working a hidden agenda and I seriously doubt that it has anything to do with stopping NWO fascism. Richard W.
Nope....But he is about to reach a brand new audience.
I'll support the TRUTH no matter how it shakes out or who shakes it out.
Has Russo discovered any new information....... Nope.... So Russo is repackaging, hyping and wrapping a flag around old info. How interesting. I wonder what is motivating him. Richard W.
1) Are you sure? (And if he won't accept it now, how about after TSHTF.) 2) Would he accept a 10 oz. silver bar? 3) More and more doctors are going the cash-only route -- no Medicaid, no Medicare, no insurance companies, no huge paperwork hassles. You might look for one.
We may never know. However, everyone is free to look at his message and decide for himself or herself what it means. So even if Russo can conceal his motivation or agenda, he can't hide the message.
Be careful what you wish for. That light at the end of the tunnel may not be what you think it is. Start thinking - North American Union. The FED and the IRS will become irrelevant in a few years. Getting people to support that - well, that's Russo's job, not mine. Richard W.
My wish is always for the truth to emerge.
Interesting - I'd love to see the look on his face if I handed him 10 1oz rounds. LOL Richard W.
POLL SHOWS ANGER AT BUSH AND ADMINISTRATION - U.S. pessimism on increase And there's more pessimism: Among those who believe the nation is headed on the wrong track, more than 80 percent say it's part of a longer-term decline. "This is just a horrendous set of numbers," says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this survey with Republican Bill McInturff. The mood is "as dank and depressing as I have seen." And back to America: Freedom To Fascism: Freedom: "The government of a nation may be usurped by the forcible intrusion of an individual into the throne. But to conquer its will so as to rest the right on that, the only legitimate basis, requires long acquiescence and cessation of all opposition." To Fascism: "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
wow...80%.
"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." —Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin
Hell; I saw this country headed for the crapper nearly thirty years ago...part of the reason I didn't want to bring kids into the world.
It matters very much who the messenger is. Antonio : "Mark you this, Bassanio, -The Merchant of Venice, Act I, Scene 3
"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."
We agree on this ...
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds (smites) you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. Samuel Adams ... and I concur !
Hide the poison in the pie. Richard W.
Maybe the coming bad times will help rebuild some of the good character it's lost over the past 7 or 8 decades. We agree on this ... Wish that I could be optimistic, but when I look at the people in charge now, and realize that they are the very same nitwits, criminals and assorted sociopathic maniacs who are planning our future, I don't see a good outcome. Richard W.
Hell; I saw this country headed for the crapper nearly thirty years ago... I've been talking with politically knowledgeable baby boomers as of late and a lot of them put down late 1950s to early 1960s as America's peek. part of the reason I didn't want to bring kids into the world. Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking like this. Chances are I'll look into adoption if I ever want to have children.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
I've been talking with politically knowledgeable baby boomers as of late and a lot of them put down late 1950s to early 1960s as America's peek. Agreed...early 60's. Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking like this. You're not the only one...not by a long shot.
Hide the poisoner behind the "Truth".
"Don't re-elect anyone, not even your mama."
We saw Freedom to Fascism again last night. I really wish that you two would see it and then tell me if you still feel the same about Russo and his agenda. That's only fair, right? ;)
i have no idea what two words Baldwin is referring to which he found offensive. maybe we should email him and ask.
Please.
You might find this interesting: 9/11:Missing Gold - A King's Ransom in Precious Metals Seems to Have Disappeared "....An article in The Sierra Times suggests that gold was recovered from two trucks in a tunnel under 5 World Trade Center, giving rise to suspicions that the trucks were being used to remove the gold from the vaults before the South Tower fell. 4 However, this report may have been based on an erroneous reading of other reports that describe the removal of crushed vehicles from a tunnel under 5 WTC in order to gain access to the vaults under 4 WTC to remove their contents. 5 ...." http://911research.wtc 7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html "Cache of Gold Found at WTC Two truckloads retrieved through a tunnel in rubble By GREG GITTRICH, THOMAS ZAMBITO and LEO STANDORA Daily News Staff Writers URL Link to Complete Story Here Workers at Ground Zero unearthed last night a buried treasure of gold, hidden for weeks under the ruins of the World Trade Center. As a small army of federal agents with shotguns and automatic rifles stood guard, city cops and firefighters packed two Brink's armored trucks with the lode, sources said. This is not a shocker, as it was rumored that as much as $160 Billion in bullion was stored under the Trade Center. Let's read on. The sources said the gold was found in a delivery tunnel under 5 World Trade Center....... For the last couple of days, construction workers - directed by the feds - had been clearing a delivery tunnel that runs under the complex. So the feds apparently knew exactly where it was. We can assume someone told them (?) Officials finally got to the gold through that tunnel yesterday, after workers hauled out a 10-wheel truck, several crushed cars and mounds of debris....." http: //911research.wtc7.net/cache/wtc/evidence/sierratimes_gold.htm FYI: Caller tells of World Trade Center gold movement on morning of 9-11 From: "Thomas R. Ascher" > Date: November 11, 2004 10:17:18 AM GMT+07:00 > To: "AB" > Subject: Fw: Caller tells of World Trade Center gold movement on morning of 9-11 HMMMMMMMMMMM....... THIS SHOULD BE CALLED " FOLLOW THE MONEY." Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: Caller tells of World Trade Center gold movement on morning of 9-11 From: Stargate723@... (Mark Andrews) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 WAS THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK COMPLETELY EMPTIED OF GOLD IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK ON 9-11-01? On the morning of September 11, 2001, there were $167 billion dollars in gold bars in Federal Reserve vaults in the basement of the World Trade Center. Since the destruction of the twin towers, there has been much speculation as to what might have become of all of the gold. A female caller to the Bill Bochiers radio program on WLW, Cincinnati (11-06-04) told of a report from her friend who worked at the WTC. The friend said that on the morning of 9-11 she was on her way to her job at the World Trade Center, along the route she normally took. As she turned a corner at the base of the Center, she saw two large flat bed trucks parked at one of the entrances. One of the trucks had already been loaded and had its contents covered by a large tarp. The second truck was in the process of having its bed loaded with stacks of solid gold bars. Both sides of the street were lined by black uniformed troops with machine guns who kept an eye on the operation and on the surrounding area. The bewildered woman kept a distance from the activity and watched as the second truck was loaded, and its contents covered with a tarp. The two trucks were then driven away with the soldiers traveling along as escort. The woman was so stunned by what she had seen that she turned around and did not report to work that morning, which, as it turned out, most probably saved her life when the towers were attacked and destroyed only about an hour later. NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE? http://groups.y ahoo.com/group/911TruthAction/message/2882 Of course, until the witness comes forward publicly, this is all just hearsay, unfortunately.
A little fun with statistics...my headline..."Russo's Smash Documentary Outperforms 'Pirates of the Caribbean' in Opening Weekend". Am I full of it? Not at all...that is a true statement. According to the website 'Box Office Mojo'; Russo's film took in an AVERAGE of $6,120 per screen, whereas 'Pirates' only banked $5,374 per screen. The difference? 'Freedom to Fascism' on ten screens; 'Pirates' on 3,834 screens. Still...Russo's film kicked Pirate ass on a 'per screen' basis. Can I get a job with CNN now?
If it plays in my area, I will go see it and let you know. Richard W.
#2. To: Uncle Bill (#1)
Thanks for this review.
War - it's for the children
#3. To: Uncle Bill (#1)
There were only a couple of disappointments with the film. I noticed two words that will be offensive to Christian audiences. Plus, had Russo added the cross-examination by the inquisitor-esque Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor of Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, churches and pastors would more quickly be able to identify with this film. And if any group of people needs to see and take to heart Russo's film, it is today's pastors and churches!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
#4. To: IndieTX, christine (#3)
I noticed two words that will be offensive to Christian audiences.
#5. To: Uncle Bill (#1)
Many very credible personalities are interviewed in the film including Texas Congressman Ron Paul, constitutional scholar Edwin Vieira, Jr. Esq., former IRS special agents and investigators, and several others. Russo also interviewed former IRS commissioners, and reviewed copious court cases, including Supreme Court cases. Predictably (for such a documentary), notable tax resistors such as Bob Schulz and Franklin Sanders were also interviewed. And, frankly, their arguments are compelling!
#6. To: who knows what evil (#4)
two words?
#7. To: christine (#5)
#8. To: who knows what evil (#7)
#9. To: christine (#6)
heck if i know what he's talking about. why be coy? just say what they were.
#10. To: who knows what evil (#4)
#11. To: christine (#8)
#12. To: christine (#5)
#13. To: christine (#8)
#14. To: Uncle Bill, bluegrass (#0)
Return America's gold to Fort Knox and have it audited
#15. To: IndieTX (#3)
Hmmm....hints of a hidden agenda? An agent-provocateur? Who knows.
#16. To: Arete (#15)
his movie is a Trojan horse being put out right now to lay the ground work for the coming launch of the consumption tax campaign being planned by the real fascists.
#17. To: Uncle Bill (#0)
#18. To: who knows what evil (#11)
Not sure about the Baldwin 'Christians', but I heard plenty of words that offended me...'federal', 'revenue', 'reserve', 'service', 'internal', 'congress'...I'm sure there were others. :-)
War - it's for the children
#19. To: lodwick (#18)
Great point - I have no clue as to what the "two words" may be...
#20. To: Arete (#15)
I listened to an interview with Russo and my first intellectual, emotional and gut reaction was that Russo is a fraud
#21. To: who knows what evil (#4)
what two words is Baldwin talking about?
#22. To: Arete (#15)
War - it's for the children
#23. To: noone222 (#20)
In the end, if the movie brings more people into a more educated condition it won't matter if Russo is or isn't a fraud.
War - it's for the children
#24. To: noone222 (#16)
Avoid the consumption tax by not buying shit. A consumption tax is what the framers had in mind, not a progressive income tax. There's always barter and private purchases ... we need real money, and not plastic credit that can be tracked.
#25. To: Arete (#15)
#26. To: Arete (#24)
Maybe we can talk as soon as I figure out how to barter away my utility, insurance and gasoline bills.
#27. To: Arete, IndieTX, bluegrass (#15)
Hmmm....hints of a hidden agenda? An agent-provocateur? Who knows.
#28. To: christine (#25)
IF he's a fraud, he's the best i've ever heard
#29. To: noone222 (#26)
Maybe we can talk about getting rid of this government and their corporations ... both of those are frauds. People have always been able to trade with each other even in the complete absence of banks, governments or corporations. The condition we find ourselves in today may be convenient, but it doesn't necessarily make one happy.
#30. To: Arete (#29)
I still have to go to the doctor and I know that guy isn't about to accept a couple of chickens and an apple pie for his services.
#31. To: robin (#27)
hmmmm....
#32. To: noone222 (#26)
People have always been able to trade with each other even in the complete absence of banks, governments or corporations.
#33. To: Lady X (#14)
Rep. Louis T. McFadden (D.-PA) 
Louise Boyer, the long-time secretary to Nelson Rockefeller, leaked the story that the Rockefellers were manipulating the Fed in order to sell off our U.S. gold from Fort Knox to European speculators. Shortly after the story broke, she mysteriously fell to her death from the 10th floor of her apartment building. The gold story was squelched. To this day no one knows how much gold is left in Fort Knox since it hasn’t been audited since the 50's. This story was published in a New York periodical by Tom Valentine on July 1, 1974. The title of the article was "MYSTERIOUS DEATH SILENCES KEY INFORMANT IN MISSING FORT KNOX GOLD CONTROVERSY." 3 days later, on July 4, 1974, there was an article in the New York Times concerning the death of Louise Auchincloss Boyer.
Edith Roosevelt - Granddaughter of President Teddy Roosevelt - March, 1975 - The New Hampshire Sunday News.
James Madison
Woodrow Wilson 
"If the American People ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing of money should be taken from the banks and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs."
Thomas Jefferson
Louis B. McFadden, Chairman, House Banking Committee, 1933
Meyer Rothschild
Alan Greenspan, Federal Reserve Corporation Chairman
#34. To: Lady X (#14)
#35. To: Uncle Bill (#33)
Louise Boyer, the long-time secretary to Nelson Rockefeller, leaked the story that the Rockefellers were manipulating the Fed in order to sell off our U.S. gold from Fort Knox to European speculators. Shortly after the story broke, she mysteriously fell to her death from the 10th floor of her apartment building. The gold story was squelched. To this day no one knows how much gold is left in Fort Knox since it hasn’t been audited since the 50's. This story was published in a New York periodical by Tom Valentine on July 1, 1974. The title of the article was "MYSTERIOUS DEATH SILENCES KEY INFORMANT IN MISSING FORT KNOX GOLD CONTROVERSY." 3 days later, on July 4, 1974, there was an article in the New York Times concerning the death of Louise Auchincloss Boyer.
#36. To: orangedog (#32)
Granted, but we're not talking about the absence of government, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal.
#37. To: who knows what evil (#4)
what two words is Baldwin talking about?
#38. To: Arete (#24)
Well, I sure as hell can't wait to take a giant step backward in my stardard of living so the corporate CEO's can skate away with a free ride.
#39. To: orangedog (#32)
Granted, but we're not talking about the absence of government, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal.
#40. To: innieway (#38)
There's the real problem. We can all agree that things are sour to say the least, but when it comes down to some personal sacrifice to effect a change - then we're a lot less willing to do it.
#41. To: noone222 (#39)
We need to think outside of the fiction box.
#42. To: Arete (#40)
#43. To: Uncle Bill (#33)
#44. To: Arete (#28)
tsunami effect.
#45. To: orangedog (#32)
overnment, banks and corporations, we're talking about it being damned near a capital offense to cut them out of the deal. This "fair" tax bullshit will be an Orwellian wet dream. Within a couple of years, barter will be taxed as well because just like cash, untaxed barter will be demonized as the tool of tax cheats and terrorists. You might ask who would turn you in? Neighbors, co-workers, maybe even your in-laws. Anyone with an axe to grind or who just can't mind their own business.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
#46. To: IndieTX (#45)
This "fair" tax bullshit will be an Orwellian wet dream.
#47. To: noone222 (#39)
I thought it interesting that you said we're not talking about the absence of governments, corporations and banks ... "They're all legal fictions" ... and our society has been trained to think of them as "reality" !
#48. To: Arete (#46)
If you join the system, the government is going to send you a monthly "prebate" check.
#49. To: orangedog (#48)
the "fair" tax idiots who are beer-bonging that koolaid
#50. To: christine, Arete, robin, Lady X (#25)
look at the many notables who appear in his film.
#51. To: Arete (#49)
#52. To: bluegrass (#50)
It stinks to high heaven. Russo is a front.
#53. To: orangedog (#51)
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but it's nothing compared to what the "fair screwing" idiots want to foist on us.
#54. To: Arete (#53)
#55. To: innieway (#42)
People talk about private property and privte rights, but they don't practice that. They practice the things mentioned above in the first category of opposites. They SHOULD be practicing the things listed in the second category. That's what I meant by the solution being "don't be average". It does require a different way of thinking, but in the long run it's worth it.
War - it's for the children
#56. To: Arete (#28)
#57. To: Freedom William (#56)
So, if Russo's message is inaccurate, then my research is correspondingly inaccurate.
#58. To: Arete (#57)
Has Russo discovered any new information.......
#59. To: Arete (#57)
#60. To: Freedom William (#58)
#61. To: Arete (#29)
I still have to go to the doctor and I know that guy isn't about to accept a couple of chickens and an apple pie for his services.
#62. To: Arete (#60)
I wonder what is motivating him.
#63. To: Freedom William (#62)
#64. To: Arete (#63)
#65. To: DeaconBenjamin (#61)
Would he accept a 10 oz. silver bar?
#66. To: OKCSubmariner, christine, robin, Zipporah (#65)
With congressional midterm elections less than four months away, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that candidates will be facing a public that has grown increasingly pessimistic, as nearly two-thirds don't believe life for their children's generation will be better than it has been for them, and nearly 60 percent are doubtful the Iraq war will come to a successful conclusion.
Thomas Jefferson 1825. ME 16:127
George W. Bush - Source / Video Clip
#67. To: Uncle Bill (#66)
And there's more pessimism: Among those who believe the nation is headed on the wrong track, more than 80 percent say it's part of a longer-term decline.
#68. To: Uncle Bill (#66)
With congressional midterm elections less than four months away, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that candidates will be facing a public that has grown increasingly pessimistic, as nearly two-thirds don't believe life for their children's generation will be better than it has been for them, and nearly 60 percent are doubtful the Iraq war will come to a successful conclusion.
#69. To: Freedom William, christine, Arete (#56)
The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart:
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!"
#70. To: orangedog (#47)
Maybe the coming bad times will help rebuild some of the good character it's lost over the past 7 or 8 decades.
#71. To: bluegrass (#69)
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!
#72. To: noone222, orangedog (#70)
#73. To: who knows what evil (#68)
#74. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#73)
I've been talking with politically knowledgeable baby boomers as of late and a lot of them put down late 1950s to early 1960s as America's peek.
#75. To: Arete (#71)
Hide the poison in the pie.
#76. To: bluegrass, Arete (#75)
#77. To: who knows what evil (#74)
#78. To: christine, Freedom William, everyone who saw FtF last night (#76)
PLEASE give us a recap of the audience size, response, etc.
War - it's for the children
#79. To: Uncle Bill, Lady X, All (#34)
To: Lady X
#80. To: lodwick, Uncle Bill, christine, Freedom Bill (#78)
PLEASE give us a recap of the audience size, response, etc
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#81. To: christine (#76)
I really wish that you two would see it and then tell me if you still feel the same about Russo and his agenda. That's only fair, right? ;)
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