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Title: American Madrassas - Jesus Camp
Source: Journal
URL Source: http://journal.davidbyrne.com/
Published: Aug 8, 2006
Author: Journal
Post Date: 2006-08-08 01:43:54 by Morgana le Fay
Keywords: None
Views: 172
Comments: 5

Saw a screening of a documentary called Jesus Camp. It focuses on a woman preacher (Becky Fischer) who indoctrinates children in a summer camp in North Dakota. Right wing political agendas and slogans are mixed with born again rituals that end with most of the kids in tears. Jesus CampTears of release and joy, they would claim — the children are not physically abused. The kids are around 9 or 10 years old, recruited from various churches, and are pliant willing receptacles. They are instructed that evolution is being forced upon us by evil Godless secular humanists, that abortion must be stopped at all costs, that we must form an “army” to defeat the Godless influences, that we must band together to insure that the right judges and politicians get into the courts and office and that global warming is a lie. (This last one is a puzzle — how did accepting the evidence for climate change and global warming become anti-Jesus? Did someone simply conflate all corporate agendas with Jesus and God and these folks accept that? Would Jesus drive an SUV? Is every conclusion responsible scientists make now suspect?)

Awareness of the rest of the world is curtailed — one can only view or read that which agrees with the agenda.

Naturally, the kids being so young, there is no questioning of any kind — they simply accept what grownups Fischer and the others say — they get pumped up, agitated, they memorize right wing and Jesus slogans and shout them back obediently. They become part of a support group — a warm, safe, comfortable feeling for anyone, for any social animal, for you and me. No one strays or gets out of line even the slightest bit. (More on peer pressure later.)

There were some perfect sound bites — at one point Pastor Fischer instructs the little ones that they should be willing to die for Christ, and the little ones obediently agree. She may even use the word martyr, which has a shocking echo in the Middle East. I can see future suicide bombers for Jesus — the next step will be learning to fly planes into buildings. Of course, the grownups would say, “Oh no, we’re not like them” — but they admit that the principal difference is simply that “We’re right.”

In another scene a cardboard cutout of George W. Bush, with his trademark smirking smile, is brought out and the children are urged to identify — many of the little ones come forward and reverently touch his cardboard hands.

I kept saying to myself, “O.K., these are the Christian version of the Madrassas (those Islamic religious instructional schools in Pakistan and elsewhere, often financed by Saudi oil money)...so both sides are pretty much equally sick, there’s a balance." (Although it must be said the Madrassas provide some regular education and literacy where no other option is available, they do community work that is non-religious...and they take in aimless troubled youth.)

They want to turn the U.S. into the "Christian" version of Iran or Saudi Arabia. A theocracy. The separation between church and state, already shaky with Bush in charge, is under full frontal assault by this bunch — and they are well organized, too. The megachurches tell their parishioners who to vote for, what judges to support, letters to write, and where they should stand on the issues. Well, we all do this to some extent — even in casual chats with friends we attempt to deduce and arrive at a consensus of opinion; a sloppy democratic give-and-take on any number of subjects often gives way to agreement. But this is top-down messaging — no discussion allowed. There’s a scene in the Colorado Springs megachurch run by the Preacher who talks with Bush once a week — same deal as with the kids, only most of the attendees are pliant adults.

What is it about Colorado Springs? Littleton is right next door to these megachurches. I think they are 2 sides to the same coin. One breeds the other. The dissatisfaction and alienation that leads folks to join this weird non-“Christian” Christianity (much the same has been said about fundamentalist Islamic groups, that they are a perversion of the Islam of the Prophet) leads down a road to both Littleton and Colorado Springs — and in the sense that they allow the mind to be pleasantly emptied, they are identical.

The documentary juxtaposes scenes of an Air America radio call-in guy, a former preacher himself — who rants against this version of Christianity. These scenes seemed almost unnecessary, as to many of us in the audience Becky was pretty much indicting herself, though she wouldn’t see it that way. But they did give some relief from the scary view of the heartland as harboring an army in formation. Zombies from the wheat fields.

Sad, as the heartland and areas untouched by the big city sicknesses are also the home of much practical down-to-earth wisdom. Wisdom borne of the land and of experience, unsullied by the trendy political and ethical philosophies that periodically sweep the urban jungles.

When one sees religion perverted — in the U.S. or in Israel, Pakistan, Afghanistan or India, one wonders if the spiritual seeds, planted by visionaries and enlightened prophets like Jesus, Mohammed, Marx and others, are just too volatile for large societies to deal with. One asks if religious visions are better off kept as a personal thing, or at least confined to a small group — otherwise the death and destruction sown by and in the name of religions more or less balances out their moral and personal virtues (which are many.)


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here is a link to another 'jesus camp' article: http://www.indiewire.com/biz/2006/07/magnolia_eyeing.html

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#1. To: Morgana le Fay (#0)

VBS just ain't what it used to be. (Vacation Bible School)

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-08   1:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#1)

I went to a "Jesus Camp". It was a "mixed camp" of Protestants and Catholics. About 70 percent to 30 percent in favor of the Protestants. I went three years in a row. Its interesting to recall that after the first year you got to pick your tentmates for the following years. After the first year I was in a tent with all Catholics and the camp self segregated that way- my older brother's tent as well was all Catholics- course most of the kids from my town were Catholics and the Prot kids came from Pennsylvania- so that had more to do with it I imagine. But on Sundays the Catholics got bused to the local Catholic Church- where other camps also sent their kids - while the protestants held some sort of outdoor Voodoo weirdness at the "forrest chapel" where they took turns reading their King James "Bible", and of course- there was the requisite protestant tamborine and guitar.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-08-08   2:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Morgana le Fay (#0)

I kept saying to myself, “O.K., these are the Christian version of the Madrassas (those Islamic religious instructional schools in Pakistan and elsewhere, often financed by Saudi oil money)...so both sides are pretty much equally sick, there’s a balance."

The Jewish David Byrne will accept nothing less than the false, weak, watered down Christianity of the mindless warmongering type so pervasive today.

Christianity is on its way out. The Jews, through their superior intellect, remarkable tenacity and cohesion, have won. Anyone caught still doing Christian stuff in 10 years will have their arms and legs hacked off.

"As America give billions to Israel, our schools complain of a lack of money and our government complains it cannot afford to create a proper train system. The USA is like a retarded girl who has been tricked by the neighborhood boys into letting them have sex." -- Hufshmid

Nintendo of the Gods  posted on  2006-08-08   2:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Morgana le Fay (#0)

It focuses on a woman preacher (Becky Fischer) who indoctrinates children in a summer camp in North Dakota.

Fischer is a jewish name. [I've known several, one being Eddie Fischer that was married to Elizabeth Taylor].

I ran into a lady named Joanie Fischer from Pennsylvania. She was a member of Free Republic, and helped start 2nd Amendment Sisters etc., some here may know her. I believe her handle was patriotjoanie. I asked her if she was Jewish and she told me no, her husband was.

Maybe Becky Fischer is a Jew, maybe not. There are plenty of non-Jewish people that pervert the scriptures, and they usually wind up turning people against spiritual pursuits because of their "brand" of "religion" ...

Let's give Mel a Mega-Phone, a Bottle of Tequila, and a 50 Cal.

noone222  posted on  2006-08-08   3:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222 (#4)

I agree, has look and smell of gefilte fish...SPLC secret sponsorship?

The film documentary...

Beyond the Ideological and the Political in "Jesus Camp," A Chat With Children's Pastor Becky Fischer

A particularly inflammatory scene that heightens the political overtones for viewers takes place at a revival meeting lead by Fischer and her associates, in front of well over 100 children. In the scene, Fischer takes a life-size standup photo of President George W. Bush to the stage, and with a large American flag in the background, asks the crowd to raise their hands towards him in prayer.

"I didn't realize how the secular world viewed what we were doing," Fischer said, adding that Grady and Ewing spent about a year filming her -- including a visit to the Kids On Fire summer camp in Devil's Lake, ND -- explaining that political side of the equation had only come up toward the end of shooting.

"When we took out [an] image of Bush, it turned political, but to us, it's not political - it's Biblical," she said.

"All you have to do is mention words like abortion, homosexuality and President Bush to [garner] strong feelings from people," said Fischer who maintained that using images of the U.S. President and the flags of the U.S. and Israel were not meant to be overtly political. "We are commanded to pray for our leaders and we're commanded [by the Bible] to pray for Israel. So it was a surprise to me because we don't think of this as political. But from a secular point-of-view, I can see how it's viewed politically."

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-08-08   7:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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