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Title: Is It Time To Get a Divorce from America?
Source: www.axisoflogic.com
URL Source: http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_22809.shtml
Published: Aug 22, 2006
Author: Ezekiel Jones
Post Date: 2006-08-22 15:52:30 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 658
Comments: 34

Is It Time To Get a Divorce from America?
By Ezekiel Jones
Aug 22, 2006, 04:40

Editor’s Note:

This article was received August 22 from Ezekiel Jones with the following introduction:

Below is a submission for Axis of Logic that would make a nice response to Cathy Garger's screed against Michael Ruppert. I left the U. S. in 2005, in part because of what was happening to the country politically. In my view, things have seriously deteriorated since then, to the point that I feel obligated to urge people to leave, or at least make preparations to leave, before it's too late.

I have been amazed by people like Ms. Garger who react so virulently against those who suggest that making a Plan B is prudent at this point. The piece below is an attempt to understand what is going on with these folks that causes such an emotionally over-the-top response.

This seems like reasonable comment to me and is offered in the interest of fair debate. I can also personally attest to receiving many close to a hundred letters from United States citizens during the past half dozen years inquiring about how to immigrate to Canada, for much the same reasons expressed by Mr Jones.

(Articles by Mr. Ruppert and Cathy Garger are linked below)

- Paul Richard Harris, Editor
(and not American)

Anyone who's tried to counsel a friend who's in an abusive relationship will recognize the pattern. The abusee stubbornly holds on to the hope that the abuser can be reformed. She may welcome the sympathy of friends who try to comfort her, but if they firmly suggest that she get out of house and hire a lawyer to begin divorce proceedings, she rebukes them angrily.

That's what I encounter over and over again as an American expatriate who urges people who are rightly afraid of their government to make some preparations to leave the country. They're more than ready to tell you about the fear they feel because their privacy has been breached, their vote left uncounted, their children sent to war, and their liberty and even lives threatened because of their religion, ethnicity, gender orientation or political beliefs. But watch out if you ever suggest that it would be prudent for someone in their position to consider "getting out of the house" before this obviously dangerous abuser makes good on his threats. Cathy Garger's response to Michael Ruppert's departure is an excellent example.

Their emotional reaction is especially telling because moving out of the country was no big deal until a few years ago. For years, people have been retiring to Mexico and Central America to enjoy the warm winters and lower cost of living. Why is it OK to leave the United States to seek a better climate or a cheaper condo but anathema to depart for a place where your phones aren't tapped or detention camps aren't being readied for troublemakers like you?

The best I can come up with is that the answer lies in the emotional connection nearly everyone has to their "homeland." People may dislike or even hate their country's leaders, but they still think of that particular piece of real estate as their "fatherland" or "motherland." And it isn't so much that they love their country as that they need for their country to love them. Who wants to feel rejected or abused by the culture in which they were raised? It's a very hard thing to accept that the place where you live is going to give you nothing but pain because you're black or gay or Muslim. It's terrifying when you're offered the impossible choice between being an outcast--or even outlaw--and changing the very way you think and feel about society or religion or war. The worst thing is that it's not only the government or its leaders who pose the threat but also the majority of your fellow countrymen who either support the growing repression or acquiesce in it.

Divorce is one of the most devastating of life's experiences. Some people will endure alcoholism, infidelity, beatings and even death threats to avoid severing a relationship that they hoped would last a lifetime.

Coming to the realization that you no longer fit in where you were born is traumatic as well. People try to hold on to the smallest positive sign--an "antiwar" candidate's primary victory in a liberal state; rumors that a grand jury will indict a key figure, bad poll numbers for Bush--as an excuse to do nothing in the way of preparation for the possibility that things won't turn around.

Consider that the situation may have reached the point where there are irreconcilable differences between you and the United States of America in its 21st century manifestation. Like the bruised spouse of a wife-beater, it may be time for you to at least get your own bank account, talk to friends about moving in with them, and meet with a lawyer about filing for a restraining order.

Unless you're sure that things will be better from now on.


Ezekiel Jones left the United States in 2005 and now maintains a website, Shelter from the Storm, for people contemplating leaving the U. S.

© Copyright 2006 by AxisofLogic.com


Michael C. Ruppert's Farewell Message:

BY THE LIGHT OF A BURNING BRIDGE. A Permanent Goodbye to the United States


Cathy Garger's Response to Mr. Ruppert: Quicksand and the American Soul - Farewell to Michael C. Ruppert!


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Do you get the feeling the govt wants us to leave?

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#13. To: robin (#0)

Do you get the feeling the govt wants us to leave?

it could well be. they're going to want to silence us one way or another. If we leave, then their task might be easier.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-22   23:21:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Red Jones, Itisa1mosttoolate, robin, christine, Jethro Tull, IndieTX, DuQuoigne, who knows what evil (#13)

I'm leaving, though I'm not burning the bridge. My reasons are more personal than political though. I've got a girlfriend here in Ecuador and we get along just fine. That's why I've been here since March. I'll be putting in for permanent residency.

But it's not a hard decision. In the states I have family and very good friends that I'll miss, but that's about all. I honestly don't share the optimism that the USA can be saved, except by God's grace.

There are many, many problems with the country. One of which almost no one talks about is the sheer size. 300 million people. Ecuador is about 20 million strong. Some quick math shows that one person's vote for president in Ecuador carries some 15 times more weight than a corresponding American's vote just by virtue of the population differences. 15 times. It's like getting to vote 15 times when you go to the polls where in the states you just get to vote once. In the end you have that much more influence over what goes on in the country.

It's a huge country stuck in it's republicrat duopoly. A broken political system, an ignored Constitution, a fiat economy. Stupid judges and a majority of people, it seems, in love with war and death.

Sure there's no utopia in Ecuador or South America. Cops and judges can be bought here, as can be most anyone that works for the government. But I'm thinking there's always some price to be paid for freedom anywhere you go. I no longer think what the USA has is anything special. All the hype we were taught growing up about how lucky we were to be Americans is just an illusion.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-23   1:26:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Neil McIver (#14)

One quick question: How hard is it to make a living there in Ecuador, and how much do you need to make in income to be able to afford the basics as far as food, shelter, clothing, medical care and broadband internet access? Also, do you have any impressions / information about other countries in South America?

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2006-08-23   1:40:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)

One quick question: How hard is it to make a living there in Ecuador, and how much do you need to make in income to be able to afford the basics as far as food, shelter, clothing, medical care and broadband internet access? Also, do you have any impressions / information about other countries in South America?

If you speak spanish and have a good skill, I think you can do quite well here. I'm not familiar with the labor market salaries but you can get a decent house rented here for 3-4 family members for about 300/month. I think that's probably a good index to compute against your own neighborhood. Take the monthly payment for a similar home in your neighborhood and divide, and you got a multiplier roughly figure an average salary or dinner out and all.

I'm in Guayaquil (Ecuador's biggest city) so prices might well be less outside in smaller towns.

Electronics is about the same price as in the states, though. Maybe even more. I think there's a tarrif on such imports.

Medical care is much, much cheaper. I'm on a mailing list of Gary Scott who boasts of how good Ecuador is (I think overblowing it a little), and he claims a knowing a dentist that charges about 20% of the going rate in the US. And I think the facilities are up to snuff.

Internet is growing. When I got here in March they offered 64K/128K/256K for 50/75/100 bucks per month (+12% tax), but since then they've bumped my 128K speed to 400K.

I think Peru is poorer. I'm told Peruvian women come to Ecuador to be a maid for 150/month because that's a lot more than they get in Peru. Flintlock says Bolivia is heaven with much cheaper prices. He thinks Ecuador is expensive. I've not been to any other SA country so can't offer much info there.

If you're thinking of an SA exploratory tour, I'd suggest checking out Argentina & Uruguay. Argentina is supposed to have great steaks at dirt cheap prices.

One thing I don't like about Ecuador is all the gates, locks, walls and fences. They are everywhere. And in the city, everything is concrete. I was in an apartment for a couple months with a sizeable back "yard" covered with it, except for a small round spot for pouring dirty water into the ground and a couple flower gardens.

I'll miss the cool, moist Appalachian forests. Nothing like that here, though the rolling Andean mountains have their own charm. Looks a lot like the wilderness in old western movies.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-23   2:18:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#19. To: Neil McIver, Elliott Jackalope, robin, christine, zipporah, diana, (#16)

I'm in Guayaquil (Ecuador's biggest city

Is it warm? Ecuador is,according to my eighteen year old out of date thought, FANTASTIC.

when I was on the flight over to Guyayquil (I copied Neils spelling) , all the Ecuadorians were up out of their seats to tell us where to go and how beautiful the nation was. We wound up going to a wedding and a reception in Riobamaba(I think).

I do remember the first day, out of Guayaquil, on a bus heading to the highlands, using a rest room in a "resturant" on the highway, and wondering WHAT THE FRIKKING HELL I WAS THINKING TAKING A FRIKKINKN "VACATION" IN FRIKKIKN ECUADOR""""""

It was GREAT. WE tried to climb Chimboroza, started out from the refugio at 15,500 feet at 2:00 aym.

Woefully unprepared we was. We got into something I have never since experienced . Cosmic radiation, blasting the retnias, causing "sparks" on your eyes.

The mountian was MUCH bigger than we were, the winds that kickked up flung my feet off the deep snow, as I grasped with my torso and ice axe for utter survival. I heard sirens in my head due to the lack of Oxygen. The clouds were we in were beyond strange, they were like being in a flouresent light tube -: I have never experienced anything like it. That and the cosmic rays flashing on my retnias, the sixty degree slopes, the tornado winds, Well it did make an impression.

When our German friend, our leader, who did sort of know what he was doing, said, ; Mavbi It got idea ta desnd" . I nodded in agreement, as speach was useless, as I was below him, and the wind was against me. Besides my mouth was froze.

Actually I was estatic, as if we had gone much farther, we all would have been lost. We all had the kiss of death - the motor leg syndrome, where your legs vibrated, and told you no longer really controlled them.

As it was, as we turned down the from the Mighty Chimboroizo, I recall seeing how foolish we were, as from our position, at three aym in the morning, with a magnificent Andean storm upon us, wierd high altitude rays splashing upon us, The moon poked it's head through a few times and cast a cold funeral light upon a vast terrifying landscape Fatigued, frozen, looking down upon a deathly mountian scape we druged ourselves over the life ending cravasses. That night, in the huts called refugios at Chimborozio , the winds were wilder ,by far that I have ever heard or seen in my short life. The sirens were wild in my head, due to the altitude (15,500?), but the exhaustion of the enormous effort to try to climb Chimborozo delt me a deep, unsettled sleep. The wind out side the refugio was TREMENDOUS and scary to me,even as I slept there. I figure we made it to about 17 or 18 thousand feet. I also figure if we had not retreated we all would have died.

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