come on, bluegrass, comparing the information aj puts out to limbaugh and savage???
Although they all have the means and the knowledge, none of them have explicitly warned Americans of the domination of American culture by organized Jewry.
Q: How many Zionists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Two. One to subvert the constitution and the other to shoot a child in the head.
so do i. i NEVER watch tv and watch few films. aj has come a long way in maturity, imo. i'd urge you to watch Terror Storm. it's focus is the history of government sponsored terrorism. it's his best work to date. i'm not much of a fan of his earlier stuff either. if you've not listened to aj of late, i don't think you can fairly judge him. my opinion, of course. and! aj did a phenomenal job with the LA 911 & Neocon Agenda conference.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
So, your problem is that Alex Jones isn't exposing these people who you believe are the "globalists"?
Who are these bankers, you may rightly ask? According to reliable sources in Switzerland, the following banks hold the controlling interest in the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM. They are all Jewish owned and/or controlled. In their order of importance they are:
1 - Rothschild Bank of London and Berlin. 2 - Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris.
3 - Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy.
4 - Warburg Bank of Amsterdam and Hamburg.
5 - Lehman Brothers of New York City.
6 - Kuhen-Loeb Bank of New York City.
7 - Chase~Manhattan Bank of New York City (David Rockefeller's baby.)
8 - Goldman, Sachs Bank of New York City.
Please note that the first four banks are all foreign banks.
Approximately 300 people who are closely associated. many by marriage, own and control this system by holding stock or shares in the system. They control an interlocking, international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison, most of which has been stolen from the working man of America through their Federal Reserve System.
I can see why you want these people exposed. Yet, how does this discredit Jones?
The website you link to reminds me of Jack Van Impe.
Amusing site.
Friends, may I gently suggest you are either being facetious, or perhaps gave only a cursory look at that site, and misinterpreted what was being said there.
In the past, I have spoken with Carol Valentine, and I can attest to the fact that she is no Jack Van Impe, nor is she amused. She has another site and other topics, where she sets a different tone, which I will mention in a second. At come-and- hear, she starts out, and TRIES [for the most part] a more conversational tone as you may be able to detect here [but oftentimes her true feelings win out and emerge with a vengeance and great wit]:
Maybe like Alex Jones, she doesn't want to start out by totally alienating people to her cause, which is to educate people to the truth about the Talmud and the Zionist agenda for America.
Her other websites/topics are here, and right from the get-go, they speak for themselves of her true feelings. Examples:
Carol has done a tremendous amount of research, and is a Christian and a patriot. I think she has awakened thousands, if not millions of people to the Zionist agenda. I don't want to leave the impression with people who do not know of her work to ignore or disregard it, because there is a tremendous amount of information to be gleaned from her websites.
As for the http://sweetliberty.org site [I can't find who mentioned it]. Perhaps there is not an original thought there [I wouldn't know], but it is presented in such a way, that it has also helped to educate many, many people. It all helps. What is that saying, "I cannot do everything, but I can do something." I think Jackie does a fine job in what she does, which is trying to get the message out there about what has been going on.
Late, you'all seem to know Alex Jones better than I, although I have been reading his stuff for years now. I am of the same opinion as others on the thread, that what he does helps expose the plot for the first time to people who never even knew there was one. Once they start doing research for themselves, it won't take them long to discover who is behind it. Possibly this IS a psyops to get all of us to just ignore Alex. I don't know.
At any rate, thanks for all the links. There are some great ones there. Loved the one on Zakheim. Maybe "They" saw it, too. Some of the talking heads last night and this morning were going on about the $1 Billion of American taxpayer money some Iraqi had supposedly squandered. I thought then, big deal, what about the TRILLIONS Zakheim can't account for. Nothing like diverting attention.
I'll put my 2 cents in.. I've always felt there was something not quite right about AJ.. Ive listened to his program often.. but IMO he comes across as an entertainer.. and it's not usual for disinformationalists to give part of most of the truth and get people to follow them.. This may sound petty but his insistence re the owl at Bohemian Grove is Molech is ridiculous.. And I will add anytime people dont think for themselves and look to another person for intellectual authority need to reexamine who they are looking to..and themselves for it's very foolish IMO.
"Alex Jones tries to expose the NWO to people without following the agenda and protocol of other people who want him to expose them "their way".
In other words, expose them "our way" or we'll start a disinfo campaign against you. Alex cannot be "steered" into doing things their way. They all say he's never criticized Israel. He has. They just want Alex to address that, in the history of the events of the recent past, an examination of the people behind the pushes for wars have always been - JEWS. Why? Because they profit from wars.
And they don't like it, possibly not without merit in their argument, but nonetheless, Alex has the Right to do things his way on his own site, in a way he deems appropriate, and so far, I think he's conducted himself for the most part, in a professional manner. Alex merely views the NWO as comprising certain Jews (which is indeed correct as some Jews absolutely detest the NWO and its plans for global government).
If such is true, then let them start their own show if they want them exposed "their way".
Or we can do my idea....the Mega Debate Pay per View, the loser acquishesing all Title and Right. Alex Jones vs. Darlyl Bradford Smith. We'll do a phone text vote and charge .10 cents a call.
And to some of these people, Jews - not matter how innocent and ignorant they are to the plans and agenda of the "elite Jews" (Ashkenazi Communists and Fascists Socialists "spreading democracy" around the world) are simply branded as evil, which they are not.
The elites are not "spreading democracy". They are spreading "interests" beholden to them and calling it "democracy" (after they bomb you into submission, as in Iraq, and of late, Lebanon and Gaza ... you do remember Gaza Beach don't you?)."
When AJ refers to the globalists, he is talking about the Bilderbergs, Trilaterals, CFR's, international bankers and corporates. Think tank members of AEI, etc..There are lists of these people, who they are and what they do.
I've never heard the actual recording of Freedman's speech. I have written copies of it, but unfortunately, until I replace this clunker, I can't do much with that link, or the others that are not html. I'll have to put them all on my "to do" list. Right now, I can't even get my printer to work, unfortunately, because I'd like to make copies of the Zakheim articles and this one as well:
This may sound petty but his insistence re the owl at Bohemian Grove is Molech is ridiculous..
Your confusion my lie in the sex of the god/goddess in the ceremony. The owl figure is the female form of Molech described in Torah/Talmud, and was called Lilith.
The Sumerian Goddess Lilith, Eve's dark sister and first wife of Adam, representative of all that is dark, wild, intensely creative and free in human nature, existing beyond the reach of society's boundaries or control.
According to the Talmud, Lilith was the first wife of Adam, before Eve. Lilith refused to lie down for Adam in sexual submission, and fled the Garden of Eden. She went to Yahweh (God) and tricked him into giving his secret name, his name of power. Because Lilith now had power over Yahweh, she demanded he give her wings and she flew to the desert. Adam begged Yahweh to send Lilith back to him and Yahweh sent the three angels Senoi, Sansenoi and Samangloph to find her and bring her back. They found her on the banks of the Red Sea, copulating with demons, and giving birth to hundreds of demon children. She refused to return and was told that she would lose a hundred of her children every day if she did not, but still she refused.
Adam was given a new mate: Eve. You know the story, they fell from favour with Yahweh and Adam decided upon celibacy. Then Lilith had her revenge. Every night she came to him as succuba, capturing his semen and making demon babies. In some versions of the legend, Samael, the Demon King was one of these and she took him for her mate and companion.
Various legends of Lilith saw her as a threat to children, possibly in revenge for the killing of her own demon babies. Patricia Monaghan says, "Lilith threatened children as well, for she has power over all infants in their first week... Mothers could protect their children however, by hanging an amulet marked 'Sen Sam San" for the protective angels Sensenoi, Samangalaph, and Sanoi" - around the child's neck.
"Because she liked her victims smiling she tickled the infant's feet. It giggled, thereupon Lilith strangled it... Mothers were also wary of kites, pelicans, owls, jackals, wildcats and wolves, all disguises favoured by Lilith, who went as well by 40 other names and represented a terrifying power that the Sumerians called Lamasthu, the Greeks Lamia, and other people Gilou, Kishimogin, or Baba Yaga." 1
According to the Farrars, "Lilith was not her original name, which appears to have been lost. She acquired it by identification with the Sumerian 'night hag' Lilitu. As such, she is the 'screech-owl' or 'night monster' of Isaiah xxiv:14." 2
If Alex Jones were really a threat to anything significant, he'd have been suicided long ago.
One would think that, but since Alex is not the only voice out there, and most of the info I have found out about 9/11 did not come from Alex, actually almost all of it didn't, killing him would not stop the 9/11 truth movement one iota. Actually it would do the opposite. Also, whether Alex is sincere in his efforts to uncover the truth or not doesn't really matter, the truth for the most part is already out there. The 9/11 truth movement is huge and will not go away as long as people can still think. The government can't put this genie back in the bottle no matter how hard they try. To be honest, I think this is exactly the way TPTB want it. They screwed up 9/11 too bad to not want the truth to be known by the populace. What the plan is I don't know, but I have a feeling that it is not good.
God is always good! "It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
perhaps gave only a cursory look at that site, and misinterpreted what was being said there.
ok I'll take your word for it. I guess she couched it just a little too much.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."
This could be quite possibly the biggest question ever asked of truth seekers everywhere: do you truly want to see the cold-blooded killers who were responsible for the 9-11 attacks brought to justice, or do you want to continue playing ring-around-the-rosie and tossing handkerchiefs at the issue?
I ask this question because right now we know the “hows” of 9-11 (World Trade Center controlled demolitions, and no Flights 77 and 93 at the Pentagon and Shanksville). We also know the “whys” of 9-11 (a new Pearl Harbor to facilitate a Middle East invasion).
So, doesn’t it seem like a logical step to finally focus our attention on the “whos” of 9-11?
I’m not talking about the “plumbers” who actually planted explosives inside the twin towers, or even the “Evil 13” hands-on implementers (see: Phantom Flight 93).
Instead, what I’m referring to is the ultimate driving force behind this diabolical plot: the nation of Israel. They are, as a few other brave souls have pointed out, the lumbering elephant in a room which most everyone in the 9- 11 truth movement, alternative media, and patriot movement refuse to confront (or even acknowledge, for that matter).
This situation is so glaringly apparent that it seems as if the Israeli Lobby is sponsoring most every 9-11 event, along with the majority of Internet “truth” sites and radio shows. I mean, it appears as if every possible avenue of investigation is fair game (even those that are patently absurd) except for one: ISRAEL. The protection racket which has been erected around this issue is so obvious that I can’t believe more truth-seekers aren't erupting over it.
But then again, since Israel's Lobby has cornered the 9-11 market, what’s so surprising about this revelation? That’s how this entire scenario was planned from day one – way before the events of September 11, 2004 ever unfolded.
If you don’t believe me, look at the following figures in the 9-11 truth movement (some of whom have otherwise done fine work):
Alex Jones: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Dave von Kleist: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks 9-11 http://Truth.org: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks Dylan Avery: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Jim Hoffman: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Paul Thompson: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks Webster Tarpley: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks Carol Brouillet: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks Kyle Hence: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks David Ray Griffin: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Nicolas Levis: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks Phil Berg: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Bob Bowman: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Mike Ruppert: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Tom Flocco: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Jenna Orkin: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Paul J. Watson: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks Wayne Madsen: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Jimmy Walter: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Gabriel Day: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Janice Matthews: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks David Kubiak: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks Les Jamieson: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9-11 attacks M. Chossudovsky: refuses to examine Israel’s role as a key conspirator in the 9- 11 attacks
I could continue for pages, but instead I’ll simply ask: why aren’t these individuals covering Israel’s direct involvement in the planning, coordination, execution, and cover-up of the 9-11 attacks?
Especially when the terrorist nation of ISRAEL was directly involved in 9-11.
If you’re still not convinced, take a look at George Noory’s Coast-to-Coast AM radio show. The only 9-11 figures who are ever full-fledged guests on his show are those who belong to the “club” – i.e. those who unflinchingly protect Israel at any cost. Furthermore, in the ten+ years that it's been on the air where literally every conceivable subject under the sun has been discussed, not once has there ever been a show devoted to Israel's multitudinous crimes - EVER! Doesn't anyone ever scratch their head and wonder why? Do you think it could be deliberate, especially considering that they're owned by Clear Channel? Also, don’t be fooled when these individuals use diversionary buzzwords such as “neo-con,” “Illuminati,” “New World Order,” or “globalist,” for they're nothing more than a way to sugar-coat the reality of this situation. Even the use of “Zionist” isn’t fully sufficient, for if we’re going to expose the true 9-11 culprits, let’s identify them forthwith: the nation of Israel and the Israeli Lobby.
Luckily there are a few courageous souls such as John Kaminski, Eric Hufschmid, Mike Rivero, Christopher Bollyn, Michael Collins Piper, Bill Brumbaugh, and the American Free Press who have exposed Israel's involvement in 9-11, while others such as Morgan Reynolds, Professor Jim Fetzer, and Vyzygoth are at least willing to discuss and/or acknowledge the problem. So, sure, the Israeli Lobby will continue to allow a few “limited hang-outs” to be thrown into the public arena (i.e. Charlie Sheen), but be damn sure about one thing: the perpetrators behind 9-11 blew their operation big-time, and they now know that more and more people realize that it was an inside job. The only thing they’re trying to salvage right now is the identity of who ultimately planned and benefited the most from 9-11 --- ISRAEL.
If you want the ultimate, unimpeded 9-11 truth, there’s only one direction left to investigate: Israel. Everything else is simply spinning your wheels (i.e. being manipulated by Israel via the assorted members of their protection racket). http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/911israel.html
The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size
#102. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, bluegrass, *US is Proxy State For Israel* (#101)
John Kaminski, Eric Hufschmid, Mike Rivero, Christopher Bollyn, Michael Collins Piper, Bill Brumbaugh, and the American Free Press who have exposed Israel's involvement in 9-11, while others such as Morgan Reynolds, Professor Jim Fetzer, and Vyzygoth are at least willing to discuss and/or acknowledge the problem.
There must be more!
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."