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Title: Aaron Russo on John Stadtmiller's Show Just Now: "I am NOT for the fair tax. I'm for getting rid of the Federal Reserve System."
Source: RBN
URL Source: http://www.rbnlive.com
Published: Aug 8, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-08-08 18:16:06 by christine
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Views: 770
Comments: 42

"I don't want to feed the beast and the beast to me is the Federal Reserve System."

Seems he's in agreement with Eustace Mullins and G. Edward Griffin, among notable others, on this issue.


Poster Comment:

Another out of the park interview. I recommend listening to the archive.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

The FED isn't going away unless the plan is to merge it into the new North American Union Central Bank similar to the ECB.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   18:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Arete (#1)

The FED isn't going away unless the plan is to merge it into the new North American Union Central Bank similar to the ECB.

Barring something like that...

What would it take to shut down the Fed? Jackson did it in the 1830's (and was rewarded with his face printed on $20 FRNS).

But it would litterally take an act of Congress to shut down the fed, and what are the chances of that happening given today's hooked on spending economics?

A complete collapse of the US economy, probably.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   18:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Aaron needs to get some good nasal spray going on.

Or a mute button.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod  posted on  2006-08-08   18:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

Seems he's in agreement with Eustace Mullins and G. Edward Griffin, among notable others, on this issue.

That's great. I'm really looking forward to his movie.

I just wish certain people here would forget about him being a "jew" and recognize a good ally when he stares them in the face.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   18:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lodwick (#3)

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   18:32:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#5)

Great 'toon. Thank you.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod  posted on  2006-08-08   18:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Neil McIver (#4) (Edited)

Russo, like Moses, is coming down from the Mt. with the tablets, but this time it will be exposing the International Bankers Laws.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   18:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#0)

Although I agree with him on eliminating the Unconstitutional FedRes, I am in favor of ELIMINATING the IRS completely and the income tax. Why Russo wants the status quo IRS is suspect. Very suspect.


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IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-08   18:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Neil McIver, Christine (#2)

What would it take to shut down the Fed?

There has been a lot of talk about a new North American Union currency called the Amero. That would do it. There is a whole lot of crap going on behind the curtains that most of us are not aware of. The dollar is dead - killed by all the borrowing and spending so "they" are going to roll the whole mess into something bigger and start over again.

I got a good laugh the other day when C-Span interviewed a so called expert by the name of Robert Pastor, on the Mexican elections. Turns out the guy is a CFR shill.

Here is the link to the interview. Use the slide to advance to 22 mins and you will get to hear how a biometric photo ID with a thumb print is a "proud statement of democracy" by the people. At 23 min, Cindy from Del outs Pastor as a North America Union front man. Watch the expression on the guy's face.

Robert Pastor Interview

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   18:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Neil McIver (#2)

But it would litterally take an act of Congress to shut down the fed, and what are the chances of that happening given today's hooked on spending economics?

A complete collapse of the US economy, probably.

imo, that's the only thing that will do it. it sure as hell doesn't hurt to educate the sheeple about it ! it's fun to see the reactions of the people on the street, Russo shows in his film, when he informs them that the Fed Reserve isn't federal, but rather a private cartel, and that there's no law requiring them to pay income tax.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine  posted on  2006-08-08   19:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Arete. Everyone here (#9)

From the last caller to the show this evening -

http://www.americapromodvd.com/

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod  posted on  2006-08-08   19:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Neil McIver (#4)

recognize a good ally

If Russo already knows that the dollar, the FED and the IRS are destined to be mergered into something else, as I suspect he does, then his message of demonizing the current system plays right into the hands of the NWO central planners. I don't trust him. The government and the power elite money people have all the marbles riding on being able to con the public into accepting a European style reform.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   19:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lodwick (#11)

thanks for that one

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   19:07:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: IndieTX (#8)

Why Russo wants the status quo IRS is suspect

oh, he doesn't !! most of the movie is exposing the fact that there is NO LAW that requires most americans to pay taxes on their labor (Russo nails the former IRS commissioner. exposes him as the lying fool he is).

you've really got to see the movie !! ;)

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine  posted on  2006-08-08   19:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#14)

pay taxes on their labor

That, should be setting off alarms in your head. It did mine.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   19:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Arete (#12)

The government and the power elite money people have all the marbles riding on being able to con the public into accepting a European style reform.

As opposed to what? Keeping the current 90 year old con running? It's not like they want to take away economic soverignty. That's already been done.

No, they don't have all their marbles riding on anything. If the PTB's want Euro style reform, then barring popular demand of the return to a gold standard, they'll get it eventually. It's just a question of when. They are a patient lot. No reason for them to be in a hurry either. They'll still get paid regardless.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   19:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Arete (#9)

i agree with you. the dollar is dead and we're going to get rolled into the Amero. but let me ask you this, is it better that the Amero is imposed upon an unsuspecting public or is it better to have the public view this film and become informed of how the government and the fed reserve has lied to them and stolen from them for 95 years?

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine  posted on  2006-08-08   19:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Arete (#15)

arete, those are my words. don't judge the film by MY words. i really think this is fruitless until you've seen it for yourself.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine  posted on  2006-08-08   19:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Arete, christine (#15)

That, should be setting off alarms in your head. It did mine.

Why? I agree with it.

The IRS does more than just handle 1040's. They handle corporate taxes and many other kinds of taxes. Tax collection is needed and if it's not handled by the IRS it will require another alphabet department.

No, it's not the fact that we have something called the IRS that's the problem. It's what the IRS spends most of its time doing, and that's collecting taxes on people's labor, which needs to stop. Though it would be fun to see I'm not in favor of shutting down the IRS because it would just usher in it's replacement. It's the illegal IRS practices that need to change.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   19:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Neil McIver (#16)

As opposed to what? Keeping the current 90 year old con running?

So you are all for letting them getting away with the theft, looting the treasury and then happy to give them a chance to do it all over again. Hey, that's the ticket. Just push the reset button and let the con job begin again. Let the dollar go to zero and take back our county is my solution, unless you are comfortable with the current economic slave/master system we already have.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   19:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Arete (#20)

So you are all for letting them getting away with the theft, looting the treasury and then happy to give them a chance to do it all over again.

Certainly I'm not. But the issue is/was whether these powers are desperate and I don't think they are at all. Also it's whether having people view Russo's film works in their favor in fifth column style or against them.

I think it works against them. (Based on what I've learned about the film. As a disclaimer I have not yet seen it). Getting people to question authority and many of the things they've taken for granted all their lives is what the cause of freedom needs.

Or maybe these PTB's are desperate. I hope so. That would be a great sign.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   19:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Neil McIver, christine (#16)

It's just a question of when.

Seems that 2010 is the target date for the puppet masters. I would hope that not everyone is so ready to throw in the towel to the NWO as you are. The current system may be bad, but I'm thinking that it could get much worse. I personally don't believe in a free lunch nor do I believe that central planning works.

Jim Puplava did an excellent (although depressing) broadcast piece on the upcoming North American Union. It was more detailed than anything I had heard before. Do yourself a favor and spend a few minutes listening to this. Our C- Span friend, Robert Pastor, turns out being a much bigger player in the Council of Foreign Relations' brave new world than he likes to take credit for. Ha.

Here's a link. Use the timer slide to start at 47 minutes.

The Big Picture with Jim Puplava

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   19:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Arete (#22)

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   19:59:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Arete (#22)

I would hope that not everyone is so ready to throw in the towel to the NWO as you are. The current system may be bad, but I'm thinking that it could get much worse. I personally don't believe in a free lunch nor do I believe that central planning works.

I'm not throwing in the towel. Don't think I am, though maybe it depends on how you define that. But I am pessimistic.

On the other hand, I also agree central planning doesn't work, and the more planning is done / economic control forced, the greater the failure. If you think having the dollar go to zero is the solution, you might find it go faster with the ushering in of greater monetary control.

Maybe??

Reminds me of one radio host. Believed the US was beyond saving so favored the restoration of the republic by promoting about the inevitable collapse as soon as possible. His reasoning: Why draw it out into a long painful death? Make it quick and build something new from the ashes.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   20:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Neil McIver (#21)

Or maybe these PTB's are desperate.

They will only get desperate if things don't go according to how they have them scriped. The center of the economic universe is shifting to Asia. That means either we become someone's bitch client state as England had to do after WWII when they lost economic power to us, or we take our medicine, as bitter as it may be, and take back our country. Since neither of those options is on the table or unacceptable, we're going to have to merge. Taking back our country,of course, would mean a depression and much hardship so I guess it all boils down to how much you value real freedom and deomocracy, not the economic slavery type the ruling class keeps handing us.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   20:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Neil McIver (#24)

Believed the US was beyond saving so favored the restoration of the republic by promoting about the inevitable collapse as soon as possible. His reasoning: Why draw it out into a long painful death? Make it quick and build something new from the ashes.

There are some good arguments that delaying the end will only make the eventual pain much much worse. First rule of getting out of a hole - stop digging.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   20:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#23)

Wow, it that ever strange.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   20:11:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Arete (#27)

That was from Fritz Springmier's web page. He wrote the book "Bloodlines of the Illuminati" and about 5 years ago he was thrown in jail by the bankers.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   20:19:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#23)

That is VERY interesting when you consider that we are to be merged with Mexico and Canada by the year...2010.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-08-08   20:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: who knows what evil (#29)

http://fritz- springmeier.dbs2000ad.com

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   20:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: All, *unUsual Suspects* (#1)

Brave NWO ping to the unUsual Suspects

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   20:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#28)

he was thrown in jail by the bankers.

Surprised that he wasn't found hanging under a bridge.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   20:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Arete (#32)

pro haven't found the proper bridge yet

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   20:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#30)

Way too many stories like this out there...thanks for the link.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-08-08   20:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: who knows what evil (#34)

WATCH: Bill Moyers' "The Secret Government" video segment>>

http://www.peace.ca/moyersvideo.htm

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-08   20:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#5)

That's not even a joke, that's reality.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-08   20:49:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Arete (#25)

Living in Ecuador has given me a chance to view things from the "outside". There're a lot of poor people here. Labor is quite cheap but there's no real manufacturing sector that I'm aware of.

I think what created the massive US trade deficit was the fact that the dollar has been the worlds reserve currency. The American consumer has been the beneficiary of this arrangement, as they simply borrow money and spend it without having to work for it. No suprise there.

But one observation I've had here is that this trade deficit does not just impact the balance books of the United States. It also has a negative impact on developing countries because goods made in Asia and elsewhere which could raise the standard of living here are instead diverted to the USA. Because that reduces supplies of such goods here, those goods are more expensive than they should be, and fewer people are able to buy them.

The massive US Trade deficit therefore, which is caused by the dollar being the world reserve currency, has the secondary impact of reducing the standard of living in developing countries.

When I hear of illegals going to the USA to work, arguably those illegals do have somewhat of a beef, that being that the American workers/consumers have been looting the world through the spending of a bogus dollar, and they feel entitled to a piece of this pirating action.

This is all about what happens when one currency is made into a reserve currency. I think any currency made into a new reserve currency whether it be the euro or americano or whatever will eventually (or maybe immediately) begin suffering a massive trade deficit as the USA has done.

The only way out is making gold the reserve. (This might be somewhat off topic, but an observation I've made here re: dollar).

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   20:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Arete (#25)

That means either we become someone's bitch client state as England had to do after WWII when they lost economic power to us...

Actually, we're still England's bitch.

They own us.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod  posted on  2006-08-08   21:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Neil McIver (#37)

I thought that the devaluing USD would be helping the exchange rates in foreign countries.

Not so?

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod  posted on  2006-08-08   21:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#35) (Edited)

"The Secret Government"

What I find funny is that all the right wingnuts still go nuts if you mention Hillary-Care. Just wait until they find out how badly their hero Bush has screwed them. Now that is going to be something.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   21:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lodwick (#39)

I thought that the devaluing USD would be helping the exchange rates in foreign countries.

That certainly is the consensus, and maybe it would. Others can comment on the economic mechanics better than me. I'm just pointing out that when one country runs a trade deficit like the US, it has an impact on other countries by shrinking the available supply of importable goods. That in turn makes a negative impact on the standard of living in those other countries.

When it's made possible by a fiat dollar that is backed by nothing, then I think it ceases to be commerce and instead becomes theft/piracy as it can go on indefinitely. What the fed does to us (the USA), the USA does to the world. That's what I'm seeing anyway.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-08   23:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Neil McIver (#41)

shrinking the available supply of importable goods.

You are right. Oil is a good example. Our borrowed money finances our oil usage and that drives up the prices for everyone else including countries that just don't have the kind of credit a reserve currency status gives us. The way we have been borrowing and spending, it shouldn't be long before countries with weaker economies and currencies get themselves into financial trouble trying to keep up. It happens every time we go into one of these inflationary war phases.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-08   23:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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