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Title: I am Sam Danner
Source: From My Laptop
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 24, 2006
Author: Sam Danner
Post Date: 2006-08-24 20:50:21 by SamDanner
Keywords: Global Hawk, Titles-Articles, Flight 77
Views: 1925
Comments: 109

To the readers of this Forum. I am Sam Danner and yes I am the one that was at the Pentagon and found nothing. If you are going to argue with me then do not bother to answer this post. What I said was and is true and I will hold on to it until the day I die. I was Duped into Lying about the Pentagon crash because of goverment intimadation and extreme Pressure put on me by Family matters. I have 4 more witnesses that are coming forward to talk about this subject. One of these People is employed by the Pentagon. So I now have big time fire power to back up My story and then some. I was under extreme pressure to recant the whole Story. I have Lymphoma so I am not bothered by Death.

Russell Pickering I am sirprized at you putting the bad mouth on Myself and Eric Hufschmid. I have read your postts and you professional answers seem vague. I stand by My story as I sit here typing topic. You have too many inconsitencies in your research. People of this Forum ,it appears to me to have been a Global Hawk that hit the Pentagon. It was not an American Airlines 757-300. I can tell you that for certain. A 100 Ton Aircraft that burned so hot that the whole aircraft just melted down!! Horse Hockey!! Did you see tha terrible plane Crash in Russia 2 Days ago

Now look at those pictures. That was a plane crash. I did not see one arm rest Seat or cushion and no wings at all. Why can not people see things for what they really are? I am very sad that this happened. I ope to God in Heaven that the US goverment had nothing to do withh this. Not one Body mind you. Did they all burned up too in the blazing in ferno? BTW Mr. I was not wearing a Fake Paramedic uniform. That is what sick people do

Go to fires and talk about how brave they are. That is inmoral to say the least. And I had white shirt Goverment agents helping to pick up the little tiny pieces. Mr. researher I find your knowledge of Aircraft to be in want. For you young people do not believe what everyone saids. You even do not have to believe me. This is the United States of America. The land of the free. Samuel David Danner August 24th 2006 And you have the FREEDOM to think. Nobody can take that away.

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#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#21)

To: Kamala, Sam Danner You didn't address Mark's post about whether or not that was your kid who posted all this stuff on another forum.

Keep Reading as I posted the answer just for you. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   17:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

To: SamDanner Thank you, Sam. Who organized that search you were part of?

To My Friend Jethro Tull. There was a Total Kaos of confusion right after it happened. Now this is My opinion and My observations as I one 53 year old adult man saw this. Who was in Control???? You tell me!! It took about 30 minutes to see things Kind of straighten out. That search line I just fell into. A Man standing behind me in a Starched white Collar Shirt as you can Barely make out in the Fox Cable News shot was to me to be Calling some of the shots. I think his name is Erstine or Eckstine. Eckstine as I see it here was the name. You ask, well how did you know that? He had a Pentagon ID and we kind of had a Verbal between one another. By this time they had the road closed off and nobody seem too concern about who I was. The Pentagon Employees were very very Confused. There were about 8 well dressed Mens giving instructions. There were no bodies. There was very little and I mean very little parts of anything. There was one pieace of painted white and red that was about 3 by 5 ft. The pot of gold Layed under a big blue Plastic tarp. Now what was that? Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   17:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge (#18)

To: SamDanner Hi Sam. One thing that I'm curious about because the accounts are so conflicting:

What was the final trajectory of the craft that hit the Pentagon? How high was it? What

Randge; I will be as Honest to you about this as I can. I was(I Thought)on I-395 going south from Washington DC. Well somehow I found Myself on RT 27 south the acess road to the Pentagon Parking lot. Well before I got to the Helicopter pad I looked to my left (East)and I saw something. Others saw this something. Was it a UFO? It came from behind me which would be a north direction. The truth was it came from the west right around my back. It had alledgelly flown from Ohio with the Transponder turned on. So many people very fast saw a Major Problem was going on in a Hurry. So the THING FLEW SOUTH My direction and southwest and then right into us on rt 27 North at an altitude of about 50 to 75 ft Made a very tight 90 degree bank to the right and hit the Bank side of the Pentagon at an Angle and it exploded in a very Bright white Flash of light. Not alot of flame as much as a explosion and shockwave that you could feel hit your Chest. I could write alot about this but The forum does not have the room. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   18:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Red Jones (#25)

Red Jones: I just want to thankyou for your very Kind post in that I see that you are a very smart person and I agree with you 100 percent. You can E-mail me at ONESOURCES@AOL.COM and that goes for anybody. Sam Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   18:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: SamDanner (#33)

I've noticed a pattern in disinformation. Usually someone will come out with something contrary to the mainstream, and then a friend or family member will discredit them.

I'm sorry to see it happen here.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-08-25   18:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: SamDanner (#38)

Thanks Sam. I'm sure there was lots of confusion, but did this person get the names of you people conducting the search? Did he ask for ID? What did he say to look for? What was found? How far from the impact site were you guys? Thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-25   19:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: SamDanner, Critter (#34)

I can e-mail to you First class pictures of the petagon Plane wreckage and then I want you to write me a Comentary on those Many tiny Pieces and that Broken Turbine Shaft. I am not making Fun of you son. I just want you to THINK for yourself.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sam

Hello Sam,

Thanks for sharing your experience.

If you have the time to email the photos to honway419@yahoo.com, I would be glad to post the images on this forum so everyone here can see them. I think it is safe to say we all would like to see them. You have found a forum where the participants are genuinely interested in the truth and appreciate firsthand accounts above government press releases.

honway  posted on  2006-08-25   19:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: SamDanner (#0)

shit, a plane obviously didn't hit the pentagon.

what happened when the damn planes hit the wtc?

big ass fireball and lots a shit flying everywhere.

what happened in every plane crash every place in history?

lotsa shit on the ground and signs of burning.

none of that at the pentagon.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-08-25   19:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#41)

Usually someone will come out with something contrary to the mainstream, and then a friend or family member will discredit them.

It reminds me a little about the time the manager of the Comfort Inn in Portland where Mohamed Atta reportedly spent his last night started posting on Freerepublic. This woman had a story she needed to tell and many decided to be confrontational. She stated in a news interview she had a photocopy of the receipt for the motel room. Had she been treated with empathy and respect it is possible an image of that receipt would be available to everyone on the internet now.She also reported she handed over to the FBI the security camera video recording the hijackers checking in. The public has never seen that video footage.

The most significant information she shared on FR was that the FBI directed her to be tested for anthrax long before the first case of anthrax was reported,.i.e on or about 9/11/01.

honway  posted on  2006-08-25   19:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: SamDanner (#39)

Sam: Thanks for your kind reply. I have unintentionally found myself on that same detour myself. It's very tricky and the entire system makes it hard to describe an event like this with reference to landscape and landmarks, but I think I am getting a picture of what you are saying.

I remember driving around DC looking up at aircraft and thinking: "Oh my God, one of these days." It's hard to believe that it's been five years and that we are just beginning to piece this all together.

Many thanks to you and all those who have courageously helped put together so many pieces of the puzzle. I hope that you remain well.

randge  posted on  2006-08-25   20:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

Thanks Sam. I'm sure there was lots of confusion, but did this person get the names of you people conducting the search? Did he ask for ID? What did he say to look for? What was found? How far from the impact site were you guys? Thanks

Jethro : The reason there was so much Confusion is that People or at least most of the regular Pentagon Employes did not know about Flight77. So they Had no Idea as to what Hit them. My wife work for a Large news Paer back then and Cell phone me to tell me that a Boeing 757-300 was Headed to Washington DC. BUT LISTEN TO THIS. ALL OF THE COAT AND TIE LEADERSHIP KNEW WHAT WAS COMING AND HOW DID THEY KNOW THAT????? Now for your answer. This Mr. Erstine or Ecstein did not Question me at all because I was fully Dressed in My Paramedic cloths.all of the Uniform told him as to who I was and I even had a Name tag on. A one Mr. Russell Pickering of http://www.pentagonresearch.com will post here at this site and I am waiting for Him. He claims from other Talk shows that I had a Fake EMT unifornm on. THIS IS A LIE. He will try to discredit me. He is very Jealous of Pentagon Turf. What was Foung. Fiber Carbon wreckage that is high tech state of the art Composites for building the lastest state of the art aircraft. I found Shredded aluminun of non-American Airline paint scheme. And 1 smashed Jet engine that could have been a apu. More aon that later. I stodd 20 feet from the impact site after the building just strangely fell in on itself. It was done on Comand like the WTC Towers. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   21:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: All of this wonderful Board (#47)

I want you all and the webmaster to know that this is the Most Balanced website that I have ever been at. Your E-MAILS are kind and alot of you appear to understand what I am really going through. I am sorry for the poor spelling. There is no spell check on here and I type to each person who writes. As a result of My coming forward with this and then Recanting to try to save My marriage I have failed as a Husband as My wife is leaving me. I said that I lied because A. It tore My Family apart. The secret service did a pitt Maneuver on My 1995 Saturn and off the interstate I went and strange Calls in the night and I could say more. And of course I have Lynphoma (Cancer). I want to know the truth Ladies and Gentleman. That Is all I ask and I thank you all for being here for me. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   22:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#48)

Oh By the way: I will extend interviews but only if I have other Truth seekers with me for witnesses. This includes Television interviews with any of you on the set. I mean this. I will not let any body trip me up. So all http://Freedom4um.com Friends are welcome. Good night all . Samuel D. Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   22:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: SamDanner (#48)

I want to know the truth

as do we, Sam. thank you for the kind words about us and this forum. may i ask how it is you found Freedom4um?

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-25   22:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: SamDanner (#47)

On 9-11, I was on I-95 returning from FL. I was in NC heading into VA when the Pentagon happened, I can't recall any mention of a plane coming into DC - I was glued to the radio like the rest of the riding public. When the Pentagon was struck, I-95 was closed ASAP and I was detoured West into VA. It took me 12 hours to get into PA. How (and where) did you park your car? Did you get any of the names of your fellow searchers? IIRC, I-95 was closed until 9-12. How did you get back home? BTW, how did you manage to come across this forum? Thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-25   22:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#50)

may i ask how it is you found Freedom4um?

Dear Christine; I am NOT a vain or fame attention seeking man. I have raised My Family well. I have ALWAYS loved the United States Of America. Always Christine. My own son said on a Radio interview that I wanted attention. Well everyone is Human and we all like a Little stroking sometime. But Christine look at all of this attention I have. If this is Fame and attention seeking then I need to be in a Mental Instution. My whole life is destroy because I had to do the right thing. Well I said all of that to say this to you young Lady. I have 37 References on Google alone under 2 search Words. And they are Sam Danner. I could just die. Well I could not trust alot of forums because a every webmaster has a Agenda. Alex Jones, Christopher Bollyn, Dylan Avery, Eric Hufschmid and the list goes on and on. But I came across this web site and saw that the format was very different and the software was excellent. I read many of the posts and much to My sirprize I did not find people Flaming one another and everyone has been so objective for the truth. I do not live and die and say that I saw a Global Hawk hit the Pentatgon. I could be wrong Christine about that 400 knotts that the thing was flying at. so I decided to write a good TRUTHFUL and HONEST post and just let it go. I never thought that it would be a big deal! So I found this site by Chance and here we are. What is the big deal about My Name anyway,LOL. Now I am on the East coast and it is almost 11:30PM. Thankyou for the question. Sam Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   23:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

To: SamDanner On 9-11, I was on I-95 returning from FL. I was in NC heading into VA when the Pentagon happened, I can't recall any mention of a plane coming into DC - I was glued to the radio like the rest of the riding public. When the Pentagon was struck, I-95 was closed ASAP and I was detoured West into VA. It took me 12 hours to get into PA. How (and where) did you park your car? Did you get any of the names of your fellow searchers? IIRC, I-95 was closed until 9-12. How did you get back home? BTW, how did you manage to come across this forum? Thank

I just answered the How did I find this forum to Christine so you can read that. And yes you have Hit the Magic words. I made and exchanged between about 10 people. Some were like you and me and I found a smoking Gun from the Pentagon Employees Themselves. I just had a meeting with them tonight in Washington DC. You will be shocked My Friends. I can say no more for now. Sam PS. I park right on the road and My ID got me out of there.

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   23:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: SamDanner (#52)

You are welcomed here, Sam. Rest well.

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-25   23:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: SamDanner (#47)

I found Shredded [sic] aluminun of non-American Airline paint scheme.

Cool. Did you also find Barbara Olson's cell phone?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-25   23:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: SamDanner, Christine, Neil McIver, Aristeides, Honway, all (#12)

Welcome aboard!

Please offer an opinion on my web site -

http://home.comcast.net/~skyd rifter/exp.htm


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-26   0:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: honway (#45)

I remember that. I also remember something about the woman disappearing too.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-08-26   2:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Kamala (#22)

Kamala, you might want to stay off of the Loose Change forums. You will get a ton of dis-info on them.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   2:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#54)

You are welcomed here, Sam. Rest well.

Christine I live in fear 24/7. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-26   4:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: RickyJ (#58)

Yeah ok Ricky. How about this instead, you might want to stay away from reading the LF forums,

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-26   5:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#41)

People have become subjective and lost their objectivity.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-26   5:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: SamDanner (#0)

Sam, if you're telling the truth about witnessing the impact of something other than a commercial Jet I am grateful for your testimony.

I personally think that Eric Hufschmid is a trouble making little punk. The debate that took place on yesterdays Michael Collins Piper program demonstrated that Hufschmid has an immature attitude and thinks this is all a game. He went so far as to say everyone in the 9-11 truth movement needs to be investigated.

In my humble opinion, Hufschmid and Daryl Smith, are both agents provocateur. Daryl Smith merely regurgitates (Jew) info gleaned from others work product, and as recently as 2 years ago was calling anyone opposed to the disproportionate amount of Jew influence in the U.S. Government an "anti- semite" and "bigot". Hiding out in France, he should simply shut the fuck up.

Daryl's own brother contacted Michael Collins Piper on the air and said "he wasn't surprised at all by what Daryl was doing" ... implying that Daryl is a problem child and always has been.

I think Hufschmid used you Sam, as well as Chris Bollyn to support his Global Hawk theory. That wouldn't be terrible except that he went out of his way to bad mouth others that simply search for and publish their findings regarding the truth and lies of that day.

"bene orasse est bene studuisse"

to have studied well is to have prayed well

noone222  posted on  2006-08-26   7:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: noone222 (#62)

In my humble opinion, Hufschmid and Daryl Smith, are both agents provocateur.

Anyone who sides with these two, has zero credibility. Period.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-26   7:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Kamala (#60)

Yeah ok Ricky. How about this instead, you might want to stay away from reading the LF forums,

Mark

You could learn a heck of a lot there. Dis-info is certainly there but at least they are for the most part not blind to Israel's roll in 9/11 like the "Loose Change" promoters are.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   9:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: all (#58)

I think we might be well served to take a step back and take a deep breath before we accuse anyone of dis-info. It will all rise to the surface in time.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-26   9:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: SamDanner (#53)

What's the deal with the weird capitalization scheme you use?

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-26   10:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Arete (#66)

What's the deal with the weird capitalization scheme you use?

Hey, he's dying of cancer, with all the drugs he is taking it's amazing he can type at all or think somewhat clearly.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   10:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: RickyJ (#67)

Hey, he's dying of cancer, with all the drugs he is taking it's amazing he can type at all or think somewhat clearly

Oh, I see. I didn't realize that cancer and drugs would lead to excessive but selective use of the shift key. You learn something everyday.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-26   14:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Arete (#68)

Oh, I see. I didn't realize that cancer and drugs would lead to excessive but selective use of the shift key. You learn something everyday.

Richard W.

I am not saying that they do, or that he is who he says he is, or that he is telling us the truth. But until I have proof he's not telling the truth I don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   17:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: RickyJ (#69)

I am not saying that they do, or that he is who he says he is, or that he is telling us the truth. But until I have proof he's not telling the truth I don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I had a feeling when I asked the question that it would be taken the wrong way. I really (honest) wanted to know about the capitalization scheme he uses. Nothing more than idle curiosity. I did figure though, that it wouldn't be long before someone decides to line up all the caps, strike every second or third letter and come up with a secret message. LOL

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-26   18:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Arete (#70)

I really (honest) wanted to know about the capitalization scheme he uses. Nothing more than idle curiosity. I did figure though, that it wouldn't be long before someone decides to line up all the caps, strike every second or third letter and come up with a secret message. LOL

Hey, that might be the case. I'm not really worried about it, the truth of 9/11 IMO was meant to be known to a certain extent. It's unfortunately all part of the plan.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   18:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: RickyJ (#71)

the truth of 9/11 IMO was meant to be known to a certain extent. It's unfortunately all part of the plan.

that is the way I think it is too.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-26   18:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: RickyJ This is to the whole board (#71)

I really (honest) wanted to know about the capitalization scheme he uses. Nothing more than idle curiosity. I did figure though, that it wouldn't be long before someone decides to line up all the caps, strike every second or third letter and come up with a secret message. LOL

I use Capitals to accent certain thoughts in a Sentence. I am very upset and Hurt that anybody in there right mind would say tings about Chemotherpy and Drugs and How Terminal Cancer would affect My writting skills. I have Lymphoma type B Blod Cncer. Do you all think that is Funny? I get Hassled by federal agents my family is destroyed over the 9-11 issue and i come forward to tell all and have to be made fun of Capitals in E-mails and told he does that because He being me Has Cancer. Christine Help. SamDanner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-26   19:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: SamDanner (#73)

Hang in here with us, Sam.

Most of us here have degrees behind our names (mainly worthless) that required us to learn how to spell, capitalize, and use correct grammar. That said, this in no way diminishes your message, or how it is presented to us.

For your cancer, have you checked out http://www.coljoe.com for his cancer information? I am currently using his protocol for our family.

Please keep us posted, thanks.

Lod  posted on  2006-08-26   20:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: SamDanner (#73)

Sometimes people don't always read the whole thread before posting. I always regret doing that. Please don't take offense at one poster's careless and unintentionally insensitive remarks.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-26   20:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: SamDanner (#0)

does everyone here know that the owners of Clown Posse are Ken Giles and Cindy Griffin? It's true!

joe batters  posted on  2006-08-26   20:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: joe batters (#76)

Let's see if that works (wink)

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-26   20:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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