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Title: Free Speech on Freedom4um
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Published: Aug 18, 2006
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2006-08-18 12:01:37 by christine
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Views: 21836
Comments: 173

It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

Many people have no concept of what Free Speech and Freedom really mean. Do you?

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#16. To: christine (#0)

My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say.

This is license, not a standard.

If “free speech” tolerates lies and hatred and knowingly allows attempts to intentionally mislead the reader, of what positive value is it? That “standard” has no content. Anything goes. As a standard, it’s pure rhetoric.

Does 4um benefit by allowing lies and gossip to be spread across the net? Does society benefit? Does truth matter? Or should the standard be driven by something meaningful? I don’t allow people to come into my home and spit on the floor or defecate on my living room rug. Manners matter.

Does or should free speech include, among other things, expressing an opinion such as this one that may not be popular with the owners?

And feel free to ban me or invite me to leave at any time.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   13:47:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Phaedrus (#16)

Does 4um benefit by allowing lies and gossip to be spread across the net? Does society benefit? Does truth matter? Or should the standard be driven by something meaningful? I don’t allow people to come into my home and spit on the floor or defecate on my living room rug. Manners matter.

But O'Reilly and Rush are models of mainstream media manners?

And speaking of lies and gossip, do you ever read or listen to MSM?

Oh, I forgot Ann Coulter, I just remembered how much you admire her.

So much for your standards.

robin  posted on  2006-08-18   14:15:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: robin (#32)

So much for your standards.

You don't really want a response, do you?

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   14:24:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Phaedrus (#35)

How curious this thread is. While other forums utilize the dreaded purge, 4 achieves self exile by simply asserting that a constitutional right remains intact. My how far some would have us fall.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-18   14:26:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

My how far some would have us fall.

I would disagree as to direction but I don't have much to add to what I said above.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   14:27:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Phaedrus (#38)

Your thoughts have been expressed & noted, as is your right. You wouldn't have it any other way, right?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-18   14:32:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

You wouldn't have it any other way, right?

lol, absolutely. But neither do I knowlingly lie nor am I filled with hate.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   14:50:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#55. To: Phaedrus (#50)

nor am I filled with hate.

Hate, my friend, is an appropriate emotion when directed at people who diligently work to usurp our freedom. We need more of it today, not less.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-18 14:59:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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