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Title: Goldi-Lox bans honway
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URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... gi?ArtNum=155359&Disp=165#C165
Published: Aug 17, 2006
Author: misc
Post Date: 2006-08-17 04:49:04 by FormerLurker
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Views: 3280
Comments: 205
Here's a link to the post that "Goldi-Lox" posted banning honway
Goldi bans honway
Looks like LP had a bit too much exposure and truth on it for the elite, who apparently are now calling the shots in a ploy to destroy it.
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#37. To: Brian S (#34)
ROTFLOL!
"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon
Honway, say it ain't so.
Thanks to all for your comments. After the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, there was a significant editorial change at LP. At the moment Goldi decided to censor articles unfavorable to Israel,she should have removed the word "liberty" from the name of the forum and edited the homepage. For me, the handwriting was on the wall when she moved a thread on a videotape of a FOX News report by Brit Hume and Carl Cameron concerning Israel to the Biker Bar. Thanks to all that have kept the home fires burning on a site that permits individuals to post that believe in the Constitution and a sovereign United States and reject the globalist vision of a steady march towards global government. I was banned at Freerepublic for opposing legislation that would restrict free speech critical of Israel on university campuses. I was banned at Libertypost for posting articles critical of Israel and zionism. I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.It is discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.
A far better home here. The "BACs" and "Goldis" fear this forum - as they should. Goldi, Badeye, BAC and the lot can daisey-chain each other, minus those devoted to the America that I grew up with. Welcome aboard!
I've always enjoyed your posts, honway. Please add me to your flag list here if you have room.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Welcome to 4. Post away in Freedom.
I was banned at Libertypost for posting articles critical of Israel and zionism. I see a pattern emerging here, you are a trouble maker aren't you? :) I'm not really sure how and why you stayed over there as long as you did, but I hope this means you will be posting here more often.
God is always good! You'll find that most here were on tos1 and tos2. They left whether by outright banning or asking for their account(s) to be removed in order to disassociate themselves for what you have experienced. As I noted above, I am not always enthused, excited, or downright disagree with what a good number of people here post. BUT, if I expect to enjoy the freedoms set out in the Constitution I vow that I love, honor, and respect, I must afford that same to those I disagree with. Where the real rub comes is when the opposition does not respond with answers, logical or otherwise persuasive, but instead come up with the bullshit 'you hate this or you hate that', or demand, because they can't stand the idea that others can be patriotic and yet see warts and wrinkles in the country they love. They prefer name calling, whether it is gutter talk or labels that are so blatently wrong. BTW, I don't think I have told you, but I've read lots of your posts and find them informative. I can't say that you've never become irate and uttered a few off=colored words, but I honestly can't recall such. Besides, I think most everyone leaves that kind of stuff to me to do. :)
discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....
It is discouraging, but your efforts have exposed more treason. Thank you!
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers And I can't think of another example. Maybe USSR for true devoted communists?
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers And at the same time they accuse those who disagree with them of being un- and anti-American.
Nothing is gained by excoriating LP and its mods. We went through this on LP, with FR being the subject of attack.
Goldi's deleting, moving or adding commentary to the titles of my threads was what pushed me over the edge, indeed. How many pro-Constitution patriots are left there now 3 or 4? Can't be many left. I noticed the other day that Badlies posted a thread claiming he could no longer support the GOP. Must be 'they' realize there is little balance remaining on the forum and an attempt is being made to artifically inject a bit of it.
He's completely uninvolved. LP was moved out of the SAPF office a long time ago.
Honway has a home here. LP is DEAD.
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." Hey honway, welcome. The Israeli issue is Goldi’s Achilles heel. Many here left LP just prior to the outbreak of the Iraqi war. We knew the rush to invade Iraq was driven by the PNAC papers and the clique of neocons in the Bush administration. In a similar experience to you, many of us saw LPs breaking news category abused. Stories involving Iraq were either removed or buried by nonsense posted by CaLOL or any number of the other imported administration harpies. The bulk of us then moved on to Freedom Underground and finally came to rest here. I’m certain you won’t like everything posted, after all every forum has a horse humper or two, but nothing’s perfect. Unlike LP you will have the freedom to say what’s on your mind even if it’s unpopular.
Welcome honway. When I was banned I was told any site like the Revolutionary Worker which has been around long before there was an Internet was of limits. This is fine but you can't call a forum a free speech forum open to all opinions if you do. I posted an article critical to the the Minutemen and was told I was hiding something because I posted the bare URL in the from section as I do with everything anyway. I don't even much like the RW, but it was Mayday, and the article was on a topic big at that time. Goldi is a hypocrite and an asshole. As you are more conservative, your banning creates far bigger waves in this virtual community then mine, and I hope you stay and post here as you resonate with many people here far better then I do in many ways. Sorry this happened, but considering the hypocrisy and dishonesty of Sally, this speaks well of your character you were banned, not badly. I never talked with you much, but I always enjoyed your post. Even where I disagreed, they were always thoughtful, well written and showed very much you know what you talk about when you comment and write about things. Nice to see you, I imagine more will be coming as Sally's job as a whore to the lie becomes deeper and much more convoluted in nature.
For the record, I've never posted on FR. Goldi did though. It wasn't taken from me. I voluntarily resigned. It was a disenchanting experience. It was far from a big deal compared to the lengths others have gone and risks taken, some of whom post here. But it's easy to see futility in restoring the republic when you come under scrutiny like that and look it in the face. LP took a lot of my time which went mainly toward trying to enable others to speak their minds, including the morons who have the idea that freedom means getting to cheer for one of the republicrat parties, and I got tired of working for them. The incident gave me cause to ponder whether my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not.
No doubt there is an attempt to be 'fair and balanced'--that is, of course, til after the elections. How easy it is to now come forth and bitch about the liar in chief's failed this or that! You mean to tell me, that as a businessman, this shill couldn't see the long term effects to all his business entities, let alone his wife, kids, and his own retired life, that what the liar in chief and his minions are doing to this country financially--for generations! This is the off-year election cycle--let's pretend it is state campaigns that are the 'really' important stuff; after all, we've been told a zillion times that 'politics is local'; and even that though digusted with the congresscowards, the majority of voters think their own personal congresscoward is doing a good job. Take away the 'national' limelight.........break it down into 'classes'....left hand not seeing what the right one is doing. That is what that whole phony crap that badlie was putting out. Leopards don't change spots and there hasn't been a Damascus road conversion in about 1950 years.
What you people can't deal with is that LP's tone varies from day to day based on those people who are posting. You want a site that has a FIXED Point of View, like FR or the other sites. Our membership fluctuates constantly, and since LP has no official position, the focus changes based on who is HERE posting!! Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-08-16 16:59:08 ET Reply Trace 221. To: ferret (#0) VOICE OF THE REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY, USA You have the GALL to post this garbage on LIBERTYPOST, but the cowardice to hide the real source. You cleverly put in http://rwor.org, and did not identify it as a REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY source?? I am totally ticked. You posted this flame bait, and argued with people, and did NOT identify that this was a COMMUNIST publication? And then you have the nerve to post the SWASTICA as a response to someone?? You are not here to debate, you are here to cause trouble, and I'm not sure that you belong on LP. LP members expect honesty and full disclosure. Not deception and baiting. Your account is suspended until further notice. Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-05-01 00:40:47 ET Reply Trace In an E mail she said there were publications she would not allow to be used as sources on LP and she is clearly lying in an inflammatory and intolerant manner in her last post to me. You are either a free speech forum or not. Saying LP varies based on the belief systems and view of the posters after she has been banning them because their views are different then hers' and because she can't abide by the sources personally shows what a hypocrite she is. She had no problem finding where I got the article from, because unlike Crystalk, I never hid where it was from. I showed her several time where he was posting inaccurately and hiding the source by deceptive use of the from box, so it was particularly infuriating she baited me with that particular false charge. She is a liar, and her forum is bullshit.
This thread has provided some interesting background on folks here and at tos 1 & 2.
that's the most galling part of all.
Wow, I'm sorry to hear this. I really disapprove of banning except in extreme cases of repeatedly using foul language, or posting personal data, or stalking another poster - crazy stuff. But not for posting content, or an opinion. It may just be an online forum, but it hurts to have someone disrespect you like this. Welcome to 4 - I think you'll find it one of the few bastians of freedom on the Net these days.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
Interesting that you say that. When I got involved with the tax rebs in 1982 in Los Angeles, I was on fire to get the message out. But, after seeing people run like scalded dogs and even testify against those who supplied the info that helped us escape the system, I became disenchanted and stopped teaching others. It was years later when I pissed off our former senior senator Bill Roth and our present junior senator Tom Carper (I'm in Delaware) that I suddenly received assessments from the IRS claiming I owed thousands of bux, which I never paid of course. It convinced me of one thing: The income tax will never be abolished because it's such a useful tool against those who dare to challenge the power of our arrogant incumbant-politicians-for-life. And, since most of the people I tried to help would say, "Yeah, all that history is real interesting but, get to the part about how I don't have to pay taxes" I no longer care about most Americans. And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured. Many will suffer and perish and I'm sorry for that. But, strong govt breeds weak citizens, and it won't be me that's killing them.
if you've the time and interest, there's more background on this thread. http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=31292&Disp=12#C11
And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured. couldn't agree more and the reason i choose to spend my time with (and learning from) those with open likeminds.
A good read, and, thank you.
Yes there is. Look up "catharsis." :) There is plenty to be gained!
"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life." Yes, as enforced,it's a very easy to use tool of political abuse since it tracks everyone's financial activity. I hear that. On the other hand though, I sometimes remind myself that I was once like them and if it were not for a few that chose to speak out, in all likelihood I'd still be with the masses. In that light it's a little hypocritical for me to not care.
OMG!!! HONWAY? Good lord....
Amen Dee.. we dont have to all agree .. but what we do agree on is people's right to voice their opinion..
lp started down their road when arator posted about the "contractors" in fallujah. you could see then that lp had other people's plans for it. i did enjoy the brief respite when badeye was banned by neil!
That's my opinion as well.
i am glad to see your excellent forum software has been put to good use
honway... when I was at LP you were one of the posters I always made a point to read .. always good research and very interesting.. I am sorry you got banned at LP but I see it this way, LP's loss is 4s gain ;)
Thank you.
Sure thing.
Thanks. I will be.
Many actually equate our country,America, with the people in government subverting the Constitution and selling out our sovereignty in the pursuit of global government. America is defined by its history and its people,not the bought and paid for politicians in Washington. Thanks for your comments.
angle, you may well be right as to the 'time' it started.........it was so obvious she had it in for Arator. He happened to be one of the stronger ones who would stand up and defend his position, and likewise stand up to her in her stupidity. Most people hate it when others correctly chide them or bring them down to size.
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#38. To: honway (#0)
#39. To: FormerLurker, RedJones, Cynicom, robin, Jethro Tull, BTP Holdings, rowdee, christine, Skydrifter, Fred Mertz (#0)
#40. To: honway (#39)
#41. To: honway (#39)
#42. To: honway (#39)
I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.It is discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.
#43. To: honway (#39)
I was banned at Freerepublic for opposing legislation that would restrict free speech critical of Israel on university campuses.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#44. To: honway (#39)
#45. To: honway (#39)
discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.
#46. To: honway (#39)
I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.It is discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.
#47. To: Cynicom (#45)
discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....
#48. To: Cynicom (#45)
discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....
#49. To: All (#0)
#50. To: honway (#39)
For me, the handwriting was on the wall when she moved a thread on a videotape of a FOX News report by Brit Hume and Carl Cameron concerning Israel to the Biker Bar.
#51. To: FormerLurker (#2)
I wonder how Kotmair fits into these recent developments...
#52. To: Red Jones, honway, formerlurker (#11)
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford
#53. To: honway (#39)
#54. To: honway (#39)
#55. To: Red Jones (#15)
I remember when Neil McIver posted on FR to ask people to look at LP.
And Neil partnered with people who took that site from him.
And I still think that incident with the police might've had something to do with Neil's exit over there.
#56. To: Brian S (#50)
#57. To: Brian S (#50)
40. To: Original_Intent (#18) Maybe - just maybe it's because new people sign up on LP, and the more anti- bush people are moving on to the several [solely ]anti-bush sites???
#58. To: christine, robin (#31)
#59. To: aristeides, Cynicom, honway, all (#48)
And at the same time they accuse those who disagree with them of being un- and anti-American.
#60. To: honway (#39)
#61. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#55)
It was a disenchanting experience. It was far from a big deal compared to the lengths others have gone and risks taken, some of whom post here. But it's easy to see futility in restoring the republic when you come under scrutiny like that and look it in the face. LP took a lot of my time which went mainly toward trying to enable others to speak their minds, including the morons who have the idea that freedom means getting to cheer for one of the republicrat parties, and I got tired of working for them. The incident gave me cause to ponder whether my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not.
#62. To: HOUNDDAWG (#58)
#63. To: HOUNDDAWG (#61)
"Yeah, all that history is real interesting but, get to the part about how I don't have to pay taxes" I no longer care about most Americans.
#64. To: christine (#62)
#65. To: DuQuoigne, christine, honway, jethro tull (#49)
Nothing is gained by excoriating LP and its mods.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford
#66. To: HOUNDDAWG (#61)
It convinced me of one thing: The income tax will never be abolished because it's such a useful tool against those who dare to challenge the power of our arrogant incumbant-politicians-for-life.
And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured.
But, strong govt breeds weak citizens, and it won't be me that's killing them.
#67. To: FormerLurker (#0)
#68. To: christine, rowdee (#33)
well said.
#69. To: FormerLurker (#0)
#70. To: Ferret Mike (#57)
She is a liar, and her forum is bullshit.
#71. To: Neil McIver (#55)
my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not
#72. To: honway (#39)
#73. To: SKYDRIFTER (#40)
Welcome aboard!
#74. To: bluegrass (#41)
Please add me to your flag list here if you have room.
#75. To: RickyJ (#43)
I'm not really sure how and why you stayed over there as long as you did, but I hope this means you will be posting here more often
#76. To: rowdee (#44)
Where the real rub comes is when the opposition does not respond with answers, logical or otherwise persuasive, but instead come up with the bullshit 'you hate this or you hate that', or demand, because they can't stand the idea that others can be patriotic and yet see warts and wrinkles in the country they love. They prefer name calling, whether it is gutter talk or labels that are so blatently wrong.
#77. To: angle, Arator, FormerLurker (#69)
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