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Title: Goldi-Lox bans honway
Source: ElPee
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... gi?ArtNum=155359&Disp=165#C165
Published: Aug 17, 2006
Author: misc
Post Date: 2006-08-17 04:49:04 by FormerLurker
Keywords: None
Views: 4044
Comments: 205

Here's a link to the post that "Goldi-Lox" posted banning honway

Goldi bans honway Looks like LP had a bit too much exposure and truth on it for the elite, who apparently are now calling the shots in a ploy to destroy it.

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#1. To: honway (#0)

Welcome to the banned from LP crowd honway, and I thank you for sticking up for me against Goldi's lies and slander.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-17   4:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: honway, All (#0) (Edited)

Concerning the thread you posted that Goldi didn't like, I wouldn't doubt that many of "Goldi's" actions are either the result of outside influence, or that she has truly lost her mind. I suspected Crystalk filling her role due to some of his remarks, but it appears that [Real name Pulled] is the one behind the insanity, whether or not it is her or some surrogate actually pulling the trigger.

I wonder how Kotmair fits into these recent developments...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-17   5:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: FormerLurker (#2)

I am no fan of Goldi-Lox, but I wouldn't be publishing her real name without her permission. There are a lot of crazy people on the Internet.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-17   5:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: honway (#1)

Moldi-Lox: I will leave the door open for him to contact me via email [goldi@libertypost.org) for further discussions if he chooses to do so. I am not eager to take this action, but I am not willing to let the situation remain as it is.

Actually honway, it looks like she liked you better than me. I am heart broken, devastated, boo hoo hoo. LOL, I must have done something right.. :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-17   5:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: RickyJ (#3)

I am no fan of Goldi-Lox, but I wouldn't be publishing her real name without her permission. There are a lot of crazy people on the Internet.

Her name is already public domain as it has already been posted on several different forums. Do a Google search on it, you'll see what I mean.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-17   5:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ (#3)

BTW, ClownePosse wasn't the only site mentioning her and her involvement with LP.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-17   5:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: RickyJ (#3)

I am no fan of Goldi-Lox, but I wouldn't be publishing her real name without her permission.

Anyone that publicly solicits money as Goldi does, automatically loses any right to anonimity.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-17   8:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: FormerLurker (#0)

No news articles have been removed unless they had a foreign language in them.

I've removed 2 that had arabic in them.

With our terror threat, I don't know if that could be a signal to do a deed or not, and I don't want homeland security shutting down LP.

Look at Goldi's latest excuse for censorship (above). I'm speechless (pun intended).

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-08-17   8:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: FormerLurker (#0)

For those of us who have seen the rise and fall of tFR, LP is taking a similar path. Forums over time tend to become infiltrated. 4um being the exception with our bot-proof hermetic seal in place.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-17   8:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Arator (#8)

"I don't want homeland security shutting down LP." - Goldi

She'd rather filter content for their own good :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-17   8:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker, honway, Goldi-Lox (#0)

thanks for showing us this.

honway was one of the best posters ever - on any forum.

it speaks highly of him that he lasted as long as he did on that forum.

Goldi is an idiot and rotten too.

honway did fantastic research and showed many important stories.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-17   8:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

Forums over time tend to become infiltrated

amazing isn't it? - and they say we live in a free country.

there's only little pockets of free-thinking and free-speech - and a cloud of deception everywhere. IMHO we take pride in our nation's legacy of freedom at our peril.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-17   8:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Red Jones (#11)

honway was one of the best posters ever - on any forum.

Like TOS, LP is owned and operated by those with an agenda.

Truth on such forums has become an unwanted step-child.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-17   8:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker, honway, OKCSubmariner, aristeides, Fred Mertz, Bill D Berger (#0)

The no-no history not even to be explored or discussed.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32600&Disp

Title: THE TRUTH ABOUT KHAZARS
Source: Facts are Facts
URL Source: http://www.iamthewitness.com/FreedmanFactsAreFacts.html
Published: Aug 16, 2006
Author: Benjamin H. Freedman
Post Date: 2006-08-16 10:25:32 by honway

To: All (#0)

Libertypost Homepage:" We do not limit discussion to any specific political point of view, since truth can only exist where there is freedom to discuss those issues. There is no censorship of political ideas here."

I posted this on Libertypost and it was promptly censored and deleted.

It appears there is not only censorship of political ideas,but censorship of history at "Liberty" Post.

honway posted on 2006-08-16 10:29:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   9:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#13)

I remember when Neil McIver posted on FR to ask people to look at LP. Neil started that site with such sincerity and good will and hard work too. JimRob at least appeared to be like that too in the early days. Now JimRob makes 6 figures and others run the site. And Neil partnered with people who took that site from him. And I still think that incident with the police might've had something to do with Neil's exit over there. I remember when FR was a great site. and look what happened on both sites. the march of the fascists is very strong.

others will disagree - but as for me - I see no option but to praise the lord and turn our eyes and our hearts to the one that made us. man has failed. what more evidence do we need! vengeance by our maker against the errant ways of man is at our doorstep. We must take shelter in the house that will not be broken. other options are wishful thinking.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-17   9:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Red Jones (#12)

amazing isn't it? - and they say we live in a free country.

It is amazing, and this joint isn't free by any stretch of the imagination. It's freer than most of the other globalist trading zones recently established, but when a handful of companies own both the oil resources and media outlets, and when these entities lobby law into existence, fascists are empowered. Corporate fascism is alive and well in Washington, DC.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-17   9:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Red Jones (#15)

good post

follow the money

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   9:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#14)

honway is a tough character.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-17   9:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Red Jones (#15)

I remember when FR was a great site. and look what happened on both sites. the march of the fascists is very strong.

I lasted 8 years at FR. Less than a year at LP.

Money subverts those of weak moral character.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-17   9:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: FormerLurker, honway (#0)

I remember when I first started posting on LP. I came under vicious attack from the bots and honway was one who was supportive at that time.

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-17   9:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#19)

I don't know how you lasted so long at FR. LP was a good forum for refugees from FR when Neil McIver started it. When he left, leaving Goldi in charge, it began a rapid downhill descent. The 4 in the name of this forum (also) represents that this is the 4th forum for many of us.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   9:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BTP Holdings (#20)

I remember the day when you first started posting there. I was the first person to reply to you, and I welcomed you. You posted a lot of good articles.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-17   9:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#21)

I don't know how you lasted so long at FR

I never took Robinson seriously.

Years ago we had mutual acquaintances so I had some idea as to what to expect.

When the Israeli propaganda machine took control, that was the end of the line for many of the posters.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-17   9:31:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom (#23)

For me it was when he banned good posters because they spoke of a 3rd party, then went on to ban good posters who criticized Smirk's policies. And there were a lot of us, like the late harpseal, who were not happy with Smirk's trade and economic policies. I remember thinking that all we needed to do was raise Smirk's level of awareness. Actually, FR helped me see how awful this administration really was. But it was at LP, where good discussion was still available that I met the folks here at this forum. My enlightenment grew after Abu Ghraib, and eventually I was willing to take a look at 9/11 conspiracy theories, as well as some others.

harpseal's last post:

To: Beelzebubba

Does anyone have a hint as to what they are really objecting to here?

Any firearm not in the hands of a gibbermint agent.

15 posted on 03/18/2004 2:21:51 PM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)

And his homepage:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~harpseal/

This is what FR was about, once upon a time. I believe JR was blackmailed and bribed. I don't know how, but he changed dramatically and there is evidence that blackmail and bribery are used by this administration when it suits them.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   9:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#24)

but he changed dramatically and there is evidence that blackmail and bribery are used by this administration when it suits them.

It goes beyond the "administration/RNC", way beyond.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-17   9:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#25)

I agree, it is both sides of the aisle, at the very least. Beyond that, we can only guess (NWO, Bilderbergers, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Illuminati, Prince Philip, Israel, etc.). We know they are out there, but like the wind, we can't see them.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   9:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: RickyJ (#3)

"I am no fan of Goldi-Lox, but I wouldn't be publishing her real name without her permission. There are a lot of crazy people on the Internet."

Ironic statement, considering she fits that category. She is an irrational megalomaniac. In any event I wouldn't have posted her full name either, but I would point out she has no consideration for anyone else's name either.

She accused me of posting with two nicks even though I went out of my way to identify that there were two people posting from here out of courtesy to her a long time ago.

I don't like another person's words attributed to me, but she has let her suspicions get the best of her and opened herself up to potential lawsuit by doing so if I want to bother going that route.

At least now she might have a bit more empathy regarding how I feel about her disrespect to me and a personal friend whom I introduced to the world of political forums several years ago.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-17   9:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Red Jones (#22) (Edited)

I remember the day when you first started posting there. I was the first person to reply to you, and I welcomed you. You posted a lot of good articles.

I remember that, Red. Thanks again.

I also remember how much the bots hated the truth when I would smack them upside the head with it. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-17   9:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: FormerLurker (#0)

Sally Cant Dance by Lou Reed

Sally dances on the floor
She says that she cant do it anymore
She walks down st. marks place
And eats natural food at my place

Now sally cant dance no more
She cant get off of the floor
Sally cant dance no more
They found her in the trunk of a ford Ooohhh, she cant dance no more

Sally is loosing her face
She lives on st. marks place
In a rent-controlled apartment, eighty dollars a month
She has lots of fun, she has lots of fun, but

Sally cant dance no more, ooohhh Sally cant dance no more
She took too much meth and cant get off the floor
Now sally, she cant dance no more

She was the first girl in the neighborhood To wear tied-dyed pants, ah, like she should
She was the first girl that I ever seen That had flowers painted on her jeans
She was the first girl in her neighborhood Who got raped on tompkins square, real good
Now she wears a sword, like napoleon
And she kills the boys and acts like a son

Sally cant dance no more, ooohhh, now Sally cant dance no more
She cant get herself off the floor, ah, huh Sally, ooohhh, she cant dance no more

Watch this, now
Sally became a big model
She moved up to eighties and park
She had a studio apartment And thats where she used to ball, folk singers And
thats where she used to ball, folk singers, but

Sally, she cant dance no more Sally, she cant dance no more Sally cant get herself off of the floor
Now, sally, she cant dance no more (sally cant dance) (sally cant dance)

She knew all the really right people
She went to le jardin
She danced with picassos illegitimate mistress
And wore kenneth lane jewels, really its trash, but

Sally cant dance no more, ooohhh Sally cant dance no more
She cant get herself off of the floor

Now, sally, ooohhh, she cant dance no more, no more Dance, no more cant ...
(sally cant dance, sally cant dance) (sally cant dance, sally cant dance) (sally cant dance, sally cant dance) (sally cant dance, sally cant dance) ... repeat and fade out

I went to the park and saw this kid flying a kite. The kid was really excited. I don't know why, that's what they're supposed to do. Now if he had had a chair on the other end of that string, I would have been impressed. -Mitch Hedberg

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-08-17   10:01:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: FormerLurker, Christine, Zipporah, Neill McIver (#0)

Connecting dots........ It appears that honway's article regarding the Khazars was pulled and she/it is using honway's 'obnoxiousness and lack of understanding of rules and regs and definitions' as an excuse.

And yet, scanning thru some of that shit, she/it clearly indicates she/it is aware that the site and its focus changes daily based on who is posting.

Very telling is the fact that in the article itself, there was a Lt. Col. who attended the meeting the writer was involved with, who was something like an 18 year teacher of history and head of some major institute of higher learning AND the Lt. Col SAID THAT HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF THE KHAZARS.

Hello, stupid one (that's the goldi one to all those in NYC)........if someone with that level of education and status in life doesn't know diddly squat about that group, it seems that would be news--like a new civilization had been found or something ! You know damned good and well if there was something found out about the alleged Atlantians (from the ''lost continent of Atlantis') there would be no problem posting that....

Quite bluntly, the reason would be due to the fact that Atlantis is not connected to jewry or zionism. Stupid one is too stupid to realize that the more that jewry or zionism is discussed, a better understanding of those people is gained by everyone....and everyone should be after the truth, regardless of which road it leads one down.

Refusal to allow any articles to mention, let alone discuss, topics such as how/where/when nations/races/ethnic groups devolved, especially in light of how they touch on current daily lives isn't going to make the truth go away. Granted she/it will not have to see it--there is nothing like willful blindness. Nothing quite like those who refuse to see......

I can't imagine why truthseekers want to hang out at places like tos1 and tos2-- they seem to cover 'truth AS THEY SEE IT', just as DU and others on the left side of the aisle cover 'truth AS THEY SEE IT'.

Our owners and Neil are to be congratulated on ACTUALLY believing in and practicing free speech. I can tell you that I don't agree with a number of things that go on here.....but the hardest thing to get thru the skull is that others are allowed to voice their opinion just as I am.

And while I have some disagreements, by being able to state my views, lurkers or just readers are able to see that there are differences. And there's a chance my 'view' of reality or truth willl cause them to think a little more about the subject at hand.

It's really interesting now that we can compare the number of 'views' with replies. This is interesting to look at. And I can tell you, it happens on other types of internet boards.

I have a pet equine-related forum that I visit and it's amazing that you'll see perhaps 4 people reply to a thread and read that there have been 108 views, or reads, of the article/joke/pics/whatever.

That's just one instance that I recall, but it's the standard rule, it seems...so we really do reach a lot more people than what we'd be led to believe if we were only looking at replies--even if you were to go thru and physically count the number of individual posters.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-17   11:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Neil McIver (#0)

fyi

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   11:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Arator (#8)

Look at Goldi's latest excuse for censorship (above). I'm speechless (pun intended).

laughing....

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   11:50:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rowdee, Zipporah (#30)

Refusal to allow any articles to mention, let alone discuss, topics such as how/where/when nations/races/ethnic groups devolved, especially in light of how they touch on current daily lives isn't going to make the truth go away. Granted she/it will not have to see it--there is nothing like willful blindness. Nothing quite like those who refuse to see......

I can't imagine why truthseekers want to hang out at places like tos1 and tos2-- they seem to cover 'truth AS THEY SEE IT', just as DU and others on the left side of the aisle cover 'truth AS THEY SEE IT'.

Our owners and Neil are to be congratulated on ACTUALLY believing in and practicing free speech. I can tell you that I don't agree with a number of things that go on here.....but the hardest thing to get thru the skull is that others are allowed to voice their opinion just as I am.

well said.

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   12:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#5)

Her name is already public domain as it has already been posted on several different forums. Do a Google search on it, you'll see what I mean.

For some time after Sally was forced to register the domain name of LP herself, her real name and even address right down to the apartment number was listed and for all to see by performing a "WhoIs" on the site.

That has since changed to a generic "Gold Lox" now however.

I'm not sure she is in compliance with domain name registration requirements however.

IIRC there was some action being taken by the domain gods requiring actual names and contact info for domain reg. Homeland Security thing I believe.

Brian S  posted on  2006-08-17   12:05:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: FormerLurker, All (#0)

His great character is attested to by the character of his enemies.

So mote it be!

Goldi sits on her own dildo, fantacizing that someone would ever want to rape her. Nothing like a self-deluded martyr with control in one hand and power in the other.



SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-17   12:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Nintendo of the Gods, Fred Mertz, buckeroo, aristeides, 82marine89, CAPPSMADNESS, ..., mehitable, Burkeman1, jessejane, Phant2000, orangedog, ragin1, Critter (#0)

ping!

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   12:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Brian S (#34)

Homeland Security thing I believe

ROTFLOL!

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-17   12:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: honway (#0)

Honway, say it ain't so.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-17   12:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: FormerLurker, RedJones, Cynicom, robin, Jethro Tull, BTP Holdings, rowdee, christine, Skydrifter, Fred Mertz (#0)

Thanks to all for your comments.

After the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, there was a significant editorial change at LP. At the moment Goldi decided to censor articles unfavorable to Israel,she should have removed the word "liberty" from the name of the forum and edited the homepage.

For me, the handwriting was on the wall when she moved a thread on a videotape of a FOX News report by Brit Hume and Carl Cameron concerning Israel to the Biker Bar.

Thanks to all that have kept the home fires burning on a site that permits individuals to post that believe in the Constitution and a sovereign United States and reject the globalist vision of a steady march towards global government.

I was banned at Freerepublic for opposing legislation that would restrict free speech critical of Israel on university campuses.

I was banned at Libertypost for posting articles critical of Israel and zionism.

I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.It is discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   14:17:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: honway (#39)

A far better home here. The "BACs" and "Goldis" fear this forum - as they should.

Goldi, Badeye, BAC and the lot can daisey-chain each other, minus those devoted to the America that I grew up with.

Welcome aboard!

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-17   14:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: honway (#39)

I've always enjoyed your posts, honway. Please add me to your flag list here if you have room.

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-17   14:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: honway (#39)

I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.It is discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.

Welcome to 4.

Post away in Freedom.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod  posted on  2006-08-17   14:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: honway (#39)

I was banned at Freerepublic for opposing legislation that would restrict free speech critical of Israel on university campuses.

I was banned at Libertypost for posting articles critical of Israel and zionism.

I see a pattern emerging here, you are a trouble maker aren't you? :)

I'm not really sure how and why you stayed over there as long as you did, but I hope this means you will be posting here more often.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-17   14:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: honway (#39)

You'll find that most here were on tos1 and tos2. They left whether by outright banning or asking for their account(s) to be removed in order to disassociate themselves for what you have experienced.

As I noted above, I am not always enthused, excited, or downright disagree with what a good number of people here post. BUT, if I expect to enjoy the freedoms set out in the Constitution I vow that I love, honor, and respect, I must afford that same to those I disagree with.

Where the real rub comes is when the opposition does not respond with answers, logical or otherwise persuasive, but instead come up with the bullshit 'you hate this or you hate that', or demand, because they can't stand the idea that others can be patriotic and yet see warts and wrinkles in the country they love. They prefer name calling, whether it is gutter talk or labels that are so blatently wrong.

BTW, I don't think I have told you, but I've read lots of your posts and find them informative. I can't say that you've never become irate and uttered a few off=colored words, but I honestly can't recall such. Besides, I think most everyone leaves that kind of stuff to me to do. :)

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-17   14:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: honway (#39)

discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.

discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-17   15:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: honway (#39)

I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.It is discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above that essential element of liberty called free speech.

It is discouraging, but your efforts have exposed more treason. Thank you!

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   15:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#45)

discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....

And I can't think of another example. Maybe USSR for true devoted communists?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-17   15:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Cynicom (#45)

discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....

And at the same time they accuse those who disagree with them of being un- and anti-American.

aristeides  posted on  2006-08-17   15:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#0)

Nothing is gained by excoriating LP and its mods. We went through this on LP, with FR being the subject of attack.

DuQuoigne  posted on  2006-08-17   15:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: honway (#39)

For me, the handwriting was on the wall when she moved a thread on a videotape of a FOX News report by Brit Hume and Carl Cameron concerning Israel to the Biker Bar.

Goldi's deleting, moving or adding commentary to the titles of my threads was what pushed me over the edge, indeed.

How many pro-Constitution patriots are left there now 3 or 4? Can't be many left.

I noticed the other day that Badlies posted a thread claiming he could no longer support the GOP. Must be 'they' realize there is little balance remaining on the forum and an attempt is being made to artifically inject a bit of it.

Brian S  posted on  2006-08-17   15:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: FormerLurker (#2)

I wonder how Kotmair fits into these recent developments...

He's completely uninvolved. LP was moved out of the SAPF office a long time ago.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-17   16:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Red Jones, honway, formerlurker (#11)

Honway has a home here. LP is DEAD.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-17   16:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: honway (#39)

Hey honway, welcome.

The Israeli issue is Goldi’s Achilles heel. Many here left LP just prior to the outbreak of the Iraqi war. We knew the rush to invade Iraq was driven by the PNAC papers and the clique of neocons in the Bush administration. In a similar experience to you, many of us saw LPs breaking news category abused. Stories involving Iraq were either removed or buried by nonsense posted by CaLOL or any number of the other imported administration harpies. The bulk of us then moved on to Freedom Underground and finally came to rest here. I’m certain you won’t like everything posted, after all every forum has a horse humper or two, but nothing’s perfect. Unlike LP you will have the freedom to say what’s on your mind even if it’s unpopular.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-17   16:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: honway (#39)

Welcome honway. When I was banned I was told any site like the Revolutionary Worker which has been around long before there was an Internet was of limits. This is fine but you can't call a forum a free speech forum open to all opinions if you do.

I posted an article critical to the the Minutemen and was told I was hiding something because I posted the bare URL in the from section as I do with everything anyway.

I don't even much like the RW, but it was Mayday, and the article was on a topic big at that time.

Goldi is a hypocrite and an asshole. As you are more conservative, your banning creates far bigger waves in this virtual community then mine, and I hope you stay and post here as you resonate with many people here far better then I do in many ways.

Sorry this happened, but considering the hypocrisy and dishonesty of Sally, this speaks well of your character you were banned, not badly.

I never talked with you much, but I always enjoyed your post. Even where I disagreed, they were always thoughtful, well written and showed very much you know what you talk about when you comment and write about things.

Nice to see you, I imagine more will be coming as Sally's job as a whore to the lie becomes deeper and much more convoluted in nature.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-17   16:38:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Red Jones (#15)

I remember when Neil McIver posted on FR to ask people to look at LP.

For the record, I've never posted on FR. Goldi did though.

And Neil partnered with people who took that site from him.

It wasn't taken from me. I voluntarily resigned.

And I still think that incident with the police might've had something to do with Neil's exit over there.

It was a disenchanting experience. It was far from a big deal compared to the lengths others have gone and risks taken, some of whom post here. But it's easy to see futility in restoring the republic when you come under scrutiny like that and look it in the face. LP took a lot of my time which went mainly toward trying to enable others to speak their minds, including the morons who have the idea that freedom means getting to cheer for one of the republicrat parties, and I got tired of working for them. The incident gave me cause to ponder whether my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-17   16:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Brian S (#50)

No doubt there is an attempt to be 'fair and balanced'--that is, of course, til after the elections. How easy it is to now come forth and bitch about the liar in chief's failed this or that! You mean to tell me, that as a businessman, this shill couldn't see the long term effects to all his business entities, let alone his wife, kids, and his own retired life, that what the liar in chief and his minions are doing to this country financially--for generations!

This is the off-year election cycle--let's pretend it is state campaigns that are the 'really' important stuff; after all, we've been told a zillion times that 'politics is local'; and even that though digusted with the congresscowards, the majority of voters think their own personal congresscoward is doing a good job.

Take away the 'national' limelight.........break it down into 'classes'....left hand not seeing what the right one is doing.

That is what that whole phony crap that badlie was putting out. Leopards don't change spots and there hasn't been a Damascus road conversion in about 1950 years.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-17   16:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Brian S (#50)

40. To: Original_Intent (#18) Maybe - just maybe it's because new people sign up on LP, and the more anti- bush people are moving on to the several [solely ]anti-bush sites???

What you people can't deal with is that LP's tone varies from day to day based on those people who are posting. You want a site that has a FIXED Point of View, like FR or the other sites.

Our membership fluctuates constantly, and since LP has no official position, the focus changes based on who is HERE posting!!

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-08-16 16:59:08 ET Reply Trace

221. To: ferret (#0)

VOICE OF THE REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY, USA You have the GALL to post this garbage on LIBERTYPOST, but the cowardice to hide the real source.

You cleverly put in http://rwor.org, and did not identify it as a REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY source??

I am totally ticked.

You posted this flame bait, and argued with people, and did NOT identify that this was a COMMUNIST publication?

And then you have the nerve to post the SWASTICA as a response to someone??

You are not here to debate, you are here to cause trouble, and I'm not sure that you belong on LP.

LP members expect honesty and full disclosure. Not deception and baiting.

Your account is suspended until further notice.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-05-01 00:40:47 ET Reply Trace

In an E mail she said there were publications she would not allow to be used as sources on LP and she is clearly lying in an inflammatory and intolerant manner in her last post to me.

You are either a free speech forum or not. Saying LP varies based on the belief systems and view of the posters after she has been banning them because their views are different then hers' and because she can't abide by the sources personally shows what a hypocrite she is.

She had no problem finding where I got the article from, because unlike Crystalk, I never hid where it was from. I showed her several time where he was posting inaccurately and hiding the source by deceptive use of the from box, so it was particularly infuriating she baited me with that particular false charge.

She is a liar, and her forum is bullshit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-17   17:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: christine, robin (#31)

This thread has provided some interesting background on folks here and at tos 1 & 2.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-08-17   17:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: aristeides, Cynicom, honway, all (#48)

And at the same time they accuse those who disagree with them of being un- and anti-American.

that's the most galling part of all.

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   17:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: honway (#39)

Wow, I'm sorry to hear this. I really disapprove of banning except in extreme cases of repeatedly using foul language, or posting personal data, or stalking another poster - crazy stuff. But not for posting content, or an opinion. It may just be an online forum, but it hurts to have someone disrespect you like this.

Welcome to 4 - I think you'll find it one of the few bastians of freedom on the Net these days.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-17   17:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#55)

It was a disenchanting experience. It was far from a big deal compared to the lengths others have gone and risks taken, some of whom post here. But it's easy to see futility in restoring the republic when you come under scrutiny like that and look it in the face. LP took a lot of my time which went mainly toward trying to enable others to speak their minds, including the morons who have the idea that freedom means getting to cheer for one of the republicrat parties, and I got tired of working for them. The incident gave me cause to ponder whether my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not.

Interesting that you say that.

When I got involved with the tax rebs in 1982 in Los Angeles, I was on fire to get the message out.

But, after seeing people run like scalded dogs and even testify against those who supplied the info that helped us escape the system, I became disenchanted and stopped teaching others.

It was years later when I pissed off our former senior senator Bill Roth and our present junior senator Tom Carper (I'm in Delaware) that I suddenly received assessments from the IRS claiming I owed thousands of bux, which I never paid of course.

It convinced me of one thing: The income tax will never be abolished because it's such a useful tool against those who dare to challenge the power of our arrogant incumbant-politicians-for-life.

And, since most of the people I tried to help would say, "Yeah, all that history is real interesting but, get to the part about how I don't have to pay taxes" I no longer care about most Americans.

And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured.

Many will suffer and perish and I'm sorry for that.

But, strong govt breeds weak citizens, and it won't be me that's killing them.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-08-17   17:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: HOUNDDAWG (#58)

if you've the time and interest, there's more background on this thread.

http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=31292&Disp=12#C11

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   18:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: HOUNDDAWG (#61)

"Yeah, all that history is real interesting but, get to the part about how I don't have to pay taxes" I no longer care about most Americans.

And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured.

couldn't agree more and the reason i choose to spend my time with (and learning from) those with open likeminds.

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   18:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: christine (#62)

A good read, and, thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-08-17   18:25:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: DuQuoigne, christine, honway, jethro tull (#49)

Nothing is gained by excoriating LP and its mods.

Yes there is. Look up "catharsis." :) There is plenty to be gained!


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-17   18:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: HOUNDDAWG (#61)

It convinced me of one thing: The income tax will never be abolished because it's such a useful tool against those who dare to challenge the power of our arrogant incumbant-politicians-for-life.

Yes, as enforced,it's a very easy to use tool of political abuse since it tracks everyone's financial activity.

And, I'm convinced that the only hope we have is with a complete collapse of the fraud system ($) and even then our success is by no means assured.

I hear that.

But, strong govt breeds weak citizens, and it won't be me that's killing them.

On the other hand though, I sometimes remind myself that I was once like them and if it were not for a few that chose to speak out, in all likelihood I'd still be with the masses. In that light it's a little hypocritical for me to not care.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-17   18:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: FormerLurker (#0)

OMG!!! HONWAY? Good lord....

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-17   19:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: christine, rowdee (#33)

well said.

Amen Dee.. we dont have to all agree .. but what we do agree on is people's right to voice their opinion..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-17   19:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker (#0)

lp started down their road when arator posted about the "contractors" in fallujah. you could see then that lp had other people's plans for it. i did enjoy the brief respite when badeye was banned by neil!

angle  posted on  2006-08-17   19:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ferret Mike (#57)

She is a liar, and her forum is bullshit.

That's my opinion as well.

angle  posted on  2006-08-17   19:40:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Neil McIver (#55)

my donated time and effort to allow morons on LP to speak their minds was worth the effort and having been a bit enlightened, I decided it was not

i am glad to see your excellent forum software has been put to good use

angle  posted on  2006-08-17   19:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: honway (#39)

honway... when I was at LP you were one of the posters I always made a point to read .. always good research and very interesting.. I am sorry you got banned at LP but I see it this way, LP's loss is 4s gain ;)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-17   19:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: SKYDRIFTER (#40)

Welcome aboard!

Thank you.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: bluegrass (#41)

Please add me to your flag list here if you have room.

Sure thing.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:38:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: RickyJ (#43)

I'm not really sure how and why you stayed over there as long as you did, but I hope this means you will be posting here more often

Thanks. I will be.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: rowdee (#44)

Where the real rub comes is when the opposition does not respond with answers, logical or otherwise persuasive, but instead come up with the bullshit 'you hate this or you hate that', or demand, because they can't stand the idea that others can be patriotic and yet see warts and wrinkles in the country they love. They prefer name calling, whether it is gutter talk or labels that are so blatently wrong.

Many actually equate our country,America, with the people in government subverting the Constitution and selling out our sovereignty in the pursuit of global government. America is defined by its history and its people,not the bought and paid for politicians in Washington.

Thanks for your comments.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: angle, Arator, FormerLurker (#69)

angle, you may well be right as to the 'time' it started.........it was so obvious she had it in for Arator. He happened to be one of the stronger ones who would stand up and defend his position, and likewise stand up to her in her stupidity. Most people hate it when others correctly chide them or bring them down to size.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-17   21:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Cynicom (#45)

discouraging to see people place there devotion to a foreign power above....THAT OF THEIR NATIVE BORN COUNTRY.....

I like the way you said it better.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: honway (#75)

Glad to see you, honway. Put me on your list also.

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-17   21:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: robin (#46)

It is discouraging, but your efforts have exposed more treason.

Thanks.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: honway (#39)

I once took an oath to defend the Constitution which includes a mention of free speech.

You and me both. I'm sorry about what happened to you at elPee.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-17   21:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Brian S (#50)

How many pro-Constitution patriots are left there now 3 or 4? Can't be many left.

The ones remainig have a tough row to hoe.The majority posting there appear to have a greater allegiance to Israel than they do to their own country.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: IndieTX (#52)

Honway has a home here.

Thanks, IndieTX.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   21:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Jethro Tull (#53)

We knew the rush to invade Iraq was driven by the PNAC papers and the clique of neocons in the Bush administration

That was a very wise call.

I actually believed the Administration when the following statement was made:

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." Dick Cheney August 26, 2002.

--------------------------------------

Simply stated,there is no doubt we were intentionally lied to.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

I never talked with you much, but I always enjoyed your post.

Thanks for your generous comments.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: mehitable (#60)

Welcome to 4 - I think you'll find it one of the few bastians of freedom on the Net these days.

Thanks.

The participants here are doing a great job of providing an alternative to the mainstream Ministry of Truth media.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: honway (#84)

Simply stated,there is no doubt we were intentionally lied to

My age saved my ass. I believed Shrub so much I called every branch to attempt enlistment the week after 9-11. At that time, they all laughed and said I was too old [45]...I wouldn't have been had Shrub changed the rules earlier. Thank God I was too old, and thank God my eyes were opened.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-17   22:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Zipporah (#72)

Thank you.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: BTP Holdings (#79)

Put me on your list also.

Will do.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Fred Mertz (#81)

I'm sorry about what happened to you at elPee.

Isn't it ironic.

I believe one of the most serious national security threats to our nation is the fact the Israeli/Jewish Lobby exerts too much influence on the politicians in Washington and I end up on two different forums where the management places Israeli interests above U.S. interests.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: honway (#80)

To: robin

It is discouraging, but your efforts have exposed more treason.

I must echo robin's sentiments.

LP has become Isreali Central.

I have always appreciated your efforts to expose malfeasance.

There ought to be limits to freedom. - G.W. Bush, 21 May 1999

rack42  posted on  2006-08-17   22:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: honway (#90)

She didn't even have the decency to answer your simple question before you were banned, huh?

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-17   22:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: IndieTX (#87)

I believed Shrub

Me,too. My eyes began to open after investigating the five "middle eastern" men arrested in the Memphis driver's license scam. Two of them were working in the WTC basement just prior to the attack. A black woman participating in the license fraud was burned alive with gasoline while she was inside one of the "middle eastern" men's car.The man just happened to be from Jerusalem.Katherine Smith was burned alive and all her accomplices walked, including the two unlicensed plumbers working on the sprinkler system in the WTC. Long story, but that is where it started for me.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: rack42 (#91)

There ought to be limits to freedom. - G.W. Bush, 21 May 1999

Thanks.

Great tagline. That says all we need to know about W.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: angle (#71)

Thank you!

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-17   22:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Critter (#92)

She didn't even have the decency to answer your simple question before you were banned, huh?

No.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   22:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: honway (#96)

I'm taking on Goldi and lardass Luis Gonzalez right now.

I'll survive.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-17   22:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Fred Mertz (#97)

I'm taking on Goldi and lardass Luis Gonzalez right now.

Link please. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-17   22:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: honway (#96)

No.

Bitch. lol

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-17   22:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Fred Mertz (#97)

I'll survive.

Never criticize Israel or the Jewish Lobby and you will do fine.

honway  posted on  2006-08-17   23:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: honway (#86)

Well, you will find all points of view represented here, and the discussions are civil but spirited - and I very rarely see the kind of childish ad hominems I see on other forums. I have yet to have anyone on 4 ask me if "I've taken my meds yet". :)

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-17   23:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: mehitable (#101)

I have yet to have anyone on 4 ask me if "I've taken my meds yet". :)

Have you taken your meds yet?

ROTFLOL!

BAC  posted on  2006-08-17   23:23:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: honway (#90)

and I end up on two different forums where the management places Israeli interests above U.S. interests.

i guarantee you, that will NEVER happen here.

christine  posted on  2006-08-17   23:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: mehitable (#101)

I have yet to have anyone on 4 ask me if "I've taken my meds yet". :)

Well, how impolite of us!!! Have you taken your meds yet today, mehitable?

Couldn't resist, girl! LOL.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-17   23:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: rowdee (#104) (Edited)

LMAO!!!! No, I usually wait till bedtime, dee - oops, I'll be taking a handful in a few minutes. You should see my posts THEN.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-17   23:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: rowdee (#104)

you know, Neil has done a great job with this editing feature - I can't see a damn thing half the time and I'm always correcting things. It's a really nice feature I don't see in some other forums. the ones where they ask me if I've taken my meds yet.....

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-17   23:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: BAC (#102)

Only the pink ones. It's too earlier for the purple ones. I save those for the OTHER forum.....

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-17   23:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mehitable, Neil McIver (#106)

you know, Neil has done a great job with this editing feature - I can't see a damn thing half the time and I'm always correcting things. It's a really nice feature I don't see in some other forums. the ones where they ask me if I've taken my meds yet.....

Yeppers, it is a damn fine job that he did. :)

Thanks again, Neil.

Off to the medicine dispenser, mehit!!!!

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-18   0:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: honway (#100)

Don't be too sure of that, TLBSHOW and I got banned from LP for trying to warn her about a ClownPosse takeover of her forum that was going on at the time (Around the time of the death of Terri Schiavo and Pope John Paul II.)

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-08-18   0:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Coral Snake (#109)

i didn't realize that you were banned. i thought you voluntarily left.

christine  posted on  2006-08-18   0:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: christine (#110)

Actually three of us were banned in that bunch. TLBSHOW, myself and a person screen named Thangdatrang who appearantly left the Internet. We went from there to Bret's place to try to build it back up again TLB now does his posting at Bret's place and A K A Stone's place.

This post is just to complete another little bit of Internet history.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-08-18   0:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: honway, all, *Hasbarfa Alert* (#90)

Israel's influence has been a weight around our necks for my entire 56 years of life. I HATE it. Yes, I HATE it. IMVHO, HATE is the correct emotion when an albatross is hung on our necks like a silk tie. Unfortunately too many Americans are inculcated with political correctness and HATE is something to be avoided. This is the root of our problems; Americans simply don't HATE enough. When HATE is directed at those looking to further erode our freedoms, it's PATRIOTISM, another word shunned by some because NATIONALISM often follows PATRIOTISM. And god forbid American NATIONALISM takes hold again. Maybe PROTECTIONISM and ISOLATIONISM will follow. Lordy, what would the INTERNATIONALISTS do then?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-18   10:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Jethro Tull (#112)

Maybe PROTECTIONISM and ISOLATIONISM will follow.

Jethro...

Isolationism will never return.

I well remember isolationism during the 1930s, when it was not a dirty word. Wilson and his manager Edward House started us down that road to socialism and total government control.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-18   11:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: All (#34)

To: FormerLurker

Her name is already public domain as it has already been posted on several different forums. Do a Google search on it, you'll see what I mean. For some time after Sally was forced to register the domain name of LP herself, her real name and even address right down to the apartment number was listed and for all to see by performing a "WhoIs" on the site.

That has since changed to a generic "Gold Lox" now however.

I'm not sure she is in compliance with domain name registration requirements however.

IIRC there was some action being taken by the domain gods requiring actual names and contact info for domain reg. Homeland Security thing I believe.


Seems as though this post has created a small bit of a stir over at LPee. Perhaps I was more on target than I originally thought. /chuckle


319. To: Willie Green, Goldi-Lox (#302)

Goldi,

Trace this reply back. The post that links to dumbdumb land has a post about you, containing your real name.

But I think they are also threatening your domain registration. There are two ways to register a domain :

1)Real contact info 2) Private registration http://(Godaddy.com has such services)

The private regs hide who you are, address, phone, etc.

If the nuts wanted to - they could in time cause trouble, possibly getting your registration pulled for not complying with the rules for registration.

You might want to fix this.

You can transfer the domain to a place that has private regs. Or see if your current registrar does.

It doesn't cost that much more.

FYI. Evidently you've painted a target on your back.

DAnconia55 posted on 2006-08-18 19:00:42 ET

Brian S  posted on  2006-08-18   22:54:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Brian S (#114)

Seems as though this post has created a small bit of a stir over at LPee.

That's just fine. Got to keep the morons distracted or they'll be googling Judge Taylors ruling and reading the text. Much better if Rush tells them what it allegedly says.

If we didn't have this sort of stuff to keep their dim little brians distracted I'd have to be pumping them up on gay marriage again. And GAWD am I tired of the tittalating queer talk. (eyes rolling)

Sixty five thousand little turds dispensed to date ....

Badeye After Five  posted on  2006-08-18   23:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Cynicom (#7)

Anyone that publicly solicits money as Goldi does, automatically loses any right to anonimity.

Exactly. I've read some of her comments in one of her fund raisers, where she was asking people to write her checks leaving the PAY TO line blank. I hadn't thought about it much, until recently..

Our fundraising has had some "speedbumps" in the past few weeks. Due to the new Patriot Act regulations, I can no longer accept checks or money orders made out to Liberty Post. The "Pay to the Order of" line must be left blank. I have received 4 or 5 that must be returned to the owners...and that is fundraising money we accounted for, but have now lost. It amounts to about $350.00.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-19   23:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Arator (#8)

Look at Goldi's latest excuse for censorship (above). I'm speechless (pun intended).

Hell, she even stated that she wanted terrorists to fly into the UN building in New York. I wonder if she ever thought of censoring herself...

If the terrorists strike here again, and choose New York, can we point them to the UN Building?

It would not bother me in the least if the terrorists flew an aircraft into THAT building. It's an abomination on our soil.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-19   23:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

For those of us who have seen the rise and fall of tFR, LP is taking a similar path. Forums over time tend to become infiltrated. 4um being the exception with our bot-proof hermetic seal in place.

LP's collapse is happening even faster than FR's. A few months ago it was a fairly well balanced forum with differing viewpoints, and a sprinkling of disinfo characters. Now, it's chiefly bots and disinfo characters, with a tiny sprinkling of rational thought from voices that are being drowned out by hysterical screeching from the neo-crazies.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-19   23:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Red Jones, honway (#11)

honway was one of the best posters ever - on any forum

I've learned some valuable material from honway's postings. LP has lost a major asset, and gained a profound shallowness .


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-19   23:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: robin (#14)

Title: THE TRUTH ABOUT KHAZARS

Goldi apparently can't allow any critism of Israeli doctrine to occur on her forum. There was also an issue concerning the friction between US Marines and the IDF in the first Lebanese crisis that both I and honway posted on, which probably contributed to both of us getting booted off.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-19   23:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

She is an irrational megalomaniac. In any event I wouldn't have posted her full name either, but I would point out she has no consideration for anyone else's name either.

Her name isn't a secret, although she likes to pretend it is. Her full name has been mentioned in terms of her role as Goldi-Lox on several forums, in regards to the manner in which LP came about, and who really owned it.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-19   23:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: FormerLurker, all - Forum Infiltration (#118)

Now, it's chiefly bots and disinfo characters, with a tiny sprinkling of rational thought from voices that are being drowned out by hysterical screeching from the neo-crazies.

I have to look around, but I seem to remember an article that put forward the idea that groups were infiltrating forums for this very purpose. Does anyone out there remember it? I'm sure it was posted here.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-19   23:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: gengis gandhi (#29)

Sally Cant Dance

I don't think she ever could to begin with.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Jethro Tull (#122)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2289232,00.html

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...  posted on  2006-08-20   0:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Jethro Tull (#122)

I have to look around, but I seem to remember an article that put forward the idea that groups were infiltrating forums for this very purpose. Does anyone out there remember it? I'm sure it was posted here.

I postulated the idea back in my FR days. But just recently I've read an article concering Israeli intelligence interns infiltrating various Internet forums to attack anyone that doesn't sing the Psalms of David for Israel.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Jethro Tull (#122)

That one was about the Israeli professional posters. There is another one dealing with a Rove tactic to flood the forums with pro-bush pro-war posters.

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...  posted on  2006-08-20   0:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: All (#124)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2289232,00.html

Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers

From Yonit Farago in Jerusalem WHILE Israel fights Hezbollah with tanks and aircraft, its supporters are campaigning on the internet.

Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages.

In the past week nearly 5,000 members of the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) have downloaded special “megaphone” software that alerts them to anti-Israeli chatrooms or internet polls to enable them to post contrary viewpoints. A student team in Jerusalem combs the web in a host of different languages to flag the sites so that those who have signed up can influence an opinion survey or the course of a debate.

Jonny Cline, of the international student group, said that Jewish students and youth groups with their understanding of the web environment were ideally placed to present another side to the debate.

“We’re saying to these people that if Israel is being bashed, don’t ignore it, change it,” Mr Cline said. “A poll like CNN’s takes just a few seconds to vote in, but if thousands take part the outcome will be changed. What’s vital is that the international face of the conflict is balanced.”

Doron Barkat, 29, in Jerusalem, spends long nights trawling the web to try to swing the debate Israel’s way. “When I see internet polls for or against Israel I send out a mailing list to vote for Israel,” he said. “It can be that after 15 minutes there will be 400 votes for Israel.

“It’s very satisfying. There are also forums where Lebanese and Israelis talk.”

Israel’s Foreign Ministry must avoid direct involvement with the campaign but is in contact with international Jewish and evangelical Christian groups, distributing internet information packs.

Amir Gissin, the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s public relations director, said: “The internet’s become a leading tool for news, shaping the world view of millions. Our problem is the foreign media shows Lebanese suffering, but not Israeli. We’re bypassing that filter by distributing pictures showing how northern Israelis suffer from Katyusha rocket attacks.”

Click here for more on the blogs of w

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...  posted on  2006-08-20   0:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: ... (#127)

wannabe brownshirts, how sad they still get recruits.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783

omerta  posted on  2006-08-20   0:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: rowdee, christine, Zipporah, Neil McIver (#30)

I can't imagine why truthseekers want to hang out at places like tos1 and tos2-- they seem to cover 'truth AS THEY SEE IT', just as DU and others on the left side of the aisle cover 'truth AS THEY SEE IT'.

Our owners and Neil are to be congratulated on ACTUALLY believing in and practicing free speech. I can tell you that I don't agree with a number of things that go on here.....but the hardest thing to get thru the skull is that others are allowed to voice their opinion just as I am.

And while I have some disagreements, by being able to state my views, lurkers or just readers are able to see that there are differences. And there's a chance my 'view' of reality or truth willl cause them to think a little more about the subject at hand.

Myself, I posted there in the idealistic hope of being able to influence some people who might truly be seeking the truth in matters where the truth is nowhere to be found in main stream news. As is apparent, there are many that desire to keep certain truths out of sight and out of mind. Some truths can be ridiculed and labeled conspiracy theories, where some can not. It is those that cannot be so easily dismissed that cause the powers that be great heartburn, requiring those speaking such truths to be silenced.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, that our forum hosts are to be congratulated for not allowing that to happen here.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Brian S (#34)

For some time after Sally was forced to register the domain name of LP herself, her real name and even address right down to the apartment number was listed and for all to see by performing a "WhoIs" on the site.

That has since changed to a generic "Gold Lox" now however.

I'm not sure she is in compliance with domain name registration requirements however.

IIRC there was some action being taken by the domain gods requiring actual names and contact info for domain reg. Homeland Security thing I believe.

That is very interesting Brian, I wonder why she took her real name off the registration. One might think there's something not quite Kosher on 12 Carroll Street, Westminster, Maryland.

From looking over the LP thread where Goldi banned honway, apparently someone linked to this thread, where in turn our good "friend" D'Acconia noticed your post concerning this (as you yourself mentioned later on in this thread).

Oh shucks, we've caused Goldi and some of her pals heartburn, tsk tsk... LOL


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: SKYDRIFTER (#35)

Nothing like a self-deluded martyr with control in one hand and power in the other.

It's the Jim Robinson syndrome all over again.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: honway (#39)

For me, the handwriting was on the wall when she moved a thread on a videotape of a FOX News report by Brit Hume and Carl Cameron concerning Israel to the Biker Bar.

I don't know if you've noticed, but she's also moved your article on the Israeli involvment in the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon to the BikerBar. Have you posted that article here yet?

CSI Forensics Proves Who Killed US Marines


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Brian S (#114) (Edited)

You can buy a "secure whois" to hide your personal details from the public, which is totally legit. I'm not sure about providing false info to begin with.


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-20   0:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: FormerLurker (#131)

sup man?

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-20   0:28:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: ... (#126)

That one was about the Israeli professional posters. There is another one dealing with a Rove tactic to flood the forums with pro-bush pro-war posters.

Bingo, three dots. The article is here somewhere and obviously it's being put into place at El Pee

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-20   0:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Neil McIver (#51)

He's completely uninvolved. LP was moved out of the SAPF office a long time ago.

I wasn't sure, as I came across that info just recently. From digging around a bit, it appears that LP was better off with Kotmair than with Goldi at the helm, where I've read some of his posts there and he seems to be more level headed than the web witch.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: FormerLurker, ... (#125)

That's the one FL - three dots remembers it also.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-20   0:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Critter (#134)

sup man?

Hey Critter, how long you been here? Good to see you...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:31:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: FormerLurker (#138)

Good to see you here too. Been a bit boring at LP without you and Honway.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-20   0:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Jethro Tull. ... (#137)

That's the one FL - three dots remembers it also.

So THAT's how you pronounce the handle. I would have said dot dot dot, but three dots is a bit less typing.. :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: FormerLurker (#136)

From digging around a bit, it appears that LP was better off with Kotmair than with Goldi at the helm, where I've read some of his posts there and he seems to be more level headed than the web witch.

You are making the mistake of thinking LP is an open discussion forum. It isn't. It's a propaganda machine to fool Missouri truck drivers into sending their kids to die for Israel. Once you realize this, eveything else follows very logically.


Liberace!
A great American!
(Like me, he wasn't gay.)

Trace21231  posted on  2006-08-20   0:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: FormerLurker (#140)

Actually it is Morse Code. You pronounce it "S".

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...  posted on  2006-08-20   0:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: FormerLurker (#0)

You guys are really helping out with the bites this week. This thread and its El Pee companion are full of good material starting with Goldi. For those of you who don't regilarly look at the Bites here is her white persian cat quota.

Right there in Doug from Upland and JimRob territory.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-08-20   0:42:33 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: ... (#142)

.- .-. . ..- .- .... .- -- ..--..


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-20   0:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Critter (#139)

Good to see you here too. Been a bit boring at LP without you and Honway.

From the looks of things, we will probably just be the first of many to get the boot. Goldi is toying with OI making him think he's safe, and making people think that she really does run the forum impartially. Time will tell, but I have a hunch when push comes to shove, there will be a few more "trouble makers" unceremoniously "retired" or banned outright. Hopefully all the legit posters there will keep this site in mind.

Much of my time on LP lately had been spent knocking down the more uppity of the bots in order to keep them in check. Now that I've left, I see BAC is back in full form, along with lesser talented bots hacking away at anyone that dares quetion the Ministry of Propaganda. That may be why I was delt with so early on, and in such a manner as to make it appear I had actually done something wrong, where Goldi's bots posts are MANY times more uncivil than anything I've ever written.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Trace21231 (#141)

It's a propaganda machine to fool Missouri truck drivers into sending their kids to die for Israel. Once you realize this, eveything else follows very logically.

You've got it figured it out Trace. Can't say I disagree.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: FormerLurker (#129)

Once upon a time I had that noble idea of attempting to dialogue with folks in order to see some changes occur due to reality be shone into the corners of life. Frankly, now I just say, screw most of them. They run off anyone that attempts to learn, i.e., lurkers.

At least here, views are challenged and extended or expounded upon without everything being hatred, and plain ol sour bilgewater by people who can't find their way out of a wet paper bag, let alone present any information of value beyond 'See Dick. See Dick read. See Spot. See Spot pee'.

The name calling is such a turn off........as are bad manners, etc. Daily life has enough rudeness and illmannered goofballs than to deal with it during leisure time.

Anyways, that is how I'm feeling about it nowadays.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-20   0:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: ... (#142)

Actually it is Morse Code. You pronounce it "S".

Thanks for clearing that up S.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Coral Snake (#143)

You guys are really helping out with the bites this week. This thread and its El Pee companion are full of good material starting with Goldi. For those of you who don't regilarly look at the Bites here is her white persian cat quota.

Hmmm, can't say I've heard of that before. Is that one of those kitties that likes to play with lightning bolts and stuff?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: rowdee (#147)

The name calling is such a turn off........as are bad manners, etc

Oh I don't know. I prefer to see it as an acquired taste. Sort of like foie gras.

ROTFLOL!

BAC  posted on  2006-08-20   0:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: IndieTX (#52)

LP is DEAD.

Sadly, it truly is. It may still exist as a site on the net, but the LP that once was no longer does. It is now nothing more than a hate-filled cauldron of brain damaged bots, with the exception of a few that still try to turn the tide back to where things once were.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: rowdee (#147)

The name calling is such a turn off........as are bad manners, etc. Daily life has enough rudeness and illmannered goofballs than to deal with it during leisure time.

It had become second nature in dealing with many of the bots there, as almost all of them without exception would label anyone that disagrees with them a KOOK, America-hater, Muzzie-lover, etc...

So I would just retaliate with a few choice words for them myself, but never to the extent or the level of depravity some of them have stooped to.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Critter (#139)

Good to see you here too

Aye, I'll second that.
I never made it to Cinci. lol;)

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783

omerta  posted on  2006-08-20   0:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: BAC (#150)

I prefer to see it as an acquired taste.

If you were the real BAC, I'd tell you what I think you love to taste.. LOL


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   0:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: FormerLurker (#154)

pmlol!

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783

omerta  posted on  2006-08-20   1:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: FormerLurker (#132)

I don't know if you've noticed, but she's also moved your article on the Israeli involvment in the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon to the BikerBar.

you've gotta be kidding.

christine  posted on  2006-08-20   1:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: FormerLurker (#149)

You'll have to wait till tommorrow night or monday if you are in bed when I post the Bites like everybody else to find that out. I'll ping you to the post when it is up.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-08-20   1:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: angle, Arator (#69)

lp started down their road when arator posted about the "contractors" in fallujah. you could see then that lp had other people's plans for it.

Didn't hear about that story. Could you fill me in a bit?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: omerta (#153)

does Critter know your FU ID? ;)

christine  posted on  2006-08-20   1:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: christine (#156)

you've gotta be kidding

Nope.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: Coral Snake (#157)

You'll have to wait till tommorrow night or monday if you are in bed when I post the Bites like everybody else to find that out. I'll ping you to the post when it is up.

Can expect candy and stuff in my sock? :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: ... (#142)

I'm glad you don't have a long name like:

... -.-- .-.. ...- . ... - . .-.

That would be a bitch. hehehe

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-20   1:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: christine, omerta (#159)

To: omerta (#153)

does Critter know your FU ID? ;)

uh oh.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-20   1:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: FormerLurker, BAC (#154)

If you were the real BAC, I'd tell you what I think you love to taste.. LOL

I thought you were the real BAC when I saw you here. I almost soiled myself. lol

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-20   1:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Critter (#163)

he's me in drag.

christine  posted on  2006-08-20   1:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Ferret Mike (#57)

Your account is suspended until further notice.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-05-01 00:40:47 ET Reply Trace

Hey ferret, good to see you found your way here. Wasn't sure if Ferret Mike was ferret until I saw this post.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Critter (#164)

I thought you were the real BAC when I saw you here. I almost soiled myself. lol

BeachOoser wouldn't last long here I believe.. ROTFLOL!!!


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: christine (#159)

should, that's when we talked about me moving to Cinci with someone that we both knew.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783

omerta  posted on  2006-08-20   1:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: christine (#165)

pmlol!

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783

omerta  posted on  2006-08-20   1:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: omerta (#155)

pmlol!

I can only guess at what the pm stands for.. :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: FormerLurker (#170)

hangin' out with pirates must've rubbed off a bit. :)

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783

omerta  posted on  2006-08-20   1:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: omerta (#171)

hangin' out with pirates must've rubbed off a bit. :)

Arr.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:25:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: FormerLurker (#172)

I just saw Pirates 2 this evening. It was great!

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-20   1:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: robin (#173)

I just saw Pirates 2 this evening. It was great!

I haven't seen the first one yet. I'll need to rent the movie sometime in order to know what you guys are talking about.. :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   1:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: FormerLurker (#172)

Aye, they be of the radio/shortwave variety. a surly lot.
hehehe

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
-- William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783

omerta  posted on  2006-08-20   1:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: FormerLurker (#130)

12 Carroll Street, Westminster, Maryland

"12 Carroll Street, Westminster, Maryland" has been of interest to me for quite some time, indeed!

Brian S  posted on  2006-08-20   1:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: IndieTX (#133)

You can buy a "secure whois" to hide your personal details from the public, which is totally legit. I'm not sure about providing false info to begin with.

Then somebody should have sold the stupid cunt a "clue" before she registered the forum under her own name and address, including phone number.

Not "my" job...

Brian S  posted on  2006-08-20   1:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: FormerLurker, Fred Mertz (#158)

Didn't hear about that story. Could you fill me in a bit?

After the Americans were killed in Fallujah, we all learned that they weren't soldiers, they were contractors/mercenaries from outfits like Blackwater. I went to Blackwater's website and found graphics showing the "heroes" there in their Darth-Vader-style Gestapo get-up and posted them to LP along with the comment that Iraqis did us all a favor killing them because otherwise these jackboots would be coming home to do to us what they were then doing to Iraqis.

Many LPers took exception to my comment, including Fred Mertz (who was not yet then fully awakened to the dangerously Fascist turn our criminal government had taken) and Goldi used the uproar as cover for doing what she had long wished to do -- shut me up and ship me out, which she did in short order. I haven't been back since.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-08-20   2:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Brian S, FormerLurker, Neil McIver (#176)

12 Carroll Street, Westminster, Maryland.

that's the address of the SaveAPatriot Foundation whose server hosted LP while Neil was involved. Goldi lives in Florida, not Maryland.

christine  posted on  2006-08-20   2:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: christine (#179)

She still uses that address at the bottom of every page on her site.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   2:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: christine (#179)

If I recall, she used that address for people sending in money for her latest fundraiser as well.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   2:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: FormerLurker, Neil McIver (#181)

If I recall, she used that address for people sending in money for her latest fundraiser as well.

hmmmmm...what's with that, Neil?

christine  posted on  2006-08-20   2:15:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: christine (#179)

12 Carroll Street, Westminster, Maryland.

Here's a link to her "Donate" page..

We can also accept checks or money orders mailed to:

Liberty Post 12 Carroll Street, Suite #6022 Westminster, MD 21157


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   2:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: christine (#179)

Goldi lives in Florida, not Maryland.

Hmmmm, that's interesting though, as "Crystalk" claims to be from Florida as well. I wonder if both of their chads are hung together...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   2:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Arator (#178)

Many LPers took exception to my comment, including Fred Mertz (who was not yet then fully awakened to the dangerously Fascist turn our criminal government had taken) and Goldi used the uproar as cover for doing what she had long wished to do -- shut me up and ship me out, which she did in short order. I haven't been back since.

Interesting story. Seems like Goldi's censored more than just a few people for stating their concerns on a self-proclaimed "uncensored free-speech website".


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   2:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: All (#185)

I'm taking that silly picture off of my tagline, it's a bit gut wrenching and I don't want to turn anyone's stomach. Let me know if you all miss it, I might put it back in upon popular demand.. :)


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-20   2:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: FormerLurker (#186)

I'm taking that silly picture off of my tagline, it's a bit gut wrenching

My stomach and eyes thank you :)


Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-20   9:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: FormerLurker (#186)

I'm taking that silly picture off of my tagline,

That is a shame as I thought you looked fetching.

I'm not ready to make nice

Hmmmmm  posted on  2006-08-20   9:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: FormerLurker (#166)

Ferret Mike was the nick I first used, I shortened it to ferret when I signed up at Free Republic in early 1998. I decided to go back to it as it is my real life nick name anyway.

Interestingly enough I was going to do the nick correction at LP but Moldy- Smocks wanted me to do it with a new account and a notification of this new sign-up so she could turn ferret off. I'm sure you understand why I didn't trust her enough to do that.

I first likely would have had her playing innocent 'oops!' game with an 8 post entry member limit on that account until she seemed to discover my E mailings about it to her after several prompts some weeks later.

To know Moldy-Frocks is to heartily distrust the crap out of her.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-20   10:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Arator (#178)

heh, and I knew she wouldn't consider my calls to unban you, but I seized on the opportunity to rub her face in the dog shit that her decision to ban you was.

I have not tried to make nice with the idiot either, we are done.

I don't know if RaisedEyeBrows is going back there ever or not - the guy who also posted at LP from this building - as our last talks on the topic seemed to indicate a frustration of the hopelessness of posting at a forum that is open in name only where the owner stacks the cards against those with whom she strongly disagrees with, and don't contribute to the sort of atmosphere of artificial FReeperlike harmony she craves.

One in which she is worshiped and loved as a grand arbiter of truth and enlightenment. She no doubt still suspects he and I are the same person and has said exactly that in open forum which is dumb as anyone is welcome to investigate and meet both of us in person or by phone if this were done for the purpose of proving there is two people here who have been posting on LP.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-20   11:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: FormerLurker (#136)

From digging around a bit, it appears that LP was better off with Kotmair than with Goldi at the helm, where I've read some of his posts there and he seems to be more level headed than the web witch.

John Kotmair was never in control of LP. He was interested in helping out when things first got started but never had any decision making control over content.

And as far as I know he's never posted, though I may have posted a couple of his writings there.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-20   11:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Neil McIver (#191)

I respect you then for not returning the vitriol sent your way as Clown Posse and others used John Kotmair as a vehicle to try to get at you. I see that they were looking to create grief for yourself by making it seem you protested too much have was not involved in LP beyond the formative stage.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-20   11:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Ferret Mike (#192)

John Kotmair is a fighter and when he was told about FR's practices he wanted to help make a difference. The name of LP was actually his idea. At least it was after I convinced him that "uncensoredrepublic.com", his first idea, was too long and unweildy, and brought undesirable & indirect attention to FR.

But beyond the startup stage he was out of the loop entirely, even choosing not to get involved when friction between me and Goldi first arose early on.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-20   11:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Jethro Tull (#112)

When HATE is directed at those looking to further erode our freedoms, it's PATRIOTISM,

Your words remind me of a quote by a great man of Jewish ancestry.Barry Goldwater was a great American in the true sense of the words.

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. ... Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

honway  posted on  2006-08-20   21:26:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: honway (#194)

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. ... Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Ha! I was running that as my tag for several weeks. I like to switch 'em off since I've got loads of 'em. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-08-20   21:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: FormerLurker (#0)

looks like Brer' is still pouting:

24. To: buckeroo (#23)

you just can't read....go back to 4UM where your brother leftist brown shirts hang out. and snuffle some peroxide up your nose with your brainy friends while you're at it.

BrerRabbit posted on 2006-08-20 20:17:40 ET Reply Trace

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-08-20   22:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Morgana le Fay (#196)

Leftists?? Please.... geesh.. and DUH!

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-20   23:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Morgana le Fay (#196)

The Jew from VA is still squealing?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-20   23:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Jethro Tull (#198)

The Jew from VA is still squealing?

he has been averaging a little over one squeal per day. i think it goes with the culture of victimhood that is his heritage. he comes over uninvited, he is rude to us, we call him on it and so therefore his silly failure is our fault.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-08-20   23:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Morgana le Fay (#199)

Defective DNA cannot be hidden.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-20   23:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Zipporah (#197)

Leftists?? Please.... geesh.. and DUH!

To the FReekers and Elpeers Reagan or Goldwater, those bastions of old school conservatisim, fits their definition of a "leftist" to a tee.

Today those two would be chucked out of the "R" gang faster than you can say "Govt is the problem, not the solution."

"Protectionist economic policy? Isolationist military policy? Heresy! Burn them! Burn them!"

I always wanted to do a comedy sketch where "The Gipper" tries to post at FR. Might get around to it some day.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2006-08-21   0:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Jethro Tull (#200)

Defective DNA cannot be hidden.

true. we should be careful about pointing out his defects however. he is harmless now because he is so transparent. but he could be dangerous if he ever wised up enough to keep his inferiority complex in check.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-08-21   0:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Morgana le Fay (#196)

looks like Brer' is still pouting:

Brer seems to me to be a Yugoslav commie that is upset over the US bombing of that country, which he has every right to be, but wears it on his shoulder. When he first came to LP, he was spouting off that US troops in World War II depended on his countrymen for their very lives, and would have all have been wiped out if it weren't for them.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-21   1:13:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: FormerLurker (#203)

but wears it on his shoulder

he wears everything on his shoulder. he hasn't grasped the concept of show don't tell yet. so he stupidly tells everyone how smart he is, what a great guy he is, how well connected he is, etc. exactly the sort of thing that makes you turn and run from a guy you meet in a bar, on the beach, in a ski lodge, etc. except Brer isn't some 28 year old. i get the feeling the guy is pushing fifty. he should know better by now. my dad does.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-08-21   1:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: Morgana le Fay (#204)

Brer is a big time fraud and BS artist. He's probably some pimply faced 40 year old living in his aunt's cellar, bloviating how great he is, where in reality, he's leeching off his 80 year old aunt.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2006-08-21   1:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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