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Title: 'Airlines terror plot' disrupted
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BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4778575.stm
Published: Aug 10, 2006
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2006-08-10 08:48:49 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 1262
Comments: 137
A plot to blow up planes in flight from the UK to the US and commit "mass murder on an unimaginable scale" has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said. It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled in hand luggage on to as many as 10 aircraft. - Snip
Poster Comment: The "plot" was that they would carry liquids aboard, mix them in flight, then detonate them. Joe Lieberman, where are you when we need you???
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#97. To: lodwick (#92)
Twofers, eh?
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This event seems designed to cover a lot of territory. Nov elections, Blair, the economy, Lebanon, Iraq, Lieberman - lots of reasons for pulling a terrorist rabbit out of the hat now. Just remember that the more desperate the fascists become, the more dangerous they are. Killing off serfs means nothing to them. Richard W.
Making the world a better place by ridding it of we useless feeders. Totally amazing times in which we find ourselves.
Richard W.
Saftest bet to and from Europe is fly Icelandic airlines. Cheaper, better service and odds are in your favore that you will arrive alive.
HAPPY FLYING, EVERYONE!!! Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:48:05 -0400 From: "Paula Bonstein" Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert To: "Paula Bonstein" Subject: TSA - Alert to Passengers EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY By Order of the Department of Homeland Security Transportation Security Administration PASSENGERS MAY NOT HAVE LIQUIDS OR GELS OF ANY SIZE AT THE SCREENING CHECKPOINT OR IN THE CABIN OF THE AIRCRAFT Not permitted are: Beverages, shampoo, suntan lotion, creams, toothpaste, hair gel, and other items of similar consistency. Such items may be transported in checked baggage. Permitted are: Passengers traveling with infants or small children may carry on baby formula or breast milk. Prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger’s ticket. Insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines. Beverages purchased in the sterile area must be consumed before boarding the aircraft. Please allow extra time for check-in due to enhanced security measures. Check with your airline for further information.
Funny you should say that, my folks just took off yesterday from BWI Icelandic air for the Norwegian cruise.
Actually, I said that from years of working at Kennedy. Many of us working for the government back many years ago had an excellent opinion of Icelandic. Excellent maintenance, good service and not attuned to herd mentality of a cattle drive. Last I knew they still were flying humans, not cattle. Tell Mom and Dad they made an excellent choice, for MANY reasons. Hint, never fly Iberia, Alitalia and such. Never.
Hey Cyni. Is there any truth to the rumor that you were manning the control tower when Wilbur and Orville blasted off?
Ugly, vicious rumor. I did however have a friend long ago whose pilots licence was signed by one of the Wright brothers.
Actually I imagine that all the pervs, pedophiles and Trotsky CommunNAZIs amongst the Neo Cons are getting hardies and playing strip SKAT over what they will be able to do with our freedoms with this current "terror alert". (For those not familiar with world card games and playing card history Skat is a card game of German origin based on the Point Trick principle of card play.)
That is because Walker was not a "mainstream" conservative. He was a John Bircher and an early proponant of the Conspiracy Theory of History.
Military dissatisfaction with government in Israel (Coup mentioned)
"To wield onself -- to use oneself as a tool in one's own hand -- and so to make or break that which no one else can build or ruin -- THAT is the greatest pleasure known to man! To one who has felt the chisel in his hand and set free the angel prisoned in the marble block, or to one who has felt sword in hand and set homeless the soul that a moment before lived in the body of his mortal enemy -- to those both come alike the taste of that rare food spread only for demons or for gods." -- Gordon R. Dickson, "Soldier Ask Not"
Michael changed his mind and wouldn't come out to play so he had to be hauled out through the sun roof :P
love ruthie Military dissatisfaction with government in Israel (Coup mentioned) No, but I did see that there was a shakeup of the top commanders with Halutz handing his contol of the Lebanon operation at the Northern Command to Deputy Chief of Staff Maj. Gen. Moshe Kaplinsky of the elite Golani Brigade. I do not find this surprising at all since it is now a factual repsresentation that the Zionists have been planning an assault on Lebanon for some time. Especially considering the withdrawal of Syrian forces after the assassination of Hariri last year. It looks as if Olmert has committed the same sins as many other civilian leaderships (think Johnson & McNamara and now Bush, Cheney & Rummy) in other military fiascos and not allowing the military to do the job they know how to do. We could add to that list Truman when he fired MacArthur. These wars were never intended to be won, merely to grind down the military. It is worse now than ever before with the neocon and Zionist influences at their highest points ever with Bush taking office in 2001. The scenario was that Syria, no military match for Israel, would face a rapid defeat, forcing it to run to Iran, with which it has a defense pact, to come to aid. Iran, which would be significantly contained by the defeat of its sole ally in the region, would have found itself maneuvered between a rock and a hard place. If it chose to honor its commitment to Syria, it would face a war with Israel and the US, both with military capabilities far superior to Iran's. If Teheran opted to default on its commitment to Damascus, it would be construed by the entire region, including the restless Iranian population, as a conspicuous show of weakness by the regime. Fascist regimes such as that of the ayatollahs cannot easily afford to show that kind of weakness. LOL And neither could the facist regime of the Zionists afford to show such weakness as Olmert has by changing the plan which was set. This explains the neocon's shrillness with the poor results of the IDF attacks. It's been the same old BS with them behaving like mad dogs with a blood lust for more killing. I would say that if there is a terror attack of any size, it might just go off in Tel Aviv instead of some place else. The fact that this could appear as a coup d'etat instead of a WMD strike is within the realm of possibilities. Vaccilllation by the leader is an unpardonable sin (even for Dubya) in the eyes of the perps of 9-11. The war must continue and expand at all costs. This is why Bush had given the green light to expand the conflict to Syria in an effort to draw in Iran. He knows who not to cross or he might end up like JFK. Remember also that Olmert was small potatoes until Sharon tapped him for the number two spot. He is expendable just as so many others. I've been saying for some time that the only way there would be another big attack on U.S. soil is if Bush wavers and starts to make peace initiatives. It looks like it is Olmert who has screwed up instead and now will be forced into a position which will literally put the Israelis back to square one and the plan to expand the war to Syria and Iran on indefinite hold. Bush held out longer than he should have to give the IDF a chance to overcome its poor strategic position and now will have to try to achieve a diplomatic (Only Bolton could ram thru something which would enrage the Lebanese and the rest of the Arabs; Condi is a non-factor.) resolution that will still give the Zionists a few crumbs. But that will lead to further political instability in the years to come. Thanks for the tip. This clears up quite a few things.
"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Check out the link in #110.
Remarkable stuff. The Hez already won to a large degree.
thank you both for your kind words :) i'm using the Aloe and its very soothing. even if the scar is still visible, i've got nothing to be ashamed of because it was made for a very good reason :)
love ruthie Thx for the url, Jim.
You're welcome. That's what friends are for. imo.
"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon
It really works. Good advice!
gonzales 'I don't know if my grandparents were legal or not' gonzales sure looks like he's having a great time, doesn't he! Dirty rotten low down bastard.
chertoff is sure a weird looking bastard. I trust him about half the width of the finest microned baby mohair ever recorded.
chertoff is sure a weird looking bastard. I trust him about half the width of the finest microned baby mohair ever recorded. They're both what we would call "needle dicks" back in the neighborhood.
"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon
Hi dee - I guess I just lost track of what was going on - actually I've heard that the terror nonsense was generated by Blair's political problems in the UK - that's why it happened over there. The Lieberman thing probably played a part as well. Obviously there was no immediate threat (on that day) so they did obviously time it for a purpose. I just wish people wouldn't be taken in by this nonsense. Personally I don't know when I'm ever going to fly again - it's becoming far too inconvenient, and who the hell knows if you're gonna get blown up or shot with a missile. Not worth it.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
"In contrast to previous reports, the official suggested an attack was not imminent, saying the suspects had not yet purchased any airline tickets. In fact, some did not even have passports." The source did say, however, that police believe one U.K.-based suspect was ready to conduct a "dry run." British authorities had wanted to let him go forward with part of the plan, but the Americans balked" Yeah, sure. (Don't forget comrades, it is the first initial news mantra repeated and repeated and repeated and repeated which sinks most into the minds of the masses and creates the general mindset we wish to introduce. What comes afterwards is irrelevant to most people and we can easily dilute disinfo with that to discredit it. ; ) ) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14320452/
I'm with you re flying............but have been that way for a loooonnnnnng time. It's been a few years now since my quite elderly dad flew back to the midwest for family visits. I think 2000 was his last one back. And, of course, 911 would have finished it off--September was always when he went back. Anyhow, it's a 3-1/2 hour trip to the airport from here. And to think they want passengers there 2 hours ahead--presumably to just sit around or stand around til flight time--really put a kibosh to it. Topping that, of course, was that, while I could drop him off in the unloading zone, he would have to stand there until I could circle around the damned parking area, to where you could short term park, and then walk about 1/2 mile back to the unloading zone. It's one thing to be a 30 year old man or woman and do this.........it's something else to expect a 90 year old, who needs a walker, to do this. I never cared for flying myself....my husband always thought it was great. He even liked helicopters. I was always as nervous as a whore in church when I flew. Guess that goes back to the 1950s when my grandmother, bless her heart, missed her flight...........it crashed over/around the Grand Canyon.
I almost crashed once - we lost one engine and the other was going out. we emergency landed at Dover Airforce base. Funny thing is - I KNEW that the engine was going to go out. I just had that feeling, and sure enough. I don't expect to be flying anywhere for many many years. I just won't put up with it. There's nothing I want to see that bad. This security stuff is nonsense. You know, for all the raving they've been doing over the past week about terror plots to mix various ordinary household liquids into bombs aboard planes, I have yet to see anyone who can actually tell me if it's actually POSSIBLE to do this stuff. Make bombs out of peroxide and nail polish remover and igniting them with MP3 players? This all sounds crazy to me. Of course we can see that the timing was rigged, but I have to question the basic premise. Is there anyone here with sufficient chemical knowledge to say whether this stuff is even possible? Sounds like a bunch of horseshit to me. I guess if you try to look it up on the web though, they can make out you're some kind of terrorist for trying to look up "recipes"...
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Between the eventual rising price of gasoline (Alaska/Iran or just plain greed), and the misery of waiting for hours in an airport (just to have all your cosmetics thrown into a bin for someone else to sell), they are either telling us to stay home or ride trains/ships/horses. I'll probably stay home too.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers I guess George "the Worst President Ever" Bush is trying to revive some old American traditions....like covered wagons. Seriously I wish we could get some non-govt chemical expert talking about this stuff. I don't doubt that some compounds could be dangerous or even explosive, but I'm wondering how practical it is to mix little bottles on a plane (even in that wee john) and get a sufficient reaction to blow up the plane? How much chemicals are we talking? An explosion might cause some minor damange, but I don't see taking down the whole plane unless you get into the cock pit. I think this is the case of taking a small bit of truth and stretching it like stretch pants on a 400 lb woman. The coverage is thin and reality keeps sticking out.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
lol!
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers I'm with ya, mehitable. I forgot to mention the grope and paw bullshit that I refuse to be a party to at the airports. And the last time my Dad flew, there was the usual 'no unticketed people' beyond this line--meaning you couldn't go all the way to the gate to see your loved one/whomever off. Well, my Dad uses a wheelchair once we get inside a terminal (otherwise, we'd be late for everything :)) The past times I've taken him to the airport, there was airport personnel who would take the wheelchair up thru the elevator system to the second level and see that he got on the plane. The last time, however, while they indicated someone would take him up, in no time they said I could take him up. So I did.............and once at the second level, we went over and sat down. Before the flight started loading, I went to the person behind the gate and told them my father would need to be loaded early or late, etc. I was questioned as to why I was there. And then in no time, someone else came up and said that I could stay with him and actually push his wheelchair right up to the loading ramp walkway. Who the hell can deal with this 'now you can" or 'now you can't" bullshit! And what is so stupid about this is that the whole county where the airport is couldn't have had more than 100,000 people...one of the biggest in Montana! Really, really stupid.
There are so many things to be seen within a short driving span. I know when I lived in California, I used to take a map and mark all the places I'd love to see......geeze, just the old Missions could take a year or so. I've never even had the desire to go to Hawaii or Alaska either. Most of the eastern seaboard states don't interest me (hint, hint NY!) I have a cousin in California who has spent the past 5 - 6 years (since they got married) on the road. They have a fantastic motor coach and pull a Jeep behind them. All they've done is gone state to state to state. They stop and stay as long as they want, and then go on. This is their last year of this lifestyle as they are in the process of building a home now. They're not getting rid of the rigs, though, because they still want to travel. It appears Hawaii is out because they can't drive there! LOL.....
We started to do that several years ago. A lot of fun. At San Juan Bautista, a lovely spot, we learned that the Padres used mustard seed to "mark" El Camino Real. Cool idea, no? Lucky cousin. Camping along the way would make these fun outings more affordable. My aunt/uncle enjoyed the state park system while they were able.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Cousin and hubby came up here last year. Seems like they check in at the old homestead physically once a year--get their physicals, blah blah blah, and then head right back out. With cell phones, internet access, banking online and bill paying, a friend to check their mail, they quickly head out for something like a 2 week stay along the Colorado. Been doing it long enough, they have developed sets of friends who do this same sort of thing. From the way she talked, it is a real hoot. And being able to stay as long as you want in an area in order to really see it and get a feel for the area and the people really adds to it. Like I said, their motor coach is like home....washer and dryer to boot! And they have a dalmation dog traveling with them. She said they prefer to stay at area grounds rather than at family homesteads...that way they can visit and also 'see' the area like they want to, without imposing or worrying about being nuisances. This was really comfortable for me, too, because it had been many, many, many years (like about 40+/-)since I last saw her. I woulda been content to have lived that way back after the girls got out of school. Gene and I had loved traveling and had always wanted to travel at that time. But then, with the ranch and livestock, and him having to go on dialysis, lifes' desires changed....
Re the Missions..........that was interesting about the mustard seeds. I used to live several miles from the mission at San Fernando--drove past it lots of times, but never stopped and viewed it. That was during my growing up years, and I guess the parents never thought it important. However, I was a voracious reader back then and read just about everything I could about the Missions. I'd still love to be able to follow El Camino Real from the mexican border to Frisco........however, it would probably have to be done using a chopper because I couldn't stand to be around all the zillions of people all over so-cal now. Crowds really bother, and that traffic! Forget about it. Always blew me away to read about all the leather hides, like from Mission San Gabriel, that were loaded on shipped to be taken away for tanning.
Oh my! I think my next vacation will be close to home with a few good books; travel books ;P
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers You may well have a better travel experience that way, than via other modes. :) Cheers.
#98. To: rowdee. aloe vera fans here (#95)
Aloe Vera is great for scars, too. My daughter, when in college, had a really bad burn on the inside of her wrist from a restaurant accident. Very raw, ugly. Doctors didn't want anything on it.......but she used Aloe Vera, and you can't see the dang thing.
#99. To: lodwick (#96)
it would be most interesting to know who calls the shot on where these "incidents" occur
#100. To: Arete (#99)
Just remember that the more desperate the fascists become, the more dangerous they are. Killing off serfs means nothing to them.
#101. To: lodwick (#100)
#102. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
A plot to blow up planes in flight from the UK to the US
#103. To: Cynicom, all (#102)
I just received this from Lehigh Valley International Airport
#104. To: Cynicom (#102)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#105. To: Eoghan (#104)
Funny you should say that, my folks just took off yesterday from BWI Icelandic air for the Norwegian cruise.
#106. To: Cynicom (#105)
#107. To: Jethro Tull (#106)
Wilbur and Orville blasted off?
#108. To: ruthie (#42)
#109. To: Cynicom (#62)
#110. To: BTP Holdings, all (#37)
You catch this?
#111. To: christine (#44)
you had to have a c-section?
XXXXXX
http://www.myspace.com/ruthiesb69
#112. To: Axenolith (#110)
You catch this?
According to these officers, Olmert was presented with an assiduously prepared and detailed operational plan for the defeat and destruction of Hezbollah within 10-14 days, which the IDF has been formulating for the past 2-3 years.
Olmert's responsibility for inaction goes much further. The US administration had given Israel the green light to attack Syria. A senior military source has confirmed to Israel Insider that Israel did indeed receive a green light from Washington in this regard, but Olmert nixed it.
#113. To: robin (#26)
Terror Plot Has Marks of Al-Qaeda, Chertoff Says
#114. To: Axenolith, christine, zipporah, robin, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, lodwick, ALL (#110)
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint
#115. To: Esso (#114)
#116. To: rowdee, HOUNDDAWG (#95)
Aloe Vera is great for scars, too.
XXXXXX
http://www.myspace.com/ruthiesb69
#117. To: lodwick (#98)
#118. To: rowdee (#117)
Thx for the url, Jim.
#119. To: Critter (#113)
Terror Plot Has Marks of Al-Qaeda, Chertoff Says
#120. To: rowdee (#95)
Aloe Vera is great for scars, too. My daughter, when in college, had a really bad burn on the inside of her wrist from a restaurant accident. Very raw, ugly. Doctors didn't want anything on it.......but she used Aloe Vera, and you can't see the dang thing.
#121. To: BTP Holdings (#119)
#122. To: BTP Holdings (#119)
#123. To: rowdee (#122)
gonzales 'I don't know if my grandparents were legal or not' gonzales sure looks like he's having a great time, doesn't he! Dirty rotten low down bastard.
#124. To: rowdee (#89)
#125. To: All (#124)
#126. To: mehitable (#124)
#127. To: rowdee, all (#126)
(Edited)
#128. To: rowdee, mehitable (#126)
#129. To: robin (#128)
#130. To: mehitable (#129)
I think this is the case of taking a small bit of truth and stretching it like stretch pants on a 400 lb woman. The coverage is thin and reality keeps sticking out.
#131. To: mehitable (#127)
#132. To: robin (#128)
#133. To: rowdee (#132)
just the old Missions could take a year or so.
#134. To: robin (#133)
#135. To: robin (#133)
#136. To: rowdee (#134)
washer and dryer to boot!
#137. To: robin (#136)
think my next vacation will be close to home with a few good books; travel books ;P
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