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Title: Free Speech on Freedom4um
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Published: Aug 18, 2006
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2006-08-18 12:01:37 by christine
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It is time for me to address the issue of "free speech" on Freedom4um. My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

Many people have no concept of what Free Speech and Freedom really mean. Do you?

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well, at least whores are honest traders, so ethically, not morally,, but ethically speaking they are head and shoulders above political hacks.

morally they are still better off, because they are consistent within their professed beliefs. they are not hypocrites, but are true to their beliefs.

I went to the park and saw this kid flying a kite. The kid was really excited. I don't know why, that's what they're supposed to do. Now if he had had a chair on the other end of that string, I would have been impressed. -Mitch Hedberg

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-08-18   14:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have no wish to wade through a sea of lies and bad manners to find a few nuggets of truth when it would be so easy to be rid of known, repeat-offender liars and those who indulge in personal attacks as argument.

Why don't you just cut to the chase and list some of these so-called "known, repeat-offenders" you want Christine and Zipporah to ban, instead of whining like a little girl?

Go on, show us who these evil "liars and attackers" are that you feel need to be silenced.

Esso  posted on  2006-08-18   14:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Each of us have to find truth for ourselves.

Truth is an extremely difficult subject. Just because it's difficult does not reduce to that the truth varies from person to person or from day to day. Kinda basic. Some know truth better than others. But again, I've said what I came to say above.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   14:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Without doubt, she exaggerates, which is an essential element of humor, but if you're suggesting that she is a pathological liar, then you are simply mistaken. The left has begged for these 3 people for decades. Now they have them. I'm both amused and pleased.

I don't find her remarks amusing anymore than I find Rush's Club Gitmo funny.

The 3 of them certainly have helped in the destruction of the GOP, one of the goals of the NeoCommies.

In regards to Coulter, maybe you haven't read enough of her quotes:

Coulter: "[T]he government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo"

I find nothing to laugh at here.

last week when Ann Coulter, a loudmouthed, mean-spirited, pro-Bush columnist, decided to defend the White House press pass controversy over faux-reporter James Guckert (a.k.a. Jeff Gannon) by writing in her syndicated column: “Press passes can’t be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president.”

Columnist Ann Coulter Calls for Wiping Out All of South Lebanon

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-18   14:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

nor am I filled with hate.

Hate, my friend, is an appropriate emotion when directed at people who diligently work to usurp our freedom. We need more of it today, not less.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-18   14:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So answer the example questions which I posed to you......

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-18   14:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have no interest in engaging in a food fight over Ann Coulter. A little balance and perspective is all that I ask.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ann goes "over the top" on occasion but so what?

Ann Coulter is a lying whore that will say whatever she needs to say to keep her masters happy. Your desire for the "truth" should start with seeing her for who and what she really is.

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-18   15:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hate, my friend, is an appropriate emotion when directed at people who diligently work to usurp our freedom.

Hate will burn you up like one of those vampires exposed to the sun that you see in the "B" flics.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ann Coulter is a lying whore ...

Thank you for that reasoned opinion.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

YOWZAH!!!!! I think you got it right, Chris.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-18   15:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Coulter: "[T]he government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo"

Good lord..........it honestly sounds like she couldn't get into the pants of the ME fella she was dating.......she's sexually frustrated......and can't seem to understand that there is something about her that is repulsive and revolting to men.......her mouth and her brain for openers! Sheesh........what a witch.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-18   15:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So answer the example questions which I posed to you......

So what are you, a high priest? I don't do hypotheticals, at least not at the moment.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:05:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Academics often have serious ego problems, completely unwarranted.

Keeping a job in academia is fraught with political infighting and backstabbing.

Thanks for the background, it does explain some of his odd behavior.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-18   15:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you for that reasoned opinion.

You're more than welcome. She lies. She's a media whore. Hence, she's a lying whore.

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-18   15:06:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hate will burn you up like one of those vampires exposed to the sun that you see in the "B" flics.

Well then, shall I go gentle into that good night with the walking lobotomized? No thanks, that isn't part of my DNA sequence, nor is it a part of others I consider friends

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-18   15:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anyone can find objectionable material by someone who is so widely published as Ann Coulter and if you do not appreciate her very cutting humor, then you don't appreciate it. And I am done commenting on Ann Coulter as I would only be repeating myself. Think what you like.

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How curious this thread is. While other forums utilize the dreaded purge, 4 achieves self exile by simply asserting that a constitutional right remains intact. My how far some would have us fall.

Thanks for this semi-brilliant observation. :-)

Lod  posted on  2006-08-18   15:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So what are you, a high priest? I don't do hypotheticals,

ROTF..........you're not nearly as clever as you believe you are. When you figure out how to get your foot out of your mouth, an answer would be of interest....you know....the truthseekers here and around the world would like to be able to assimilate what they see on the board, chew it around, and come up with the truth as they see it.

No doubt some would stand alongside the weasel worder, but there are way too many folks here who actually do this and will come to the conclusion they've heard this 'I don't do hypothetical' bullshit from those who can't answer and face the truth that what they have been saying is B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T trying to be passed off as merely processed steer manure.

Enjoy your deluded world.

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-18   15:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jim, if we can't laugh, we'll cry :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-18   15:11:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A little balance and perspective is all that I ask.

No, in your post #34, you said you want certain "repeat offender" posters banned.

Name them, and explain why. Or are you afraid of what an asshole it will make you look like in front of the rest of us?

Esso  posted on  2006-08-18   15:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

whatever ...

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Anyone can find objectionable material by someone who is so widely published as Ann Coulter and if you do not appreciate her very cutting humor, then you don't appreciate it.

"My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism."

-- Ann Coulter, MSNBC, February 8, 1997

Her humor escapes me.

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-18   15:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I couldn't care less how I look to you or anyone else here. And why should you be anything but ignored?

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Her humor escapes me.

OK

Phaedrus  posted on  2006-08-18   15:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jim, if we can't laugh, we'll cry :)

Someone come up with the words to a new song Burning Bandwith to be sung to the country tune Burning Bridges.

Outta here for more necessities.

Have fun.

Lod  posted on  2006-08-18   15:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How disappointing........you were so cocksure of yourself as it regards liars and the truth and banning of those repeat offenders. And yet you can't be bothered to even toss an answer out there; or *gasp*

whisper that you perhaps spoke too hastily?

rowdee  posted on  2006-08-18   15:19:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: mehitable (#10)

I think

You've shown yourself incapable of thought.

Brer' posted on 2006-03-15 0:12:59 ET

Oh I missed that one. I must just be passing gas through my ears.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-18   15:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I couldn't care less how I look to you or anyone else here.

That's pretty obvious.

And why should you be anything but ignored?

I'm not the one whining for certain posters to be banned, you are. Name them, if you've got the stones.

Esso  posted on  2006-08-18   15:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What's funny about "the benefits of local fascism"? It just got Christopher Bollyn beat up and arrested in Chicago.

That's funny?

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-18   15:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

if one values human life, one cannot value its destroyers

from the fountainhead, by ayn rand, is the initial quote provided.

to attempt anything else, is a profane contradiction and the insignia of insanity, without hyperbole.

it is as a farmer who loves and is responsible for his crop, yet refuses to remove the worms that eat his corn. then he blames the fates, the gods, the spirits, the universe, the divine plan of ghosts he has never seen, but never blaming himself for the result- that his field has turned to dust and his corn is gone, and the worms he would not remove have multiplied beyond enumeration, like the grains of sand of the sea. a promiscious love is one of no value. and to hate that which attempts to destroy love, life, liberty, is not only correct, is it vital to furtherance of existence of an organism, either political or otherwise. consider, microcosmically, the white cells of the body, which must destroy that which threatens life in order for the organism to survive. it is not anger or hate that causes the problems, but false love, ...as the false love of a farmer who refuses to remove the worms who destroy the crops he claims to love while he watches them being destroyed. a false love, indistinguishable in the end result from hate itself. judging the tree by its fruit, so to speak then. tsarion states this is due to ego fixation, in the extent one will refuse to acknowledge the darkness, in fear, remaining in the 'light', which ironically, gives free reign to the darkness.

if one contemplates it...in fact, a righteous anger, a cleansing flame, is a repeated theme throughout spiritual teaching.

i am always amused at the christians who speak of christ as this man of peace. i ask them then of the braiding of cords, and whipping the moneychangers in the temple, overturning their tables, etc...a righteous anger, a cleansing flame. today, such activity is vandalism against the state, or in a temple, surely religious bigotry.

so, then, it is not proper, somehow, to hate evil, to hate child molestors, to hate corruption and falsehood, to hate that which seeks the destruction of self and family? to seek its end and elimination, as a white cells seeks destruction of diseased cells or else have the organism as a whole perish?

this is the bumpersticker philosophy new age drivel that is thoughtless and the handmaiden of luciferianism....an agent and catalyst for evil that diguises itself as goodwill and love.

and all evil has been allowed to manifest and grow by those who did not hate it. not indicating violence, but despising it for its very nature, as gandhi did, or christ.

those who say hate has no place against evil have confessed that there is no value to love.

I went to the park and saw this kid flying a kite. The kid was really excited. I don't know why, that's what they're supposed to do. Now if he had had a chair on the other end of that string, I would have been impressed. -Mitch Hedberg

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-08-18   15:38:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How curious this thread is. While other forums utilize the dreaded purge, 4 achieves self exile by simply asserting that a constitutional right remains intact. My how far some would have us fall.

Thanks for this semi-brilliant observation. :-)

I agree that is an accurate, even semi-brilliant observation.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-18   16:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What's funny about "the benefits of local fascism"? It just got Christopher Bollyn beat up and arrested in Chicago.

That's funny?

I guess it depends if the jackboot is on your foot, or on your neck.

Esso  posted on  2006-08-18   16:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

so, then, it is not proper, somehow, to hate evil, to hate child molestors, to hate corruption and falsehood, to hate that which seeks the destruction of self and family?

The same can be said for Communism, Zionism and the Fractional Reserve banking that's fed both.

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-18   16:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I guess it depends if the jackboot is on your foot, or on your neck.

Well put.

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-18   16:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

if one contemplates it...in fact, a righteous anger, a cleansing flame, is a repeated theme throughout spiritual teaching.

i am always amused at the christians who speak of christ as this man of peace. i ask them then of the braiding of cords, and whipping the moneychangers in the temple, overturning their tables, etc...a righteous anger, a cleansing flame. today, such activity is vandalism against the state, or in a temple, surely religious bigotry.

so, then, it is not proper, somehow, to hate evil, to hate child molestors, to hate corruption and falsehood, to hate that which seeks the destruction of self and family? to seek its end and elimination, as a white cells seeks destruction of diseased cells or else have the organism as a whole perish?

very well said...there's a poem about righteous anger that i've posted before and i'll be darn if i can find it again and i can't remember its author. do you know it?

christine  posted on  2006-08-18   16:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do not say this lightly, but anyone who cannot handle the content of another's speech may not be suitable for this forum. Such a person may be better suited for a forum whose moderators control and steer the forum's ideas and speech in a given direction.

Amazing. Those folks proved themselves quickly, didn't they?

BTW, is this piece the result of someone trying to talk you into "moderating" F4 a little bit more?

"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-08-18   16:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We (Zipporah and I) will not censor free speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights.

ZING ZANG BAMMO! HOME RUN!

Aye to that mates!!

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-18   17:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you, I appreciate your affirmation.

christine  posted on  2006-08-18   17:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Henry Van Dyke (1852-1933)

Righteous Wrath

There are many kinds of hatred, as many kinds of fire; And some are fierce and fatal with murderous desire; And some are mean and craven, revengeful, sullen, slow, They hurt the man that holds them more than they hurt his foe.

And yet there is a hatred that purifies the heart: The anger of the better against the baser part, Against the false and wicked, against the tyrant's sword, Against the enemies of love, and all that hate the Lord.

O cleansing indignation, O flame of righteous wrath, Give me a soul to feel thee and follow in thy path! Save me from selfish virtue, arm me for fearless fight, And give me strength to carry on, a soldier of the Right!

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"Freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in ...into an unbearable hell and a choking life."
-OBL
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-18   17:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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