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Title: The CIA's Internet Fakes
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URL Source: http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm
Published: Aug 17, 2006
Author: Fintan Dunne
Post Date: 2006-08-17 02:40:40 by RickyJ
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The CIA's Internet Fakes What will be the most startling aspect of our investigation for many people is the vast scale of governmental control of the 9/11 movement and alternative investigators and media. From websites to commentators; from analysts to political personages, this has given the cover-up team unprecedented control of alternative media perceptions. Here's a quote from a recent article on the UK Guardian: "The Chinese government, employs an estimated 30,000 internet police, as part of a long-standing policy to control the web so that it can be used by businesses but not by political opponents." [Source] THE SMOKESCREEN Some may be surprised by the range and scope of the misinformation sites we have detailed, and may even be disconsolate to see the sheer scale of the social and political control which their virtually unlimited budget can achieve. All we can say is.... deal with it. We had to. It's better than us all flailing around in ignorance. And it explains why men and women of good heart have been getting nowhere.
by Fintan Dunne, Editor, http://BreakForNews.com 4th August, 2005
URLs: http://BreakForNews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm
>http://WagNews.blogspot.com/2005/08/cias-internet-fakes.html
Note: We do not contend that everyone associated with these websites are knowing intelligence operatives. Some have been professionally manipulated, others merely misled. In any event these are promoting the psyop agendas and disinformation themes of the covert controllers. This is also not meant to be a fully comprehensive listing of all the fake websites.
Note: We do not contend that everyone associated with these websites are knowing intelligence operatives. Some have been professionally manipulated, others merely misled. In any event these are promoting the psyop agendas and disinformation themes of the covert controllers. This is also not meant to be a fully comprehensive listing of all the fake websites. 
For the last three years we have been quietly investigating the cover-up of the 9/11 attacks. Ours has been a wide-ranging inquiry which paid special attention to those who claim to be already exposing the truth.
During this time we have interviewed many people with alternative views on who were the real perpetrators. All the while, we kept our own counsel. Much of the time we played it as if we were uncritically buying the lines being put out on various alternative media.
We have examined a great deal of evidence and methodically traced the methods and networks used to mislead us all. Now we present the first of our findings.
We published our first investigative articles on the 9/11 attacks --just 7 and 14 days after the event. We knew, as did many others, that the real planners were not 'Al-Qaida'. That's the easy part. The challenge was to actually determine -rather than merely guess: who did carry out the attacks?
In uncovering those perpetrators, we felt that an investigation of the cover-up would be as much --if not more-- revealing than our examination of the attacks themselves.
Our analysis of the cover-up shows it requires, and has used, the official intelligence resources of more that one state. One of the ways of deflecting investigators from this grim reality has been to spin the facts to allege that a 'rogue group' within government carried out the attacks.
In short, the government is running not only the 9/11 movement, but also controlling the 9/11 issue in the alternative media. It was relatively easy to do so, because they have controlled both mainstream and alternative media and politics increasingly over the last twenty years. This was just an extension of those operations.
THE INTERNET POLICE
Think the ideology and practice of the USA would be any different? Of course not. Just well cloaked under a veneer of free expression.
In the US, it's less a case of internet 'police' and more a question of Internet fake opposition, misdirection websites, front organizations, pseudo-activist groups and a host of professional blogging and web journalism liars, acting in concert to create an impenetrable fog.
These people are all over the Internet They are all over the 9/11 issue; all over the 'stolen' election of 2004; behind the psychological operations designed to inspire fear of earth changes, of global warming, of the Super-State and the so-called New World Order; all over the landscape of anti-corporate, antifascist expression on the Internet.
This army of information controllers is all over the 'free' information you are getting on the Internet. Time we opened our eyes to see them. It's not just the mainstream which is controlled. From the moment the Internet became prominent, a vast budget has been expended to control all the high-trafficked intersections on the information superhighway.
THE FAKE 'EXPOSING' OF 9/11
Many of these sites/assets were put in place long before 9/11. A key goal was to ensure that if some truth must come out, it will be a truth designed and controlled by intelligence agencies --with agency assets in a position to ensure misdirection and damage limitation.
To this end, an orgy of evidence [See Minority Report Part I] in the form of deliberately misleading 9/11 'clues', were designed into the 9/11 operation from the start --to give these assets prearranged talking points with which to fill their column inches and programming. This has served to confuse and confound.
The hyping of the 9/11 issue up until the 'defeat' of Kerry was designed to max out activist interest in the issue, then bury it with the aid of general post-Kerry, left-wing political disillusion -against the backdrop of division in the 9/11 Movement itself.
Also part of a similar confounding exercise were the subsequent 9/11 Movement 'flame wars', as different assets attacked each other to undermine their collective credibility and disillusion ordinary grassroots 9/11 truth activists.
A persistent theme of the disinformation spread by these assets is to portray the machinations of this elite group acting through the CIA/NSA/ETC. as if they originate from somewhere other than the US security/intelligence apparatus.
THE MEDIA AS PSYOP
This level of deception has been going on since the 1950's and 1960's at an accelerating rate. Following the psywar against civilians induced by the nuclear arms race 'crisis,' the subsequent JFK killing was indeed an assassination, but it was also at heart an extension of these 1950's nuke-scare psychological operations.
The killing of Kennedy was not necessary for political reasons -but it was a powerful tool for social control via psychological warfare. Kennedy was killed to deliberately drive the US population into a grief state which would hamper the development of political opposition.
This type of PsyOps directed at the civilian population was, and still is the modus operandi. By now, it has produced a range of operations as varied as AIDS, SARS, 9/11 and the G8/Live8 London bombing.
SUMMARY
Given the number of assets deployed in support of the 9/11 operation, and the operational requirements of the 9/11 attacks themselves, their origin is now clear. 9/11 was not carried out by some 'rogue group,' nor was it a fully official US Government-sanctioned operation.
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#1. To: All (#0)
(Edited)
I can't say I totally agree with this list of CIA fakes, but it is interesting nevertheless.
God is always good! Wow, libertypost, and Freerepublic aren't on that list. Without those two sites, I know this article is bunk.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#2. To: RickyJ (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)
Liberty Forum is on it though. Also I guess you didn't catch this at the bottom of the list: This is also not meant to be a fully comprehensive listing of all the fake websites.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#4. To: RickyJ (#0)
Dunne was disinfo himself.
Suspicion is directed instead onto the Israelis, the 'City of London', 'International Bankers', The Rockefellers, The Bildebergers, and most infamously, the ill-defined, so-called New World Order. Of course, some of these elements are complicit in certain events, but the aim is to downplay the U.S. establishment's guiding hand and the broad CFR/corporate support.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#5. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)
Just as the wording of polling questions is so important to the results, I would like to review the process used to make the call as to which are and which are not "fake." The FreeRepublic oversite is too obvious. I say, no way. Back to using my own head.
.......
“Why should they, the Americans, have trusted us? We were a bunch of Russians, socialist Russians.” -- Isser Harel, former head of Mossad, speaking of the unlikely union between America and the Marxist state of Israel.
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“They were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.” -- Excerpt of a police report concerning the arrest of 5 Israeli intelligence operatives after they were seen by witnesses filming the destruction of the Twin Towers in New York and cheering.
#6. To: RickyJ (#0)
Many, if not all, of the sites on that list are the sort of sites that the elite would love to silence. If anything, the author is probably a COINTELPRO operative of some type. http://abovetopsecret.com is rumored to be a CIA site as well as http://Freerepublic.com, and http://LibertyPost.org as of late is most certainly suspect. None of those are on the list, while sites that deliver inconvenient news that is well formatted and well researched are listed. As I said, the author is the one that should be suspect, not those sites he lists.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#7. To: RickyJ (#0)
Yeah, he's Irish...
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#8. To: FormerLurker, RickyJ, Eoghan, ++DisInfo Alert++, Jethro Tull, BTP Holdings, All (#6)
http://abovetopsecret.com is rumored to be a CIA site as well as http://Freerepublic.com, and http://LibertyPost.org as of late is most certainly suspect. None of those are on the list, while sites that deliver inconvenient news that is well formatted and well researched are listed. As I said, the author is the one that should be suspect, not those sites he lists. Sums it up, but Ricky's post is important just because of this.
Many, if not all, of the sites on that list are the sort of sites that the elite would love to silence. If anything, the author is probably a COINTELPRO operative of some type.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#9. To: FormerLurker (#6)
http://abovetopsecret.com is rumored to be a CIA site as well as http://Freerepublic.com, and http://LibertyPost.org as of late is most certainly suspect. None of those are on the list, while sites that deliver inconvenient news that is well formatted and well researched are listed. As I said, the author is the one that should be suspect, not those sites he lists. Totally agree that the author is COINTELPRO. Also, the fact that http://www.timebomb2000.com is not on the list shows that it is incomplete at best, a disinfo tactic at worst.
Many, if not all, of the sites on that list are the sort of sites that the elite would love to silence. If anything, the author is probably a COINTELPRO operative of some type.
#10. To: nabi (#9)
Welcome nabi! I've never heard of timebomb2000 but this list does look like disinfo spin. Really good disinfo is a better mix of truth with lies.
Totally agree that the author is COINTELPRO. Also, the fact that http://www.timebomb2000.com is not on the list shows that it is incomplete at best, a disinfo tactic at worst.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#11. To: robin (#8)
Yep. At this point in the game I have no idea how people can't see thru the smoke of FR & LP, LP especially. For anyone to waste their time "arguing" with government supporters bewilders me.
Disinfo
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
But that disinfo agents are publishing lists of CIA Internet Fakes is amusing. (see photo of author at Eoghan's post)
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#13. To: nabi (#9)
hi nabi, welcome to 4. :)
#14. To: RickyJ, Kamala, Arator, ALL (#0) (Edited)
do y'all notice this guy has listed just about every 911 Truth site? i see he's also included Jack Blood on it. dunne's another one full of sh!t...sorry, but this is really angering me. Jack Blood is a personal friend and i know for certain that he is not CIA.
#15. To: christine (#14)
He's not very clever. Eoghan noticed something funny about him.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#16. To: robin (#15)
mmmmmhmmmm...i see.
#17. To: christine (#14)
how about google http://911review.org/Alex/reference/google_and_seeeyeah.html
The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size
#18. To: christine (#16)
didn't this guy start babbling this crap a couple years ago, about the time the pentagon.swf video came out? i seem to remember his line pretty much following the norm, back on fu, with the main 9/11 truth logic until after his Sibel interview.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
#19. To: RickyJ, All (#0)
Add the various E-mail groups. I've duked it out with a lot of disinformationists on those. Regretably, I've closed down a couple of those groups, in the process of illustrating the psyops bullshit. Some of those were funny as hell. "Nico Haupt" laughed at me since the 767 engine in the NYC street was discovered on the NORTH side of the tower. Yeah, the aircraft approached from the south - where did he expect the engine to be found??? He kinda-sorta slinked off into the dark land of the "blue screen" people. A good place for him.
#20. To: SKYDRIFTER (#19)
May they all find such a resting place.
He kinda-sorta slinked off into the dark land of the "blue screen" people. A good place for him.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#21. To: omerta (#18)
i don't recall specifics...but didn't dunne go at with the wingtv'ers too? he's got them on the list. that must kill them. they're in company with alex jones now. btw, lmao, he's got john kaminski and rick stanley there too. what a dufus.
#22. To: christine (#21)
and everyone else that isn't dragging by their fingernails from his bandwagon.but didn't dunne go at with the wingtv'ers too?
hahahaha
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783
#23. To: omerta (#22)
hahahaha is right!
#24. To: christine (#21) (Edited)
On the positive side, this does provide a good list of sites to review. Some of them I haven't seen before...
#25. To: christine (#14)
I will reply to you only, for this will be my last on these couple loonytune threads and posts. This guy, along with Smith, Hufshimdt, WINGTV and others are a pure distraction. They are like children that want attention. I will not waste my time these bozos or anyone else that brings up the napalm, cgi images, pods, flashes, fission bombs angles of 911. I also will not waste my time with the "Israel did 911" crowd. Did the MOSSAD make FEMA set up in NYC on the 10th? Did Israel call mayors, governers and officials and tell them not to fly the east coast in late summer? Did Israel block low level CIA/FBI agents warnings to their superiors? Did the MOSSAD make the White House staff take CIPRO on the 11th? Did Israel plan all the war games and make NORAD/NEADS/FAA stand down? Did the MOSSAD make ASCE/FEMA/NIST/911 Commission cover up 911? I could go on forever. Did they benefit? Yes. Did they have prior knowledge? Yes. Was it part of the middle east "Clean Break" plan? Yes. Make no mistake, we didn't need their help, the plans were created and carried out by the criminals in our own government. Mark
#26. To: Kamala (#25)
Did they benefit? Yes. Did they have prior knowledge? Yes. Was it part of the middle east "Clean Break" plan? Yes. Make no mistake, we didn't need their help, the plans were created and carried out by the criminals in our own government. I have to agree with you. While the Israeli government leaves much to be desired, they did NOT plan and execute 9/11.
I also will not waste my time with the "Israel did 911" crowd. Did the MOSSAD make FEMA set up in NYC on the 10th? Did Israel call mayors, governers and officials and tell them not to fly the east coast in late summer? Did Israel block low level CIA/FBI agents warnings to their superiors? Did the MOSSAD make the White House staff take CIPRO on the 11th? Did Israel plan all the war games and make NORAD/NEADS/FAA stand down? Did the MOSSAD make ASCE/FEMA/NIST/911 Commission cover up 911? I could go on forever.
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