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Title: Rev. John Hagee's War, The Manchurian Clergyman
Source: Counterpunch
URL Source: http://www.counterpunch.com/werther07292006.html
Published: Jul 30, 2006
Author: WERTHER
Post Date: 2006-07-30 23:08:31 by Zoroaster
Ping List: *Israeli Espionage*
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Weekend Edition July 29/30 2006

Rev. John Hagee's War The Manchurian Clergyman By WERTHER

In the 1920s, explaining the growing phenomenon of religious fundamentalism and how it battened Prohibition upon a suffering nation, H.L. Mencken described Southern Baptism as "a theology degraded almost to the level of voodoo." Eighty years on, we could remark, "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose," but we would be wrong.

Things have not remained the same, they have deteriorated. For if there is one thing worse than Elmer Gantry, it is Elmer Gantry with a foreign policy. Not content with polluting the fields of evolutionary biology and stem-cell research with Stone Age dogmas, these zealots have now tried their hand at statecraft.

The latest specimen in Barnum's traveling museum of oddities is John Hagee, director of Christians United for Israel. As profiled in The Wall Street Journal [1], this dervish from the West Texas wastes seemingly lives, breathes, and excretes but one obsession: his love of Israel, above and beyond anything else, including, apparently, the country of which he is nominally a citizen.

We will not provide a comprehensive summary of the article other than to note that he and his followers are particularly active in cheering on the carnage in Lebanon. To that end, he was in the imperial capital of Washington last week to hound Congressmen about their duty of fealty to Israel ­ as if those gunsels of AIPAC needed any instruction. Apparently, the bigger and bloodier the war, the closer the day of Armageddon looms. And the end of the world is what he seeks. [2]

Two revealing details stand out. The first is that the President of the United States actually sent a message of congratulations to Hagee's Washington clambake. Paradoxically, the chief executive stated that Hagee and his acolytes are "spreading the hope of God's love . . ." This statement is somewhat difficult to square with the fact that Hagee, who held one of his previous séances in an Israeli Air Force hangar, seems to positively lust for bloodshed. He is not only a strong supporter of the Iraq fiasco and the leveling of apartment blocks in Beirut, but has also written a book fomenting readers to put political pressure on their government to attack Iran.

This is a new development in the annals of American politics. While the head magistrate is expected to belong to an organized religion and show ceremonial piety when the occasion demands it, it is unprecedented for a president to take such public interest in a fringe cult. It is doubtful whether the genial, (bootleg) whiskey-drinking Warren Gamaliel Harding ever sent a congratulatory telegram to the spirit-rappings of Aimee Semple McPherson. Nor can we picture Silent Cal bestowing his best wishes on a congregation of snake-handlers in the hollows of the Cumberland Ridge. But, as we have observed, these are different times.

The second interesting detail was the fact that Hagee's convention had a Democratic speaker: Rep. Eliot Engel of New York. Nominally a liberal (with an ADA rating of 90), Engel instructed the multitude of Armageddon cultists that Israel's enemies "do the work of Satan." Just the right words to inflame halfwits; who says the American political system is rigged?

The Zionist "Christian" phenomenon has three interesting aspects, psychological, religious, and political. It is taught in most curricula that man is a mammal, and, that like all others of his phyla, indeed all living things, his most basic instinct is for survival, an instinct that trumps even his incurable vanity. Yet these specimens that we have described evidently welcome physical extinction, indeed, they devote much of their emotional energy to it, as the rest of us look forward to food, or sex, or taking a day off work with an iron-clad and phony excuse. What accounts for this?

To Hagee's motives we may apply a discount. As the Journal article describes, Hagee's IRS filings have been subject to some revision, and he is most assuredly not poor. Which leads to the question: if Armageddon lies at hand, why does he accumulate such earthly dross as mere shekels (to use his preferred unit of currency)? Can the process of Rapture, whereby the saved one is drawn up into the ether, allow him to bring his treasure chest along? Or is he merely a figure squarely in the Gantry tradition, along with his colleagues Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson? The reader will have to draw his own conclusion.

His followers are a more difficult case. They make no material profit from their peculiar obsession; rather, one would wager it is a net expenditure on their financial balance sheets. Why do they do it?

It is certain that being a propane retailer in Plano, Texas, is a transcendently horrible experience. Perhaps such miserable creatures long for the soaring narrative of blood and fire, satanic beasts, and climactic battles, purely to dispel the pointless quotidian grind. But why Armageddon, rather than, say, a Shriner's banquet? Eight decades ago, the burghers of Sinclair Lewis's Saulk City became Elks or Rotarians, rather than Wahabbites devoted to a foreign power. We leave it to psychohistorians to divine why these times are different.

The religious aspect also intrigues us. Zionist "Christianity" dates to no earlier than the 1830s, when the English scam artist John Darby inflicted his dispensation upon the world. The word "rapture," needless to say, exists nowhere in the King James Bible. The bloodlust of our End Times fanatics is the polar opposite of the Sermon on the Mount, the summa of Jesus' earthly teachings, an element of the Scripture which fundamentalists seem oddly reluctant to proclaim.

What they profess to believe is a measurably anti-human theology. While Buddhists claim to deny the importance of sensory reality, these anchorites go further, actively welcoming destruction and mayhem. A more accurate comparison might be to the death cult of the Aztecs.

Finally, there are the political ramifications. The crucial plot device (even more significant than brainwashing) in John Frankenheimer's The Manchurian Candidate is the identity of the traitors. Those who would subvert the government were able to place themselves strategically to do so by wrapping themselves in the flag and playing the hyperpatriot.

Hagee's mummery is similar, with one important difference. He lauds every disastrous policy of a self-styled patriotic and conservative administration, and plays the yahoo cultural hick on the home front, a sure sign of 100 percent Americanism. Yet unlike Angela Lansbury, the villainess of the Frankenheimer epic, he takes no pains to conceal his real loyalty. It is perhaps a measure of the difference between 40 years ago and now that someone can declare his obeisance to a foreign power and lobby openly on Capitol Hill. But it is downright troubling that such a person should receive encouragement from the President.

When the definitive psychopathology of the American experiment is written, "the Rev." John Hagee may well merit a lengthy footnote.

Werther is the pen name of a Northern Virginia-based defense analyst.

[1] "A Texas Preacher Leads Campaign to Let Israel Fight," The Wall Street Journal, 27 July 2006, p. A1.

[2] Some choice quotes by rapturists enthusing over the war can be found in a recent column by Ken Silverstein of Harper's.

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#1. To: Zoroaster, Glenna, Jethro Tull, Zipporah, robin, Esso, Eoghan, Brian S, wbales (#0)

The Zionist "Christian" phenomenon has three interesting aspects, psychological, religious, and political. It is taught in most curricula that man is a mammal, and, that like all others of his phyla, indeed all living things, his most basic instinct is for survival, an instinct that trumps even his incurable vanity. Yet these specimens that we have described evidently welcome physical extinction, indeed, they devote much of their emotional energy to it, as the rest of us look forward to food, or sex, or taking a day off work with an iron-clad and phony excuse. What accounts for this?

To Hagee's motives we may apply a discount. As the Journal article describes, Hagee's IRS filings have been subject to some revision, and he is most assuredly not poor. Which leads to the question: if Armageddon lies at hand, why does he accumulate such earthly dross as mere shekels (to use his preferred unit of currency)? Can the process of Rapture, whereby the saved one is drawn up into the ether, allow him to bring his treasure chest along? Or is he merely a figure squarely in the Gantry tradition, along with his colleagues Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson? The reader will have to draw his own conclusion.

this is a zinger...i like his writing.

christine  posted on  2006-07-30   23:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine, aristeides, Dakmar, rowdee, justlurking, Lady X, Red Jones, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#1)

Elmer Gantry ping

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-31   0:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

To Hagee's motives we may apply a discount. As the Journal article describes, Hagee's IRS filings have been subject to some revision, and he is most assuredly not poor. Which leads to the question: if Armageddon lies at hand, why does he accumulate such earthly dross as mere shekels (to use his preferred unit of currency)? Can the process of Rapture, whereby the saved one is drawn up into the ether, allow him to bring his treasure chest along? Or is he merely a figure squarely in the Gantry tradition, along with his colleagues Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson? The reader will have to draw his own conclusion.

Can't take it with you.

Hagee should donate his shekels to the poor -- like me! ;0)

"Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Lord Keynes

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-31   0:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zoroaster (#0)

The first is that the President of the United States actually sent a message of congratulations to Hagee's Washington clambake. Paradoxically, the chief executive stated that Hagee and his acolytes are "spreading the hope of God's love . . ."

Geez, GAG ME!

"Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Lord Keynes

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-31   0:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#2)

Any civilised society would lock these people in padded rooms.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-07-31   7:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

Hagee is a vile traitor and his followers are lunatics, spiritual cripples that can only exist in a natural state. Religion is the creation of men, not God. The first religions were monuments to superstition, ignorance, ferocity; and the Darby heresy is the worst of ancient follies rejuvenated..

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-07-31   9:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zoroaster (#6)

Hagee is a vile traitor and his followers are lunatics, spiritual cripples that can only exist in a natural state. Religion is the creation of men, not God. The first religions were monuments to superstition, ignorance, ferocity; and the Darby heresy is the worst of ancient follies rejuvenated..

No doubt about it. I prefer to study the works of Christ. There is much truth in the gospel. Good men only need a sound moral code to live by and the willingness to stand up and be counted.

"Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Lord Keynes

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-07-31   9:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Dakmar (#5)

Any civilised society would lock these people in padded rooms.

Good choice of words, considering the patients are running this asylum now, which means the doctors and nurses are all being eliminated, locked up or Zundeld, depending on the whim of the insane.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-07-31   9:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#1)

I can tell you one thing, being a Rapture Monkey is a financial drain on the parcticioners. When I was one following Jimmy Swaggart (This was before he was caught visiting hos while telling me that my movie and international playing card collection would send me directly to hell) the experience was very costly.

Funny thing about Swaggart however was that he seemed to hate Israel as much some of the posters here do. (As a forinstance Swaggart believed in the Holocaust but saw it a punishment on the Jews by God for saying "Crucify him" at Pilate's trial of Jesus.) Even though he was a dispensationalist Assemblys of God Minister before being defrocked from that church he seemed to see Isreal as only a neccessary evil to bring about the Rapture.

Basically I quit following the teachings of this sort of minister when i read McPhearson's book The Great Coverup shpowing the true origins of the Rapture and dispensationalism.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-07-31   19:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Coral Snake (#9)

Basically I quit following the teachings of this sort of minister when i read McPhearson's book The Great Coverup showing the true origins of the Rapture and dispensationalism.

i was going to ask what it was that changed your point of view.

"As a small faction of corporate fascists and racist supremacists hijack the U.S. government unto a Mid-East power grab for oil, land and geopolitical hegemony… the kind men among mankind must seize the moral high ground.”

christine  posted on  2006-07-31   19:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zoroaster (#0)

I hate to say this, but Hagee is a typical preacher, fat, big mouthed, and lazy. Satan chooses such to infest "churches" to keep the lost, lost.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-07-31   19:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Zoroaster (#0)

To Hagee's motives we may apply a discount. As the Journal article describes, Hagee's IRS filings have been subject to some revision, and he is most assuredly not poor. Which leads to the question: if Armageddon lies at hand, why does he accumulate such earthly dross as mere shekels (to use his preferred unit of currency)? Can the process of Rapture, whereby the saved one is drawn up into the ether, allow him to bring his treasure chest along?

The "Rapture Bus" better be a C-5 if it expects to haul this gluttons fat ass anywhere !

In a June, 1992 exclusive and published interview granted by President George H. W. Bush to Sarah McClendon, the grand dame of the White House press corps at the time, McClendon said: "George Bush, what will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra?

George Bush replied: 'Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us.' "

It won't be long before Americans learn that Bush was intimately involved in the Nov. 22, 1963 coup that forever changed America into Fascist Amerika !

noone222  posted on  2006-08-01   5:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: RickyJ (#11)

There's some verse written by the Apostle Paul that says beware of those whose god is their stomach or something like that. Hagee always comes to mind whenever I hear it.

Sam Houston  posted on  2006-08-01   7:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#2)

Elmer Gantry ping

I have had the distinct honor and pleasure of knowing the wonderful and irreplaceable Edward Pawley, who was the first Elmer Gantry on Broadway, and a damned good one at that, I've been told. But I have never read it or seen it, but I gather Gantry was a snake-oil salesman like Hagee, Falwell, Robertson, et al. I sure wish Mr. Pawley were alive today, to hear him expound on this in his deep, booming, inimitable voice. Alas, that will have to wait.

I've commented on this so many times, I feel like I am turning into a broken record. However, this is so important an issue if there is ever going to be peace, apart from judgment from above, I will bray again:

The church is deceived. It is part of the antiChrist conspiracy, to destroy America, and to destroy Christianity, in order for the NWO to succeed. Darby is a great part of it. The plot was outlined by Myron Fagan in the 1960's:

"...."Now I have one more vital message to deliver. As I told you; one of the four specific assignments Rothschild gave Jacob Schiff was to create a movement to destroy religion in the United States, with Christianity to be the chief target. For a very obvious reason; the "Anti-defamation League" wouldn't dare to attempt to do it because such an attempt could create the most terrible blood-bath in the history of the world; not only for the "ADL" and the conspirators, but for the millions of innocent Jews. Schiff turned that job over to Rockefeller for another specific reason. The destruction of Christianity could be accomplished only by those who are entrusted to preserve it. By the pastors; the men of the cloth.

"As a starter; John D. Rockefeller picked up a young, so-called, Christian minister by the name of Dr. Harry F. Ward. Reverend Ward if you please. At that time he was teaching religion at the "Union Theological Seminary." Rockefeller found a very willing "Judas" in this Reverend and thereupon in 1907; he financed him to set up the "Methodist Foundation of Social Service" and Ward's job was to teach bright young men to become, so-called, ministers of Christ and to place them as pastors of churches. While teaching them to become ministers; the Reverend Ward also taught them how to subtly and craftily preach to their congregations that the entire story of Christ was a myth; to cast doubts on the divinity of Christ; to cast doubts about the virgin Mary; in short: to cast doubts on Christianity as a whole. It was not to be a direct-attack, but much of it to be done by crafty-insinuation that was to be applied, in particular, to the youth in the Sunday schools. Remember Lenin's statement: "give me just one generation of youth and I'll transform the whole world." Then in 1908; the "Methodist foundation of Social Service," which incidentally was America's first communist front-organization, changed its name to the "Federal Council of Churches." By 1950; the "Federal Council of Churches" was becoming very suspect; so in 1950 they changed the name to the "National Council of Churches." Do I have to tell you more about how this "National Council of Churches" is deliberately destroying faith in Christianity? I don't think so; but this I will tell you. If you are a member of any congregation whose pastor and church are members of this Judas organization; you and your contributions are helping the Illuminati's plot to destroy Christianity and your faith in God and Jesus Christ, thus you are deliberately delivering your children to be indoctrinated with disbelief in God and Church and which can easily transform them into "atheists." Find out immediately if your Church is a member of the "National Council of Churches" and for the love of God and your children; if it is, withdraw from it at once. However; let me warn you that the same destroying religion process has been infiltrated into other denominations. If you have seen the "Negro on Selma" and other such demonstrations; you have seen how the Negro mobs are led and encouraged by ministers (and even Catholic priests and nuns) who march along with them. There are many individual churches and pastors who are honest and sincere. Find one such for yourself and for your children. (All you have to learn is if your "church" is a 501 (c) 3 arm of the state. If it is, you should immediately stop attending it, and stop supporting it with your "tax-deductible" donations.)

"Incidentally; this same Reverend Harry F. Ward was also one of the founders of the "American Civil Liberties Union;" a notorious pro-Communist organization. He was the actual head of it from 1920 to 1940. He also was a co-founder of the "American League against War and Fascism" which, under Browder, became the "Communist Party of the United States." In short; Ward's entire background reeked of communism and he was identified as a member of the Communist party. He died a vicious traitor to both his church and country and this was the man old John D. Rockefeller picked and financed to destroy America's Christian religion in accordance with the orders given to Schiff by the Rothschilds....."

THE ILLUMINATI AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELTIONS

http://usa-the- republic.com/illuminati/cfr_1.html

I saw Hagee on TV this morning [it looked like he sits on some sort of throne, and He does not have the look of anyone with Christ in his heart, IMO]. It was a puff propaganda piece, with the emphasis on Evangelical Christians believing that God said we must always support Israel. No mention of the fact that the AshkeNazi Zionist state stole the name of Israel. No mention of the fact that the church is Israel. They did show one female pastor who disagreed that Christians should have anything to do with violence. They then went on to explain that Hagee says soon, maybe five years, or maybe ten, the battle of Armageddon as prophecied in Ezekiel 38-39 will take place over there, and Russia will invade Israel. They then said something [I was starting to zone out] about Israel being GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE, and I wish I could remember what they said after that, but I was waiting for them to correct themselves on that MYTH, but they didn't. Hence, I don't know how they ended it.

BUT, it got me thinking. They want this international peace-keeping force to go in there, and I think, hmmmmm.....this might go along with that passage "When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies....." This happened about 2,000 years ago, when the Christians fled the city. So they may be using the Hegelian Dialect AGAIN, in order to force troops in there to be slaughtered, all to fulfill their little plot. Search GLOBAL ELITE PROMOTING END-TIMES MYTH.

I DO believe we are in an end-times, but not the way they see it. I see all these Satanic Jews [and I am not including those Jews who are not selfish, greedy, murderous, etc.], and all their cohorts, either converting pretty quick, or being destroyed by Christ, whom I believe is coming soon, and then peace will reign on earth. Psalm 2:12, etc. [Of course, they are planning on faking that, with one of their own, perhaps Prince William, playing Christ. I think they must have George Bush playing the antiChrist. He is perfect for the role, as was Clinton].

I have several good articles on Rev. 38-39; Rev. 20:7-10, if anyone is interested. I have disagreements with each of them, but find them helpful nevertheless. I am a partial preterist. I think the full preterists believe ALL these things have already transpired. OTOH, I have read that both dispensationalism {?} and preterism are a ploy of the Jesuits, hoping to cover all bases. That may be, but I think there is a lot more truth to preterism than not.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-03   19:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)

the Reverend Ward also taught them how to subtly and craftily preach to their congregations that the entire story of Christ was a myth; to cast doubts on the divinity of Christ; to cast doubts about the virgin Mary; in short: to cast doubts on Christianity as a whole. It was not to be a direct-attack, but much of it to be done by crafty-insinuation that was to be applied, in particular, to the youth in the Sunday schools. Remember Lenin's statement: "give me just one generation of youth and I'll transform the whole world."

Sounds like Unitarians and New Agers. There are a lot of confused people who don't really believe any doctrine, but consider themselves christians, for lack of anything else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-03   19:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

Can't take it with you.

There's a joke about that. Before an old man dies he makes his wife swear she'll put all his money in his coffin. She agrees.

Later, as he's lying in the funeral parlor, she walks up to his coffin and tosses a check in, for the full amount of his wealth.

"Benjamin Franklin was shown the new American constitution, and he said, 'I don't like it, but I will vote for it because we need something right now. But this constitution in time will fail, as all such efforts do. And it will fail because of the corruption of the people, in a general sense.' And that is what it has come to now, exactly as Franklin predicted." -- Gore Vidal

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-08-03   19:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: YertleTurtle (#16)

To: BTP Holdings

Can't take it with you.

There's a joke about that. Before an old man dies he makes his wife swear she'll put all his money in his coffin. She agrees.

Later, as he's lying in the funeral parlor, she walks up to his coffin and tosses a check in, for the full amount of his wealth

LOL

"Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Lord Keynes

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-03   20:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#15)

Right, but there was more to it than that. They introduced all kinds of doctrines, including the "chosen people" myth, dispensationalism, Hebrew Roots heresy, Jesus was a Jew disinfo, Gog = Russia [more likely Gog and Magog = Khazars, AshkeNazi Jews; see The Thirteenth Tribe at http://biblebelievers.org, and the invasion of true Israel, Micah 4, Psalm 2, has been ungoing, coming in like a "cloud", just as has been the Kingdom of Heaven, WITHOUT OBSERVATION], etc. etc., to the point many Christians have thrown over Christ to embrace the antiChrist Noahide Laws. A little leaven here, a little leaven there, until the whole lump is leavened [Matthew 13:33].

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-04   9:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#15)

ungoing = ongoing

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-04   9:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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