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Title: 'Airlines terror plot' disrupted
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4778575.stm
Published: Aug 10, 2006
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2006-08-10 08:48:49 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 5407
Comments: 137

A plot to blow up planes in flight from the UK to the US and commit "mass murder on an unimaginable scale" has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said. It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled in hand luggage on to as many as 10 aircraft.

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Poster Comment:

The "plot" was that they would carry liquids aboard, mix them in flight, then detonate them.

Joe Lieberman, where are you when we need you???

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Doesn't sound like much of a plot, if you ask me.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-10   9:11:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Doesn't sound like much of a plot, if you ask me.

It smells to me.

I read small note on this subject that all people were "homegrown" Brits.

Somehow I do not think the bad guys would trust such aa affair to "foreigners".

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-10   9:16:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

OK, Joe Lieberman loses on Tuesday, and the "terrorists" are going to blow us up on Thursday. Sure....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-10   9:38:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank G-d no Jews were targeted on this lastest Jihad on Jewish supremacy...but should distract us away from Hizzbollah mopping the floor with the IDF.

Eoghan  posted on  2006-08-10   9:43:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

...but should distract us away from Hizzbollah mopping the floor with the IDF...

A more interesting side query to that comment is how the hell did Hezbollah all of the sudden come up with what to all outside appearances seems to be the best fighting force fielded by Islamics since Saladin?

Typically, Islamic forces (somewhat excepting mountain people in Chechnya and Afghanistan) have always displayed indifference to anything resembling logical strategic and tactical doctrine when engaging western forces (If you want to see the most ridiculous example of this there is some after action reporting by the Pakistani military on their second war with India that reads like a comedy from a military doctrine standpoint. So and so displeased Allah by partaking in spirits and women and was therefore defeated etc...). More often than not, local victory was won through incompetence of the opposition, or the propensity of the Islamic side to perservere without thought to the cost in materials or bodies.

All of the sudden you have a force of several brigades size that is innovative, doesn't waste lives, and knows how to put limited resources to maximum use. They particularly appear to show an enhanced ability to operate with a high level of initiative and autonomy in small units.

The politics of the conflict aside, I've always thought that constant low grade warfare without conclusion (which I believe is fostered by international finacial interests) was a very poor long term strategy for the western world because it exposes the opposition to exist under high intensity, long term, selective pressure that makes them better. We are probably seeing the results of this here.

The downside is that it is going to put pressure on the Israelis and the US to conclude conflicts with much greater levels of destruction and to definitely poke and prod Iran into doing something that allows us to pound them hard without suffering from public backlash...

Axenolith  posted on  2006-08-10   10:43:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The politics of the conflict aside, I've always thought that constant low grade warfare without conclusion (which I believe is fostered by international finacial interests) was a very poor long term strategy for the western world because it exposes the opposition to exist under high intensity, long term, selective pressure that makes them better. We are probably seeing the results of this here.

This is exactly what caused the Israelis to withdraw from Lebanon in 2000 after 18 years of occupation.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-10   11:57:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You catch this?

Military dissatisfaction with government in Israel (Coup mentioned)

Axenolith  posted on  2006-08-10   19:28:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You catch this?

Military dissatisfaction with government in Israel (Coup mentioned)

No, but I did see that there was a shakeup of the top commanders with Halutz handing his contol of the Lebanon operation at the Northern Command to Deputy Chief of Staff Maj. Gen. Moshe Kaplinsky of the elite Golani Brigade.

According to these officers, Olmert was presented with an assiduously prepared and detailed operational plan for the defeat and destruction of Hezbollah within 10-14 days, which the IDF has been formulating for the past 2-3 years.

I do not find this surprising at all since it is now a factual repsresentation that the Zionists have been planning an assault on Lebanon for some time. Especially considering the withdrawal of Syrian forces after the assassination of Hariri last year.

It looks as if Olmert has committed the same sins as many other civilian leaderships (think Johnson & McNamara and now Bush, Cheney & Rummy) in other military fiascos and not allowing the military to do the job they know how to do. We could add to that list Truman when he fired MacArthur.

These wars were never intended to be won, merely to grind down the military. It is worse now than ever before with the neocon and Zionist influences at their highest points ever with Bush taking office in 2001.

Olmert's responsibility for inaction goes much further. The US administration had given Israel the green light to attack Syria. A senior military source has confirmed to Israel Insider that Israel did indeed receive a green light from Washington in this regard, but Olmert nixed it.

The scenario was that Syria, no military match for Israel, would face a rapid defeat, forcing it to run to Iran, with which it has a defense pact, to come to aid.

Iran, which would be significantly contained by the defeat of its sole ally in the region, would have found itself maneuvered between a rock and a hard place. If it chose to honor its commitment to Syria, it would face a war with Israel and the US, both with military capabilities far superior to Iran's. If Teheran opted to default on its commitment to Damascus, it would be construed by the entire region, including the restless Iranian population, as a conspicuous show of weakness by the regime. Fascist regimes such as that of the ayatollahs cannot easily afford to show that kind of weakness.

LOL And neither could the facist regime of the Zionists afford to show such weakness as Olmert has by changing the plan which was set. This explains the neocon's shrillness with the poor results of the IDF attacks. It's been the same old BS with them behaving like mad dogs with a blood lust for more killing.

I would say that if there is a terror attack of any size, it might just go off in Tel Aviv instead of some place else. The fact that this could appear as a coup d'etat instead of a WMD strike is within the realm of possibilities. Vaccilllation by the leader is an unpardonable sin (even for Dubya) in the eyes of the perps of 9-11. The war must continue and expand at all costs. This is why Bush had given the green light to expand the conflict to Syria in an effort to draw in Iran. He knows who not to cross or he might end up like JFK. Remember also that Olmert was small potatoes until Sharon tapped him for the number two spot. He is expendable just as so many others.

I've been saying for some time that the only way there would be another big attack on U.S. soil is if Bush wavers and starts to make peace initiatives. It looks like it is Olmert who has screwed up instead and now will be forced into a position which will literally put the Israelis back to square one and the plan to expand the war to Syria and Iran on indefinite hold.

Bush held out longer than he should have to give the IDF a chance to overcome its poor strategic position and now will have to try to achieve a diplomatic (Only Bolton could ram thru something which would enrage the Lebanese and the rest of the Arabs; Condi is a non-factor.) resolution that will still give the Zionists a few crumbs. But that will lead to further political instability in the years to come.

Thanks for the tip. This clears up quite a few things.

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