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Title: Free Speech on Freedom4um
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Published: Aug 18, 2006
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2006-08-18 12:01:37 by christine
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It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

Many people have no concept of what Free Speech and Freedom really mean. Do you?

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#16. To: christine (#0)

My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say.

This is license, not a standard.

If “free speech” tolerates lies and hatred and knowingly allows attempts to intentionally mislead the reader, of what positive value is it? That “standard” has no content. Anything goes. As a standard, it’s pure rhetoric.

Does 4um benefit by allowing lies and gossip to be spread across the net? Does society benefit? Does truth matter? Or should the standard be driven by something meaningful? I don’t allow people to come into my home and spit on the floor or defecate on my living room rug. Manners matter.

Does or should free speech include, among other things, expressing an opinion such as this one that may not be popular with the owners?

And feel free to ban me or invite me to leave at any time.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   13:47:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Does 4um benefit by allowing lies and gossip to be spread across the net? Does society benefit? Does truth matter? Or should the standard be driven by something meaningful? I don’t allow people to come into my home and spit on the floor or defecate on my living room rug. Manners matter.

But O'Reilly and Rush are models of mainstream media manners?

And speaking of lies and gossip, do you ever read or listen to MSM?

Oh, I forgot Ann Coulter, I just remembered how much you admire her.

So much for your standards.

robin  posted on  2006-08-18   14:15:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So much for your standards.

You don't really want a response, do you?

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   14:24:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Please do.

robin  posted on  2006-08-18   14:28:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But O'Reilly and Rush are models of mainstream media manners?

And speaking of lies and gossip, do you ever read or listen to MSM?

Oh, I forgot Ann Coulter, I just remembered how much you admire her.

Well, these are omnibus subjects but I'll make a few comments. Rush bills himself as entertainment first so verbosity and stimulation are his forte. I find him hard to take except in small doses and it's been years, I'm sure, since I listened at all. I "click through" O'Reilly and pay very little attention to the MSM -- they're about sensationalism and ratings almost exclusively. I appreciate Rush's and O'Reilly's exposure of leftist lies, along with that function performed by Ann Coulter. Ann goes "over the top" on occasion but so what? Without doubt, she exaggerates, which is an essential element of humor, but if you're suggesting that she is a pathological liar, then you are simply mistaken. The left has begged for these 3 people for decades. Now they have them. I'm both amused and pleased.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   14:42:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Without doubt, she exaggerates, which is an essential element of humor, but if you're suggesting that she is a pathological liar, then you are simply mistaken. The left has begged for these 3 people for decades. Now they have them. I'm both amused and pleased.

I don't find her remarks amusing anymore than I find Rush's Club Gitmo funny.

The 3 of them certainly have helped in the destruction of the GOP, one of the goals of the NeoCommies.

In regards to Coulter, maybe you haven't read enough of her quotes:

Coulter: "[T]he government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo"

I find nothing to laugh at here.

last week when Ann Coulter, a loudmouthed, mean-spirited, pro-Bush columnist, decided to defend the White House press pass controversy over faux-reporter James Guckert (a.k.a. Jeff Gannon) by writing in her syndicated column: “Press passes can’t be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president.”

Columnist Ann Coulter Calls for Wiping Out All of South Lebanon

robin  posted on  2006-08-18   14:59:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#62. To: robin (#54)

Coulter: "[T]he government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo"

Good lord..........it honestly sounds like she couldn't get into the pants of the ME fella she was dating.......she's sexually frustrated......and can't seem to understand that there is something about her that is repulsive and revolting to men.......her mouth and her brain for openers! Sheesh........what a witch.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-18 15:04:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Anyone can find objectionable material by someone who is so widely published as Ann Coulter and if you do not appreciate her very cutting humor, then you don't appreciate it. And I am done commenting on Ann Coulter as I would only be repeating myself. Think what you like.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18 15:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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