4um: 'Airlines terror plot' disrupted

Title: 'Airlines terror plot' disrupted
Source: BBC
URL Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4778575.stm
Published: Aug 10, 2006
Author: BBC
Post Date: 2006-08-10 08:48:49 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 1237
Comments: 137

A plot to blow up planes in flight from the UK to the US and commit "mass murder on an unimaginable scale" has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said. It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled in hand luggage on to as many as 10 aircraft.

The "plot" was that they would carry liquids aboard, mix them in flight, then detonate them.

Yep - yet Condelusional, and others, are on record saying, "We had no idea that "they" might hijack planes and fly them into buildings."

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"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

I figure they'll have to angle it as "it's the internet's fault, too easy to plan terror strikes"...The net will have to go first. Today's hysteria is probably one of the ramp-ups.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Almost every organization, entity, and individual in the world now uses the web for whatever their situation calls for doing...for example: we're chatting here, I've checked some bank accounts, the price of gold and silver, the weather up in Iowa, ordered some books and tapes to give away, and on and on.

If so, are they any more genius appearing than the housing project, aspirational southern bapist/muslim bombers?

It may just be specific clamp-downs on all the eeeevil blogs and forums that will have been proven to be the eeeevil conduit that enabled the eeeeevil t'rrists.

Recently Al Manar was difficult to find, it was blocked by some cable companies.

I noticed Time Warner has bought out Comcast and Adelphia, the 2 major providers in my area. This consolidation will aid in the necessary blocking.

And with Google, etc. saving all kinds of data, decisions and repercussions could be meted out to certain "Poster Childs", to be made an example of in order to deter any other would be eeeevil bloggers.

Not that long ago, http://crpytome.org was harassed and shut down for a day or two by the Feds.

Islamic terrorism spreads via Internet

Jerusalem Post

09-30-2005

Headline: Islamic terrorism spreads via Internet
Byline: JUDY SIEGEL and TALYA HALKIN
Edition; Daily
Section: News
Page: 06

Friday, September 30, 2005 -- Islamic terrorism is being promoted by a phenomenal growth in jihadist Web sites, which have grown from fewer than 20 five years ago to more than 4,000 today, according to French and US researchers writing correspondence published in the September 29 issue of the prestigious journal Nature.

Dr. Scott Atran of the Jean Nicod Institute in France and the University of Michigan and Dr. Jessica Stern of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University concluded that, due to the increasing role played by the Internet in the spread of terrorism, efforts should foster alternative peer groups in cities and cyberspace showing the same commitment and compassion towards their own members as terror groups seem to offer, but in life- enhancing ways.

"It is fair to say global Islamic jihad wouldn't exist without the Internet," said Yael Shahar, a researcher who specializes in the study of cyber-terrorism at the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya. "Today, the structure of the Web is the structure of terrorist organizations. Without it, they would be reduced to local cells."

Al-Qaida, Shahar said in an interview with The Jerusalem Post, set the model for Web-based terrorist organizations that have no specific geographical location and for whom cyberspace has essentially replaced the need for state sponsorship, state-based espionage agencies and other forms of support. The Internet, according to Shahar, allows terrorist organizations to function like major corporations who do business in the global village online using workers from different countries and which grow by mergers.

"Suppose you are a small organization in Turkey concerned with regional jihad," Shahar said. "Along comes al-Qaida, and says 'We know you're not doing so well, but we'll help you build bombs and send you a suicide bomber or two if you sign on to global jihad.'"

Shahar said that the use of the Internet for global terror unfolds in four fundamental ways. Cyberspace is a platform for propaganda and incitement aimed both at the enemy and at existing and potential supporters. Often, on- line propaganda may send a double message - one directed at the Western world and a second, more violent message, written in Arabic. It exploits the vulnerability of the democratic communications revolution. "Beheading videos [are] not aimed at people in totalitarian regimes who can't do anything about it," she said, explaining they are aimed at a democracy where enough of those videos may cause people to ask why their soldiers are fighting a war.

In addition, the Internet is a source of recruiting potential jihadists in both closed and open Internet forums. Command and control to carry out attacks, coordinate cells, send user manuals, and select targets is also done via the Web along with more administrative functions such as fundraising. "At the forefront of global jihad are technologically savvy, Western-educated terrorists," Shahar said.

"The problem is that counterterrorism agencies and jihadists are not on the same wavelength. We need to be using the same means as the terrorists, with the same kind of freedom, and that is not going to happen very soon," Shahar said, because counterterrorism agencies are still hierarchical, and are not exchanging information in real time for political, economic, and technological reasons. In addition, there is a strong resistance to change and various structural problems.

"We're already in the middle of a Third World War, in which the Internet is the means used by both sides to get their messages across," Shahar said. "Unfortunately, the West isn't doing so well."

Like Atran and Stern, Shahar advocates the creation of a network of researchers that will use their its methods to recruit supporters of counterterrorism.

"We need to find out what works for them and use it against them," Shahar said.

This would certainly be the most logical way of controlling "undesirable" sites or individuals - but, we're still dealing with crazy people.

"It is ~~fair~~ completely insane to say global Islamic jihad wouldn't exist without the Internet," said Yael Shahar, a researcher who specializes in the study of cyber-terrorism at the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya.

Yael, get a clue, read a little history, the Imams called for holy jihad then, and they do now, when there is a reason. Actually, there hasn't been a true call for Holy Jihad in a long time. Believe me Yael, you really don't want them to.

Also of note is that August 22 of this year corresponds with the Islamic date of Rajab 28, the day Saladin conquered and entered Jerusalem.

Taken in conjunction with Ahmadinejad’s stated desire to see Israel destroyed, it hardly seems a coincidence.

You ask why? Haven't you been following world affairs.......Sore Loserman loses on Tuesday, dickhead announces on wednesday that this is encouragement to the terrorists, and now on thursday.....VIOLA!

Damned...somebody screwed up big time--how come they were in the uk and not in the usa, or notably in connecticut! Now that is the question....

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford

You really have to question their 'smarts' when they, as supposed guerrilla warrior revolutionaries want uniforms in order to do the job!

Secondly, HOUNDDAWG, I'm sure glad you told us your experiences from a daddy's perspective cause it sounded good enough to be from a mommy's perspective!

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Yep - it would be most interesting to know who calls the shot on where these "incidents" occur, and why the countries are chosen...

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This event seems designed to cover a lot of territory. Nov elections, Blair, the economy, Lebanon, Iraq, Lieberman - lots of reasons for pulling a terrorist rabbit out of the hat now. Just remember that the more desperate the fascists become, the more dangerous they are. Killing off serfs means nothing to them.

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Funny you should say that, my folks just took off yesterday from BWI Icelandic air for the Norwegian cruise.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Many of us working for the government back many years ago had an excellent opinion of Icelandic. Excellent maintenance, good service and not attuned to herd mentality of a cattle drive.

Last I knew they still were flying humans, not cattle. Tell Mom and Dad they made an excellent choice, for MANY reasons.

Hey Cyni. Is there any truth to the rumor that you were manning the control tower when Wilbur and Orville blasted off?

I did however have a friend long ago whose pilots licence was signed by one of the Wright brothers.

Actually I imagine that all the pervs, pedophiles and Trotsky CommunNAZIs amongst the Neo Cons are getting hardies and playing strip SKAT over what they will be able to do with our freedoms with this current "terror alert".

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That is because Walker was not a "mainstream" conservative. He was a John Bircher and an early proponant of the Conspiracy Theory of History.

"To wield onself -- to use oneself as a tool in one's own hand -- and so to make or break that which no one else can build or ruin -- THAT is the greatest pleasure known to man! To one who has felt the chisel in his hand and set free the angel prisoned in the marble block, or to one who has felt sword in hand and set homeless the soul that a moment before lived in the body of his mortal enemy -- to those both come alike the taste of that rare food spread only for demons or for gods." -- Gordon R. Dickson, "Soldier Ask Not"

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No, but I did see that there was a shakeup of the top commanders with Halutz handing his contol of the Lebanon operation at the Northern Command to Deputy Chief of Staff Maj. Gen. Moshe Kaplinsky of the elite Golani Brigade.

I do not find this surprising at all since it is now a factual repsresentation that the Zionists have been planning an assault on Lebanon for some time. Especially considering the withdrawal of Syrian forces after the assassination of Hariri last year.

It looks as if Olmert has committed the same sins as many other civilian leaderships (think Johnson & McNamara and now Bush, Cheney & Rummy) in other military fiascos and not allowing the military to do the job they know how to do. We could add to that list Truman when he fired MacArthur.

These wars were never intended to be won, merely to grind down the military. It is worse now than ever before with the neocon and Zionist influences at their highest points ever with Bush taking office in 2001.

LOL And neither could the facist regime of the Zionists afford to show such weakness as Olmert has by changing the plan which was set. This explains the neocon's shrillness with the poor results of the IDF attacks. It's been the same old BS with them behaving like mad dogs with a blood lust for more killing.

I would say that if there is a terror attack of any size, it might just go off in Tel Aviv instead of some place else. The fact that this could appear as a coup d'etat instead of a WMD strike is within the realm of possibilities. Vaccilllation by the leader is an unpardonable sin (even for Dubya) in the eyes of the perps of 9-11. The war must continue and expand at all costs. This is why Bush had given the green light to expand the conflict to Syria in an effort to draw in Iran. He knows who not to cross or he might end up like JFK. Remember also that Olmert was small potatoes until Sharon tapped him for the number two spot. He is expendable just as so many others.

I've been saying for some time that the only way there would be another big attack on U.S. soil is if Bush wavers and starts to make peace initiatives. It looks like it is Olmert who has screwed up instead and now will be forced into a position which will literally put the Israelis back to square one and the plan to expand the war to Syria and Iran on indefinite hold.

Bush held out longer than he should have to give the IDF a chance to overcome its poor strategic position and now will have to try to achieve a diplomatic (Only Bolton could ram thru something which would enrage the Lebanese and the rest of the Arabs; Condi is a non-factor.) resolution that will still give the Zionists a few crumbs. But that will lead to further political instability in the years to come.

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself." Mark Twain