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Title: SOME THINGS ON MY MIND
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Published: Aug 28, 2006
Author: ROWDEE
Post Date: 2006-08-28 18:21:31 by rowdee
Keywords: ELECTIONS, IMMIGRATION, WAR
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Comments: 43
The past few days (actually somewhat longer than that), I've been mulling over the immigration mess and the upcoming elections, along with a few other problem areas in our nation. So, I thought I'd toss out a couple of concerns and see what your opinions are. A. First off, I doubt there is anyone who wants a change in party majorityship/minorityship than I. I want so badly for the gopers to get creamed for the POS job they've been doing after having been given the 'keys to the kingdom'! That said, consider this: The senate is less likely to change hands than the house, IMO. The senate recently passed a frickin amnesty/immigration nightmare of a bill. It is so far out of whack with the house passed version; therefore they have to go to conference. Technically, it is written in their rulebooks that confernce committees can't come up with new crap for the proposed bill, but they do it all the time. So, suppose the house changes over to the demos. What do you suspect will happen? From what I read, the demos are eager for such a bill as the senate passed...they apparently believe all the illegals will 'vote' for them. I guess I'm just still trying to figure out why one of my senators, craig, by name, stupid by characterization, would vote for this damnable bill. And most interestingly a) note that he is near the top ranks of goper leadership in the senate and b) he makes the asinine comment in his email response to my concerns and as a way to 'justify' his voting for it, essentially 'after all, we all know it won't pass as is because of the house version is so different'. B. Secondly--I along with many others dont' believe voting is anything beyond window dressing. And with that said, I'd like to ask: "So, if voting were in fact a real selection process and meaningful, how would you go about voting in the fall?" We have the war hawks.......and they're from both parties, so I don't see any changes there. We have the illegal alien lovers....and they're from both parties, though they are lying thru their teeth in backpedaling, etc. What third party candidate have the changes of making inroads==this, of course, predicated on their ability to jump thru all the hoops the two-headed monster party set up in election laws and regs? Face it, Ron Paul is just about the lone voice calling for sanity of 535 congresscowards. What would even a dozen third party candidates do for the process? I guarantee they would be given shit committee assignments. C. Thirdly--suppose there is a major shakeup come November, what do you believe the lame duck gopers would do? I would see them changing senate rules to where they kill the cloture vote rule, and then approve any and ever single appointment the liar in chief has put forth. I see them putting up the senate's version of the illegal alien/amnesty bill and passing it, so the liar in chief can sign it into law. I see a real probability of an attack on Iran, and the 'need' for the draft reinstatement.
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#3. To: lodwick (#1)
Take all the time ya want, loddy.... :)
Your thoughts have crossed my mind, critter....and it seems like more and more often they do so.
It's all about revenge now, rather than policy, because on issues like illegal immigration and globalization, both parties do the bidding of their corporate masters. As for the danger of a lame-duck congress, it was a lame-duck congress that passed WTO in 1994, with a lot of "yes" votes from defeated congressmen.
I left out the happy ending for obvious reasons. hehehe
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
With major league help from that bastard gingrich.......he's the one that spouted off about giving away a good deal of sovereignty, but felt it was worth it!
hehehe back atcha!
I want the assholes in DC to go hog wild and totally destroy the republic and get it over with. I want full blown tyranny and I want it now. That's their intention and there is no way to stop it, so lets get it over with. I agree -- nothing changes (unless continued degeneration counts as "change") without a general collapse. I don't think a regime is ever overthrown unless a large majority are angry enough to fight, or unless there's a substantial minority who are, and the regime is already weakened by other factors. I often feel really bad about the fact that I'm not putting my butt on the line to try to get rid of the Imperial regime here, but I keep coming back to the same thing: it's hopeless as long as the pee-pul are mesmerized by "Monday Night Football" and "American Idol." Unless most people are already "mad as hell," trying to overthrow DC leads the few overthrow-ers directly to Waco, and nowhere else. Really, about the happiest outcome I could imagine is the "soft collapse" that happens economically. The one thing that just isn't going away, as far as I can tell, is that the Empire is stone-cold broke. Our supervisors are used to buying some, intimidating some, and killing off others -- but it all takes money. Without bales and bales of cash, a Dick(head) Cheney loses his derived dreadfulness and becomes simply irrelevant. And, with the Imperial Seat a deindustrialized basket case, what will our supervisors do for money? Printing it won't help, and borrowing only works until all those Asian bankers decide that it's no longer in their interest to lend to Uncle Murder. No matter which way it goes, it's gonna be a rough ride.
- - - - - - - - - - - Concur. They are going to do us anyway, so why should I enable them with MY vote? I'll sit home and have a drink or two election night...let other delusional voters send the incumbents back to the Washington party circuit. Booze, hookers, drugs, a nation of uninformed sheeple...it's a good time to be in politics.
I think a 'Soft Collapse" sounds better to me than revolution, though I can imagine that, too. But as you say, so long as there is MNF, Oprah, Springer, and various other sundry diversions, the sheeple will remain content to hold out their wrists. I want to see how the sheeple react when the broadcasting sites are taken down with their shows!
Bump.
I agree with you rowdee - completely. My only choice on election day is do I remain sober or not. that is the only choice. seriously, I'll vote third party or write-in a third-party name. but we normally only have the libertarians on the ballot where I live, so that's who I'll vote for. and they'll get 1%, the voting machines won't let em get any more. and whoever is elected the repubs or the dems - they will screw us either way. that's why it might be a good thing to not be sober on that night and listen to whatever drama they have on tv. but my sober advice is - turn off the tv - don't be troubled by all this stuff. find other interestes - and pursue them.
That'll end the wars on the spot. Some unknown kid from some hick town who gets killed, people don't pay any attention. Try to draft their kids, though, and watch the uproar.
"Benjamin Franklin was shown the new American constitution, and he said, 'I don't like it, but I will vote for it because we need something right now. But this constitution in time will fail, as all such efforts do. And it will fail because of the corruption of the people, in a general sense.' And that is what it has come to now, exactly as Franklin predicted." -- Gore Vidal
I hate to be a downer but if change were possible third party candidates would be winning. I love most people despite the fact that I suspect them of being moronic. I'm moronic too!
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
I've always, since my first vote, attempted to study issues and people and vote intelligently--forget whose got the cutest butt in a pair of jean. But I haven't felt good about voting for years and years. This may be the year I finally decided I won't even bother. Not even to consider ballot issues in referendum form.
You know, YT, I don't even know if your theory holds water any more. The world seems so self-absorbed. I can see many envisioning their kid as doing something noble--especially if its hot on the heels of 911 #2.
I don't see you as being one to make this a downer, Dak. I've been paying more and more attention since 1986, when I ran for office........it doesn't get better, just worse.....each and every time. As it regards third parties, I recall listing to cspan not long after moving over here and a committee meeting relative to elections. Had a panel of gopers, and then a panel of demos, and then a panel of 'all others'. The 'all others' were lamenting the hoops and hurdles the gopers and demos had enacted at fed and state levels making it virtually impossible for any sort of 3rd party to make inroads. They invariable spend most of their money on lawyers and trying to get enough signatures to get on the ballot. Don't you just know the hearts of those gopers and demos were just bleeding for these 'all others'! NOT! They're the ones making the friggin rules and regs to preclude others and to assure either head A or head B gets the prize.
:) "Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya' punks? Go ahead..make my day!" Other than waiting for the fall of the empire, the only other thing my twisted mind could think of would involve muckraking on a grand scale. If we could get dirt on every one of the bastards, we might be able to "influence" them in a proper direction. Any volunteers to follow a congresscum for a few weekend evenings? lol
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Me. Thanks. :)
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Dental drilling without a numbing solution sounds better than what you suggest!!!!
Gotta pic?
Maybe we wouldn' even have to get the dirt. Maybe just trying to organize to get the dirt would do the trick? If all the vermin in DC thought that a movement was being born to follow them until we get the dirt on them, unless thingsturn around abruptly, would the threat that they might be outed to their spouses at any time for their particular perversion have any effect? hmmmmmmm.....
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Of my butt? hmmmm, don't know. will have to look. lol
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
My new Congressman is a "rapture monkey", and believes every word of "Left Behind". Relatively harmless, but that is because Washington hasn't had a chance to corrupt him. Yet.
You may be on to something here...could 'CongressCam' become a reality in the near future? Remember those embarrassing pics of Mel Gibson that turned up the net recently? I'd be willing to bet similar pics of politicians, at the state and federal level, would prove to be a hell of a lot funnier...maybe we could recruit those guys that go into Home Depot and film themselves moving in slow motion?
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
I think all we need to do is get 5 or 10 on film leaving their grilfreind's house in DC and we might be able to turn things around. Build a blog site, post pics, ruin a few marriages and careers... Maybe they'll see the light?
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
It would be quite easy to set one of these sleazeballs up using a babe, a tape recorder and a camera. Unfortunately, I have to work for a living to support the IRS and my landlord, otherwise I know just the girl. Moot point.
what's her phone number? I have to put her through the motions to see if she's good enough. ;)
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
Are there any patriotic high priced call girls out there? hehehe I wonder if we would be considered terrorists for conspiring to ruin congressional careers through muckraking?
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
oh, they probably bury them in their basements when they're through with them. didn't condit do that?
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Cindy Caswell at your service. ;)
"Freedom4um" -- The Forum for Real Americans and where America and Americans are always First!
This is a super, terrific, fabulous idea!
I just tie mine up and save them for later. :p
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
I've been in the same boat. and I think we feel discouraged from voting by design. in 1988 george hw bush told very prominent lies during the campaign (read my lips). in 1992 bill clinton told very prominent lies when he turned to bush in a big debate and ridiculed him for being in bed with the chinese, and then clinton went and got in bed with chinese. and in 2000 I remember in the debates gw bush saying strongly he believed in school choice, but then he doubled funding on dept of education and further strengthened the federal bureaucracy's hold on education, he also said his #1 priority in foreign policy would be to be humble - but he has been the opposite. I think it is by design - to discourage us. I think I'm also like you though I'd like to see the republicans beat bad this year. I just don't see any good coming from the demos though. I'll go vote this time so I can vote for a dem senate candidate who wants to cut payroll taxes by 25%. that is worth voting for, but the guy is probably pro-war. If he's pro-war I won't vote for him.
I guess I'm just still trying to figure out why one of my senators, craig, by name, stupid by characterization, would vote for this damnable bill. Answer here. Secondly--I along with many others dont' believe voting is anything beyond window dressing. In a highly heterogenous society it is possible for every measure to be passed by majority vote, and yet for everyone to find themselves in the minority on a majority of issues. This makes certain techniques of tyranny possible. "Will of the People" presupposes that there is in fact a people, with a common language, religion, culture, and race. It is an oxymoron in a multiracial/multiethnic empire, which is what the United States has become. "So, if voting were in fact a real selection process and meaningful, how would you go about voting in the fall?" For the whitest guy available, paying attention to surnames. What third party candidate have the changes of making inroads==this, of course, predicated on their ability to jump thru all the hoops the two-headed monster party set up in election laws and regs? Nick Griffin, British National Party. C. Thirdly--suppose there is a major shakeup come November, what do you believe the lame duck gopers would do? Enjoy a junket in the Carribean with Ted Kennedy. Enjoy their pensions. Perhaps get a cushy job in consulting or academia. I see a real probability of an attack on Iran, and the 'need' for the draft reinstatement. They might try a draft, but it would be disastrous. It is precisely the small (relatively) self-selected nature of it that makes the military easy to use.
Nuttin wrong with that butt! Nor the jeans........at least you look comfortable in jeans..........these yahoo political bastards that try to be 'one of us' make me want to urp!
Thank you ma'am. :)
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
All that vacation stuff sounds nice.........but I rather expect that after they do whatever damage they can, the majority will go into lobbying. That way they don't have to come back to face the people....and there are cushy jobs with lots of $$$$ as payoff for voting the 'right' way.
Lobbyists are also vulnerable to "the plan". hehehe
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
#4. To: Critter (#2)
#5. To: rowdee (#0)
I want so badly for the gopers to get creamed for the POS job they've been doing
I've already said too much.
#6. To: rowdee (#4)
Your thoughts have crossed my mind, critter....and it seems like more and more often they do so.
#7. To: MUDDOG (#5)
As for the danger of a lame-duck congress, it was a lame-duck congress that passed WTO in 1994, with a lot of "yes" votes from defeated congressmen.
#8. To: Critter (#6)
hehehe
#9. To: Critter (#2)
I think, screw it, let it happen, as fast as possible.
Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. -- H. L. Mencken
#10. To: Critter (#2)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#11. To: Enderby (#9)
I could imagine is the "soft collapse" that happens economically. The one thing that just isn't going away, as far as I can tell, is that the Empire is stone-cold broke. Our supervisors are used to buying some, intimidating some, and killing off others -- but it all takes money.
#12. To: who knows what evil (#10)
Booze, hookers, drugs, a nation of uninformed sheeple...it's a good time to be in politics.
#13. To: rowdee (#0)
#14. To: rowdee (#0)
the 'need' for the draft reinstatement.
#15. To: rowdee (#0)
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#16. To: Red Jones (#13)
#17. To: YertleTurtle (#14)
Try to draft their kids, though, and watch the uproar.
#18. To: Dakmar (#15)
#19. To: Critter (#2)
I want the assholes in DC to go hog wild and totally destroy the republic and get it over with. I want full blown tyranny and I want it now. That's their intention and there is no way to stop it, so lets get it over with.
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford
#20. To: rowdee, IndieTX, who knows what evil, Enderby, all (#0)
#21. To: rowdee (#16)
forget whose got the cutest butt in a pair of jean.
#22. To: IndieTX (#19)
#23. To: Critter (#20)
Any volunteers to follow a congresscum for a few weekend evenings? lol
#24. To: Critter (#21)
#25. To: rowdee (#23)
Dental drilling without a numbing solution sounds better than what you suggest!!!!
#26. To: rowdee (#24)
Gotta pic?
#27. To: Critter (#20)
Any volunteers to follow a congresscum for a few weekend evenings? lol
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#28. To: Critter (#25)
If all the vermin in DC thought that a movement was being born to follow them until we get the dirt on them, unless thingsturn around abruptly, would the threat that they might be outed to their spouses at any time for their particular perversion have any effect? hmmmmmmm.....
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#29. To: rowdee (#24)
Me and the kid, giving bass hell. hehehe
#30. To: who knows what evil (#28)
#31. To: Critter (#30)
"Prohibition...goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford
#32. To: IndieTX (#31)
otherwise I know just the girl.
#33. To: IndieTX (#31)
It would be quite easy to set one of these sleazeballs up using a babe,
#34. To: Critter (#30)
#35. To: Critter, IndieTx (#33)
#36. To: Critter (#30)
#37. To: christine (#34)
oh, they probably bury them in their basements when they're through with them.
#38. To: rowdee (#16)
I haven't felt good about voting for years and years.
#39. To: rowdee (#0)
And slowly, slowly he walked back into town, saying "Caps! Caps for sale! 50 cents a cap!"
#40. To: Critter (#29)
#41. To: rowdee (#40)
Nuttin wrong with that butt!
#42. To: Tauzero (#39)
#43. To: rowdee (#42)
the majority will go into lobbying.
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