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Title: Goldi-Lox banned aristeides
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Published: Aug 24, 2006
Author: honway
Post Date: 2006-08-24 19:55:08 by honway
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Goldi-Lox has banned aristeides.

I completely understood Goldi-Lox’s motivations for banning me. I frequently expressed the opinion on Libertypost that the Israeli lobby and Americans that place the interests of Israel above the interests of the United States are a threat to our nation and to our government as defined by the Constitution.

However, banning an individual like aristeides defies explanation. Aristeides has honorably served his country in uniform and believes strongly in America.

As an individual with an impressive educational background and professional expertise, he was able to post his insight and informed opinions on a variety of issues. He brings quality to a forum and that is what brings participants. You can watch CNN and FOX for 24 straight hours and not see one commentator or guest that matches the intellect or the gift for analysis that aristeides brings to the table.

Fortunately, there is a forum that provides a meeting ground for individuals that love this great country and the United States Constitution. I look forward to continuing to learn from aristeides' contributions.

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#195. To: Eoghan (#191)

buildings left behind by the Muslims were pristine clean

I think it should be pointed out that the only synagogue in Baghdad is still un-tank shelled or molested by any ballistic reports...same in Iran.

Some people just hate competition.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-25   21:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: RickyJ (#149)

She may have apologized for those words, but she clearly still feels that way by allowing a poster "packrat????" to continue to be on the board after he stated he would have no problem pushing a button to kill all Palestinians. His post is still on LP today, and he is still posting there. Goldi-Lox knows all about it, she suspeneded me for bringing it to her and other posters attention before banning me.

I have no doubt at all that she still feels that way, and that her apology was essentially hollow, or maybe she was more sorry about the consequences of being called on those words than for actually saying them. Her one defense was that she posted that after a bus bombing in Israel that killed a lot of kids and she posted out of emotion. A tendency she has to do often, actually. But I don't think she cares about the lives of Lebanese/Palestinians. Innocent or guilty, adults or kids... I think it's clear what she hopes for them all.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-25   21:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Neil McIver (#196)

Innocent or guilty, adults or kids... I think it's clear what she hopes for them all.

Quite.

I wouldn't worry so much about 4Dumb. Once we get the hate laws through, that anti-Semitic hellhole will be shut down for good. It's about time some of these Americans start to get some understanding that this crap's not going to be tolerated much longer. Anybody caught badmouthing Israel is committing treachery and treason against the American government in a time of war, and that's the death penalty. When the Pres finally signs the capital punishment order for anti-Semitism, these haters aren't gonna know what hit 'em. posterboy posted on 2006-08-25 01:28:13 ET

jessejane  posted on  2006-08-25   21:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: aristeides (#117)

But, if it did come to pass, anybody with any decency would prefer to be among the oppressed, rather than among the oppressors.

Well said aristeides.. well said..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-08-25   21:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: robin (#175)

There is not enough guts remaining in the rest of the politically correct world to confront the march of islam.

This sort of statement amazes me. That anyone can say something like this is proof of the effect of propaganda and the utter lack of reasoning skills in most of the US publik skool educated populations.

The "March of Islam"? Let's break that down. What are the assumptions behind that statement? Well, the first staggeringly stupid simplictic moron assumption is that there is a unified movement called "Islam" marching across the world. Often ones sees members of the Pee Pee Pant brigade like this poster talking about this guy called "Islam". He is always up to no good.

Now the people who are Moslem are about a billion. They span a hundred plus ethnic groups, tribes, ethnic groups, races, and speak dozens of languages and dialects and are further divided along national borders and sectarian spilts within "Islam". They are spread out from Morrocco to the Polynesians- about 5 or 6 thousand milies. On top of that "Islam" is the most decentralized religion in the world. It has no universally recognized heirarchy and no priesthood. An "Imam" can be anyone with enough money to start a Mosque or savy enough to get others to build one for him. One Imam's "fatwa" has no meaning to another and NO MOSLEM is under any obligation to follow any FATWA he personally doesn't agree with.

But nevermind that. "Islam" to the reichwinger bed wetters is some lockstep "totalitarian" movement that is marching astride the Globe in some global quest for domination (and they have the quotes from some "Imam" to prove it and pictures of some near homeless guys in Times Square with placards saying so).

Often the Nutters cite the "Fact" that 52 of the 59 conflicts in the world involve Moslems. Actually- that is just a lie. There are about 30 on going conflicts in the world and about a dozen involve Moslems- some of them against other Moslems. But that doesn't matter to the nutter. See- all of these conflicts are about about "ruling the world". No room for local reasons or actual history of these conflicts in the nutter brain. Nuance or complexity are their enemy. A nutter like RKKK is far more at home with simplistic comic book explanations that require no actual knowledge of anything. Nope. His "Islam" menance needs to be a tidy stupid cliche comic book cut out. Actual facts hurt his brain.

What other assumption is behind the statement the "march of Islam"? Well- I would imagine that this "islam" must be aggressive militarily? No? No Moslem bases all over the world? No Iran invading anyone 6000 miles from them? What does all of "Islam" spend on "defense"? 5 percent of what the US government does? If that? How can anyone look at a freakin map of the world- and see dozens of US bases doting Islamic lands with two countries invadrf and two others threatened daily and say, first- that the "PC" West isn't "confronting" Islam and second that "Islam" is on the "march?" I mean how does one actually get to that point? Are they just stupid? Seriously? You can't have a wit of intelligence and post such absurd crap like that and be intelligent.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-08-25   21:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Burkeman1 (#199)

Now the people who are Moslem are about a billion.

Last time I pointed that out, over on LP or someplace like it, I was told that I had just damaged our troops' morale.

Are they just stupid?

Yes. And so apparently are most of the people who like their posts or who pay them for their postings.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-25   21:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: aristeides, Ferret Mike (#117)

#117. To: Ferret Mike (#115)

~* I saw Poserboy's little bit of wishful thinking. *~

I don't know if it's wishful thinking. I think it's possible that it could come to pass.

But, if it did come to pass, anybody with any decency would prefer to be among the oppressed, rather than among the oppressors.

aristeides posted on 2006-08-25

I think posterboy, aaron, and white sands should be hung by the neck until dead if they ever dare set foot on US territory.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-08-25   22:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: robin (#200)

Last time I pointed that out, over on LP or someplace like it, I was told that I had just damaged our troops' morale.

So what you're saying, is that you just hate our freedoms, right? /s

You have the RIGHT to think exactly as told.

If it looks bad in the bright light of truth, you're looking for a butt whuppin.

I wouldn't worry so much about 4Dumb. Once we get the hate laws through, that anti-Semitic hellhole will be shut down for good. It's about time some of these Americans start to get some understanding that this crap's not going to be tolerated much longer. Anybody caught badmouthing Israel is committing treachery and treason against the American government in a time of war, and that's the death penalty. When the Pres finally signs the capital punishment order for anti-Semitism, these haters aren't gonna know what hit 'em. posterboy posted on 2006-08-25 01:28:13 ET

jessejane  posted on  2006-08-25   22:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Burkeman1 (#199)

quit making so much sense. ;)

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christine  posted on  2006-08-26   1:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: Burkeman1 (#199)

There is not enough guts remaining in the rest of the politically correct world to confront the march of islam.

Actually there are not enough guts in America, Europe and Russia to confront the march of the Zionists. Also, Islam while not being a huge problem like the so-called "Jews" are, nevertheless is a still a problem, albeit a much smaller one.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   1:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: Dakmar (#201)

"I think posterboy, aaron, and white sands should be hung by the neck until dead if they ever dare set foot on US territory."

Or killed, dried, and rolled up into prayer rugs for King Kong to smoke as cigarettes.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-26   2:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: robin (#200)

"Last time I pointed that out, over on LP or someplace like it, I was told that I had just damaged our troops' morale."

The one who randomly fire on civilian cars to speed them up or move them out of the way, or the ones who rape and kill Iraqi women?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-26   2:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: Ferret Mike (#206)

"Last time I pointed that out, over on LP or someplace like it, I was told that I had just damaged our troops' morale."

The one who randomly fire on civilian cars to speed them up or move them out of the way, or the ones who rape and kill Iraqi women?

No, the ones that spray and pray with a .50 cal in the middle of a crowded street while screaming "yeah motherfucker!"

On a more serious note, lies hurt the troops more than the truth. Guess what happened to German morale in Stalingrad when the troops there heard faked radio broadcasts of the troops being happy, chipper, and singing war songs in their off time.

In truth, the troops there had lost their long range transmitters to the Russians and the guys doing the singing were in comfy sound studios in Berlin at the time.

Poorly crafted lies can be just as damaging as the truth. But who knows, maybe the press releases from the likes of Rummy give the troops a constant supply of dark humor to keep them sane till their tour is up.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2006-08-26   2:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Burkeman1 (#199)

Now the people who are Moslem are about a billion. They span a hundred plus ethnic groups, tribes, ethnic groups, races, and speak dozens of languages and dialects and are further divided along national borders and sectarian spilts within "Islam". They are spread out from Morrocco to the Polynesians- about 5 or 6 thousand milies. On top of that "Islam" is the most decentralized religion in the world. It has no universally recognized heirarchy and no priesthood. An "Imam" can be anyone with enough money to start a Mosque or savy enough to get others to build one for him. One Imam's "fatwa" has no meaning to another and NO MOSLEM is under any obligation to follow any FATWA he personally doesn't agree with.

I remember on LP arguing that all Muslems could not possibly be at war with the rest of the world given their shear numbers. If they really were all terrorist minded, this planet would be in a hell of a lot worse shape than it is right now.

But most of the rest of the points I missed, particularly the lack of centralization, unlike the Catholic church.

A side note re: Israel. It's kind of ironic that the Europeans decided that they should move into Arab territory as compensation for the abuse they suffered in Europe. I'm sure if they had a slab of Germany to call their home the Arab world wouldn't be nearly as P/O'd at them as they are today.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-08-26   3:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Neil McIver (#208)

I remember on LP arguing that all [sic] Muslems could not possibly be at war with the rest of the world given their shear numbers. If they really were all terrorist minded, this planet would be in a hell of a lot worse shape than it is right now.

That's because you miss the entire point about contemporary world-wide conflicts, asshole.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-26   3:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: Eoghan (#185)

A Protestant named John Cabot was the European that "discovered" North America. (The Native Americans actually discovered it). Columbus was just a PIRATE who stole the location of a couple of ISLANDS from their accidental "discoverers" and used them to hand the whole "New World" over to POPE ALEXANDER VI (RODREGO BORGIA).

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-08-26   4:06:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: buckeroo (#209) (Edited)

"That's because you miss the entire point about contemporary world-wide conflicts, asshole."

Neal is a civil and thoughtful poster that has not done one thing to deserve your epithets. At ease the making it personal insult crap, I assure you people here at 4UM know how to do that in their worst moments and don't need lessons from you. Keep it civil. If there is anyone who is clueless concerning worldwide conflicts it is someone who mindlessly considers over a billion people mortal enemies merely over religious differences.

People of all religions need to work out their differences enough to learn it live in peace together. Save the eye for an eye crap, enough of it makes the whole world blind.

Coral Snake goes way overboard with his hysterical conspiracy nonsense concerning the Catholic Church, Goldi and company go insane making a billion Islamic people their mortal enemies, and some people in this forum don't have the ability to find one iota of good in anyone Jewish and that works to discredit any good points they make.

No religion is good or bad in such a black and white manner everyone needs to beat one another black and blue over them. Now kindly get civil, we already know how to bitch slap others verbally and know well it actually does nothing positive and turns off lurkers and people we are trying to get to read and use 4UM.

If you are too intemperate to make an argument to rebut Neal, don't say anything at all. Don't act like the people who were wrongfully tearing into you at LP please. If you came over to prove to them they were correct in conduction ad homenim attacks against you by doing the same to others, you are being foolish.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-26   8:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: buckeroo (#209)

That's because you miss the entire point about contemporary world-wide conflicts, asshole.

Buck...

Why not clean up your act. Your language and your endless name calling gets tiresome. Civil discourse never hurt anyone.

You have something to add but your social manners destroy all of its worth.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-26   8:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: Coral Snake (#210) (Edited)

118. To: Marguerite (#91)

I think Goldi's an @sshole who wears depends
Are you just looking to be banned, just to be able playing the part of the victim elsewhere?

No dee illuminati is so passe... and I have a new IP comming for the election.

And to tell you the truth.

[snip]

That is my story and I'm sticking to it! :)

dilluminati posted on 2006-08-26 09:17:13 ET Reply Trace

http://69.55.11.240/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=156378&Disp=118#C118

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-26   10:49:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: Fred Mertz (#213)

omg, i'd say dill went over the top with that one. he's not banned????

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-26   11:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: Fred Mertz (#213)

My banning happened a day or two after Marguerite complained to Goldi-Lox about my ragging her, Marguerite, for using the nonword "tractations."

aristeides  posted on  2006-08-26   11:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: Fred Mertz (#213)

Ah...sounds like an opus, Fred :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-26   11:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: aristeides (#215)

I'll continue to address Marguerite as Tel Aviv Rose - she's surely earned that nickname.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-26   11:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: Fred Mertz (#213)

That is my story and I'm sticking to it! :)

Fred...

More than I care to read or know...A link would have been sufficient.

Perhaps you could ask it be pulled?

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-26   11:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: aristeides (#215)

I'm not sure if you've seen this thread lately:

http://69.55.11.240/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=156446&Disp=All

Your banning has upset more than a few elPeers.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-26   11:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: Cynicom (#218)

Cynic Old Man,

We're mostly adults here. If and when dilluminati gets canned then we'll know why.

Most of us are scratching our heads as to why Aristeides got canned. So, I think it is relevant to this thread.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-26   11:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Fred Mertz (#217)

There was something about the tone of Marguerite's ping to Goldi-Lox that suggested to me that she was confident Goldi-Lox would have to take action. And that Goldi-Lox quickly did.

aristeides  posted on  2006-08-26   11:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: Cynicom (#218)

A link would have been sufficient.

I think so too. I didn't see it's relevance either. Nor, at this point, do I see it on par with Arestides posting fate.

I wouldn't worry so much about 4Dumb. Once we get the hate laws through, that anti-Semitic hellhole will be shut down for good. It's about time some of these Americans start to get some understanding that this crap's not going to be tolerated much longer. Anybody caught badmouthing Israel is committing treachery and treason against the American government in a time of war, and that's the death penalty. When the Pres finally signs the capital punishment order for anti-Semitism, these haters aren't gonna know what hit 'em. posterboy posted on 2006-08-25 01:28:13 ET

jessejane  posted on  2006-08-26   11:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#223. To: Fred Mertz (#220)

We're mostly adults here

Adults that have some social manners and understanding.

I have heard all of such before and am neither impressed by or interested in reading such postings. Being most are adults, it is too much to ask for a little decorum?

I find it difficult to believe anyone here would allow such language in their home by total strangers. That being the case, perhaps I am in the wrong forum.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-26   11:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#224. To: Pissed Off Janitor, Ferret Mike (#207)

I know that morale is bad among our troops and stress is high. No matter how many awful stories that come out of Iraq, I know there are still many decent Americans trapped in those uniforms; all ages, both genders, trying to serve their county honorably.

The same could be said about Germans in WWII.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-26   11:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: Fred Mertz, apple, Jethro Tull, ALL (#219)

To: leveller (#14)

Behold the future of LP I think it's dangerous when someone is banned in a secret way. It reminds me of the way things are done by the Bush administration...eg state secrets precedents and signing statements etc.

Only transparency and accountability create trust.

PS - I don't care what people post. Let it rip, I say.

apple posted on 2006-08-26 11:05:48 ET Reply Trace

apple should come here.

OK, guys, i'm clicking on LP threads and i hear a female voice that says, "oh my god."

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-26   11:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: jessejane (#222)

I think so too.

Vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity is a childs game.

There are many forums where that is the expected and accepted norm. That is the place for such as the above.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-08-26   11:29:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Fred Mertz (#220)

It should have not been posted there, it need not be repeated here. A link would have sufficed.

I have to agree with the growing consensus on this point.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-26   11:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: jessejane (#222)

Just for you, sweet cakes, I'll try the edit feature on dilluminati's posting.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-26   11:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: christine (#225)

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=156133&Disp=41#C41

Click that link on. Do you hear the words, "Oh my God"?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-26   11:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: robin (#224)

I agree that there are many decent men and women trapped in uniform doing a job that contradicts the mission they are actually supposed to be in uniform to accomplish; namely the defense and protection of the United States.

In Iraq, they are working as Mercenaries for the Neo-Con agenda.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-26   11:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: Cynicom (#226)

That is the place for such as the above.

Agreed.

I wouldn't worry so much about 4Dumb. Once we get the hate laws through, that anti-Semitic hellhole will be shut down for good. It's about time some of these Americans start to get some understanding that this crap's not going to be tolerated much longer. Anybody caught badmouthing Israel is committing treachery and treason against the American government in a time of war, and that's the death penalty. When the Pres finally signs the capital punishment order for anti-Semitism, these haters aren't gonna know what hit 'em. posterboy posted on 2006-08-25 01:28:13 ET

jessejane  posted on  2006-08-26   11:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: Jethro Tull (#229)

off topic: palo is back at LP?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-26   11:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: Ferret Mike (#227)

I cleaned it up for you and the Cynical Old Man too.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-08-26   11:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: Fred Mertz (#228)

Just for you, sweet cakes, I'll try the edit feature on dilluminati's posting.

Thank you Fred.

Your post and gentle gesture is very much appreciated.

:)!!! ~jj

I wouldn't worry so much about 4Dumb. Once we get the hate laws through, that anti-Semitic hellhole will be shut down for good. It's about time some of these Americans start to get some understanding that this crap's not going to be tolerated much longer. Anybody caught badmouthing Israel is committing treachery and treason against the American government in a time of war, and that's the death penalty. When the Pres finally signs the capital punishment order for anti-Semitism, these haters aren't gonna know what hit 'em. posterboy posted on 2006-08-25 01:28:13 ET

jessejane  posted on  2006-08-26   11:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: robin (#232)

oh yeah. For a while now...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-26   11:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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