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Title: Presbyterian Church publishes 9/11 conspiracy theory
Source: Malaysian Sun
URL Source: http://story.malaysiasun.com/p.x/ct ... 630faf3631/id/7cca827f00576d2a
Published: Aug 8, 2006
Author: not stated
Post Date: 2006-08-09 17:34:38 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 179
Comments: 16

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.

In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the United States the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.

But after investigating he concluded that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, military personnel were given stand-down orders not to intercept hijacked flights and the 9/11 Commission, ostensibly created to uncover the truth behind the events of 9/11, 'simply ignored evidence' that the administration was involved in the attacks.

Griffin further asserts that such events such as that of 9/11 are part of a long history of 'false-flag attacks,' attacks orchestrated by governments against their own people to garner popular support for military action.

Griffin is a professor at California's Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University, and a codirector of the Center for Process Studies.

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#1. To: All, Arator, Kamala, who knows what evil, Horse, valis, Glenna (#0)

ping!

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine  posted on  2006-08-09   17:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

David Ray Griffin

He was interviewed by Tucker Carlson on MSNBC. He did very well. It's repeated at 6pm, est.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-09   17:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

He is as cool as a cucumber.

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-09   18:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#1)

http://www.journalof911studies.com/

There are some new papers published. Check out Ryans paper on the NIST report. Its outstanding.

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-09   18:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: , *9-11* (#0)

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-10   10:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine, innieway, Red Jones, Indie TX, robin (#0)

In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the "United States" the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.

'bout TIME the church recognized the enemy!

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec002.html#7

http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic004.html#10

http://www.blueletterbi ble.org/tsk_b/Psa/2/6.html

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/2Sa/7/10.html

Cross at Cape Henry

http://www.nps.gov/colo/ca peheny/capeheny.html

Lo. He comes. Prepare ye the way.

2Cr 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/2Cr/10/4.html

2Cr 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

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America, the united States vs. "The United States"

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev012.html#14

Cornwallis to George Washington: "A HOLY WAR will now begin against America......". Psalm 2.

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze017.html#9 / Matthew 15:13.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-12   11:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#0)

Griffin's views are well on the way to becoming received opinion. If the American public becomes convinced of what he is saying, I don't think there's any way to avoid prosecution of the leading figures of the Bush administration.

aristeides  posted on  2006-08-12   11:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the "United States" the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.

'bout TIME the church recognized the enemy!

It is. Like Griffin, most of us initially scoffed at 9/11 conpiracy theories.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-12   11:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#8)

Like Griffin, most of us initially scoffed at 9/11 conpiracy theories.

I didn't scoff at 911 conspiracy theories, because I already knew beforehand that 911 was coming. However, even though I was standing in front of the TV watching the two towers burn, it wasn't until I heard the plane/missile on its way to the Pentagon that it hit me that the "theory" had become fact. However, I am ashamed to admit I was part of the apostate church at the time, and didn't understand who was behind it.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-12   12:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9)

Several on this forum were ahead of the curve, like yourself. But I think most of us were deaf and blind at first.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-12   12:09:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#10)

I would rather have been deaf and blind in the first part, rather than the latter. I can only thank God that He didn't leave me in the pit wherein is no water.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-12   12:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

David Ray Griffin calls the "United States" the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power

'bout TIME the church recognized the enemy!

Absolutely.. Well, the US and her cohort in crime - Israel.

Surgeon General's Warning: Society's problems must be solved. We have the solutions and you must buy them from us. No unauthorized solutions will be permitted.

Le Liban Restera

innieway  posted on  2006-08-12   12:55:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: innieway (#12)

the US and her cohort in crime - Israel.

Two heads, same bird of prey:

See America vs. "The United States" [above] again.

2 Sam. 7:10. Ezekiel 34:11-13. John 10.

As Cornwallis said to George Washington, "a HOLY WAR [Psalm 2] will now begin against America....in 200 years, her churches will be teaching the Jews' religion..."

http://www.sweetliberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution19.htm

It actually started long before that, IMO, with the establishment of the Plymouth Colony, [a lot of cryptoJews], if not before even that.

Now, "The United States" is NOT America. The United States is a private corporation of the MONEYCHANGERS et al.

[The United States Isn't a Country; It's a Corporation! by Lisa Guliani http://www.worldnewsstand.net/history/U.S.Corp.htm ].

The Ultimate Delusion: by Stephen Ames. .. It explains how the Babylonian Talmud became the law of the land, ... http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/ultimate_delusion.htm

Jesus told us TO BEWARE of the leaven of the Pharisees. See Luke 13:18-20. It's all come to pass.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-08-12   14:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#13)

Jesus told us TO BEWARE of the leaven of the Pharisees. See Luke 13:18-20. It's all come to pass.

I had just re-read that particular Scripture a little earlier this morning when looking up another one I was quoting in another thread...

It has come to pass... As well as 2 Timothy 3:1-5 Talk about a DEAD ON description of these times!!!

You are exactly right my friend - these bastards are the descendants of the Babylonians, the sons of perdition, their father is Satan, and they do their father's works... Only a small percentage of what we call "jews" are descendants of Judah, the rest are the ones we were told about in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 - those who call themselves jews and are not - and it's that large percentage (Ashkenazi and Sephardic jews), the "identity thieves" that are the ones we were warned about in Luke 13, and are wreaking havoc in the world..

And yes, the US is no longer a sovereign nation, but rather a corporation; and most of us (but not ALL) are it's "employees", bound not by what once was our constitution, but rather by corporate charter. That is why everyone should get out of the "system"!!! Time may be running out!!!

Revelations 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Surgeon General's Warning: Society's problems must be solved. We have the solutions and you must buy them from us. No unauthorized solutions will be permitted.

Le Liban Restera

innieway  posted on  2006-08-12   14:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#0)

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

Perhaps there is hope...a glimmer. I'm saving up wine for the day when all of the demonic treasonous minions swing.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-12   15:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: innieway (#14)

And yes, the US is no longer a sovereign nation, but rather a corporation; and most of us (but not ALL) are it's "employees", bound not by what once was our constitution, but rather by corporate charter. That is why everyone should get out of the "system"!!! Time may be running out!!!

Revelations 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Spot on!


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-12   15:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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