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Title: I am Sam Danner
Source: From My Laptop
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 24, 2006
Author: Sam Danner
Post Date: 2006-08-24 20:50:21 by SamDanner
Keywords: Global Hawk, Titles-Articles, Flight 77
Views: 1866
Comments: 109

To the readers of this Forum. I am Sam Danner and yes I am the one that was at the Pentagon and found nothing. If you are going to argue with me then do not bother to answer this post. What I said was and is true and I will hold on to it until the day I die. I was Duped into Lying about the Pentagon crash because of goverment intimadation and extreme Pressure put on me by Family matters. I have 4 more witnesses that are coming forward to talk about this subject. One of these People is employed by the Pentagon. So I now have big time fire power to back up My story and then some. I was under extreme pressure to recant the whole Story. I have Lymphoma so I am not bothered by Death.

Russell Pickering I am sirprized at you putting the bad mouth on Myself and Eric Hufschmid. I have read your postts and you professional answers seem vague. I stand by My story as I sit here typing topic. You have too many inconsitencies in your research. People of this Forum ,it appears to me to have been a Global Hawk that hit the Pentagon. It was not an American Airlines 757-300. I can tell you that for certain. A 100 Ton Aircraft that burned so hot that the whole aircraft just melted down!! Horse Hockey!! Did you see tha terrible plane Crash in Russia 2 Days ago

Now look at those pictures. That was a plane crash. I did not see one arm rest Seat or cushion and no wings at all. Why can not people see things for what they really are? I am very sad that this happened. I ope to God in Heaven that the US goverment had nothing to do withh this. Not one Body mind you. Did they all burned up too in the blazing in ferno? BTW Mr. I was not wearing a Fake Paramedic uniform. That is what sick people do

Go to fires and talk about how brave they are. That is inmoral to say the least. And I had white shirt Goverment agents helping to pick up the little tiny pieces. Mr. researher I find your knowledge of Aircraft to be in want. For you young people do not believe what everyone saids. You even do not have to believe me. This is the United States of America. The land of the free. Samuel David Danner August 24th 2006 And you have the FREEDOM to think. Nobody can take that away.

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#1. To: SamDanner, Kamala, Arator, robin, mehitable, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, SKYDRIFTER, IndieTx, Yertle Turtle, valis, Horse, (#0) (Edited)

Welcome, Sam. I heard you interviewed on Alex Jones' show a few weeks ago. God bless you for coming forward. This forum is not hostile territory. We are 911 Truthers here.

christine  posted on  2006-08-24   20:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: SamDanner (#0)

Sam, welcome. Were you on AJ's or Jack Blood's show? I heard but listen to so many I forget who did the interview.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-24   21:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SamDanner (#0)

Welcome, Sir.

Thank you for your truthful information.

That is what we are seeking here.

Cheers, and best wishes.

Lod  posted on  2006-08-24   21:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SamDanner (#0)

And you have the FREEDOM to think. Nobody can take that away.

Welcome Sam. You're in friendly territory!


LEAP


"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-24   21:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SamDanner, ALL (#0) (Edited)

Sam Danner; An Eyewitness to the Crash at the Pentagon!

Sam Danner (red arrow), was one of the people who helped pick up scraps. The white arrow points to a mysterious agent with a name like "Erkstein" who was directing the destruction of evidence. As is typical, the FBI and other agencies were waiting for the event so that they could immediately intimidate witnesses, destroy evidence, and chase away any honest policemen.

christine  posted on  2006-08-24   21:12:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#5)

Combing the PentaLawn for naught.

Lod  posted on  2006-08-24   21:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: SamDanner (#0) (Edited)

I have 4 more witnesses that are coming forward to talk about this subject. One of these People is employed by the Pentagon. So I now have big time fire power to back up My story and then some.

This is good news, Sam. Thank you for stepping forward to help save this country. You are a hero and heroes are given a hero's welcome here at Freedom4um!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-08-24   21:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#1)

Sam Danner's Story Isn't True....., he is my father...take my word for it...

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8567

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-24   21:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lodwick, IndieTX (#6)

I’ve been to lots of accident/crime scenes, even a plane crash near JFK and I never remember non members of the force being permitted to search a scene. Now I fully believe Sam was present, that isn't in doubt. My question is regarding this "Erkstein" guy. This reeks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-24   21:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull (#9)

"Erkstein"

I'm beginning to question anyone with a 'stein or a 'stien after their name.

Lod  posted on  2006-08-24   21:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SamDanner (#0)

Sam, can you clarify whether or not that was your son who posted at the forum Kamala linked to above? If you have a son named Matt and that was him, what the heck is going on here?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-08-24   21:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Sam, welcome. Were you on AJ's or Jack Blood's show? I heard but listen to so many I forget who did the interview.

To my Friend Jethro Tull: I was NOT on Jack Blood,s show. I was on Alex Jones Show. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-24   22:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: SamDanner (#12)

Thank you, Sam. Who organized that search you were part of?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-24   22:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SamDanner (#0)

Thanks for sharing your story Sam. Prayers for you and your family.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-24   22:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#5)

arrow points to a mysterious agent with a name like "Erkstein" who was directing the destruction of evidence. As is typical, the FBI and other agencies were waiting for the event so that they could immediately intimidate witnesses, destroy evidence, and chase away any honest policemen

Christine: That Picture was taken by a Fox Cable news Chopper. It is very hard to see. It took a Long time to figure out where I was. Those Federal guys give me the Creeps. I asked them about Bodies and why were we now concerned at all little pieces of metal. It was a Dog and Pony show. No orange Flags to mark evidence. I asked about this trash clean up detail and I was told that it was none of My Damn business. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-24   22:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SamDanner (#0)

Welcome Sam, and my prayers go with you for improved health. You're a brave man. Thank you for coming forward.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-08-24   22:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#14)

Thanks for sharing your story Sam. Prayers for you and your family.

Thankyou Robin. It is people like you that encourage me to live. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-24   23:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: SamDanner (#15)

Hi Sam. One thing that I'm curious about because the accounts are so conflicting:

What was the final trajectory of the craft that hit the Pentagon? How high was it? What was the length of travel as it leveled out to make the strike?

randge  posted on  2006-08-24   23:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SamDanner (#17) (Edited)

My hat's off to you sam. You have got guts, especially if that is your real name.

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk /flash.htm

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-24   23:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SamDanner (#15)

Sam, may I ask how you were included to be in the search? Who was it that asked you? Surely, there must have been some organization? Were all of the white shirted men FBI agents or were they Pentagon employees?

christine  posted on  2006-08-24   23:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Kamala, Sam Danner (#8)

You didn't address Mark's post about whether or not that was your kid who posted all this stuff on another forum.

Please clarify.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-08-24   23:42:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Arator (#21)

Samuel Danner - E M T Rescuer, Pentagon Hit Eyewitness Account

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7703

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-25   6:57:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Kamala (#22)

good site Mark, but what are all thosr mp3 files? pray for Sam D.

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-08-25   7:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine, Sam Danner (#5)

what a great thread!

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-25   7:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SamDanner (#0)

consider the people at the pentagon that day (and I know you were there SamDanner). Many of these people saw first-hand that the actual facts that happened were nothing like what the tv & government were telling the nation. These people knew that it was their job to be cannon-fodder in this 'war on terror'. They knew that great evil was in-charge. They knew that some of their own ranks had been murdered by the big bosses. and yet they are expected to follow these big bosses and go out and committ murder on command.

Consider also that this fantastic lie told on a grand scale that a Boeing 727 hit the pentagon that day is in reality part of a mind-control or brainwashing scheme. If they can get us to believe a grand lie like that simply because they say so despite all real evidence, then they get us to compromise our ability to think and our independent will. They train us to be their servants in essence.

IMHO we may not be able to defeat them as we would like. But we should hold onto our hearts and our minds and not give them these things.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-25   8:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SamDanner (#0)

You were right....... hook line and sinker!!!!!!!!

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-08-25   9:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Red Jones (#25)

Red, as I understand it there are numerous videos (more than 70?) of the event taken from various sources all confiscated by the FBI-types. This matter could be put to bed quickly if they were released to the public. Numerous FOIA actions have been greeted with a stone wall, only to add to the questions many of us have. That silliness (the video of something hitting the Pentagon) they released a few months back only fueled speculation, IMHO.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-25   9:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

there are numerous videos (more than 70?) of the event taken from various sources all confiscated by the FBI-types. This matter could be put to bed quickly if they were released to the public.

I don't recall anyone saying they actually saw a 757 flying into the building. A lot saw the aircraft high and circling but I recall none saying they saw this thing flying at ground level at 400 knots into the building, something, if seen fist hand, one would never forget. Like a photograph.

Pretty obvious the security cams were confiscated because of what they wouldn't show, else why not release them?


LEAP


"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-08-25   10:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SamDanner (#0)

I was Duped into Lying about the Pentagon crash because of goverment intimadation and extreme Pressure put on me by Family matters.

That sounds like an interesting story all in itself.

"GM is not a car company, it's a bank that gives free cars to its customers when they take out a loan."--Magorn.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2006-08-25   10:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

That silliness (the video of something hitting the Pentagon) they released a few months back only fueled speculation, IMHO

Purposefully. They are trying to discredit the 9/11 truth movement by bringing us all down this dead end. They will eventually release another video clearly showing the plane hitting and will say, "See? We told ya!" and whammo, the truth movement is KO'd for good.

I am going to find the pictures of the Pentagon crash that changed my mind about what hit it. There were plenty of signs that a plane did indeed hit it. I'll post them here.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-25   11:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lodwick (#10)

man i was thinking the same thing. what is this guy, an israeli agent or what.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-08-25   11:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Critter (#30)

BINGO!

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-25   12:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Kamala (#8)

To: christine

Sam Danner's Story Isn't True....., he is my father...take my word for it...

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8567

To all who want to know about My son. I will no longer send Private E-Mail as I have to write Many times. Matthew Danner age 24 is My only son. I also have 2 Daughters. When I 1st Broke this story it was AOL that got me upset. They showed me 5 sacared Frames showing me a Very Large American Airlines Jumbo Jet Hitting the Pentagon!!!! Of course I am kidding you. We all saw the Pictures and they were pictures of nothing. Well I carried these terrible memories in My Heart for 5 years and when I saw that AOL didy about the goverment is releasing 5 Frames to the Stupid public and I saw nothing I got very mad. Matthew My son loves me and is trying to protect his father. He does not want to see me hurt or worst yet Killed over this issue. Do not forget I have Cancer. Matthew in good Faith told the Public at LooseChange forum that I made all of it up and then He said well part of it and I thought He has that right and Freedoms to say that about his Father. I quit giving Radio and Television interviews in respect for Him. I hope that Answers your questions. If not then E-mail me. Or I will call you on you Cell Phone. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   17:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Critter (#30)

Express to Critter

I can e-mail to you First class pictures of the petagon Plane wreckage and then I want you to write me a Comentary on those Many tiny Pieces and that Broken Turbine Shaft. I am not making Fun of you son. I just want you to THINK for yourself.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   17:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Indrid Cold (#29)

To: SamDanner

I was Duped into Lying about the Pentagon crash because of goverment intimadation and extreme Pressure put on me by Family matters. That sounds like an interesting story all in itself.

Would you like to know what it feels like to have your life under a Microscope. I can not print here the things that have Happened to me. How ever I will tell you in person or e-mail. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   17:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SamDanner (#34)

I can e-mail to you First class pictures of the petagon Plane wreckage

Please do. I'd like to see them.

critter183@zlonk.com will work for an email address.

Thanks!

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-08-25   17:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#21)

To: Kamala, Sam Danner You didn't address Mark's post about whether or not that was your kid who posted all this stuff on another forum.

Keep Reading as I posted the answer just for you. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   17:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#13)

To: SamDanner Thank you, Sam. Who organized that search you were part of?

To My Friend Jethro Tull. There was a Total Kaos of confusion right after it happened. Now this is My opinion and My observations as I one 53 year old adult man saw this. Who was in Control???? You tell me!! It took about 30 minutes to see things Kind of straighten out. That search line I just fell into. A Man standing behind me in a Starched white Collar Shirt as you can Barely make out in the Fox Cable News shot was to me to be Calling some of the shots. I think his name is Erstine or Eckstine. Eckstine as I see it here was the name. You ask, well how did you know that? He had a Pentagon ID and we kind of had a Verbal between one another. By this time they had the road closed off and nobody seem too concern about who I was. The Pentagon Employees were very very Confused. There were about 8 well dressed Mens giving instructions. There were no bodies. There was very little and I mean very little parts of anything. There was one pieace of painted white and red that was about 3 by 5 ft. The pot of gold Layed under a big blue Plastic tarp. Now what was that? Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   17:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge (#18)

To: SamDanner Hi Sam. One thing that I'm curious about because the accounts are so conflicting:

What was the final trajectory of the craft that hit the Pentagon? How high was it? What

Randge; I will be as Honest to you about this as I can. I was(I Thought)on I-395 going south from Washington DC. Well somehow I found Myself on RT 27 south the acess road to the Pentagon Parking lot. Well before I got to the Helicopter pad I looked to my left (East)and I saw something. Others saw this something. Was it a UFO? It came from behind me which would be a north direction. The truth was it came from the west right around my back. It had alledgelly flown from Ohio with the Transponder turned on. So many people very fast saw a Major Problem was going on in a Hurry. So the THING FLEW SOUTH My direction and southwest and then right into us on rt 27 North at an altitude of about 50 to 75 ft Made a very tight 90 degree bank to the right and hit the Bank side of the Pentagon at an Angle and it exploded in a very Bright white Flash of light. Not alot of flame as much as a explosion and shockwave that you could feel hit your Chest. I could write alot about this but The forum does not have the room. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   18:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Red Jones (#25)

Red Jones: I just want to thankyou for your very Kind post in that I see that you are a very smart person and I agree with you 100 percent. You can E-mail me at ONESOURCES@AOL.COM and that goes for anybody. Sam Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   18:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: SamDanner (#33)

I've noticed a pattern in disinformation. Usually someone will come out with something contrary to the mainstream, and then a friend or family member will discredit them.

I'm sorry to see it happen here.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-08-25   18:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: SamDanner (#38)

Thanks Sam. I'm sure there was lots of confusion, but did this person get the names of you people conducting the search? Did he ask for ID? What did he say to look for? What was found? How far from the impact site were you guys? Thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-25   19:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: SamDanner, Critter (#34)

I can e-mail to you First class pictures of the petagon Plane wreckage and then I want you to write me a Comentary on those Many tiny Pieces and that Broken Turbine Shaft. I am not making Fun of you son. I just want you to THINK for yourself.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Sam

Hello Sam,

Thanks for sharing your experience.

If you have the time to email the photos to honway419@yahoo.com, I would be glad to post the images on this forum so everyone here can see them. I think it is safe to say we all would like to see them. You have found a forum where the participants are genuinely interested in the truth and appreciate firsthand accounts above government press releases.

honway  posted on  2006-08-25   19:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: SamDanner (#0)

shit, a plane obviously didn't hit the pentagon.

what happened when the damn planes hit the wtc?

big ass fireball and lots a shit flying everywhere.

what happened in every plane crash every place in history?

lotsa shit on the ground and signs of burning.

none of that at the pentagon.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-08-25   19:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#41)

Usually someone will come out with something contrary to the mainstream, and then a friend or family member will discredit them.

It reminds me a little about the time the manager of the Comfort Inn in Portland where Mohamed Atta reportedly spent his last night started posting on Freerepublic. This woman had a story she needed to tell and many decided to be confrontational. She stated in a news interview she had a photocopy of the receipt for the motel room. Had she been treated with empathy and respect it is possible an image of that receipt would be available to everyone on the internet now.She also reported she handed over to the FBI the security camera video recording the hijackers checking in. The public has never seen that video footage.

The most significant information she shared on FR was that the FBI directed her to be tested for anthrax long before the first case of anthrax was reported,.i.e on or about 9/11/01.

honway  posted on  2006-08-25   19:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: SamDanner (#39)

Sam: Thanks for your kind reply. I have unintentionally found myself on that same detour myself. It's very tricky and the entire system makes it hard to describe an event like this with reference to landscape and landmarks, but I think I am getting a picture of what you are saying.

I remember driving around DC looking up at aircraft and thinking: "Oh my God, one of these days." It's hard to believe that it's been five years and that we are just beginning to piece this all together.

Many thanks to you and all those who have courageously helped put together so many pieces of the puzzle. I hope that you remain well.

randge  posted on  2006-08-25   20:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jethro Tull (#42)

Thanks Sam. I'm sure there was lots of confusion, but did this person get the names of you people conducting the search? Did he ask for ID? What did he say to look for? What was found? How far from the impact site were you guys? Thanks

Jethro : The reason there was so much Confusion is that People or at least most of the regular Pentagon Employes did not know about Flight77. So they Had no Idea as to what Hit them. My wife work for a Large news Paer back then and Cell phone me to tell me that a Boeing 757-300 was Headed to Washington DC. BUT LISTEN TO THIS. ALL OF THE COAT AND TIE LEADERSHIP KNEW WHAT WAS COMING AND HOW DID THEY KNOW THAT????? Now for your answer. This Mr. Erstine or Ecstein did not Question me at all because I was fully Dressed in My Paramedic cloths.all of the Uniform told him as to who I was and I even had a Name tag on. A one Mr. Russell Pickering of http://www.pentagonresearch.com will post here at this site and I am waiting for Him. He claims from other Talk shows that I had a Fake EMT unifornm on. THIS IS A LIE. He will try to discredit me. He is very Jealous of Pentagon Turf. What was Foung. Fiber Carbon wreckage that is high tech state of the art Composites for building the lastest state of the art aircraft. I found Shredded aluminun of non-American Airline paint scheme. And 1 smashed Jet engine that could have been a apu. More aon that later. I stodd 20 feet from the impact site after the building just strangely fell in on itself. It was done on Comand like the WTC Towers. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   21:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: All of this wonderful Board (#47)

I want you all and the webmaster to know that this is the Most Balanced website that I have ever been at. Your E-MAILS are kind and alot of you appear to understand what I am really going through. I am sorry for the poor spelling. There is no spell check on here and I type to each person who writes. As a result of My coming forward with this and then Recanting to try to save My marriage I have failed as a Husband as My wife is leaving me. I said that I lied because A. It tore My Family apart. The secret service did a pitt Maneuver on My 1995 Saturn and off the interstate I went and strange Calls in the night and I could say more. And of course I have Lynphoma (Cancer). I want to know the truth Ladies and Gentleman. That Is all I ask and I thank you all for being here for me. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   22:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: All (#48)

Oh By the way: I will extend interviews but only if I have other Truth seekers with me for witnesses. This includes Television interviews with any of you on the set. I mean this. I will not let any body trip me up. So all http://Freedom4um.com Friends are welcome. Good night all . Samuel D. Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   22:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: SamDanner (#48)

I want to know the truth

as do we, Sam. thank you for the kind words about us and this forum. may i ask how it is you found Freedom4um?

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-25   22:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: SamDanner (#47)

On 9-11, I was on I-95 returning from FL. I was in NC heading into VA when the Pentagon happened, I can't recall any mention of a plane coming into DC - I was glued to the radio like the rest of the riding public. When the Pentagon was struck, I-95 was closed ASAP and I was detoured West into VA. It took me 12 hours to get into PA. How (and where) did you park your car? Did you get any of the names of your fellow searchers? IIRC, I-95 was closed until 9-12. How did you get back home? BTW, how did you manage to come across this forum? Thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-25   22:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#50)

may i ask how it is you found Freedom4um?

Dear Christine; I am NOT a vain or fame attention seeking man. I have raised My Family well. I have ALWAYS loved the United States Of America. Always Christine. My own son said on a Radio interview that I wanted attention. Well everyone is Human and we all like a Little stroking sometime. But Christine look at all of this attention I have. If this is Fame and attention seeking then I need to be in a Mental Instution. My whole life is destroy because I had to do the right thing. Well I said all of that to say this to you young Lady. I have 37 References on Google alone under 2 search Words. And they are Sam Danner. I could just die. Well I could not trust alot of forums because a every webmaster has a Agenda. Alex Jones, Christopher Bollyn, Dylan Avery, Eric Hufschmid and the list goes on and on. But I came across this web site and saw that the format was very different and the software was excellent. I read many of the posts and much to My sirprize I did not find people Flaming one another and everyone has been so objective for the truth. I do not live and die and say that I saw a Global Hawk hit the Pentatgon. I could be wrong Christine about that 400 knotts that the thing was flying at. so I decided to write a good TRUTHFUL and HONEST post and just let it go. I never thought that it would be a big deal! So I found this site by Chance and here we are. What is the big deal about My Name anyway,LOL. Now I am on the East coast and it is almost 11:30PM. Thankyou for the question. Sam Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   23:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#51)

To: SamDanner On 9-11, I was on I-95 returning from FL. I was in NC heading into VA when the Pentagon happened, I can't recall any mention of a plane coming into DC - I was glued to the radio like the rest of the riding public. When the Pentagon was struck, I-95 was closed ASAP and I was detoured West into VA. It took me 12 hours to get into PA. How (and where) did you park your car? Did you get any of the names of your fellow searchers? IIRC, I-95 was closed until 9-12. How did you get back home? BTW, how did you manage to come across this forum? Thank

I just answered the How did I find this forum to Christine so you can read that. And yes you have Hit the Magic words. I made and exchanged between about 10 people. Some were like you and me and I found a smoking Gun from the Pentagon Employees Themselves. I just had a meeting with them tonight in Washington DC. You will be shocked My Friends. I can say no more for now. Sam PS. I park right on the road and My ID got me out of there.

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-25   23:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: SamDanner (#52)

You are welcomed here, Sam. Rest well.

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-25   23:50:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: SamDanner (#47)

I found Shredded [sic] aluminun of non-American Airline paint scheme.

Cool. Did you also find Barbara Olson's cell phone?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-25   23:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: SamDanner, Christine, Neil McIver, Aristeides, Honway, all (#12)

Welcome aboard!

Please offer an opinion on my web site -

http://home.comcast.net/~skyd rifter/exp.htm


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-08-26   0:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: honway (#45)

I remember that. I also remember something about the woman disappearing too.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-08-26   2:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Kamala (#22)

Kamala, you might want to stay off of the Loose Change forums. You will get a ton of dis-info on them.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   2:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: christine (#54)

You are welcomed here, Sam. Rest well.

Christine I live in fear 24/7. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-26   4:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: RickyJ (#58)

Yeah ok Ricky. How about this instead, you might want to stay away from reading the LF forums,

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-26   5:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#41)

People have become subjective and lost their objectivity.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-26   5:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: SamDanner (#0)

Sam, if you're telling the truth about witnessing the impact of something other than a commercial Jet I am grateful for your testimony.

I personally think that Eric Hufschmid is a trouble making little punk. The debate that took place on yesterdays Michael Collins Piper program demonstrated that Hufschmid has an immature attitude and thinks this is all a game. He went so far as to say everyone in the 9-11 truth movement needs to be investigated.

In my humble opinion, Hufschmid and Daryl Smith, are both agents provocateur. Daryl Smith merely regurgitates (Jew) info gleaned from others work product, and as recently as 2 years ago was calling anyone opposed to the disproportionate amount of Jew influence in the U.S. Government an "anti- semite" and "bigot". Hiding out in France, he should simply shut the fuck up.

Daryl's own brother contacted Michael Collins Piper on the air and said "he wasn't surprised at all by what Daryl was doing" ... implying that Daryl is a problem child and always has been.

I think Hufschmid used you Sam, as well as Chris Bollyn to support his Global Hawk theory. That wouldn't be terrible except that he went out of his way to bad mouth others that simply search for and publish their findings regarding the truth and lies of that day.

"bene orasse est bene studuisse"

to have studied well is to have prayed well

noone222  posted on  2006-08-26   7:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: noone222 (#62)

In my humble opinion, Hufschmid and Daryl Smith, are both agents provocateur.

Anyone who sides with these two, has zero credibility. Period.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-08-26   7:52:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Kamala (#60)

Yeah ok Ricky. How about this instead, you might want to stay away from reading the LF forums,

Mark

You could learn a heck of a lot there. Dis-info is certainly there but at least they are for the most part not blind to Israel's roll in 9/11 like the "Loose Change" promoters are.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   9:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: all (#58)

I think we might be well served to take a step back and take a deep breath before we accuse anyone of dis-info. It will all rise to the surface in time.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-26   9:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: SamDanner (#53)

What's the deal with the weird capitalization scheme you use?

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-26   10:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Arete (#66)

What's the deal with the weird capitalization scheme you use?

Hey, he's dying of cancer, with all the drugs he is taking it's amazing he can type at all or think somewhat clearly.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   10:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: RickyJ (#67)

Hey, he's dying of cancer, with all the drugs he is taking it's amazing he can type at all or think somewhat clearly

Oh, I see. I didn't realize that cancer and drugs would lead to excessive but selective use of the shift key. You learn something everyday.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-26   14:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Arete (#68)

Oh, I see. I didn't realize that cancer and drugs would lead to excessive but selective use of the shift key. You learn something everyday.

Richard W.

I am not saying that they do, or that he is who he says he is, or that he is telling us the truth. But until I have proof he's not telling the truth I don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   17:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: RickyJ (#69)

I am not saying that they do, or that he is who he says he is, or that he is telling us the truth. But until I have proof he's not telling the truth I don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt.

I had a feeling when I asked the question that it would be taken the wrong way. I really (honest) wanted to know about the capitalization scheme he uses. Nothing more than idle curiosity. I did figure though, that it wouldn't be long before someone decides to line up all the caps, strike every second or third letter and come up with a secret message. LOL

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-26   18:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Arete (#70)

I really (honest) wanted to know about the capitalization scheme he uses. Nothing more than idle curiosity. I did figure though, that it wouldn't be long before someone decides to line up all the caps, strike every second or third letter and come up with a secret message. LOL

Hey, that might be the case. I'm not really worried about it, the truth of 9/11 IMO was meant to be known to a certain extent. It's unfortunately all part of the plan.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   18:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: RickyJ (#71)

the truth of 9/11 IMO was meant to be known to a certain extent. It's unfortunately all part of the plan.

that is the way I think it is too.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-26   18:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: RickyJ This is to the whole board (#71)

I really (honest) wanted to know about the capitalization scheme he uses. Nothing more than idle curiosity. I did figure though, that it wouldn't be long before someone decides to line up all the caps, strike every second or third letter and come up with a secret message. LOL

I use Capitals to accent certain thoughts in a Sentence. I am very upset and Hurt that anybody in there right mind would say tings about Chemotherpy and Drugs and How Terminal Cancer would affect My writting skills. I have Lymphoma type B Blod Cncer. Do you all think that is Funny? I get Hassled by federal agents my family is destroyed over the 9-11 issue and i come forward to tell all and have to be made fun of Capitals in E-mails and told he does that because He being me Has Cancer. Christine Help. SamDanner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-26   19:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: SamDanner (#73)

Hang in here with us, Sam.

Most of us here have degrees behind our names (mainly worthless) that required us to learn how to spell, capitalize, and use correct grammar. That said, this in no way diminishes your message, or how it is presented to us.

For your cancer, have you checked out http://www.coljoe.com for his cancer information? I am currently using his protocol for our family.

Please keep us posted, thanks.

Lod  posted on  2006-08-26   20:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: SamDanner (#73)

Sometimes people don't always read the whole thread before posting. I always regret doing that. Please don't take offense at one poster's careless and unintentionally insensitive remarks.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-26   20:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: SamDanner (#0)

does everyone here know that the owners of Clown Posse are Ken Giles and Cindy Griffin? It's true!

joe batters  posted on  2006-08-26   20:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: joe batters (#76)

Let's see if that works (wink)

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-26   20:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: robin (#77)

if you keep posting their info on this thread, maybe they will delete their thread. It worked this morning. Thanks Ken Giles and Cindy Griffin!

joe batters  posted on  2006-08-26   20:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Ken Giles, Cindy Griffin, owners of Clown Posse (#78)

hi guys!

joe batters  posted on  2006-08-26   21:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: SamDanner (#73) (Edited)

I use Capitals to accent certain thoughts in a Sentence. I am very upset and Hurt that anybody in there right mind would say tings about Chemotherpy and Drugs and How Terminal Cancer would affect My writting skills. I have Lymphoma type B Blod Cncer. Do you all think that is Funny? I get Hassled by federal agents my family is destroyed over the 9-11 issue and i come forward to tell all and have to be made fun of Capitals in E-mails and told he does that because He being me Has Cancer. Christine Help. SamDanner

I like to do deal with facts Sam. Drugs, even cancer drugs, do have side effects that can have an effect on the brain. I am sorry if me stating that offends you, I certainly didn't mean it that way. I am obviously not the only one noting that your writing style is a bit unorthodox.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-08-26   21:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: SamDanner (#73)

I use Capitals to accent certain thoughts in a Sentence

Question Answered. THANKS

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-08-27   11:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: robin (#75)

Sometimes people don't always read the whole thread before posting. I always regret doing that. Please don't take offense at one poster's careless and unintentionally insensitive remarks.

Robin: I have a Degree in Theology. I type the way I do because I am me. You were the only kind person that showed any respect for me. Thankyou. Lets get back to 9-11. I wanted to cut and Paste that saying that you always use. Where do you think that this whole thing is headed? Dylan Avery and Film crew were down here (Pentagon) the saturday before yesterday. But I will tell you something. I grew up under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). The Cuban Missle Crisis was ticking away and We were ready to launch on Russia. At that time Russia only had 21 ICBM,s. Now we have thousands all over the world. We do not need Iran to make one. Cash Strapped Russia will look the other way. Now as a Child I was in terror over One nation and a Nuclear Holocast. We will have another 9-11 Robin and I do not intentionally mean to scare everyone because lets face it we are already scared. Look at our Famous FEMA. Mississippi is a 3rd world country now. The American Goverment appears to care but it is Politics as ever before while people sill are waiting for insurance Checks. If just one Nuclear Weapon goes off in a Major City our Infrasture will just collapse. Now what do you think Robin? Bro. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-27   14:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: SamDanner (#82)

A degree in Theology, how interesting. We have religious discussions here too; lots of varying opinions.

Your early life's perspectives would be appreciated, as some believe we are turning into the USSR. That the parasite Bolsheviks have found a new host.

I'm not an expert on 9/11, in fact, I was slow to realize that the govt explanation was all lies.

Like von Bulow, I don't know what really happened (he said it's not his duty), but what the govt says happened is laughable.

Basically, all we can do is make good guesses at what really happened. These guesses are to some extent unnecessary, in my opinion. We need to try to catch up with what they might do next. I think that's more important to identify. They would love to see us stew in the past, while they move forward, herding and ensnaring us.

As you have suggested, we on this forum also believe there will probably be another 9/11.

Your mention of Katrina and FEMA is timely, I'm watching CSPAN cover a book called "The Storm" by Ivor van Heerden. He was an educator at Louisiana State University who is relating some horrific info. He and his "team" tried to discover what went wrong with the levees, but were blocked by our govt, pretty much every step of the way. CDC (Center for Disease Control) did listen to him, but they were the only ones.

There is a hurricane headed towards New Orleans even now.

The displacement of so many Americans was a nice trial run. The govt must be pleased with how much they got away with.

Of course, moving a lot of very poor, easily unaccounted for families, is different, I think, than displacing tens of thousands of middle-class.

My cousin's daughter, an envirnomentalist was in New Orleans and barely made it out in their little SUV and 2 big dogs. She and her husband lost everything they owned, but they are well-off, with very well-off families. They will be fine. Their lives will continue.

The poor who were shoved around like so much cattle, are not doing so well.

Meanwhile, developers have new plans for New Orleans. One w/o a lot of poor Blacks. More like a Disneyland New Orleans. Sickening.

FEMA certainly needed the practice. I stumbled on this article last night.

Rex 84: FEMA's Blueprint for Martial Law in America

We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.

The Cheney/Bush administration has a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency.

The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state.

The Rex 84 Program was originally established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA.

Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987

" These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached."

And there you have it ~ the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to be its principal vehicle for martial law.

This is why FEMA could not respond immediately to the Hurricane Katrina disaster ~ humanitarian efforts were no longer part of its job description under the Department of Homeland Security.

It appears Hurricane Katrina also provided FEMA with an excuse to “dry run” its unconstitutional powers in New Orleans, rounding up “refugees” (now called “evacuees”) and “relocating” them in various camps. “Some evacuees are being treated as ‘internees’ by FEMA,” writes former NSA employee Wayne Madsen.

Reports continue to come into WMR that evacuees from New Orleans and Acadiana [the traditional twenty-two parish Cajun homeland] who have been scattered across the United States are being treated as ‘internees’ and not dislocated American citizens from a catastrophe"

We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84.

Be forewarned ~ the Cheney/Bush administration will stop at nothing to preserve their power and their ongoing neocon mis-adventure and they have currently proposed having executive control over all the states National Guard troops in a national emergency.

Governor Tom Vilsack of Iowa, called the proposal " one step away from a complete takeover of the National Guard, the end of the Guard as a dual-function force that can respond to both state and national needs."

The provision was tucked into the House version of the defense bill without notice to the states, something Vilsack said he resented as much as the proposal itself.

Under the provision, the president would have authority to take control of the Guard in case of " a serious natural or manmade disaster, accident or catastrophe" in the United States.

Do remember, to the Cheney/Bush administration ~ the Mob at the Gates that they truly fear is not terrorists but, instead, the people demanding the truth.


REX 84 AND FEMA

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

MINDFULLY, 2004 - There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. . . The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA.

Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government.

FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners.

Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold thousands of people.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-27   14:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: robin (#83)

REX 84 AND FEMA

Robin , What a precise answer to My post. You are %100 right in every cut and Paste and everything that you wrote young Lady. My son Matthew warned me about FEMA Protocals a couple of years ago. Concentration Camps! But after 9-11 and then after Katrina I began to see a Pattern of Goverment leadership that was like Moe larry and CurryJoe. I can still see Shepard Smith of Fox Cable News Network crying on a bridge in New Orlens there for the nation to see. Rivera also of Fox resorted to swearing at the lack of any help or support or anyone to Help. President Bush Said for all to hear Damn Good Job Browny! Damn good for what? But this pattern sticks out like the goverment wants distruction and reacts in different ways to Gage public responce. Bush could care less about BinLaden. They are not looking for him. I can not believe in 6 years how this world has changed. I can still see Bush at the WTC site with his arm around that fireman and we were in awe. Bush had his script all layed out. At that time Robin I believed still in America even though the pentagon Changed my mind,but now I do not believe in this Country as I once did. I do not know what else to say as I have to cook dinner now. Keep up the good research Robin, we will be in the same FEMA cell together. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-27   17:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: SamDanner (#84)

I can not believe in 6 years how this world has changed. I can still see Bush at the WTC site with his arm around that fireman and we were in awe. Bush had his script all layed out.

They had us all fooled for a short time.

"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." -- Abraham Lincoln

A poster here, aristeides, says it is better to be part of the oppressed than the oppressors. A purist attitude, but I must admit that he's right.

However, I like to think that the oppressed have options.

Have you seen the movie "'V' for Vendetta"?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-27   18:01:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: robin (#85)

They had us all fooled for a short time.

Robin Check your mail. I remember in 1968 a close encounter with a Reichstag style issue. Robin I think about that all of the time. In 1968 Martin Luther King was Killed. The country went Berserk! My father worked in Washington DC at the Federal post office. He was Trapped there for a whole week. Poor Minorities Burned the city of Washington DC for as much to show there rage but as I grew older I compare that to a Reichstag type deal in a vague sense. There was Martial law and My Father who is now deceased I Heard say to my mother that to live in the city at that time one should have been paid combat pay. In a Present day Reichstag senerio We are short of Natioal Guard troops big time. You will have alot of Wacos and Ruby ridges but all out Fema Camps the goverment is not prepared for. Civil war and Chaos would be the imediate thing. This is My opinion only. Well it is time for sleep. I get up in the Middle of the night. Cheers Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-27   19:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: SamDanner (#86)

I forgot about the 60s, but then it only affected a minority of the population. It will be interesting to see what happens. I actually expect a lot of law and order, injustice of course, but order.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-27   19:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Robin and Christine (#87)

To: SamDanner I forgot about the 60s, but then it only affected a minority of the population. It will be interesting to see what happens. I actually expect a lot of law and order, injustice of course, but order.

Robin: I can not sleep. The 1960,s changed the way we live today. We had Free Love and nobody marries today. We had Hanoi Jane Fonda sitting on a North Vietnamise anti aircraft gun. That was nice. We have Legal abortion now because of Gloria Steim and Row VS Wade. We were the 1st on the Moon in 1969. We had Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Gerald Ford. Boy they ran a real good war for the good old usa and America was spelled Amerika. Revolution was a common word. The Beatles ruled the Music world as none other and can not be matched today. We had Ban the Bra Movement in our Hippie world. It was a new age that was expected to come and what happened? We were sent home from Vietnam and spit on at airports and called Baby Killers and on and on. The movie Rambo Frist Blood came out and that is exactly the way I feel today. No My friends it did not affect a minority of the population. It affected the whole United States. And the United States affected the whole world. This Country was a Leader. Guess What nation in 1960 produced the most oil. Yep, Good old United States of America. Those were days that set the decay that has everyone wondering what is going on. I loved John Lenon,s world .He wrote Imagine. Think about this. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   0:11:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: SamDanner (#88)

We were the 1st on the Moon in 1969.

were we, Sam? ;)

watch this when you can't sleep--->A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-28   0:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: lodwick (#74)

For your cancer, have you checked out http://www.coljoe.com for his cancer information? I am currently using his protocol for our family.

To Lodwick: Thankyou for your Cancer site that you sent me to. It is different. I am not a big fan to Chemotherapy. Having Lymphoma is no fun. I have a full time Job for a Large company and I work a full day everyday. But after I get My car paid off I am declaring Bankrupcy. Cancer and 9/11 have taken me out. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   0:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: christine (#89)

--->A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon

Christine; I know ALOT of webmasters that swear we were never there. I have never really researched the Issue. Give me your best info. Thanks Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   0:24:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: SamDanner (#88)

It affected the whole United States.

I agree Sam, I was just referring back to your post about Martial Law in DC.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-28   0:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: SamDanner (#91)

evenin' sam, start with the two articles i posted here--->http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=31636 and then watch that video. let me know what you think.

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-28   0:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: IndieTX (#4)

To: SamDanner

And you have the FREEDOM to think. Nobody can take that away. Welcome Sam. You're in friendly territory!

Am I in Friendly turf? No Shills here I hope. Good night for sure Sam Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   0:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#93)

evenin' sam, start with the two articles i posted here--->http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=31636

Christine: I am going to get on this one Thankyou for the site.<3Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   0:53:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: SamDanner (#95)

at your liesure (i found it fascinating). goodnight, sam.

"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!

christine  posted on  2006-08-28   0:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Christine and Robin and anybody else. (#96)

To: SamDanner at your liesure (i found it fascinating). goodnight, sam.

Robin : I hope that you dreamed of what it may hhhave been at WoodStock New York with me and you watching Jimmy Hendricks and getting soaking wet! And Christine shame on you. I got 2 hours Sleep. I did not go to the moon either. Starting today I need to get back to 9/11 and flight 77. Okay Chicks? Sam Danner~~~~~~~~~~~~Hagerstown Maryland

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   5:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: SamDanner (#97)

http://us.geocities.yahoo.com/gb/view?member=sandrabullockcentral&.start=16

meatloaf  posted on  2006-08-28   11:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: SamDanner (#97)

My eldest sister was at the San Fran march in '68 and I helped her pinstripe her green VW bug. I marched wearing moccasins in a "Candlestick March for Peace" about the same time.

I missed Jimi, but does that count?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-28   11:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: robin (#99)

VW bugs and moccasins, circa '68

Yep, I was there. My first bug was a '67, I paid $1800 (cash) for it. By '69 it was unrecognizable, so I bought another new one. Some price, IIRC, except that one had an FM radio which was alternate radio back then. Fun days...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-28   11:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Jethro Tull (#100)

My sister's was a '67, she bought in the Valley (San Fernando). It had a wiring problem, the heater and turn signaler and something else were confused.

VWs were very fashionable then, like SUVs today.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-28   11:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: robin (#101)

It had a wiring problem, the heater and turn signaler and something else were confused.

All the bugs back then were confused - but they were fun rides.

Lod  posted on  2006-08-28   14:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: meatloaf (#98)

Sandra Bullock

Meatloaf you got My Attention with Sandra Bullock. I met her in the late Nineties and How Iwas blessed. I will go to your website. Sam Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   18:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: robin (#99)

y eldest sister was at the San Fran march in '68 and I helped her pinstripe her green VW bug. I marched wearing moccasins in a "Candlestick March for Peace" about the same time.

I missed Jimi, but does that count

Robin ; that does indeed Count and Jethro tull with AuqaLung who can forget. We are all part of the sisterhood and Brotherhood at this 9/11 Forum. Now My next post pay close attention. Sam Danner

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   18:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: All (#104)

To all of My Friends who have adopted me into this forum. Some of you I promised high class Pic,s of the Pentagon right after the issue. I am still working on a web page and you can down load all you want.

Now Listen Up Gang. Back to earth. Christine you silly MoonBeam! We are going to study this week : Flight 77 What Happened to the Boeing.? I am aware of two objects that the Military believes are the only pieces of the 757- 300 that were recovered from the rubble. Actually, the Military does not even claim the small pieces are part of a 757. Landing gear engines and parts of the bodies of aircraft survived the twin towers. What Happened to the 100 ton Boeing 757-300? Now Forum. This is a Forum. Now it is EVERYBODYS TURN to tell what they think. Okay. I will take notes and give the real deal as we progress. Bro. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   18:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: All and really to Robin who made me think. (#105)

Can Anything Be Done? Can Anything Be Done? Can Anything Be Done? Jesus Said We are like Sheep without a Sheppard.

To Robin who Made me think: Robin sent me to a site on a Thread on this very subject of flight 77. The Can Anything be Done Article took all of My wind awake. That man who wrote that piece did His Homework. What more can I add to what He wrote? It is there for all to see. I saw what Looked to me to be a Cruise missle hit the Building. It looked like a Global Hawk super Drone but I could be wrong. I have over 30 names of People on Route 27 that day. When the feds moved in I acted as an offical Myself just Blending in. I have 3 Pentagon People that will talk before Camera. They are Scared and they trust me. They will appear on this Forum under name 101, 102, 103. No names or Gender will be admitted. Rumsfeld with the slip of the Mouth said it was a Missle. No 757-300 jet can fit in a 9 to 12 foot hole. I saw all of this no matter who writes any different. Do you Remember the plane that just Crashed in Kentucky? 49 people burned up alive. It was not Carbon Monoxcide that killed them. The point being fire always does the Killing unless the aircraft just dives into the ground. I said all of that Gruesome stuff to say there was no JP4 Jet fuel Fire at the Pentagon. I was treated badly by an unknown Agent. I just got the Hell out of Dodge. Some unknown man to me a Mr. Harper called today asking questions abput what I said. He has written a 9/11 book of which I do not own. I would have to wake My wife to find it. And yes as I said the Marriage is over as soon as I move out. 9/11 and Cancer put the end to that and tonight was very unpleasant eveing. I do not know what else to say My friends. There is a Documentary film on Flight 77 that will go into production on site in Washington DC Contact robin about this . I am really down and Depressed over all of this. I have have Panic attacks etc. I help that I have been a help to someone here. Anybody with Loved ones on Flight 77 I would in deep respect like to speak with you. If I have offened anyone please accept My forgiveness. Kids what more can be said? Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-28   23:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: SamDanner (#103)

Meatloaf you got My Attention with Sandra Bullock. I met her in the late Nineties and How Iwas blessed. I will go to your website. Sam Danner

where did you meet her?

meatloaf  posted on  2006-08-29   3:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: meatloaf (#107)

Meatloaf you got My Attention with Sandra Bullock. I met her in the late Nineties and How Iwas blessed. I will go to your website. Sam Danner

With Gwenyth Paltrow My cosin on Febuary 15th to march 1st 1998. I got to go to work. Now Bye. Sam

SamDanner  posted on  2006-08-29   6:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: SamDanner (#15)

To: christine

arrow points to a mysterious agent with a name like "Erkstein" who was directing the destruction of evidence. As is typical, the FBI and other agencies were waiting for the event so that they could immediately intimidate witnesses, destroy evidence, and chase away any honest policemen

Hello Forum: I am very proud of Christine for her rapid Transit Response to approve me all over again. Thankyou Christine. All right this is it. I have gone to My oncologist today and after the exam He just looked at me. I wrote a personal e-mail to Christine on Thanks Giving day. I thought to Myself that is it! The real Sam Danner Story is told at My blog at My space. You will know where I Lied and how the story got so blown out of porportion. I am giving names and I am talking with no Lies Embellishments and slander and the media spin docotors too. May the truth be finally known. All yes,one more Issue. Two young people put up this website called the Sam Danner Show. I was called on the phone by a well meaning Family member and more or less there it was. I was never involved with this project and I got off on the wrong foot right away. I am a Proud American and I know that alot of us are not happy with the system,but I am angry with alot of issues with the Goverment and ,well just read the blog. I am not a Zionist,I am Pro-Israel and a Christian. I welcome any e-mail as I am not working and I want to get the real deal out before my time is up. www.myspace.com/nasa53

Sam  posted on  2007-11-23   14:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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