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Title: Bigotry and Ignorance of Islam
Source: Antiwar.com
URL Source: http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=9608
Published: Aug 29, 2006
Author: Charley Reese
Post Date: 2006-08-29 04:17:53 by Zoroaster
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Comments: 70

August 29, 2006 Bigotry and Ignorance of Islam

by Charley Reese President George Bush's ignorance of the Middle East and its people is well-known. So also is his habit of parroting words and sentences given to him by other people. He hit a new low when he referred to "Islamic fascists."

No two more opposite concepts are to be found. Fascism glorifies the nation-state; Islam is transnational. Fascism demands slavish devotion to a national leader; Muslims are far too independent-minded to be slavish followers of anybody. Virtually all the people Saddam Hussein murdered were people trying to overthrow him. Fascism is militaristic. Islam is not.

Mr. Bush, who has dubbed himself the "war president," has made a pathetic and absurd effort to picture himself as Winston Churchill facing off against evil. He is no Churchill. Most of the enemies he imagines, he has created himself.

The West faces no threat from Islam. Islam is one of the fastest-growing religions in the world, but it really is a religion of peace. More importantly, it is a religion that concentrates on individual salvation. There is no Muslim pope, no College of Cardinals, no bishops, no priesthood. Any five Muslims anywhere in the world can start their own mosque. Imams are teachers and, like Protestant preachers or Jewish rabbis, can be fired by their congregation. The Shi'ite version is slightly more organized.

A fatwa is a statement issued by an imam, usually explanatory. It is similar to statements issued by the pope, with this important difference: No Muslim is bound by any fatwa. Muslims are free to pay attention to it or to ignore it.

Islam, like Christianity, is a universal religion that ignores nationality, race or color. To become a Muslim, one must profess belief in one God, acknowledge Muhammad as his prophet, recognize the Quran as the word of God, pray five times a day, provide for the poor and, if possible, make a trip to Mecca once in your lifetime. The God Muslims worship is the same God Christians and Jews worship.

To dispose of some of the slanderous misstatements being floated about, Islam forbids forced conversions. People would do well to read some history rather than rely on ignorant and malicious radio and TV talk-show hosts. The oldest Christian communities in the world are all in Muslim countries. There have always been Christian and Jewish communities in the Muslim world. Muslims are commanded to treat Christians and Jews as they would treat themselves. They revere Jesus as a prophet and highly respect the Virgin Mary. The disputes you see in the modern Middle East are not religious; they are all about secular matters, principally Israeli occupation of Arab lands.

The Arabs see Israel as the last European colonialist state imposed on them by the European powers. That's true, in fact.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad are concerned only with ending Israeli occupation of Palestine. Hezbollah is concerned with ending Israeli occupation of Lebanon. Al-Qaeda wants to overthrow the Persian Gulf governments and is at war with us because we are the principal backers and supporters of those governments. Al-Qaeda alone is most un-Islamic and has been so labeled by a majority of Muslims. It is a small group.

If you wish to understand Islam, turn off your TV and go to the library. Introduce yourself to some of America's 6 million Muslims. You'll find them to be very decent and patriotic people. There are some fanatics among Muslims, just as there are among Jews and Christians. Most of the New England states were originally populated by people fleeing Puritan rule in Massachusetts.

The way to combat the fanatics is to extend the hand of friendship to ordinary Muslims and to protest the slander and libel of Muslims and Islam, just as you should protest the slander and libel of Jews and other groups. Bigotry should have no place in our public dialogue, regardless of the target.

It's obvious that President Bush will never understand the world into which he was born, but most Americans have more open minds – except, of course, those who prefer to click their heels and salute when their Fuehrer of choice speaks.

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#3. To: Zoroaster (#0)

Importing Islam is a threat to the West, granted not a big one in light of other more pressing issues. It's culture is alien, and having an alien network, be it to an abstract God or an abstract state in the Middle East is not a good thing. Reese is guilty of creating a dichotimy of black and white rather than operating in the gray.

Secondly, facsicm is a rightwing social-democrat response that protected the role of the Church, Money and the Military, which politically made them opposite their close cousins the Leftwing Social Democrat. (I for one see National Socialism as an entity that looks to overthrow or co-opt the Church, the military, industry for its own purpose.)

Thus Islamo-facism doesn't make any sense as Reese notes because the pillars that make up the classical Western state, a formal Church, Military, Industry simply aren't there.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-08-29   7:34:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: JohnGalt (#3)

Religion is a creation of man, not God. Therefore, religions have their places in time and space. The West, as the invader of Islam's territory, is clearly the beast of prey.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-08-29   7:59:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zoroaster (#4)

The invader? The West turned a secular republic into an Islamic Republic and with its idiot policy of encrouaging mob rule, the West has strengthened Islam amongst its worst lot. Add in the money the West offers when Muslim populations settle, work, and profit here, and its a bad situation all around.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-08-29   8:01:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: JohnGalt (#5)

The invader? The West turned a secular republic into an Islamic Republic and with its idiot policy of encrouaging mob rule, the West has strengthened Islam amongst its worst lot. Add in the money the West offers when Muslim populations settle, work, and profit here, and its a bad situation all around.

True enough, though Bush and his warmongering cabal are clearly the invaders of Iraq. It's a mess, and I'm not certain whether it's unintentional or designed. The Iraqi death toll since the latest invasion probably exceeds 100,000, add to this Gulf War I and the sanctions the total may be in the millions. Perhaps mass genocide was the plan all along. If the Muslim population goes unchecked, demographics will swallow Israel in the next generation, and Iran appears to be the next target.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-08-29   8:27:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zoroaster (#6)

Your post illustrates the danger of reverse pan-Arab thinking. Iraq was not a Muslim country, and has Scheurer said, the Bush Regime, or really, the agenda of the permanent government is Osama's greatest ally, which should be understood as Radical/militant Islam's greatest ally. You are correct in regards to stating Likudnick/Israeli rightwing strategic calculus regarding demographics, but in turn, you are legitmizing their position and their point that they are fighting for their lives.

The challenge is to stay out of this sort of diametric thinking, no?

I don't think the Middle East policy is anything more than its doable. Our morally bankrupt leaders don't think that deep.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-08-29   9:17:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: JohnGalt (#7)

Whatever problems people of one religion have with with the people of another, they are going to have to be adults and work out their differences.

Islam is one of the world's major religions, it has over a billion believers. It is not going away. The U.S. Constitution allows freedom of religion and that is not going away.

I have many friends of all faiths including that of Islam, but Sunni and Shiite. I would stand with them to defend their right to their religion in this country every bit as much as I would defend Judaism, Christianity, or any other religion to exist unlynched and unmolested by intolerant ideologues who want to exacerbate tensions and try to take away their right of freedom to worship as they chose.

It doesn't get any simpler than that, you are going to have to get along, or do away with the keystone of our government, the U.S. Constitution.

And that is unacceptable.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-08-29   9:40:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#9) (Edited)

I have no love for the Constitution which I consider a usurption of the perfectly functioning Articles of Confederation, but it appears you suffer from the 'libertarian' disease, that tendency to deny the reality that if you put two different peoples, regardless of anything else, in close proximity they will compete for favors from the state which causes disharmony and angst. The State welcomes this, encourages this, and subsidizes this, as it justifies its existance as the final arbitrator.

The best scenario is keeping different folks seperate in their own region, practically make them stay, make them learn patria, let capital and trade flow freely. George Washington in his Farewell Address, the only version of a republic centered in DC that I can accept, understood the fear isn't just foreign influence, but the tendency for folks to see threats only on one side or the other, rather than from all sides.

Religous intolerance, tribal intolerance, these are facts of life, for better or worse, and its simply acknowledging a heresy, that the neocons are correct when they say we are a nation founded on a creed, as opposed to a historical nation.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-08-29   10:05:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: JohnGalt (#10)

The best scenario is keeping different folks seperate in their own region, practically make them stay, make them learn patria, let capital and trade flow freely.

Hey, JG. Good to see you. And by the way, you're wrong.

People have to flow across regional boundaries, too. Are there going to be conflicts? Sure. Are there going to be competing interests trying to curry favor with the gummint? Sure. I'm not saying we need to open all borders, but I adhere to the notion that diversity is a GOOD thing, in pretty much every way. Consider Georgia, whose ethnic makeup has changed little in the past century (relatively) and California or New York, which have seen emigrations and immigrations and flux and flow. Georgia is comparatively stultified, culturally and economically. That's not to knock Georgia, because tradition and conservatism have their place, but it is not just the free flow of ideas, money and goods that create 'wealth'. The flow of culture itself is beneficial.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-08-29   10:18:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bluedogtxn (#15) (Edited)

You are speaking of two different issues. For example, I support the free flow of labor, a loose border, between Canada and my native lands. Our border issues are different than the issues of the Southwest. To appeal to a libertarian abstract that somehow all borders are the same is a non-starter.

I support more immigration from Europe, less from Somalia...I don't like how they treat babygirls no more than I like folks who eat horse meat or cats or dogs. It doesn't follow that what I really mean is bombs and boxcars. I would be a fool to not note the obvious that when alien peoples are imported either for labor or to be clients of the welfare state, conflict insues. Mediating those conflicts in the interests of my family, the core unit of resistance to tyranny, requires different things at different times.

Often, when folks mean diversity, they mean to change their own culture. How many people left in the US of A can trace back their family to the early 1900s? The War Between the States? The Revolution? The American civilization that existed in the century and a half before the New Englanders said 'enough to all that'? That is diversity, real diversity, as opposed to appealing to an abstract that we are really all the same, boys and girls, settler Americans, versus transnational/welfare state Americans.

The end I have in mind is peace and prosperity which encourages high culture and great beauty like Mozart, or something simple like a fine local ale brewed from a local artisan. And indeed, good to see you as well. It's more fun to not be on the same side on a board like this, I find. It's our difference that are interesting.

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