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Title: 'Airlines terror plot' disrupted
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4778575.stm
Published: Aug 10, 2006
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2006-08-10 08:48:49 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 1274
Comments: 137

A plot to blow up planes in flight from the UK to the US and commit "mass murder on an unimaginable scale" has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said. It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled in hand luggage on to as many as 10 aircraft.

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Poster Comment:

The "plot" was that they would carry liquids aboard, mix them in flight, then detonate them.

Joe Lieberman, where are you when we need you???

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#41. To: Jethro Tull, all (#0)

See this post for more details on the FUBAR situation at US airports and the domestic threat level going to orange.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32208&Disp=1#C1

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--William Kingdon Clifford

IndieTX posted on 2006-08-10 12:05:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#42. To: BTP Holdings (#39)

I'll raise you two knaves. ;0)

umm, is this strip poker we're playing? you might regret winning if you've ever seen a recently pregnant post-caesarian female ;)

"be afraid, be very afraid" lol

love

ruthie
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http://www.myspace.com/ruthiesb69

ruthie posted on 2006-08-10 12:05:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#43. To: mehitable, christine, IndieTX, robin, eoghan, all (#34)

Me, we’re entering the biggest ball of shit this country has ever seen. These sobs are NOT going to allow the wheels to fall off their war wagon. NOTHING is beneath them so it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to suggest that martial law is but a terrorist attack away. It’s time to consider how we resist as individual sovereign Americans.

Jethro Tull posted on 2006-08-10 12:13:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#44. To: ruthie (#42)

you had to have a c-section?

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine posted on 2006-08-10 12:17:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#45. To: Jethro Tull (#43)

martial law is but a terrorist attack away.

Jethro...

As an ex LEO, do you recall from "Patriot Edict" that there was once a reference that in "need" HSA could take control of any and all law enforecement agencies????

I recall it from the past but do not remember if is still part of the act or not.

Cynicom posted on 2006-08-10 12:17:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#46. To: All--Anyone who can, turn on Alex Jones right now (#44)

http://www.gcnlive.com

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine posted on 2006-08-10 12:20:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#47. To: Cynicom (#45)

...HSA could take control of any and all law enforecement agencies????
I recall it from the past but do not remember if is still part of the act or not.

I seriously doubt if that's something they would cut out.

Surgeon General's Warning: Society's problems must be solved. We have the solutions and you must buy them from us. No unauthorized solutions will be permitted.

Le Liban Restera

innieway posted on 2006-08-10 12:23:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#48. To: christine (#46)

OK just turned it on......waiting for commercials... :(

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IndieTX posted on 2006-08-10 12:25:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#49. To: christine, ruthie (#44)

There is a real trend toward c-sections. It's so convenient for the doctors, they're scheduled and there are fewer complications apparently.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin posted on 2006-08-10 12:26:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#50. To: Jethro Tull, all (#43)

The sheople have now been warned, scared, reminded, conditioned....FALSE FLAG II ATTACK IS NEXT. Martial Law to follow.

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IndieTX posted on 2006-08-10 12:26:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#51. To: Cynicom (#45)

Cyni, I’m not aware of any dictate that would allow the HSA to seize control of the nations PDs, but I’m not sure such legality is necessary. Today, local PDs are so intertwined with central government that I’m sure any police commissioner would willingly cede their authority to a Chertoff goon upon request.

Jethro Tull posted on 2006-08-10 12:32:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#52. To: christine. AJ (#46)

Listening bump.

Just saw smirk trying to say something - he could barely get it out.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 12:34:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#53. To: IndieTX, all - Turn on AJ (#50)

http://www.gcnlive.com

IndieTX, Jones is nailing the issue.....

Jethro Tull posted on 2006-08-10 12:34:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#54. To: ruthie (#42)

umm, is this strip poker we're playing? you might regret winning if you've ever seen a recently pregnant post-caesarian female ;)
"be afraid, be very afraid" lol

Poor thing. It's been a long while since I've seen some real flesh. I'll take me chances. ;0)

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain

BTP Holdings posted on 2006-08-10 12:37:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#55. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

dictate that would allow the HSA t

The proposal was there once, buried in some agency protocol.

I will have to look around.

Cynicom posted on 2006-08-10 12:37:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#56. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

I fear he's going to explode on air one day.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 12:39:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#57. To: lodwick (#52)

Just saw smirk trying to say something - he could barely get it out.

that doesn't bode well for us....

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine posted on 2006-08-10 12:46:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#58. To: Mad men at the helm (#52)

Jethro Tull posted on 2006-08-10 12:56:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#59. To: lodwick (#56)

I fear he's going to explode on air one day.

It's a good thing he's 30-something. Once one becomes AARP eligible, arteries and veins tend to blow when high pressure is introduced. .

Jethro Tull posted on 2006-08-10 12:59:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

Man. What a powerful video...
Thanks for posting it.

I've said it before, but, to me, America as I thought I knew it, was murdered in Dealey Plaza.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 13:11:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#61. To: lodwick (#60)

Dealey Plaza.

That day in November is imprinted in my circuitry. I was in HS in what now seems like a different country.

Jethro Tull posted on 2006-08-10 13:15:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#62. To: lodwick (#60)

America as I thought I knew it, was murdered in Dealey Plaza.

MSM rarely mentions that Oswald tried to assassinate General Edward Walker and got away with it.

Walker was conservative so no one cared.

Cynicom posted on 2006-08-10 13:23:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#63. To: Jethro Tull, all (#53)

Interviews on the local news with pasengers at DFW. One lady said "I'd rather give up my things [freedom] than have something happen."

Baaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!

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IndieTX posted on 2006-08-10 13:32:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#64. To: Jethro Tull (#61)

That day in November is imprinted in my circuitry. I was in HS in what now seems like a different country.

I was a sophmore, returning from lunch at a local mom & pop 'burger joint, with Rose, Camille, and Susan in my '50 Merc when the news broke on the rock&roll AM radio station from Dallas - forty miles away.

That day and 9.11, in my life-time, are some of the satanists biggest hits; and they could very well top that in the near future.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 13:33:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#65. To: Axenolith (#29)

(If you want to see the most ridiculous example of this there is some after action reporting by the Pakistani military on their second war with India that reads like a comedy from a military doctrine standpoint. So and so displeased Allah by partaking in spirits and women and was therefore defeated etc...).

I've got to find that after action report! That sounds hysterical.

I think that you're correct on the weeding out process that has gone on. Over the past 15 years, there have been many places that potential guerilla (I'll use that as a catch-all term) leaders could have gone to train, between the former Yugoslavia, Chechnya (1994 and 1999-and they would learn a lot more 1999-present) Afghanistan and Iraq, plus the Israeli-Lebanon thing for 20 years. In all those places the state forces have used slightly different tactics, so if a leader was in two of them for a good length of time, they would gather a tremendous wealth of knowledge of what works.

There's been Chechens captured in Afghanistan by the US, and the Chechen websites have indicated sometimes that there are Chechen forces fighting all over hell to breakfast, so I don't think that it's too fare beyond the pale to believe that the current Hezbollah leadership hasn't experienced at least a few other places. If said leader fought against the Russians they would find out what worked against brute force applied liberally, and then if they also fought us in Iraq, they'd find out what works against technology and brute force applied liberally.

I've read most about Chechnya, and the tactics by the insurgency against us in Iraq (though Chechens are never insurgents or terrorists and Iraqis are never freedom fighters according to our official and press releases) and the Chechens have always been tenacious, creative and innovative in the way they do their operations. An interesting thing is that it appears that their operations performed a weeding out of sorts in the Russian Army, which has caused it to get more effective and seemingly to learn some lessons on what works and what doesn't, which is why Chechnya is a much more calm place than Iraq is right now. If Hezbollah has some leaders like Basayev in Lebanon, they would be a formidable force to deal with.

I'm also curious to know if the IDF has become a technology dependent force like we have, where initiative and creative thinking are strongly disuaded. I think that this is not the same IDF of a generation ago. Not actually engaging in actions such as they are created a mystique of invincibility that is now gone (so is ours). Their initial dependence on airpower alone (paging Gen Douhet yet again) which hasn't really been effective as a war stopper even though it's been tried nearly every conflict since 1920 (sure, the Luftwaffe can destroy the British at Dunkirk on their own) seems to indicate that they bought into the defense contractor's sales pitches about the effectiveness of the weapons they were buying.

historian1944 posted on 2006-08-10 13:34:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#66. To: IndieTX (#63)

One lady said "I'd rather give up my things [freedom] than have something happen."

and of course if someone like me or you were interviewed, it'd never be shown.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison

christine posted on 2006-08-10 13:37:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#67. To: IndieTX (#63)

One lady said "I'd rather give up my things [freedom] than have something happen."

Poor thing prolly thought she was talking about her bomber-hair gel, and other terrier items, but - you're correct, it's our FREEDOM that is being stolen from us day by wretched day.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 13:37:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#68. To: christine (#66)

I love mental telepathy.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 13:38:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#69. To: Cynicom (#62)

MSM rarely mentions that Oswald tried to assassinate General Edward Walker and got away with it.

Thanks - that one had fallen down into my memory hole.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 13:40:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#70. To: Jethro Tull (#43)

Unfortunately I think you're right, JT, and I'm not sure what Americans are going to do at that point. I think all we can do is tell our loved ones and try to plan for survival. I figure if we can get through the next 2 years, and then get rid of the Commander-in-Chimp, maybe things will simmuh down to a dull roar.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable posted on 2006-08-10 13:45:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#71. To: historian1944 (#65)

Their initial dependence on airpower alone (paging Gen Douhet yet again) which hasn't really been effective as a war stopper even though it's been tried nearly every conflict since 1920 (sure, the Luftwaffe can destroy the British at Dunkirk on their own) seems to indicate that they bought into the defense contractor's sales pitches about the effectiveness of the weapons they were buying.

Good information and post - thanks.

Unless you're crazy enough to play the nuke card, bombing has never proven to be the way to go.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 13:47:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#72. To: lodwick (#71)

Operation Bo-JINSA

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan posted on 2006-08-10 13:53:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#73. To: Eoghan. All (#72)

Yep - yet Condelusional, and others, are on record saying, "We had no idea that "they" might hijack planes and fly them into buildings."

It's all so transparent, when you finally wake up.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 14:04:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#74. To: ruthie, Zipporah, christine, Diana, rowdee, (#42)

And, BTW, Congratulations to you and hubby on the birth of your son!

I heard he weighs sumthin like 8 kilos!

Wow, that's a big boy! ;)

I'm very happy for you all!

And, the post-Caesarean incision will look fine before you know it.

Once it heals then if you open vitamin E gel caps and rub the stuff on it, the incision will all but disappear over time. In fact, the external scar can be "disappeared" before the internal scar tissue is completely healed.

(You'll get ghost pains there for possibly two years, so don't let unexpected pains alarm you. It's only scar tissue talking to you.)

And, besides, we experienced daddies like to kiss those mommy scars!

After all, if it wasn't for mommies how could we daddies reproduce?

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2006-08-10 14:10:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#75. To: robin (#49)

There is a real trend toward c-sections. It's so convenient for the doctors, they're scheduled and there are fewer complications apparently.

...and the money ain't bad, either. :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil posted on 2006-08-10 14:19:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#76. To: IndieTX (#63)

One lady said "I'd rather give up my things [freedom] than have something happen."

...and she can vote.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil posted on 2006-08-10 14:21:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#77. To: who knows what evil (#75)

...and the money ain't bad, either. :-)

go Big Pharma! keep that $$ flowing

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin posted on 2006-08-10 14:22:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#78. To: lodwick (#73)

It's all so transparent, when you finally wake up.

I figure they'll have to angle it as "it's the internet's fault, too easy to plan terror strikes"...The net will have to go first. Today's hysteria is probably one of the ramp-ups.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan posted on 2006-08-10 14:32:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#79. To: Eoghan. All (#78)

The net will have to go first. Today's hysteria is probably one of the ramp-ups.

That's a tough one, for me.

Almost every organization, entity, and individual in the world now uses the web for whatever their situation calls for doing...for example: we're chatting here, I've checked some bank accounts, the price of gold and silver, the weather up in Iowa, ordered some books and tapes to give away, and on and on.

But who knows? We are dealing with crazy people at the helm.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 14:52:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#80. To: All. A Question (#79)

Just wondering -

Have they yet shown the mug shots of these Prell and Crest bombers?

If so, are they any more genius appearing than the housing project, aspirational southern bapist/muslim bombers?

Thanks.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod posted on 2006-08-10 14:57:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

#81. To: lodwick, Eoghan, Enderby, Critter, BTP Holdings, All (#79)

It may just be specific clamp-downs on all the eeeevil blogs and forums that will have been proven to be the eeeevil conduit that enabled the eeeeevil t'rrists.

Recently Al Manar was difficult to find, it was blocked by some cable companies.

I noticed Time Warner has bought out Comcast and Adelphia, the 2 major providers in my area. This consolidation will aid in the necessary blocking.

And with Google, etc. saving all kinds of data, decisions and repercussions could be meted out to certain "Poster Childs", to be made an example of in order to deter any other would be eeeevil bloggers.

Not that long ago, http://crpytome.org was harassed and shut down for a day or two by the Feds.

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin posted on 2006-08-10 15:05:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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