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Title: B'nai B'rith and ADL step on their peckers using the Minutemen's feet
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URL Source: http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla ... ws_philosophy&Number=294907002
Published: Sep 1, 2006
Author: bluegrass
Post Date: 2006-09-01 05:52:17 by bluegrass
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This is a good one.
Jerome Corsi is listed on the ADL's site as a current leader of an "extremist/vigilante" group. He's also a lifelong supporter of B'nai B'rith and was once a member of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission. I've heard Corsi on the usual Ziopap shows like George Noory and Jim Bohanan linking Iran and immigration any number of times.
As I know someone from at least one group monitors this board, I have a question for B'nai B'rith, the ADL and their partisans: Is Jerome Corsi no longer a member in good standing now that he's an extremist or is he still the operative that he appears to be?
From the ADL's website: Quote:
Archive of Extremist Events by State: 2006
New York
Wednesday, July 26, 2006
New York, New York
Anti-immigration rally Demonstration organized by the Minuteman Project, a border vigilante group, featuring Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi.
This tidbit used to be at the Forward's site. It's now scrubbed: Quote:
Jerome Corsi, the co-author of the anti-John Kerry book “Unfit for Command” — who recently apologized publicly for some coarse comments about Muslims, Catholics and Jews that he posted on a right-wing Web site, http://freerepublic.com — called the Forward on Tuesday to attest to his pro-Jewish bona fides.
“I have created two mutual funds for the State of Israel for B’nai B’rith,” said Corsi, an investment specialist who has worked for banks and for his own firms. Although neither fund succeeded because of lack of investor interest, “I [went] to Jerusalem twice as the guest of B’nai B’rith…. I worked two years of my life to get [the funds] done. I’ve been a strong supporter of B’nai B’rith and Jewish causes for 30 years,” Corsi said.
As for the outré comments, they were “for generating discussion, satirical purposes, whatever.”
Added Corsi in an e-mail: “My current financial services company, U.S. Financial Marketing Group, is currently developing affinity marketing programs for Jewish social service workers.” A plug he wants, yet?
Forward, September 09, 2004
This is from an Israeli site: Quote:
Dr. Jerome Corsi, formerly with the Israel Atomic Energy Commission and author of Atomic Iran
Knesset Briefing on Iranian's Nuclear Weapons, 06/25/05
A personal note to B'nai B'rith and the ADL: You're getting sloppy if a white-knuckled, mouthbreathing, stupid redneck like me can catch you in the act. Maybe you all should circulate more memos or something.
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#38. To: bluegrass (#36)
Yes indeed, I am a foxy guy. I just had no idea that you cared or noticed you being a heterosexual too and all. Guess life is just sometimes strange that way, yes? ;-D
Thanks for the info. If Keyes is also involved there's no doubt what the Minutemen are being used for.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
You fit the stereotypical ADL shill to a T. You respond to honest questions with trolling.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Nah. I resent the use of slander as a tool to try to discredit people arguing the other side of an issue. I am told I must be some kind of operative for an organization I have never worked with and this lie is used to try to put me on the defensive right at the get go. Some backing down by someone we know and their being human enough not to make a discussion about that organization a witch hunt would go a long way to making me feel like talking his issue. Sorry my dear, I do not let people put words in my mouth or tell me whom I represent. I resent Goldi-Lox doing this when she blurs the line between RaisedEyeBrow's posts and mine, and I resent being told who and what I am working at the behest of. Got it? I hope so. Because if I mean anything, I mean this.
A former official of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission with a job background in financial services? What is the guy's doctorate in?
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
Well now, lookie at what I was just posting about. Funny how that works, isn't it? You are the shell of a shill, bluie, and you started off on the "so how long have you beaten yer wife" tone, so stick your shit right back up your ass. I want nothing to do with you in terms of dialogging on anything, as long as all you are hawking has the stink of trying to intimidate with accusations.
Scumbaggery.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
This background piece on Corsi makes it clear that Corsi got his doctorate from Harvard in political science. It also makes it clear that he grew up a Catholic and claims to be a practising Catholic still. I wonder how the connection with Israel came about.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
Our conversation began just dandily. It started to go awry weeks ago when you claimed the ADL was a swell bunch of fellers and I asked you to back up your words with proof. You also seemed to get a little wordshy when I showed you the B'nai B'rith documentation about Columbus and his Jewish roots after you said, rightly, that Columbus and his men engaged in wholesale slaughter of the locals. Back up what you say or expect to be treated like a lightweight. It's not up to me to look at a spying commissar outfit like the ADL and see what you claim they are if you won't even provide examples of the claim. Name one postive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception. Again, I note that you have yet to address the topic of Jerome Corsi, the subject of this thread.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Jerome Corsi - Israeli govt. official - is 'jrlc' on Free Republic BTW, this illustrates the larger point I've always tried to make about B'nai B'rith, the ADL and other such groups using controlled opposition. The Minutemen have been subverted by Corsi, a known B'nai B'rith operative. Corsi also made a small fortune when he swiftboated Kerry. Makes you wonder why Alex Jones has been featuring Corsi lately.
"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon
I believe that Jerome Corsi is kin to Edward Corsi, another B'nai B'rith/ADL operative from the early to mid part of this century. Edward Corsi was also involved in immigration issues. I have a couple of articles on him that I'll scan and post if you're interested. Edward Corsi was Commissioner of Immigration at Ellis Island in 1931 and later became Commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization for the Feds under Roosevelt. I wouldn't be surprised if the Corsi family were Italian crypto-Jews.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
1. Family 2. Religion 376. Country Right?
I stopped listening to Jones when I saw his spin on the USS Liberty attack. If Jones is pushing Corsi, he's either one terrible researcher or it's part of the Jones agenda. Sidenote: The founder of B'nai B'rith was named Henry Jones. ; )
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Country comes in last every time.
I know there were crypto-Jews in Spain. Were there also crypto-Jews in Italy?
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
"Enrico Fermi was an Italian Jew. "
There were and are plenty of Jews in Italy. But how many have pretended to be Catholics?
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
There are crypto-Jews in every country that Jews have ever lived in. Currently, the Tribe is attempting to beef up its ranks by holding "coming out" parties for crypto-Jews worldwide. There have also been a spate of recent rabbinical rulings specifically for crypto-Jews. Some of the pathetic brainwashed goyim that may have had a Jewish great-great grandparent are calling themselves crypto-Jews and joining the parade. What's so funny is that the Tribalists will never accept them as Jews, but they'll certainly use them as they see fit.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Synchronicity. That question about Fermi had just popped into my head a few days ago.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Nah, it was end of discussion when you made it plain you thought branding me a shill for an organization I don't work for regardless of what I said. I don't have to bother someone like you who makes McCarthyistic accusations to advance their agenda. As far as wordy goes, that is a strange comment coming from the likes of you. Nothing is black and white, and I am not the bad guy who works for whom you wish I did. You are a fuckwit who makes it ruthlessly plain you give no room for an opposing view and you get downright slanderous and personal in how you do things. The person and the one whose operational modus you need to look at is you and yours' chum, not me and mine. You have a good Labor Day fête and Shalom anyway.
Fermi was a Catholic, I do not recall whether he pretended or not.
If asking you to back up what you claim is a McCarthy tactic, no wonder I like McCarthy over the ADL and other Communist camoflagues. Nothing is black and white Truth and lies are black and white. One is either attempting to tell the truth or attempting to hide the truth. Hiding the truth is called lying. You are a fuckwit You have yet to name one postive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception and you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread, one Jerome Corsi.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
If somebody really is -- rather than pretends to be -- a Catholic, or any other kind of Christian, I don't think it's right to call him a "crypto- Jew," whatever his descent.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
Assuming that you're speaking of Corsi, Christians don't work for B'nai B'rith.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
I made no distinction, other than he was a Jew and a Catholic.. I know of only two people that have become Jews, Sammy Davis and Goldi.
You need to cut the shit and stop pretending that I've been posting since the mid nineties working for an agency. You are playing games and you are the one going on the attack concerning a point I made clear why I am not going further on it with someone slandering me. And that's me, Mike McCarthy, not an anonymous 'Ferret Mike.' Your dunning has no intent to get feedback, it is to merely play a game of character assasination, nothing more. One can speculate as to your motivations for this latest attempt at badgering. Suffice it to say, you are not shutting me up, not driving me away. I am more stubborn then you are malicious, and I don't mind at all pointing a light at what you are doing. Perhaps it is the attention whore in you that wants everything and anything in the news to be painted toward the damnation of Israel and Jews, who is to say? But you are telling me that I am some kind of operative for your main villain in life. Stick it. Is it to warn anyone else who has the audacity to come into 4UM without your hair suit of a black and white humorless and doctrinairian tilt toward being anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist? I sure wouldn't put it past you. Cut the crap. I work for me and my opinions, when you get your head on straight and admit that, then we are getting to where we can discuss this organization in particular, or the topic of anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism in general. I definitely listen to what you say, but you won't even give proper accreditation to what I have to say so forget about it. You do not reciprocate the listening process. And you are welcome, I am more then glad to explain where you are wrong here.
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0) More "good works" of the ADL? bluegrass posted on 2006-09-01 6:02:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply "You have yet to name one postive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception and you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread, one Jerome Corsi. As you see by the first post on this trace, you paged me to this thread. Address your problem concerning your misrepresentation of me and my words, and I would be happy to talk about Corsi.
For one that indulges in bad language and tends to call others names or hang labels on them, you are far too sensitive. Some people might even conclude you have an agenda.
Unless you feel like you're on shaky ground, asking you to back up your claims isn't an attack. A reasonable person has only to comb through this thread to see who's been engaging in name-calling and childish temper tantrums. Hint: it ain't me. I work for me and my opinions Then back up your opinions when asked to do so or leave the field. Don't try to divert by trolling. It just makes you look bad. I definitely listen to what you say Of course you do. You're a self-professed monitor of "hate speech" on the net. I'm a proponent of saying things that some people will hate. You do not reciprocate the listening process. I'm here to converse with whom I choose to. You need to earn the right to have me listen to you by saying something worth hearing. Thus far, all I've heard is invective and apologia for the ADL. I can get that at Free Republic.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Indeed. Either ignore me or put me on your bozo list if you don't wish to engage. Address your problem concerning your misrepresentation of me and my words, and I would be happy to talk about Corsi. I don't have the problem. You claim to be a monitor of internet discussion boards and you claim the ADL does "good work". Your problem is backing up the latter claim and trying to live down the former. And you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
I am a former Special Operations C communication Sergeant and if I want to call lurking by a term with similar meaning I've used more then lurking I will. You came up with the arrogant dunning and badgering campaign much like a colleague of people who frequent the E activism section of http://Stormfront.org. http://www.stormfront.org/forum/forumdi s play.php?s=e8288b8994c7563fdc850dbaaea49ed8&f=27 You have your suspicions, I have mine. You naturally know I am aware of the public sections of that part of that board and would wonder how much of the secret portions of that section I know about. You are arrogant, and you seamlessly use tactics adopted by Stormfront to deal with people aware of Internet E activism. I've only done what I needed to do to see if you act like I expect you to act, and you do. It is not my job to point out the obviously good things that the ADL do, you can do that yourself, and I would say nothing you don't already know. You are a one track mind mother superior who makes sure this board never veers far from the one track mind you want it to have. And you do it with arrogance, malicious intent toward people you suspect know too much for your liking, and with all the commitment of an activist that does this all the time. You should worry, because even though I do not work with the ADL, I am smart and have enough training and education to cause you heartache. And I am not someone you can direct down the line of baiting where you have set your rhetorical snares and dead fall traps. You are fascinating to watch, and you sure are not fooling me one bit. ;-)
I never use that dear boy. I would miss out on too many of your shenanigans. Yes, I do lurk, and you admitted in you last post you have experienced people telling what you could already hear from me at Free Republic, so you obviously have a different agenda then procuring easily obtained information from me.
Sonny, I am allot nicer then most people here, so you hush that silliness. I use quite a bit of restraint in language, after being a paratrooper almost nine years, I assure you I can be allot saltier. Besides, most of my rhetorical nastiness when used almost never involves name calling. I am a real life environmental activist, silly boy, I have never made it a secret of who I am, or what my agenda is. I am very very interested in seeing Bush and company pay dearly for these wars, 9 11 and the Kennedy assassination and am more interested in what is going on at Alex Jones site then Buie's light dog and pony show poisoning 4UM with Stormfront grade hatred and bigotry. So you can untwist your little pink panties you have all in a knot there.
Lets get something straight... Firstly your nastiness is already apparent. Secondly it takes an adult to carry on conversations with other adults. Thirdly..I am not impressed by anyone that touts themselves. What you are or what you did is of no interest. What you do here is what matters. Your childish personal arrogance will bring you grief. You want to chat with adults here on this forum, the best way is to to show some social manners. Without those you are going to be ignored here.
No you get something straight. I have been patient, and quite civil. You obviously have not read me much or you would already know that. I do not like the name calling being directed my way. It was brought up recently by Bluie because he wants to bait and bother. Before you jump in, you should do a him to me search and see who is baiting whom. I am not here to try to impress anybody, nor be slandered. If you give me the grief Buie is trying to give me, I am going to respond in kind, that is just how it is. And I have done so with very little invective. I use only a little of that to empathize a point when I do. I am not impressed that you apparently like to jump in the middle of things without knowing much about the whys of it. Bluie has not been adult in the manner he choses to bait and accuse. If he wants to talk like an adult and stop his character assassination and dunning after the style of a Joe McCarthy, I have no problem talking to him or anybody here. I have explained quite patiently that all I require is for the games to stop. I have made it plain I am not impressed nor going to go on the defensive about it as he wishes me to. It is as simple as that.
You'll never hear Corsi mention Chertoff's role in the SPP, for instance. Chertoff and his wife are bigdogs in B'nai B'rith. Thanks for the clarification. I had heard Corsi on Alex Jones once (discussing the SPP), It seemed he had researched that topic quite a bit but I remember Alex saying there was very litte he agreed with Corsi on. I knew quite a bit about Chertoff, and that he was sent to Canada recently about the SPP deal. But come to think of it his name didn't come up during the Alex Jones interview.
"Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Ben Franklin
You know not to whom you speak. Shame, shame. On the other hand, you include a lot of personal information that has nothing to do with your language. Or does it, I wonder???
It sound like something working both ways. Shame, shame.
I doubt that, since Cynicom has more parachute time than you have had chowline time ... and not at a time when you were hooked to a line that pulls the ripcord for you.
I doubt that, since Cynicom has more parachute time than you have had chowline time ... and not at a time when you were hooked to a line that pulls the ripcord for you. If you two are going to use the thread to measure peckers, excuse the rest of us if we chuckle and aren't impressed.
Good for him. You sound like someone that is just into ragging on someone for the sake of ragging on them. I only served nine years, and I did not go to jumpmaster's school. I did the HALO course as my team was HALO. But I respect anyone who served regardless of whether it was three years or thirty plus. I read his comments he posted after I left to go do important stuff I needed to get out of the way and enjoyed his observations. I don't agree with the slam on Morrow, but so it goes. In any event, you have grumbled and ragged on me, someone you really don't know and I don't particularly know your or Cynicom; gee pardon the Hell out of me. Have a good Labor Day weekend anyway.
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#41. To: Lady X (#30)
"You are embarrassing only yourself"
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#43. To: bluegrass, LadyX (#40)
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"You fit the stereotypical ADL shill to a T. You respond to honest questions with trolling."
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#44. To: aristeides (#42)
What is the guy's doctorate in?
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#46. To: Ferret Mike (#43)
#47. To: bluegrass (#1)
For further reference, an old LF thread on the same shylock from July '05:
#48. To: aristeides (#45)
I wonder how the connection with Israel came about.
#49. To: Cynicom (#19)
Having family and friends that are Jews, I well know where their allegiance lies if push comes to shove.
"America" is nothing more than a collection of ever-growing federal employees with selectively enforced National Laws, their own Treasury, who possess residents-not citizens, a soon-to-be-obsloete currency, a displaced (foreign placed) National Military, a multi-lingual environment, an indeterminent culture, no real borders, a symbolic flag and a few sports teams.
#50. To: BTP Holdings (#47)
Makes you wonder why Alex Jones has been featuring Corsi lately.
#51. To: add925 (#49)
376. Country
#52. To: bluegrass (#48)
I wouldn't be surprised if the Corsi family were Italian crypto-Jews.
#53. To: bluegrass (#48)
I wouldn't be surprised if the Corsi family were Italian crypto-Jews.
#54. To: Cynicom (#53)
#55. To: aristeides (#52)
Were there also crypto-Jews in Italy?
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#57. To: bluegrass (#46)
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#58. To: aristeides (#54)
. But how many have pretended to be Catholics?
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#57)
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McCarthyistic accusations
#60. To: Cynicom (#58)
Fermi was a Catholic
#61. To: aristeides, Cynicom (#60)
#62. To: aristeides (#60)
"crypto- Jew," whatever his descent.
#63. To: bluegrass (#59)
"You have yet to name one positive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception and you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread, one Jerome Corsi."
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#65. To: Ferret Mike (#63)
Perhaps it is the attention whore in you that wants everything and anything in the news to be painted toward the damnation of Israel and Jews,
#66. To: Ferret Mike (#63)
you are the one going on the attack
#67. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
As you see by the first post on this trace, you paged me to this thread.
#68. To: bluegrass (#66)
"Of course you do. You're a self-professed monitor of "hate speech" on the net. I'm a proponent of saying things that some people will hate."
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Indeed. Either ignore me or put me on your bozo list if you don't wish to engage.
"I don't have the problem. You claim to be a monitor of Internet discussion boards and you claim the ADL does "good work". Your problem is backing up the latter claim and trying to live down the former."
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"For one that indulges in bad language and tends to call others names or hang labels on them, you are far too sensitive."
"Some people might even conclude you have an agenda."
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#71. To: Ferret Mike (#70)
Sonny, I am allot nicer then most people here, so you hush that silliness. I use quite a bit of restraint in language, after being a paratrooper almost nine years, I assure you I can be allot saltier. Besides, most of my rhetorical nastiness when used almost never involves name calling.
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#73. To: bluegrass (#16)
One of Corsi's tasks is to divert and control the discussion and debate to steer it away from the topic of Jewish/Zionist involvement.
#74. To: Ferret Mike (#70)
Sonny, I am allot nicer then most people here, so you hush that silliness.
#75. To: Phant2000 (#74)
"You know not to whom you speak. Shame, shame."
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#76. To: Ferret Mike (#75)
It sound like something working both ways.
#77. To: Phant2000, Ferret Mike (#76)
It sound like something working both ways.
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"I doubt that, since Cynicom has more parachute time than you have had chowline time ... and not at a time when you were hooked to a line that pulls the ripcord for you."
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