These people are the 29% who still support Bush. Notice how little substance there is too them. If you take away their bigoted blind hatred and seething rage, there is nothing left.
Notice that they can't even defend the positions they advocate - they can do nothing more than demonize and shout down people who present facts that contradict their world view.
When I was a kid I could never understand who the Nazis got a hold of Germany. No one could ever really explain it to me. Watching these people it suddenly becomes very clear. These people are identical to the Nazis in the 1930s. Their tactics are the same and their goals are the same. They really do hate American freedoms - mostly because American freedom permits inconvenient questions. They will not be happy until the classic American way of life is destroyed.
They are the people that Dean talks about in his new book. They are very uncomfortable with freedom. They need a strongman to tell them what to do and they hate the idea of other people being uncontrolled.
exactly. until they come to the realization that they're just delusional pack animals carrying the water for their wonton masters, engaging them in their totemic phantasm only spurs them further down the same mis-guided path. no one's going to change their mind by force, and considering the group in question, they'll have to be overwhelmingly repulsed by what they've become. the sad part is, that by that time, it'll probably be too late.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." -OBL "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded." - Lincoln All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land. --William Kingdon Clifford
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." -OBL "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded." - Lincoln All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land. --William Kingdon Clifford
These people are the 29% who still support Bush. Notice how little substance there is too them. If you take away their bigoted blind hatred and seething rage, there is nothing left.
The neocons have very effectively tapped into the evil and ugly side of many intinsically unhappy people and given them "permission" to act out their rage. I suspect that many of them are life's losers and misfits who have just been looking for an opportunity to blame others for their personal failings. God hasn't answered your prayers for a better job and a new car. Well hell, maybe you just aren't killing enough unbelievers. These are some real sickos so don't look for anything near a rational explanation outside of abnormal psychology studies. Not exactly a group of thinkers.
These people are the 29% who still support Bush. Notice how little substance there is too them. If you take away their bigoted blind hatred and seething rage, there is nothing left.
They take after their Fuhrer and his stormtroopers.
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." -OBL "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded." - Lincoln All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land. --William Kingdon Clifford
there seems to be a hate-cult towards Cindy Sheehan. it's incredible. As I said on another thread I received an e-mail at work just savaging her. said she was a bad mother and a bad wife. second divorce. made lots of money off of her son's death. incredible. I should've e-mailed it home just so I could post it here.
pmlol! has RimJobedict Arnold been using that, too? haven't been there to see, i bugged outta' FRmageddon about four years ago and haven't looked back, aside from the occasional link that makes me lose my lunch.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
It's amazing how the BOTS demand moral perfection of anyone who criticize TheStateInc or their compromised herd mentality, which they know is impossible [especially when it comes to the bloodthirsty Constitution repudiating BOTS themselves!]
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." -OBL "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded." - Lincoln All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land. --William Kingdon Clifford
there seems to be a hate-cult towards Cindy Sheehan. it's incredible. As I said on another thread I received an e-mail at work just savaging her. said she was a bad mother and a bad wife. second divorce. made lots of money off of her son's death. incredible. I should've e-mailed it home just so I could post it here.
I like being in the GOP line-of-fire, but basically I'm a boring old fart that values fun. Republicans aren't fun anymore.
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." -OBL "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded." - Lincoln All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land. --William Kingdon Clifford
and with this crutch, its old age, and its wisdom it whispers no, this will be the last.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
yeah, wish they would've posted the whole thing. too bad no one's posted the Shea Stadium concert from '71. but there is a DVD coming out tuesday tho.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
#43. To: omerta, christine, loner, lodwick, all (#15)(Edited)
until they come to the realization that they're just delusional pack animals carrying the water for their wonton masters, engaging them in their totemic phantasm only spurs them further down the same mis-guided path. no one's going to change their mind by force, and considering the group in question, they'll have to be overwhelmingly repulsed by what they've become. the sad part is, that by that time, it'll probably be too late.
My oldest son found this out the hard way. He's only 13 and is so intelligent and altruistic. He never needed to take any queues from me on his independent and pro-Constitution beliefs. He spoke out to his "christian" friends at his "christian" school who responded with all of the hate and vigor of the BOTS on LP. He is now labelled a "liberal" [which is as far from the truth as you can get] and an "America hater."
It's obvious what these kid's parents are isn't it....
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." -OBL "Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded." - Lincoln All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land. --William Kingdon Clifford
sounds like a fine son you have there, Indie. it's probably better that he finds out now to choose his friends wisely. he should tell the little statists-in-training to at least get it right, it's Classical Liberal! maybe one or two of them will even bother to find out what it means and end up changing their tune. ;)
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
he should tell the little statists-in-training to at least get it right, it's Classical Liberal! maybe one or two of them will even bother to find out what it means and end up changing their tune.
Correct, and excellent point...a word that has come to connote the polar opposite of it's original meaning.
your son is welcome....have him join, Indie, it would be neat to have his participation and fun for us to get an intelligent and inquisitive teenager's point of view.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison
typical bot tactic....one particular poster has used that one on us here with every single post. you know who i mean, Indie. ;)
From Wikipedia: (sounds good to me!)
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy that supports individual rights as pre-existing the state, a government that exists to protect those moral rights, ensured by a constitution that protects individual autonomy from other individuals and governmental power, private property, and a laissez-faire economic policy.
Many elements of this ideology developed in the 17th and 18th centuries, and it often seen as being the natural ideology of the industrial revolution and its subsequent capitalist system. The early liberal figures that libertarians now describe as their fellow "classical liberals" rejected many foundational assumptions which dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion, and focuses on individual freedom, reason, justice and tolerance.[2]. Such thinkers and their ideas helped to inspire the American Revolution and French Revolution.
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783