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Title: Baghdad, yesterday, today and tomorrow
Source: various
URL Source: http://various.com
Published: Aug 11, 2006
Author: me
Post Date: 2006-08-11 09:16:12 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 109
Comments: 1

Battle for Baghdad: US and Iraq plan street by street offensive

by Patrick Fort 2 hours, 5 minutes ago

8/11/06

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Faced with a make or break struggle to wrest control of Baghdad from insurgents and sectarian death squads, US and Iraqi commanders plan an ambitious strategy to take back the Iraqi capital street by street, district by district. - Snip

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Iraqi minister says Baghdad safe, secure.

Xinhua News Agency; 4/7/2003

BAGHDAD, Apr 7, 2003 (Xinhua via COMTEX)

Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf said on Monday that Baghdad is safe and secure and the Iraqi government is in full control of the key government buildings though the US forces claimed they had smashed into the capital

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BILLION DOLLAR BUNKER; U.S. plans Baghdad embassy more secure than Pentagon.(News)

The Mirror (London, England); 1/3/2006

Byline: By CHRIS HUGHES Security Correspondent

AMERICA is to spend pounds 1billion on an embassy in Baghdad "more secure than the Pentagon".

Plans for the hi-tech complex are being kept secret because of the terrorist threat in Iraq.

The exact location is not being released until later this year but it is likely to be built in the heavily fortified Green Zone area where the Iraqi government and US military command is based. The embassy will be guarded by 15ft blast walls and ground-to-air missiles and the main building will have bunkers for use during air offensives. The grounds will include as many as 300 houses for consular and military officials.

And a large-scale barracks will be built for Marines who will protect what will be Washington's biggest and most secure overseas building.

A US source in the Middle East said last night: "Plans for the embassy building are being kept behind closed doors because of the terrorist threat.

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Faced with a make or break struggle to wrest control of Baghdad from insurgents and sectarian death squads, US and Iraqi commanders plan an ambitious strategy to take back the Iraqi capital street by street, district by district..

The exact location is not being released until later this year but it is likely to be built in the heavily fortified Green Zone area where the Iraqi government and US military command is based. The embassy will be guarded by 15ft blast walls and ground-to-air missiles and the main building will have bunkers for use during air offensives.

They must be joking. There was an exercise conducted in Korea that involved clearing Seoul. It was a mainly computer type of command exercise that assumed 10 seconds per room cleared and the area to be dealt with was 10 blocks by 10 blocks. They came up with 18 months and 48 battalions required to accomplish this task.

We've again bumped into one of the problems that are currently intractable using existing military doctrine. Baghdad is an urban area contested by non- state forces who have no great obligation or impetus to hold territory. When this operation begins they will simply attack where it is advantageous to them to do so and will vacate where it is not. We then have a choice: maintain a garrison type of force in the areas we have "cleared" to deny ingress to the enemy, or leave and risk that area being occupied by the enemy again, and potentially having them attack us from that location again.

It's so much easier when it's a standard government run Army that has some interest in trying to hold ground. When the enemy simply moves out of the area temporarily, unless you address what it is that is making them fight (which should have been done 3 years ago) you will never be able to really succeed, all you'll do is temporarily make different places in the city suck more or less.

The second paragraph I quoted is even more surreal. Ground to air missiles and bunkers for use during air attack? Exactly who do we expect to be attacking our embassy (or base to be used for commanders in future operations is more likely). We haven't had a credible air threat to defend against since Korea, and we've never conducted ground operations in an area that we didn't have air superiority at the very least and usually air supremacy. WW1 didn't have too much tactical air, but WWII we only on exceedingly rare and fleeting instances had to be concerned with tactical air, and I don't think that we had many ground targets attacked in Korea.

historian1944  posted on  2006-08-11   9:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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