exactly. until they come to the realization that they're just delusional pack animals carrying the water for their wonton masters, engaging them in their totemic phantasm only spurs them further down the same mis-guided path. no one's going to change their mind by force, and considering the group in question, they'll have to be overwhelmingly repulsed by what they've become. the sad part is, that by that time, it'll probably be too late.
#43. To: omerta, christine, loner, lodwick, all (#15)(Edited)
until they come to the realization that they're just delusional pack animals carrying the water for their wonton masters, engaging them in their totemic phantasm only spurs them further down the same mis-guided path. no one's going to change their mind by force, and considering the group in question, they'll have to be overwhelmingly repulsed by what they've become. the sad part is, that by that time, it'll probably be too late.
My oldest son found this out the hard way. He's only 13 and is so intelligent and altruistic. He never needed to take any queues from me on his independent and pro-Constitution beliefs. He spoke out to his "christian" friends at his "christian" school who responded with all of the hate and vigor of the BOTS on LP. He is now labelled a "liberal" [which is as far from the truth as you can get] and an "America hater."
It's obvious what these kid's parents are isn't it....
typical bot tactic....one particular poster has used that one on us here with every single post. you know who i mean, Indie. ;)
From Wikipedia: (sounds good to me!)
Classical liberalism is a political philosophy that supports individual rights as pre-existing the state, a government that exists to protect those moral rights, ensured by a constitution that protects individual autonomy from other individuals and governmental power, private property, and a laissez-faire economic policy.
Many elements of this ideology developed in the 17th and 18th centuries, and it often seen as being the natural ideology of the industrial revolution and its subsequent capitalist system. The early liberal figures that libertarians now describe as their fellow "classical liberals" rejected many foundational assumptions which dominated most earlier theories of government, such as the Divine Right of Kings, hereditary status, and established religion, and focuses on individual freedom, reason, justice and tolerance.[2]. Such thinkers and their ideas helped to inspire the American Revolution and French Revolution.
A lot of the folks on that thread want her dead. It is amusing to watch, too; not the anger but more about the lack of principle; sometimes, I catch a good thread to see why America is all fucked-upped. This LP thread exemplifies my perspective. As a nation, we are screwed when party is above principle.
I actually don't care for Cindy Sheehan's political statements. She is a recent media whore exploiting her sad situation within the Democratic Party. Her best Bo is Jesse Jackson, whom I don't care for on any issue particularly because I don't understand his slurred speeches or underhanded methods of business bribery.
But, I don't want anyone dead because they voiced their sincere opinion. That goes beyond the pale.
Watch the video in my post #51, the males in the truck remind me of El Pee posters. I admire Cindy and appreciate her willingness to spearhead the issues involving Bush's illegal and immoral wars. It is an interesting exercise in lame thinking to assume she does it for her own advancement, but those who advance that spin have lost touch with what is spin and real a long time ago anyway.
I look at El Pee from time to time and I am actually sad it did not turn into a free speech site where all views are welcome and allowed. But Goldi made a series of choices and there you have it; FReeper lite lives at a site where Goldi lives to receive strokes and admiration for her myopic and convoluted thinking.
She is like the Cindy you describe, and it is high comedy to see how this is so, yet people there blast a good woman who is nothing like her. Then suck up to a creep who actually is when they brown their nose in Goldi's butt.
Goldi is not fit to lick the toe jam from Cindy Sheenan's feet, sorry about that dumb bitch's bad luck ;-D
I admire Cindy and appreciate her willingness to spearhead the issues involving Bush's illegal and immoral wars. It is an interesting exercise in lame thinking to assume she does it for her own advancement, but those who advance that spin have lost touch with what is spin and real a long time ago anyway.
I admire Cindy,too, for doing something constructive with her pain and her sense of loss - to warn others about what the ME wars are all about - Israel's security, military industry profits, controlling the flow of oil. Everyone else is either too stupid or too scared to tell the truth, but in Cindy's case , like Janis Joplin's song, for her there's nothing left to lose. I have been told that the absolute worst thing that can happen to a grown person is to outlive one's child. I give her credit for trying to make lemonade out of sour lemons - trying to save other young persons' lives, trying to save the pain of parents losing their child over a senseless wars borne of tribalism and greed.
She probably lies awake at night blaming herself for letting Casey join the military in the first place - she's a good Catholic and Catholics knock themselves out with guilt...if only I had stopped him, why did I let him go, it's my fault he had this idealism about fighting for his country.
I don't see how any one can consider Cindy a "media whore." For pity's sake, the lady needs to get the word out so she needs to align herself with someone/a group... I don't think she's beloved by the Democrats - check the daily kos...they criticize her because she has dared to diss "Precious" interfering in our country's foreign policy - shame on you, Cindy, you ugly anti-semite!- so she drifts to anyone who will give her a platform - Hugo Chavez, Jesse Jackson - she is driven to get the word out to avenge the death of her son. I do not begrudge her keeping company with anyone as long as that person helps her tell her story so others may learn.
That LP or FR call her down...good for Cindy...it means her message has been heard and has struck a nerve. When one of those computer commandos pony up a needless painful sacrifice of their child on the altar of Israel's security or Haliburton/Bechtel's bottom lines, then I'll listen to them, too. Until then, they can stick their frenzied hatred of Cindy where the sun don't shine.