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Title: Is Crystalk and Goldi-Lox the same person?
Source: Self
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Published: Jul 31, 2006
Author: FormerLurker
Post Date: 2006-07-31 15:24:17 by FormerLurker
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Comments: 118

From looking over some of "Crystalk"'s postings today on LP, I get the distinct impression that he/she/it thinks itself the forum owner. As Goldi-Lox has been strangely silent as of late, where Crystalk posts 24/7, I wonder what is really going on....


You should be banned, but I will just bozo you.

6. To: Pravoslav (#5) You should be banned, but I will just bozo you.

Crystalk posted on 2006-07-31 13:45:43 ET Reply Trace


Why don't you hold it to say five ARTICLES a day for the time being?

15. To: Zeta (#12) Why don't you hold it to say five ARTICLES a day for the time being?

Unlimited comments.

Crystalk posted on 2006-07-31 08:50:02 ET Reply Trace

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#46. To: christine (#40)

Click here and scroll down for the story.

Thank you.

honway  posted on  2006-07-31   22:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Fun and Happy Balls (#39)

long as you keep your balls ;)

"As a small faction of corporate fascists and racist supremacists hijack the U.S. government unto a Mid-East power grab for oil, land and geopolitical hegemony… the kind men among mankind must seize the moral high ground.”

christine  posted on  2006-07-31   22:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: christine (#27)

"Neil's not met Goldi in person. He's talked to her on the phone though."

He's luckier then I though he was.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-07-31   22:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Dakmar (#43)

It would take a lot of glue to build a warship from fortune cookies.

OK.

balls alert it is.

Fun and Happy Balls  posted on  2006-07-31   22:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Fun and Happy Balls (#49)

Swing that set, baby!!!!!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-07-31   22:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ferret Mike (#45)

i thought i had read that somewhere. i was surprised as Crystalk is a decidedly feminine name.

"As a small faction of corporate fascists and racist supremacists hijack the U.S. government unto a Mid-East power grab for oil, land and geopolitical hegemony… the kind men among mankind must seize the moral high ground.”

christine  posted on  2006-07-31   22:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Dakmar (#43)

i've always suspected that AKA Stone and Trace21231 were the same person. trace confirmed this to me but Stone would not give me a straight answer - no pun intended. do you know anything about this?

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-07-31   22:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: christine (#51)

Rapture monkeys taking girly names? Nothing shocks me anymore!

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-07-31   22:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#44)

He/she could be a financial backer of the originator of the forum's formation. There is more then meets th eye here, because any sane person would have banned Crystalk and Quantrill long ago from any forum except perhaps a forum run by Don Black of Storm front.

I tend to think and maybe mistakenly that it probably has to do more with politics or ideology rather than monetary reasons.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-07-31   22:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#51)

The name's origin is from some Arcane reference meaningful to his brand of intolerant and apocalyptic Christianity.

I have punned on his name as it has "cry" in it and he is an ignorant, prissy and malicious little cry baby and he lectured me about the need to respect the word he uses as a handle online. I'll try to find that for you.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-07-31   22:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Morgana le Fay (#52)

I dunno, stone don't seem gay, just puppy-like.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-07-31   22:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Zipporah (#54)

"I tend to think and maybe mistakenly that it probably has to do more with politics or ideology rather than monetary reasons."

You well could be right, but as someone who has had lectures about my unsuitable for LP by him and Quantrill both - Quantrill always makes a motion for banning in a ping to Goldi - I only go by my opinion based on my impression of him.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-07-31   22:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Morgana le Fay (#52)

"i've always suspected that AKA Stone and Trace21231 were the same person. trace confirmed this to me but Stone would not give me a straight answer - no pun intended. do you know anything about this?"

I don't think this is so. Trace at least is educated. Stone wishes he had gone to college.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-07-31   22:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

I don't think this is so. Trace at least is educated. Stone wishes he had gone to college.

i don't think trace has ever talked about his education. at least not on 4um. besides, he told me that he was AKA Stone.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-07-31   22:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Morgana le Fay (#59)

he told me that he was AKA Stone.

I also told you to keep it quiet if you recall.

I am not gay.

Trace21231  posted on  2006-07-31   22:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Morgana le Fay (#59)

"i don't think trace has ever talked about his education. at least not on 4um. besides, he told me that he was AKA Stone."

Interesting. I know Stone is someone I would be sorely tempted to punch in the nose if I met him and he talked the trash in the flesh he does online.

And that is rare for me to get that pissed off at age 52 after over ten years of posting in political forums.

“Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber.” Plato

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-07-31   22:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Trace21231 (#60)

sorry. did i blow it?

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-07-31   22:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike (#55)

I'll try to find that for you.

ok

"As a small faction of corporate fascists and racist supremacists hijack the U.S. government unto a Mid-East power grab for oil, land and geopolitical hegemony… the kind men among mankind must seize the moral high ground.”

christine  posted on  2006-07-31   22:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: honway (#33)

That is news to me.

What specifically were you banned for?

Hi honway, good to see you here on the other side of the darkness. There were a few things I think caused my banning, the least of which may be that Goldi isn't even really Goldi, depending on the day of the week. Specifically, I hadn't posted on LP for a week or so, as the FRetards were flocking there and were simply making it hard to have a decent conversation about anything. I saw a few attacks from some of them, and saw that Boot Hill had pinged Goldi and others trying to make you out to be a coward for not responding as fast as they liked, so I responded that you had in fact responded and stated the facts, contrary to what Goldi was saying.

After that, I came under attack on various threads by Margueritte, liberator, Apokalipsis, Crystalk, and various other blood thirsty shills whenever I tried to inject some reason into their blood dance over the UN observers that were killed, or the deaths of innocent children. They tag teamed me, and I grew sick of the attack, so I told them what I thought of them, where these people proclaim themselves to be Christians, yet speak and act in such a way as to be totally contrary to what Jesus tried to teach.

Eventually, liberator stated that he wanted Kofi eliminated, and I said to him he might want to watch out for the Secret Service due to his comments.

I pinged Fred and asked him if he might know anyone interested in those sorts of comments. It was sort of a joke, but also an attempt to slap some sense into this idiot that was suggesting an assassination against UN Secretary General Kofi. Goldi, or someone on her account, gave me the following messages...

Are you the snot who called them on one of our other members?

You are SO out of here.

BANNED !!

Of course, I had also posted material that demonstrated the true nature of Israeli antagonization of US Marine positions during the 1982-1984 mess in Lebanon, as well as comprehensive material on Pakistan's involvement in 9/11.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   22:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Fun and Happy Balls (#39)

I'm wondering if I should change my 4um name to "balls alert" to match my new "barf alert" nic over on LP. What do you think

I think Crystalk probably gets a hard-on everytime he sees your pic.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   22:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Zipporah, Cynicom (#41)

IMO it's quite doubtful they are one and the same person.. But it is odd when there is someone who posts that often and speaks as if in authority ..makes one wonder what influence that person holds? Who knows.. I sure dont.. ;P

I think Cynicom was on to something in theorizing that Goldi may have handed the reigns of the forum over to the likes of Crystalk and others that she "trusts". In fact, for the majority of the time on that forum, Goldi was virtually non-existant, and posted only on certain topics. All hell could be breaking loose, and she wouldn't be there to reign in the forum as needed.

She may have delegated certain functions over to those she thought "worthy". VERY POOR judgement if such is the case here.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   22:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

She is an ignorant bitch, but she claims Mensa membership. I believe there is a close association between Goldi and the pig called Crystalk, but they are not the same person.

People can claim anything they want. Their words and deeds identify who they really are.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   22:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Ferret Mike, Neil McIver (#44)

He/she could be a financial backer of the originator of the forum's formation.

That's also a possiblity. Neil, any input on this?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Trace21231 (#60)

Hey Trace21231, how's Hollywood these days?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: 82Marine89, CYNICOM, all (#20)

To: Cynicom

Did you post on LP???

If so, it became quite obvious there was an agenda.

I'm the neocon shill that all the libs hate so much. In fact 7 put me on bozo.

Which is why you were bozod there, and now #4 on my list here. And I'm no Lib. All you whores can say is "If you aren't for us, you're a Lib..or a terrorist..or some other name..."

Adios 8289


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IndieTX  posted on  2006-07-31   23:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: FormerLurker (#66)

All hell could be breaking loose, and she wouldn't be there to reign in the forum as needed.

This has happened a couple of times when people have posted spoof threads, sometimes about Goldi herself, and they have stayed up for hours or days. It was pretty obvious that no one had the controls.

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...  posted on  2006-07-31   23:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#64)

Thanks for that information. I did not know until today you were banned.

Ironically, it is posters like you that increased the number of people visiting LP.

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the free of speech.

It is sad to see that vision fail.

honway  posted on  2006-07-31   23:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: All (#72)

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the free of speech.

Should be:

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the freedom of speech.

honway  posted on  2006-07-31   23:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: honway (#72)

It is sad to see that vision fail.

Truly it is. I see that buckeroo has defended me many times against the shills that now inhabit that place that was once free. Please thank him for me.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: ... (#71)

It was pretty obvious that no one had the controls.

That's why I found it odd that I was banned within hours of what I had posted..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: honway, Former Lurker (#72)

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the free of speech.

It is sad to see that vision fail.

Its not failure.. it just has a new 'address' ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-07-31   23:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: honway (#72)

Ironically, it is posters like you that increased the number of people visiting LP.

And honway, don't be modest, much of it was due to you as well...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Zipporah (#76)

Its not failure.. it just has a new 'address' ;)

Hopefully Zipporah, this forum can attract those interested in truth. Thing is, the attack against you has already begun, not here in the forum, but on the outside where lies and smears abound.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: FormerLurker (#78)

Hopefully Zipporah, this forum can attract those interested in truth. Thing is, the attack against you has already begun, not here in the forum, but on the outside where lies and smears abound.

Fully expected.. of course they have to discredit this forum.. they dont want LP posters coming here.. the propaganda war is in full swing.. let them rant.. those who have a clue will ignore such nonsense.. but thanks for the heads-up.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-07-31   23:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: RickyJ (#30)

Oh, I just assumed since they both lived in Maryland at the time and started a web site together that they had met in person.

No, I've never met Goldi face to face. The assuption is reasonable, but she was not living near me when the LP idea was first conceived, and hasn't since.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-01   0:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Neil McIver (#80)

Neil, in your heart, do you think the person running LP right now is the person you knew back when you developed the forum and spoke with her as a peer?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   0:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: FormerLurker (#68)

He/she could be a financial backer of the originator of the forum's formation.

That's also a possiblity. Neil, any input on this?

Sure.

LP had almost no financial backing to start. 25 bucks for the domain name (1) and some borrowed bandwidth from SAPF and that was it. Without knowing whether the LP venture would succeed, I wanted to go into in conservatively and only expand as clearly warranted. No one had money to throw away.

The attraction was FR's huge success in getting people to donate a quarter mil per year. I thought there'd be ample demand for an honest discussion forum to earn a livelihood, but that never happened. I think that requires a forum that caters to either R's or D's, or perhaps Conservatives (self proclaimed) or liberals....one of the mainstream groups. But my aim was for an honest forum that welcomed all views, and that's not a policy that makes many people feel good about donating. Start a pep rally and ban a few of the selected "bad guys" and it's a different story.

But no, there was no heavy financial backer for LP. Unless you count me for having spent a good chunk of 6 months writing the software from pretty much scratch, but that would be it.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-01   1:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Neil McIver (#82)

But no, there was no heavy financial backer for LP. Unless you count me for having spent a good chunk of 6 months writing the software from pretty much scratch, but that would be it.

That truly sucks. You should have put a copyright on the software, then if there were an issue with money, I'm sure they'd be some relief. Apparently "Goldi" is now holding "fundraisers". I just hope we can attract people away from the beleagured site, and hopefully bring them here if they want truth. Perhaps you should go easier on the shills, as they do make for a funtime of slapping around, which is what many like to see...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   1:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Neil McIver (#80)

No, I've never met Goldi face to face.

LOL! Just a chuckle at the irony that I have met her in person and you haven't. Had the roles been reversed I'd of been spared the agony and you probably wouldn't have deferred to her.

I'm not ready to make nice

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-08-01   1:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: FormerLurker (#83)

some people on another forum gave me this picture of goldi lox. they said it was old and that she probably looks different now.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-08-01   1:30:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Morgana le Fay (#85)

I'm slapping myself upside the head for laying my eyes upon that. Eghast, what horror and shame. No wonder she likes to keep herself hidden...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   1:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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