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Title: Swords Being Crossed Over Memorial to Katrina Victims
Source: The Los Angeles Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw ... story?coll=la-headlines-nation
Published: Aug 17, 2006
Author: Ann M. Simmons, Times Staff Writer
Post Date: 2006-08-17 00:44:46 by robin
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Swords Being Crossed Over Memorial to Katrina Victims

A New Orleans-area parish wants to erect the symbol on the storm's first anniversary. But the ACLU says the effort is unconstitutional.

By Ann M. Simmons, Times Staff Writer

August 16, 2006

NEW ORLEANS — A proposed memorial to victims of Hurricane Katrina from St. Bernard's Parish that includes a cross bearing a depiction of Jesus has spurred a conflict between parish officials and the American Civil Liberties Union.

The ACLU says incorporating a cross in the memorial is unconstitutional because local government officials were part of the committee that conceived the idea and because the group thinks the site where it will be erected is public land.

But parish officials insist that the land where the memorial will be placed is private, though it is near a public waterway. And they argue that parish employees, who are members of the memorial committee, are volunteers who worked on the project on their own time, using private funding.

The proposed memorial is scheduled to be erected Aug. 29, the storm's one-year anniversary. It is a 13-foot-high, 7-foot-wide gold-painted, stainless steel cross bearing a silver artistic rendering of Jesus' face. An accompanying stone monument will be inscribed with the names of the parish's storm dead and the 20 who were never found.

"I don't know what their problem is," said St. Bernard Parish President Henry "Junior" Rodriguez.

"We're just trying to memorialize the people who passed away during Hurricane Katrina. This has nothing to do with religion. We're going to memorialize these people, whether the ACLU likes it or not," he said.

Rodriguez said 129 St. Bernard residents died because of Katrina and the ensuing storm surge that swallowed the area, which adjoins New Orleans. All but about 50 of the parish's 27,000 homes were flooded.

Joe Cook, executive director of the ACLU of Louisiana, said his group had initially learned of the memorial through news reports. He is waiting to receive information from the parish about the project and the involvement of parish employees.

"The cross, with a government endorsement, sends a message that only Christians are welcome in St. Bernard Parish," Cook said. "That is a very inappropriate message for a government to send."

Cook said that to his knowledge, the memorial would be placed in a waterway that is normally public land.

"Even if it's private land, at this point it's [about whether] the government is entangled with the memorial," Cook said. "If a private group had come up with this idea and funded it, we would protect their right to do that."

The three-dimensional, 1,600-pound cross was designed and constructed by welder Vincent LaBruzzo, who said he had worked as many as 14 hours a day, at least five days a week, over the last month to finish the memorial.

In a July 28 open letter to Rodriguez, Cook said his group sympathized with the parish's desire to honor St. Bernard's storm victims, but suggested that either "a different religiously neutral monument be erected," or the cross presently planned be moved to private land.

But Rodriguez has snubbed the ACLU's proposal to change the memorial. "I don't give a damn what they suggested," Rodriguez said. "This is what we've decided. They are not going to dictate to me what kind of memorial we're going to have."

Cook said his group would prefer to resolve the matter without litigation. A decision will not be made until the ACLU has all the facts.

Standing proudly beside the freshly completed structure at his workshop in Harahan, La., on Tuesday, LaBruzzo said he jumped at the opportunity to do his part to pay tribute to those lost to the storm.

"Let us love our people the way we want to love them," LaBruzzo said. "What we're doing here is love. It's about love and caring."

LaBruzzo, who said he used to work for St. Bernard Parish until about a month ago, said he donated his labor.

The plan is to erect the memorial about four to six feet from the shoreline at Shell Beach in eastern St. Bernard, on what parish officials say is a private bank near the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet.

Rodriguez said the site had been chosen because Shell Beach was where St. Bernard initially felt Katrina's impact, and the outlet was responsible for so much of the parish's flooding. The unveiling of the memorial is scheduled to be part of a daylong remembrance of the storm.

"We think it's proper and fitting to memorialize an event that impacted so many people," said Steve Cannizaro, public affairs director for St. Bernard Parish. "Katrina gave an incredible try to kill St. Bernard. It's definitely the most significant thing here since the 1815 battle of New Orleans," Cannizaro said, referring to the fight at the end of the War of 1812 that brought Louisiana into the United States.

The American Center for Law and Justice, a Washington nonprofit public interest law firm, has offered to defend St. Bernard in any ensuing legal battle over the memorial.

In an Aug. 9 letter to Rodriguez, Jay Sekulow, the organization's chief counsel, wrote that his group had a particular interest in ensuring that "crosses and other commemorative symbols are not stripped from our nation's memorials by overzealous interest groups."

Sekulow's organization has been involved in an ongoing battle to preserve the Mt. Soledad Veterans Memorial in San Diego. On Monday, President Bush signed a bill making the cross a federal war memorial under control of the Department of Defense.

Rodriguez said at least half a dozen attorneys and corporations had pledged legal support for the parish in any prospective lawsuit with the ACLU, but he predicted it would not be needed.

"What are they going to sue us over? It's private property," Rodriguez said. "We're not hurting anybody. That's the last thing on our mind." Subscribe to *KATRINA*

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#1. To: robin, diana (#0)

It is a 13-foot-high, 7-foot-wide gold-painted

gold plated????

HAHAHA That will last about six months TOPS, unless guarded night and day. Even tho the goofs do not know the gold plate is worth five bucks IF it were in a sellable form.

Your reporter, commenting from the deep south, Lake Charles, Louisiana.

These people are like crows, if it glitters, it's GONE.

tom007  posted on  2006-08-17   0:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#1)

painted

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   0:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#0)

But Rodriguez has snubbed the ACLU's proposal to change the memorial. "I don't give a damn what they suggested," Rodriguez said. "This is what we've decided. They are not going to dictate to me what kind of memorial we're going to have."

I like this guy's attitude.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-17   0:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: RickyJ (#3)

me too

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   1:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#2)

painted

Stand corrected.

Won't make too much difference tho, if it glitters like gole it must be stole.

tom007  posted on  2006-08-17   1:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#5)

Won't make too much difference tho, if it glitters like gole it must be stole.

Oh dear, you may have a point!

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   1:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

No rascism must be read into that as the whites here are as rapacious and senseless as anyone else.

tom007  posted on  2006-08-17   1:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#0)

The ACLU says incorporating a cross in the memorial is unconstitutional because local government officials were part of the committee that conceived the idea and because the group thinks the site where it will be erected is public land.

Had St. Bernard's decided to use a menorrah to be the symbol for the memorial, the ACLU would not have registered a peep of criticism.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-08-17   2:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: scrapper2, Ricky J, tom007, *KATRINA* (#8)

Had St. Bernard's decided to use a menorrah to be the symbol for the memorial, the ACLU would not have registered a peep of criticism.

Possibly, an effort was made specifically to get all of those of the Jewish faith out of Katrina's way.

Jewish groups pitch in for Katrina victims
http://www.jewishreview.org/Archives/Article.php?Article=2005-09-15-1656

Devastated But Safe In Wake Of Katrina
http://www.shalomdc.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=162707
In New Orleans, in vans and boats, teams under the auspices of the local Jewish federation searched homes and apartment buildings for missing members of the Jewish community. The effort, coordinated with Baton Rouge’s federation, included sheriff’s deputies from East Baton Rouge.

By midweek, they had found and rescued at least 30 people, according to Adam Bronstone, the New Orleans federation’s director of community relations.

“We’re becoming a missing person’s bureau,” he said, speculating that perhaps 50 more members of the Jewish community are unaccounted for.

Katrina rescue mission looks specifically for Jews
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/09/Chosen_few.html

A group of 30 Sheriff's deputies and volunteers from nearby Baton Rouge based their search on a list of fifty names complied by a local Jewish group. They took with them guns and bullet-proof vests. Flat-bottom boats. A doctor. Ice-cold water. And a Global Positioning System, since many of the homes were submerged in water. The group successfully rescued many of the people on their list, whilst others had already been saved by others and still others refused to leave their flooded homes.

Can you imagine the outcry if it were just Christians or just Catholics or just Muslims being targeted for rescue efforts?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   8:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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