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Title: Is Crystalk and Goldi-Lox the same person?
Source: Self
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jul 31, 2006
Author: FormerLurker
Post Date: 2006-07-31 15:24:17 by FormerLurker
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Views: 1356
Comments: 118

From looking over some of "Crystalk"'s postings today on LP, I get the distinct impression that he/she/it thinks itself the forum owner. As Goldi-Lox has been strangely silent as of late, where Crystalk posts 24/7, I wonder what is really going on....


You should be banned, but I will just bozo you.

6. To: Pravoslav (#5) You should be banned, but I will just bozo you.

Crystalk posted on 2006-07-31 13:45:43 ET Reply Trace


Why don't you hold it to say five ARTICLES a day for the time being?

15. To: Zeta (#12) Why don't you hold it to say five ARTICLES a day for the time being?

Unlimited comments.

Crystalk posted on 2006-07-31 08:50:02 ET Reply Trace

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#69. To: Trace21231 (#60)

Hey Trace21231, how's Hollywood these days?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: 82Marine89, CYNICOM, all (#20)

To: Cynicom

Did you post on LP???

If so, it became quite obvious there was an agenda.

I'm the neocon shill that all the libs hate so much. In fact 7 put me on bozo.

Which is why you were bozod there, and now #4 on my list here. And I'm no Lib. All you whores can say is "If you aren't for us, you're a Lib..or a terrorist..or some other name..."

Adios 8289


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln

IndieTX  posted on  2006-07-31   23:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: FormerLurker (#66)

All hell could be breaking loose, and she wouldn't be there to reign in the forum as needed.

This has happened a couple of times when people have posted spoof threads, sometimes about Goldi herself, and they have stayed up for hours or days. It was pretty obvious that no one had the controls.

.

...  posted on  2006-07-31   23:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#64)

Thanks for that information. I did not know until today you were banned.

Ironically, it is posters like you that increased the number of people visiting LP.

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the free of speech.

It is sad to see that vision fail.

honway  posted on  2006-07-31   23:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: All (#72)

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the free of speech.

Should be:

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the freedom of speech.

honway  posted on  2006-07-31   23:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: honway (#72)

It is sad to see that vision fail.

Truly it is. I see that buckeroo has defended me many times against the shills that now inhabit that place that was once free. Please thank him for me.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: ... (#71)

It was pretty obvious that no one had the controls.

That's why I found it odd that I was banned within hours of what I had posted..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: honway, Former Lurker (#72)

Neil created a very unique platform for an exercise in the free of speech.

It is sad to see that vision fail.

Its not failure.. it just has a new 'address' ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-07-31   23:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: honway (#72)

Ironically, it is posters like you that increased the number of people visiting LP.

And honway, don't be modest, much of it was due to you as well...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Zipporah (#76)

Its not failure.. it just has a new 'address' ;)

Hopefully Zipporah, this forum can attract those interested in truth. Thing is, the attack against you has already begun, not here in the forum, but on the outside where lies and smears abound.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-07-31   23:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: FormerLurker (#78)

Hopefully Zipporah, this forum can attract those interested in truth. Thing is, the attack against you has already begun, not here in the forum, but on the outside where lies and smears abound.

Fully expected.. of course they have to discredit this forum.. they dont want LP posters coming here.. the propaganda war is in full swing.. let them rant.. those who have a clue will ignore such nonsense.. but thanks for the heads-up.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-07-31   23:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: RickyJ (#30)

Oh, I just assumed since they both lived in Maryland at the time and started a web site together that they had met in person.

No, I've never met Goldi face to face. The assuption is reasonable, but she was not living near me when the LP idea was first conceived, and hasn't since.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-01   0:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Neil McIver (#80)

Neil, in your heart, do you think the person running LP right now is the person you knew back when you developed the forum and spoke with her as a peer?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   0:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: FormerLurker (#68)

He/she could be a financial backer of the originator of the forum's formation.

That's also a possiblity. Neil, any input on this?

Sure.

LP had almost no financial backing to start. 25 bucks for the domain name (1) and some borrowed bandwidth from SAPF and that was it. Without knowing whether the LP venture would succeed, I wanted to go into in conservatively and only expand as clearly warranted. No one had money to throw away.

The attraction was FR's huge success in getting people to donate a quarter mil per year. I thought there'd be ample demand for an honest discussion forum to earn a livelihood, but that never happened. I think that requires a forum that caters to either R's or D's, or perhaps Conservatives (self proclaimed) or liberals....one of the mainstream groups. But my aim was for an honest forum that welcomed all views, and that's not a policy that makes many people feel good about donating. Start a pep rally and ban a few of the selected "bad guys" and it's a different story.

But no, there was no heavy financial backer for LP. Unless you count me for having spent a good chunk of 6 months writing the software from pretty much scratch, but that would be it.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-01   1:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Neil McIver (#82)

But no, there was no heavy financial backer for LP. Unless you count me for having spent a good chunk of 6 months writing the software from pretty much scratch, but that would be it.

That truly sucks. You should have put a copyright on the software, then if there were an issue with money, I'm sure they'd be some relief. Apparently "Goldi" is now holding "fundraisers". I just hope we can attract people away from the beleagured site, and hopefully bring them here if they want truth. Perhaps you should go easier on the shills, as they do make for a funtime of slapping around, which is what many like to see...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   1:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Neil McIver (#80)

No, I've never met Goldi face to face.

LOL! Just a chuckle at the irony that I have met her in person and you haven't. Had the roles been reversed I'd of been spared the agony and you probably wouldn't have deferred to her.

I'm not ready to make nice

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-08-01   1:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: FormerLurker (#83)

some people on another forum gave me this picture of goldi lox. they said it was old and that she probably looks different now.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-08-01   1:30:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Morgana le Fay (#85)

I'm slapping myself upside the head for laying my eyes upon that. Eghast, what horror and shame. No wonder she likes to keep herself hidden...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   1:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Morgana le Fay (#85)

Man that smile is going to give me nightmares.

Care to give a warning, next time?

tom007  posted on  2006-08-01   1:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: FormerLurker (#81)

Neil, in your heart, do you think the person running LP right now is the person you knew back when you developed the forum and spoke with her as a peer?

Honestly, no.

When we started I did not know who she was, but she was referred to me by a mutual acquaintence when she was complaining to that person about the atmosphere change in FR in post-911. People were getting banned for objecting to our participation in Afghanistan, and criticism of the WoT (so called) was being met with retribution.

The idea then was to create an alternate forum to compete with FR by allowing people to speak their minds. I assumed from her association with our acquaintence and her displeasure with FR that she was very much pro-freedom & pro-liberty. But either I was wrong or she changed as she became more sympathetic toward invading Iraq. She took the position that we needed to defeat the terrorists first before we could work on the restoration of civil freedoms. I think she voted for Bush because he was far less evil than Kerry. Bought into the "wasted vote" syndrome and didn't want to vote 3rd party.

As you probably know she's now called for Bush's impeachment for failing to secure the borders. She favors pulling out of Iraq now too. Says our work there is beyond done and it's time to leave.

Of course I think her priorities are messed up. Certainly doesn't recognize the emperor attitude being a possible cause of the rest of the world being mad at us.

Bottom line: I think she wants to be pro-freedom and believes she is, but that she fails to weigh principles properly. I don't think she's well anchored in what she believes and that she's subject to change her ideas over time, and that emotion plays a big part in what she believes. I assumed she was well anchored when we started out -- had no reason to assume otherwise -- but no, in my opinion, that's not the case.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-01   1:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Morgana le Fay (#85)

I think she likes you.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-01   1:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: FormerLurker (#83)

Thank you. As for the software, there's no question I own it. What LP is running is a very antiquated version of what's here.

Apparently "Goldi" is now holding "fundraisers".

We had fundraisers shortly after LP went live. I orchestrated some myself. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't think so, anyway. Running forums does have a cost both with money and labor, and it's reasonable that participants at least help with the money part.

I just hope we can attract people away from the beleagured site, and hopefully bring them here if they want truth. Perhaps you should go easier on the shills, as they do make for a funtime of slapping around, which is what many like to see...

Yes, the balance to sought in participation is the grand poobah question in forum management. You really want enough disagreement to keep it interesting, while maintaining some limits to prevent outright and persistent flaming that fills commentary with a 10 to 1 ration of mudslinging vs thoughtful content.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-01   1:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Morgana le Fay (#85)

AAAGHH!! MY EYES!!!


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-01   1:46:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: IndieTX (#91)

Useing this as a test of a photo site.

tom007  posted on  2006-08-01   1:52:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: All (#92)

tom007  posted on  2006-08-01   1:57:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: tom007 (#92)

Useing this as a test of a photo site

Pretty cute test. Have her give me a ping sometime... :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   1:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: All (#93)

http://pics6.cig.canon-europe.com/priv/A3DD1CA901BA7DC9BD11D202A70EA19C.jpg

tom007  posted on  2006-08-01   2:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#90)

You really want enough disagreement to keep it interesting, while maintaining some limits to prevent outright and persistent flaming that fills commentary with a 10 to 1 ration of mudslinging vs thoughtful content.

And that is the secret. With you, Chris, and Zipporah at the helm, we have nothing to fear. We just need to put those that spread lies into their place, and I think there's enough people here to do just that. A massive bot attack could be twarted if need be.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   2:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: tom007 (#95)

here are the hills behind my house.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-08-01   2:08:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Morgana le Fay (#97)

here are the hills behind my house.

Beautiful area Morgana..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   2:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: tom007 (#95)

And BTW Tom, that is a beautiful picture as well. Lucky guy.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   2:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Morgana le Fay (#97)

Looks like Montana??? California?? East Washington? A little volcanic ridge at the top there?

Behind your house???

MLF, you have made some good decisions in your life. Thanks for sharing your backyard. It is beyound beautifull.

Magestic.

tom007  posted on  2006-08-01   2:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: tom007 (#100)

Magestic.

You meant Majestic, didn't you Tom.. :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   2:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: FormerLurker (#101)

You meant Majestic, didn't you Tom.. :)

How did you know??

The funny thing was,that, I always know when I misspell a word, yet it takes me forever to correct it.

Thanks for the kind lesson - bit by bit my spelling is better, I thunk.

tom007  posted on  2006-08-01   2:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: tom007 (#102)

I don't think I've clued you in enough as to what I meant. Google "Majestic Strieber". That'd be a start.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-01   2:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: tom007 (#95)

Testing a red X?

"Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Lord Keynes

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-01   6:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: FormerLurker (#0)

What else would you expect from a poster whose name is the compound of "cry" and "stalk"?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-08-01   8:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: IndieTX (#70)

Which is why you were bozod there, and now #4 on my list here. And I'm no Lib. All you whores can say is "If you aren't for us, you're a Lib..or a terrorist..or some other name..."

Adios 8289

I'm crushed.

"Life is tough. Life is tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy

82Marine89  posted on  2006-08-01   8:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: All (#106)

Since he is the only one to appear to have me on bozo, I would like to take the time to thank the rest of you for accepting my dissenting points of view on certain topics.

"Life is tough. Life is tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all." - John F. Kennedy

82Marine89  posted on  2006-08-01   9:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: 82Marine89 (#107)

you're welcome, marine. we've been able to disagree and discuss those issues respectfully and without personal animosity. i appreciate that.

"As a small faction of corporate fascists and racist supremacists hijack the U.S. government unto a Mid-East power grab for oil, land and geopolitical hegemony… the kind men among mankind must seize the moral high ground.”

christine  posted on  2006-08-01   9:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: christine (#5)

is Crystalk male or female?

Crystalk is a male.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-01   10:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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