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Title: Goldi-Lox bans honway
Source: ElPee
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... gi?ArtNum=155359&Disp=165#C165
Published: Aug 17, 2006
Author: misc
Post Date: 2006-08-17 04:49:04 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 4000
Comments: 205

Here's a link to the post that "Goldi-Lox" posted banning honway

Goldi bans honway Looks like LP had a bit too much exposure and truth on it for the elite, who apparently are now calling the shots in a ploy to destroy it.

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#59. To: aristeides, Cynicom, honway, all (#48)

And at the same time they accuse those who disagree with them of being un- and anti-American.

that's the most galling part of all.

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   17:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: honway (#39)

Wow, I'm sorry to hear this. I really disapprove of banning except in extreme cases of repeatedly using foul language, or posting personal data, or stalking another poster - crazy stuff. But not for posting content, or an opinion. It may just be an online forum, but it hurts to have someone disrespect you like this.

Welcome to 4 - I think you'll find it one of the few bastians of freedom on the Net these days.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-17   17:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#55)

It was a disenchanting experience. It was far from a big deal compared to the lengths others have gone and risks taken, some of whom post here. But it's easy to see futility in restoring the republic when you come under scrutiny like that and look it in the face. LP took a lot of my time which went mainly toward trying to enable others to speak their minds, including the morons who have the idea that freedom means getting to cheer for one of the republicrat parties, and I got tired of working for them. The incident gave me cause to ponder whether my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not.

Interesting that you say that.

When I got involved with the tax rebs in 1982 in Los Angeles, I was on fire to get the message out.

But, after seeing people run like scalded dogs and even testify against those who supplied the info that helped us escape the system, I became disenchanted and stopped teaching others.

It was years later when I pissed off our former senior senator Bill Roth and our present junior senator Tom Carper (I'm in Delaware) that I suddenly received assessments from the IRS claiming I owed thousands of bux, which I never paid of course.

It convinced me of one thing: The income tax will never be abolished because it's such a useful tool against those who dare to challenge the power of our arrogant incumbant-politicians-for-life.

And, since most of the people I tried to help would say, "Yeah, all that history is real interesting but, get to the part about how I don't have to pay taxes" I no longer care about most Americans.

And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured.

Many will suffer and perish and I'm sorry for that.

But, strong govt breeds weak citizens, and it won't be me that's killing them.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-08-17   17:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: HOUNDDAWG (#58)

if you've the time and interest, there's more background on this thread.

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=31292&Disp=12#C11

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   18:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: HOUNDDAWG (#61)

"Yeah, all that history is real interesting but, get to the part about how I don't have to pay taxes" I no longer care about most Americans.

And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured.

couldn't agree more and the reason i choose to spend my time with (and learning from) those with open likeminds.

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   18:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine (#62)

A good read, and, thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-08-17   18:25:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: DuQuoigne, christine, honway, jethro tull (#49)

Nothing is gained by excoriating LP and its mods.

Yes there is. Look up "catharsis." :) There is plenty to be gained!


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

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-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
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IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-17   18:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: HOUNDDAWG (#61)

It convinced me of one thing: The income tax will never be abolished because it's such a useful tool against those who dare to challenge the power of our arrogant incumbant-politicians-for-life.

Yes, as enforced,it's a very easy to use tool of political abuse since it tracks everyone's financial activity.

And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured.

I hear that.

But, strong govt breeds weak citizens, and it won't be me that's killing them.

On the other hand though, I sometimes remind myself that I was once like them and if it were not for a few that chose to speak out, in all likelihood I'd still be with the masses. In that light it's a little hypocritical for me to not care.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-17   18:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: FormerLurker (#0)

OMG!!! HONWAY? Good lord....

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-17   19:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: christine, rowdee (#33)

well said.

Amen Dee.. we dont have to all agree .. but what we do agree on is people's right to voice their opinion..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-17   19:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker (#0)

lp started down their road when arator posted about the "contractors" in fallujah. you could see then that lp had other people's plans for it. i did enjoy the brief respite when badeye was banned by neil!

angle  posted on  2006-08-17   19:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ferret Mike (#57)

She is a liar, and her forum is bullshit.

That's my opinion as well.

angle  posted on  2006-08-17   19:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Neil McIver (#55)

my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not

i am glad to see your excellent forum software has been put to good use

angle  posted on  2006-08-17   19:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: honway (#39)

honway... when I was at LP you were one of the posters I always made a point to read .. always good research and very interesting.. I am sorry you got banned at LP but I see it this way, LP's loss is 4s gain ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-17   19:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: SKYDRIFTER (#40)

Welcome aboard!

Thank you.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: bluegrass (#41)

Please add me to your flag list here if you have room.

Sure thing.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: RickyJ (#43)

I'm not really sure how and why you stayed over there as long as you did, but I hope this means you will be posting here more often

Thanks. I will be.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: rowdee (#44)

Where the real rub comes is when the opposition does not respond with answers, logical or otherwise persuasive, but instead come up with the bullshit 'you hate this or you hate that', or demand, because they can't stand the idea that others can be patriotic and yet see warts and wrinkles in the country they love. They prefer name calling, whether it is gutter talk or labels that are so blatently wrong.

Many actually equate our country,America, with the people in government subverting the Constitution and selling out our sovereignty in the pursuit of global government. America is defined by its history and its people,not the bought and paid for politicians in Washington.

Thanks for your comments.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: angle, Arator, FormerLurker (#69)

angle, you may well be right as to the 'time' it started.........it was so obvious she had it in for Arator. He happened to be one of the stronger ones who would stand up and defend his position, and likewise stand up to her in her stupidity. Most people hate it when others correctly chide them or bring them down to size.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-17   21:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Cynicom (#45)

discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....

I like the way you said it better.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: honway (#75)

Glad to see you, honway. Put me on your list also.

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-17   21:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: robin (#46)

It is discouraging, but your efforts have exposed more treason.

Thanks.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: honway (#39)

I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.

You and me both. I'm sorry about what happened to you at elPee.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-17   21:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Brian S (#50)

How many pro-Constitution patriots are left there now 3 or 4? Can't be many left.

The ones remainig have a tough row to hoe.The majority posting there appear to have a greater allegiance to Israel than they do to their own country.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: IndieTX (#52)

Honway has a home here.

Thanks, IndieTX.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

We knew the rush to invade Iraq was driven by the PNAC papers and the clique of neocons in the Bush administration

That was a very wise call.

I actually believed the Administration when the following statement was made:

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." Dick Cheney August 26, 2002.

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Simply stated,there is no doubt we were intentionally lied to.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

I never talked with you much, but I always enjoyed your post.

Thanks for your generous comments.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: mehitable (#60)

Welcome to 4 - I think you'll find it one of the few bastians of freedom on the Net these days.

Thanks.

The participants here are doing a great job of providing an alternative to the mainstream Ministry of Truth media.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: honway (#84)

Simply stated,there is no doubt we were intentionally lied to

My age saved my ass. I believed Shrub so much I called every branch to attempt enlistment the week after 9-11. At that time, they all laughed and said I was too old [45]...I wouldn't have been had Shrub changed the rules earlier. Thank God I was too old, and thank God my eyes were opened.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-17   22:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Zipporah (#72)

Thank you.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: BTP Holdings (#79)

Put me on your list also.

Will do.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Fred Mertz (#81)

I'm sorry about what happened to you at elPee.

Isn't it ironic.

I believe one of the most serious national security threats to our nation is the fact the Israeli/Jewish Lobby exerts too much influence on the politicians in Washington and I end up on two different forums where the management places Israeli interests above U.S. interests.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: honway (#80)

To: robin

It is discouraging, but your efforts have exposed more treason.

I must echo robin's sentiments.

LP has become Isreali Central.

I have always appreciated your efforts to expose malfeasance.

There ought to be limits to freedom. - G.W. Bush, 21 May 1999

rack42  posted on  2006-08-17   22:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: honway (#90)

She didn't even have the decency to answer your simple question before you were banned, huh?

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-17   22:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: IndieTX (#87)

I believed Shrub

Me,too. My eyes began to open after investigating the five "middle eastern" men arrested in the Memphis driver's license scam. Two of them were working in the WTC basement just prior to the attack. A black woman participating in the license fraud was burned alive with gasoline while she was inside one of the "middle eastern" men's car.The man just happened to be from Jerusalem.Katherine Smith was burned alive and all her accomplices walked, including the two unlicensed plumbers working on the sprinkler system in the WTC. Long story, but that is where it started for me.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: rack42 (#91)

There ought to be limits to freedom. - G.W. Bush, 21 May 1999

Thanks.

Great tagline. That says all we need to know about W.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: angle (#71)

Thank you!

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-17   22:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Critter (#92)

She didn't even have the decency to answer your simple question before you were banned, huh?

No.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: honway (#96)

I'm taking on Goldi and lardass Luis Gonzalez right now.

I'll survive.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-17   22:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Fred Mertz (#97)

I'm taking on Goldi and lardass Luis Gonzalez right now.

Link please. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-17   22:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: honway (#96)

No.

Bitch. lol

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-17   22:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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