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Title: B'nai B'rith and ADL step on their peckers using the Minutemen's feet
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URL Source: http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla ... ws_philosophy&Number=294907002
Published: Sep 1, 2006
Author: bluegrass
Post Date: 2006-09-01 05:52:17 by bluegrass
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This is a good one.
Jerome Corsi is listed on the ADL's site as a current leader of an "extremist/vigilante" group. He's also a lifelong supporter of B'nai B'rith and was once a member of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission. I've heard Corsi on the usual Ziopap shows like George Noory and Jim Bohanan linking Iran and immigration any number of times.
As I know someone from at least one group monitors this board, I have a question for B'nai B'rith, the ADL and their partisans: Is Jerome Corsi no longer a member in good standing now that he's an extremist or is he still the operative that he appears to be?
From the ADL's website: Quote:
Archive of Extremist Events by State: 2006
New York
Wednesday, July 26, 2006
New York, New York
Anti-immigration rally Demonstration organized by the Minuteman Project, a border vigilante group, featuring Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi.
This tidbit used to be at the Forward's site. It's now scrubbed: Quote:
Jerome Corsi, the co-author of the anti-John Kerry book “Unfit for Command” — who recently apologized publicly for some coarse comments about Muslims, Catholics and Jews that he posted on a right-wing Web site, http://freerepublic.com — called the Forward on Tuesday to attest to his pro-Jewish bona fides.
“I have created two mutual funds for the State of Israel for B’nai B’rith,” said Corsi, an investment specialist who has worked for banks and for his own firms. Although neither fund succeeded because of lack of investor interest, “I [went] to Jerusalem twice as the guest of B’nai B’rith…. I worked two years of my life to get [the funds] done. I’ve been a strong supporter of B’nai B’rith and Jewish causes for 30 years,” Corsi said.
As for the outré comments, they were “for generating discussion, satirical purposes, whatever.”
Added Corsi in an e-mail: “My current financial services company, U.S. Financial Marketing Group, is currently developing affinity marketing programs for Jewish social service workers.” A plug he wants, yet?
Forward, September 09, 2004
This is from an Israeli site: Quote:
Dr. Jerome Corsi, formerly with the Israel Atomic Energy Commission and author of Atomic Iran
Knesset Briefing on Iranian's Nuclear Weapons, 06/25/05
A personal note to B'nai B'rith and the ADL: You're getting sloppy if a white-knuckled, mouthbreathing, stupid redneck like me can catch you in the act. Maybe you all should circulate more memos or something.
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#1. To: Lady X, noone 222, Brian S, christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, bluedogtxn, Brian S, Jethro Tull, Tauzero, Red Jones, mugwort, Peetie Wheatstraw, HOUNDDAWG, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, tom007, aristeides, Eoghan, SKYDRIFTER, Cynicom, loner (#0)
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For further reference, an old LF thread on the same shylock from July '05: Jerome Corsi - Israeli govt. official - is 'jrlc' on Free Republic BTW, this illustrates the larger point I've always tried to make about B'nai B'rith, the ADL and other such groups using controlled opposition. The Minutemen have been subverted by Corsi, a known B'nai B'rith operative. Corsi also made a small fortune when he swiftboated Kerry.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
More "good works" of the ADL?
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Yet, "he's a Catholic?" Vhich parish? http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43013 Corsi said he still plans to take up residence in Boston this spring as the first step of a plan to challenge Kerry for his Senate seat in 2008. He acknowledges an issue likely to come up amid publicity for the book and his political aspirations is allegations made by opponents last year of bigotry against Catholics, the pope and Muslims, based on some of his posts to the Internet site http://FreeRepublic.com. Corsi insists he wrote the posts only to be satirical and provocative. "I apologize to anyone who took them as a direct expression of my beliefs," he said. Corsi emphasized he's a Catholic who has created a mutual fund for Israel and now is establishing a group led by two Muslims, called the Iran Freedom Foundation. "I'm reaching out to Christians, Muslims and Jews to stop these criminal mullahs who have hijacked Islam and stolen a good country," he said.
If they've been infiltrated (and from inception!) then that may explain this creeping aversion I have to a wall on the border to fence us IN, rather than the illegals, out. Thanks for this info.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers That disappeared quick. It evaporated at about the time the LF thread from July '05 was posted and got about 3000 hits in a day or two. We do make a difference whether we know it or not. ; )
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
I suspect it was subverted after it was created, These vipers can only subvert the honest actions of those Americans that wish to see a better life for themselves and their families. It's been the age-old story in America - citizens form around an idea and it goes from true grassroots effort to subverted Zioproject replete with propaganda. In the end, citizens get suckered and left feeling bitter and some grandstanding narcissist like Corsi gets fame, money and his groups' ends met. Thanks for this info. Thanks for reading and seeing it. I hope it gets passed around.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
He acknowledges an issue likely to come up amid publicity for the book and his political aspirations is allegations made by opponents last year of bigotry against Catholics, the pope and Muslims, based on some of his posts to the Internet site http://FreeRepublic.com. Good grief! Corsi emphasized he's a Catholic who has created a mutual fund for Israel and now is establishing a group led by two Muslims, called the Iran Freedom Foundation. And that's even more troubling. Good find, thanks for pointing out this opportunistic worm.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Hostile takeover? I've seen the same in business, especially high-tech. Wait to see which small high-tech company is doing best, then buy it out. The problems begin when they replace the original engineers with their own. hahaha
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers It's the same process. It's called 'predation'. ; )
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Yep, once I heard Connie Hair (CaL) was it's spokesperson, I knew it was effectively dead. That didn't - and doesn't - stop some old, useless white men from sitting in lawn chairs and counting the MS-13 members as they invade America unimpeded. The delusional mind is a happy mind.
Remember the scandal that was brewing regarding the financial dealings with Jim Gilchrist, and Alan Keyes?
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#3. To: bluegrass (#0)
Jerome Corsi, the co-author of the anti-John Kerry book “Unfit for Command” — who recently apologized publicly for some coarse comments about Muslims, Catholics and Jews that he posted on a right-wing Web site, http://freerepublic.com — called the Forward on Tuesday to attest to his pro-Jewish bona fides.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#4. To: bluegrass, *The Border* (#1)
#5. To: Eoghan (#3)
Corsi emphasized he's a Catholic who has created a mutual fund for Israel and now is establishing a group led by two Muslims, called the Iran Freedom Foundation.
#6. To: robin (#4)
If they've been infiltrated (and from inception!) then that may explain this creeping aversion I have to a wall on the border to fence us IN, rather than the illegals, out.
#7. To: Eoghan, bluegrass (#3)
Corsi said he still plans to take up residence in Boston this spring as the first step of a plan to challenge Kerry for his Senate seat in 2008.
#8. To: bluegrass (#6)
In the end, citizens get suckered and left feeling bitter and some grandstanding narcissist like Corsi gets fame, money and his groups' ends met.
#9. To: robin (#8)
#10. To: bluegrass, Buckeroo (#1)
BTW, this illustrates the larger point I've always tried to make about B'nai B'rith, the ADL and other such groups using controlled opposition. The Minutemen have been subverted by Corsi, a known B'nai B'rith operative.
#11. To: bluegrass, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#12. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#11)
I missed that one. Do you have a good link that nutshells it?
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#13. To: robin (#7)
The ONLY good thing Corsi has done is point out the truth behind the North American Union deal. And apparently he should be in a position to know.
Good find, thanks for pointing out this opportunistic worm.
"Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Ben Franklin
#14. To: bluegrass (#1)
Corsi is nothing other than an opportunistic Jew. Period.
Corsi also made a small fortune when he swiftboated Kerry.
#15. To: Cynicom (#14)
Don't sugarcoat it. Say what you think. ; )
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#16. To: innieway, robin (#13)
Again, it's controlled opposition. The patriot and anti-immigration folsk have already picked up on the NAU and the SPP. One of Corsi's tasks is to divert and control the discussion and debate to steer it away from the topic of Jewish/Zionist involvement. You'll never hear Corsi mention Chertoff's role in the SPP, for instance. Chertoff and his wife are bigdogs in B'nai B'rith.
The ONLY good thing Corsi has done is point out the truth behind the North American Union deal.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#17. To: bluegrass (#2)
Their good works are evident to anyone who has their eyes open. Buy alas, you have yours' wide shut. Now, in your last little baits you whined I was on a thread of yours' and because of that you demanded answers from me. But really, as you are as shrill, tight lipped and malicious as any Bush botted Neo Con, I leave you to your intolerance and attempts to bully. If you even want to really talk about the ADL, you have to meet me halfway at least to the point of respecting your adversary in terms of the issue in terms of humanity. Because your bullying attempts at best are amusing, and never going to get you anywhere. I've actually met interlocutors that had the intellect and ammunition that made me really work at debating them, you are no challenge. You are embarrassing only yourself by your shrill demands and attempts at badgering with your hands tightly clapped over your ears. Your choice, and I need not worry about problems you make for yourself. In any event my little Eveready bunny, have a nice day anyway. ;-)
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#18. To: bluegrass (#0)
Being new to this forum, I'll have some dumass questions from time to time, like: ADL, as in Anti Defamation League? If so, didn't this group just do what they claim they are against, defamation? Think I'll ask Christine for some more Twilight Zone music.
Jerome Corsi is listed on the ADL's site as a current leader of an "extremist/vigilante" group.
"America" is nothing more than a collection of ever-growing federal employees with selectively enforced National Laws, their own Treasury, who possess residents-not citizens, a soon-to-be-obsloete currency, a displaced (foreign placed) National Military, a multi-lingual environment, an indeterminent culture, no real borders, a symbolic flag and a few sports teams.
#19. To: bluegrass (#15)
Any anti-government, pro American group, that knowingly admits any Jew is planning their own funeral. Having family and friends that are Jews, I well know where their allegiance lies if push comes to shove.
Don't sugarcoat it. Say what you think. ; )
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#17)
So you say. Brainwashing, propaganda and censorship don't strike me as "good works", so kindly explain what I'm missing. you are as shrill, tight lipped and malicious as any Bush botted Neo Con If all you have left is turd-tossing, just don't bother replying to my flags. I understand it must be rather embarassing to be unable to defend an indefensible position, but I always give you the chance. You've failed miserably every time. I note that you didn't even try to address the Corsi issue.
Their good works are evident to anyone who has their eyes open.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#21. To: bluegrass (#20)
Exactly. ;-)
"So you say."
+ + = #22. To: add925 (#18)
That's them. If so, didn't this group just do what they claim they are against, defamation? That's their bread and butter, along with lies and spying for Israel. BTW, a belated welcome to F4um.
ADL, as in Anti Defamation League?
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#23. To: Cynicom (#19)
You and I share a similar makeup of community.
Having family and friends that are Jews, I well know where their allegiance lies if push comes to shove.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#24. To: add925 (#18)
Patton got into so much trouble not so much for slapping a soldier, rather for calling him a "yellow bellied Jew". There happened to be a Jew reporter around so Patton was outed. What was not told was that the soldier had been admitted to the hospital three times in ten days because of his "nerves". Further the soldier and his other kin had a habit of every time a frontal attack was ordered, they went on sick call. This meant someone else had to take their place for the bleeding and dying. Sins of omission by the media has always been their stock in trade.
Think I'll ask Christine for some more Twilight Zone music.
#25. To: bluegrass (#23)
I am only their "family" and or "friend" as long as it is worthwhile. Users all. I am sure you well understand that.
You and I share a similar makeup of community.
#26. To: bluegrass (#0)
I remember that. Good to be reminded.
“I have created two mutual funds for the State of Israel for B’nai B’rith,”
The only English translation is that by J.A. Giles, which appears here. For some reason this work was not included in the Ante-Nicene Fathers, and has not been included in any other collection of the second century writers.
#27. To: Cynicom (#25)
I can't go that far. I've known some damn fine Jews in my day who don't buy into the exclusivity clause of the contract. They're few and far between but they're around.
Users all.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#28. To: add925 (#18)
ask and you shall receive ;)
Think I'll ask Christine for some more Twilight Zone music.
#29. To: Tauzero (#26)
Nice link in your sig. Thanks.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#17)
Please list the aforesaid 'good works'. You're projecting..
Their good works
You are embarrassing only yourself
#31. To: bluegrass (#27)
I was speaking of the group that are family and friends where I KNOW exactly how they feel. Years ago while living in NYC I had many Jewish coworkers that never bought into the the BS that is expected of them.
I can't go that far.
#32. To: Cynicom (#31)
Ah. My bad. I have a friend who was baptized when he was an infant and raised as a Christian until he was five years old. His mother then remarried to a Jew who took my friend as his own son and had him bar mitzvahed at 13. My friend has no use for religion of any kind but he's one of the finest human beings I know. He also agrees with 90% of the conclusions I've reached through my research. I think he reserves the other 10% for arguments.
I was speaking of the group that are family and friends where I KNOW exactly how they feel.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#33. To: bluegrass (#32)
Research??? Sadly too many people know nothing on their own, rather they accept what they are told. I have been called a rabid anti-semite by many. If that is true, I learned it from NYC Jews that never bought into the program. Their views make me look like a Saint.
He also agrees with 90% of the conclusions I've reached through my research.
#34. To: bluegrass (#12)
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#35. To: Cynicom (#33)
That's why my friend agrees with my conclusions. He was raised with it and knows the Mob first hand. He hated synagogue because it was ALL political propaganda. I've said it before: America is the end of the line for the exclusionary impulse of the Tribe, but the end won't be pretty or peaceful.
NYC Jews that never bought into the program.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#36. To: Lady X (#30)
Good luck getting a straight answer from Foxman Mike. ; )
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#37. To: Lady X (#30)
Actually, I am not closed mined and able to give credit where credit is due. If you can't look at the ADL and see where they have done good work, you are spin doctoring a point of view in too distorted a fashion for me to take seriously. That is exactly my point, and if you and Mr. Eveready Bunny can't see it, it is your problem, not mine. Thanks for the amusing post, and have a good day today and a great labor Day weekend.
"You're projecting.."
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Yes indeed, I am a foxy guy. I just had no idea that you cared or noticed you being a heterosexual too and all. Guess life is just sometimes strange that way, yes? ;-D
"Good luck getting a straight answer from Foxman Mike."
+ + = #39. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#34)
Thanks for the info. If Keyes is also involved there's no doubt what the Minutemen are being used for.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#38)
You fit the stereotypical ADL shill to a T. You respond to honest questions with trolling.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#41. To: Lady X (#30)
Nah. I resent the use of slander as a tool to try to discredit people arguing the other side of an issue. I am told I must be some kind of operative for an organization I have never worked with and this lie is used to try to put me on the defensive right at the get go. Some backing down by someone we know and their being human enough not to make a discussion about that organization a witch hunt would go a long way to making me feel like talking his issue. Sorry my dear, I do not let people put words in my mouth or tell me whom I represent. I resent Goldi-Lox doing this when she blurs the line between RaisedEyeBrow's posts and mine, and I resent being told who and what I am working at the behest of. Got it? I hope so. Because if I mean anything, I mean this.
"You are embarrassing only yourself"
+ + = #42. To: bluegrass (#0)
A former official of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission with a job background in financial services? What is the guy's doctorate in?
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#43. To: bluegrass, LadyX (#40) (Edited)
Well now, lookie at what I was just posting about. Funny how that works, isn't it? You are the shell of a shill, bluie, and you started off on the "so how long have you beaten yer wife" tone, so stick your shit right back up your ass. I want nothing to do with you in terms of dialogging on anything, as long as all you are hawking has the stink of trying to intimidate with accusations.
"You fit the stereotypical ADL shill to a T. You respond to honest questions with trolling."
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Scumbaggery.
What is the guy's doctorate in?
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#45. To: bluegrass (#44)
This background piece on Corsi makes it clear that Corsi got his doctorate from Harvard in political science. It also makes it clear that he grew up a Catholic and claims to be a practising Catholic still. I wonder how the connection with Israel came about.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#46. To: Ferret Mike (#43)
Our conversation began just dandily. It started to go awry weeks ago when you claimed the ADL was a swell bunch of fellers and I asked you to back up your words with proof. You also seemed to get a little wordshy when I showed you the B'nai B'rith documentation about Columbus and his Jewish roots after you said, rightly, that Columbus and his men engaged in wholesale slaughter of the locals. Back up what you say or expect to be treated like a lightweight. It's not up to me to look at a spying commissar outfit like the ADL and see what you claim they are if you won't even provide examples of the claim. Name one postive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception. Again, I note that you have yet to address the topic of Jerome Corsi, the subject of this thread.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#47. To: bluegrass (#1)
Jerome Corsi - Israeli govt. official - is 'jrlc' on Free Republic BTW, this illustrates the larger point I've always tried to make about B'nai B'rith, the ADL and other such groups using controlled opposition. The Minutemen have been subverted by Corsi, a known B'nai B'rith operative. Corsi also made a small fortune when he swiftboated Kerry. Makes you wonder why Alex Jones has been featuring Corsi lately.
For further reference, an old LF thread on the same shylock from July '05:
"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon
#48. To: aristeides (#45)
I believe that Jerome Corsi is kin to Edward Corsi, another B'nai B'rith/ADL operative from the early to mid part of this century. Edward Corsi was also involved in immigration issues. I have a couple of articles on him that I'll scan and post if you're interested. Edward Corsi was Commissioner of Immigration at Ellis Island in 1931 and later became Commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization for the Feds under Roosevelt. I wouldn't be surprised if the Corsi family were Italian crypto-Jews.
I wonder how the connection with Israel came about.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#49. To: Cynicom (#19)
1. Family 2. Religion 376. Country Right?
Having family and friends that are Jews, I well know where their allegiance lies if push comes to shove.
"America" is nothing more than a collection of ever-growing federal employees with selectively enforced National Laws, their own Treasury, who possess residents-not citizens, a soon-to-be-obsloete currency, a displaced (foreign placed) National Military, a multi-lingual environment, an indeterminent culture, no real borders, a symbolic flag and a few sports teams.
#50. To: BTP Holdings (#47)
I stopped listening to Jones when I saw his spin on the USS Liberty attack. If Jones is pushing Corsi, he's either one terrible researcher or it's part of the Jones agenda. Sidenote: The founder of B'nai B'rith was named Henry Jones. ; )
Makes you wonder why Alex Jones has been featuring Corsi lately.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#51. To: add925 (#49)
Country comes in last every time.
376. Country
#52. To: bluegrass (#48)
I know there were crypto-Jews in Spain. Were there also crypto-Jews in Italy?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Corsi family were Italian crypto-Jews.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#53. To: bluegrass (#48)
"Enrico Fermi was an Italian Jew. "
I wouldn't be surprised if the Corsi family were Italian crypto-Jews.
#54. To: Cynicom (#53)
There were and are plenty of Jews in Italy. But how many have pretended to be Catholics?
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#55. To: aristeides (#52)
There are crypto-Jews in every country that Jews have ever lived in. Currently, the Tribe is attempting to beef up its ranks by holding "coming out" parties for crypto-Jews worldwide. There have also been a spate of recent rabbinical rulings specifically for crypto-Jews. Some of the pathetic brainwashed goyim that may have had a Jewish great-great grandparent are calling themselves crypto-Jews and joining the parade. What's so funny is that the Tribalists will never accept them as Jews, but they'll certainly use them as they see fit.
Were there also crypto-Jews in Italy?
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#56. To: Cynicom (#53)
Synchronicity. That question about Fermi had just popped into my head a few days ago.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#57. To: bluegrass (#46) (Edited)
Nah, it was end of discussion when you made it plain you thought branding me a shill for an organization I don't work for regardless of what I said. I don't have to bother someone like you who makes McCarthyistic accusations to advance their agenda. As far as wordy goes, that is a strange comment coming from the likes of you. Nothing is black and white, and I am not the bad guy who works for whom you wish I did. You are a fuckwit who makes it ruthlessly plain you give no room for an opposing view and you get downright slanderous and personal in how you do things. The person and the one whose operational modus you need to look at is you and yours' chum, not me and mine. You have a good Labor Day fête and Shalom anyway.
+ + = #58. To: aristeides (#54)
Fermi was a Catholic, I do not recall whether he pretended or not.
. But how many have pretended to be Catholics?
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#57) (Edited)
If asking you to back up what you claim is a McCarthy tactic, no wonder I like McCarthy over the ADL and other Communist camoflagues. Nothing is black and white Truth and lies are black and white. One is either attempting to tell the truth or attempting to hide the truth. Hiding the truth is called lying. You are a fuckwit You have yet to name one postive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception and you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread, one Jerome Corsi.
McCarthyistic accusations
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#60. To: Cynicom (#58)
If somebody really is -- rather than pretends to be -- a Catholic, or any other kind of Christian, I don't think it's right to call him a "crypto- Jew," whatever his descent.
Fermi was a Catholic
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#61. To: aristeides, Cynicom (#60)
Assuming that you're speaking of Corsi, Christians don't work for B'nai B'rith.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#62. To: aristeides (#60)
I made no distinction, other than he was a Jew and a Catholic.. I know of only two people that have become Jews, Sammy Davis and Goldi.
"crypto- Jew," whatever his descent.
#63. To: bluegrass (#59)
You need to cut the shit and stop pretending that I've been posting since the mid nineties working for an agency. You are playing games and you are the one going on the attack concerning a point I made clear why I am not going further on it with someone slandering me. And that's me, Mike McCarthy, not an anonymous 'Ferret Mike.' Your dunning has no intent to get feedback, it is to merely play a game of character assasination, nothing more. One can speculate as to your motivations for this latest attempt at badgering. Suffice it to say, you are not shutting me up, not driving me away. I am more stubborn then you are malicious, and I don't mind at all pointing a light at what you are doing. Perhaps it is the attention whore in you that wants everything and anything in the news to be painted toward the damnation of Israel and Jews, who is to say? But you are telling me that I am some kind of operative for your main villain in life. Stick it. Is it to warn anyone else who has the audacity to come into 4UM without your hair suit of a black and white humorless and doctrinairian tilt toward being anti-Semitic or anti-Zionist? I sure wouldn't put it past you. Cut the crap. I work for me and my opinions, when you get your head on straight and admit that, then we are getting to where we can discuss this organization in particular, or the topic of anti-Semitism or anti-Zionism in general. I definitely listen to what you say, but you won't even give proper accreditation to what I have to say so forget about it. You do not reciprocate the listening process. And you are welcome, I am more then glad to explain where you are wrong here.
"You have yet to name one positive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception and you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread, one Jerome Corsi."
+ + = #64. To: bluegrass (#59)
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0) More "good works" of the ADL? bluegrass posted on 2006-09-01 6:02:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply "You have yet to name one postive thing that the ADL has done for America and Americans since its inception and you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread, one Jerome Corsi. As you see by the first post on this trace, you paged me to this thread. Address your problem concerning your misrepresentation of me and my words, and I would be happy to talk about Corsi.
Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 63.
+ + = #65. To: Ferret Mike (#63)
For one that indulges in bad language and tends to call others names or hang labels on them, you are far too sensitive. Some people might even conclude you have an agenda.
Perhaps it is the attention whore in you that wants everything and anything in the news to be painted toward the damnation of Israel and Jews,
#66. To: Ferret Mike (#63)
Unless you feel like you're on shaky ground, asking you to back up your claims isn't an attack. A reasonable person has only to comb through this thread to see who's been engaging in name-calling and childish temper tantrums. Hint: it ain't me. I work for me and my opinions Then back up your opinions when asked to do so or leave the field. Don't try to divert by trolling. It just makes you look bad. I definitely listen to what you say Of course you do. You're a self-professed monitor of "hate speech" on the net. I'm a proponent of saying things that some people will hate. You do not reciprocate the listening process. I'm here to converse with whom I choose to. You need to earn the right to have me listen to you by saying something worth hearing. Thus far, all I've heard is invective and apologia for the ADL. I can get that at Free Republic.
you are the one going on the attack
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#67. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
Indeed. Either ignore me or put me on your bozo list if you don't wish to engage. Address your problem concerning your misrepresentation of me and my words, and I would be happy to talk about Corsi. I don't have the problem. You claim to be a monitor of internet discussion boards and you claim the ADL does "good work". Your problem is backing up the latter claim and trying to live down the former. And you still haven't addressed the topic of this thread.
As you see by the first post on this trace, you paged me to this thread.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#68. To: bluegrass (#66)
I am a former Special Operations C communication Sergeant and if I want to call lurking by a term with similar meaning I've used more then lurking I will. You came up with the arrogant dunning and badgering campaign much like a colleague of people who frequent the E activism section of http://Stormfront.org. http://www.stormfront.org/forum/forumdi s play.php?s=e8288b8994c7563fdc850dbaaea49ed8&f=27 You have your suspicions, I have mine. You naturally know I am aware of the public sections of that part of that board and would wonder how much of the secret portions of that section I know about. You are arrogant, and you seamlessly use tactics adopted by Stormfront to deal with people aware of Internet E activism. I've only done what I needed to do to see if you act like I expect you to act, and you do. It is not my job to point out the obviously good things that the ADL do, you can do that yourself, and I would say nothing you don't already know. You are a one track mind mother superior who makes sure this board never veers far from the one track mind you want it to have. And you do it with arrogance, malicious intent toward people you suspect know too much for your liking, and with all the commitment of an activist that does this all the time. You should worry, because even though I do not work with the ADL, I am smart and have enough training and education to cause you heartache. And I am not someone you can direct down the line of baiting where you have set your rhetorical snares and dead fall traps. You are fascinating to watch, and you sure are not fooling me one bit. ;-)
"Of course you do. You're a self-professed monitor of "hate speech" on the net. I'm a proponent of saying things that some people will hate."
+ + = #69. To: bluegrass (#67)
I never use that dear boy. I would miss out on too many of your shenanigans. Yes, I do lurk, and you admitted in you last post you have experienced people telling what you could already hear from me at Free Republic, so you obviously have a different agenda then procuring easily obtained information from me.
Indeed. Either ignore me or put me on your bozo list if you don't wish to engage.
"I don't have the problem. You claim to be a monitor of Internet discussion boards and you claim the ADL does "good work". Your problem is backing up the latter claim and trying to live down the former."
+ + = #70. To: Cynicom (#65)
Sonny, I am allot nicer then most people here, so you hush that silliness. I use quite a bit of restraint in language, after being a paratrooper almost nine years, I assure you I can be allot saltier. Besides, most of my rhetorical nastiness when used almost never involves name calling. I am a real life environmental activist, silly boy, I have never made it a secret of who I am, or what my agenda is. I am very very interested in seeing Bush and company pay dearly for these wars, 9 11 and the Kennedy assassination and am more interested in what is going on at Alex Jones site then Buie's light dog and pony show poisoning 4UM with Stormfront grade hatred and bigotry. So you can untwist your little pink panties you have all in a knot there.
"For one that indulges in bad language and tends to call others names or hang labels on them, you are far too sensitive."
"Some people might even conclude you have an agenda."
+ + = #71. To: Ferret Mike (#70)
Lets get something straight... Firstly your nastiness is already apparent. Secondly it takes an adult to carry on conversations with other adults. Thirdly..I am not impressed by anyone that touts themselves. What you are or what you did is of no interest. What you do here is what matters. Your childish personal arrogance will bring you grief. You want to chat with adults here on this forum, the best way is to to show some social manners. Without those you are going to be ignored here.
Sonny, I am allot nicer then most people here, so you hush that silliness. I use quite a bit of restraint in language, after being a paratrooper almost nine years, I assure you I can be allot saltier. Besides, most of my rhetorical nastiness when used almost never involves name calling.
#72. To: Cynicom (#71)
No you get something straight. I have been patient, and quite civil. You obviously have not read me much or you would already know that. I do not like the name calling being directed my way. It was brought up recently by Bluie because he wants to bait and bother. Before you jump in, you should do a him to me search and see who is baiting whom. I am not here to try to impress anybody, nor be slandered. If you give me the grief Buie is trying to give me, I am going to respond in kind, that is just how it is. And I have done so with very little invective. I use only a little of that to empathize a point when I do. I am not impressed that you apparently like to jump in the middle of things without knowing much about the whys of it. Bluie has not been adult in the manner he choses to bait and accuse. If he wants to talk like an adult and stop his character assassination and dunning after the style of a Joe McCarthy, I have no problem talking to him or anybody here. I have explained quite patiently that all I require is for the games to stop. I have made it plain I am not impressed nor going to go on the defensive about it as he wishes me to. It is as simple as that.
+ + = #73. To: bluegrass (#16)
You'll never hear Corsi mention Chertoff's role in the SPP, for instance. Chertoff and his wife are bigdogs in B'nai B'rith. Thanks for the clarification. I had heard Corsi on Alex Jones once (discussing the SPP), It seemed he had researched that topic quite a bit but I remember Alex saying there was very litte he agreed with Corsi on. I knew quite a bit about Chertoff, and that he was sent to Canada recently about the SPP deal. But come to think of it his name didn't come up during the Alex Jones interview.
One of Corsi's tasks is to divert and control the discussion and debate to steer it away from the topic of Jewish/Zionist involvement.
"Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Ben Franklin
#74. To: Ferret Mike (#70)
You know not to whom you speak. Shame, shame. On the other hand, you include a lot of personal information that has nothing to do with your language. Or does it, I wonder???
Sonny, I am allot nicer then most people here, so you hush that silliness.
#75. To: Phant2000 (#74)
It sound like something working both ways. Shame, shame.
"You know not to whom you speak. Shame, shame."
+ + = #76. To: Ferret Mike (#75)
I doubt that, since Cynicom has more parachute time than you have had chowline time ... and not at a time when you were hooked to a line that pulls the ripcord for you.
It sound like something working both ways.
#77. To: Phant2000, Ferret Mike (#76)
I doubt that, since Cynicom has more parachute time than you have had chowline time ... and not at a time when you were hooked to a line that pulls the ripcord for you. If you two are going to use the thread to measure peckers, excuse the rest of us if we chuckle and aren't impressed.
It sound like something working both ways.
#78. To: Phant2000 (#76) (Edited)
Good for him. You sound like someone that is just into ragging on someone for the sake of ragging on them. I only served nine years, and I did not go to jumpmaster's school. I did the HALO course as my team was HALO. But I respect anyone who served regardless of whether it was three years or thirty plus. I read his comments he posted after I left to go do important stuff I needed to get out of the way and enjoyed his observations. I don't agree with the slam on Morrow, but so it goes. In any event, you have grumbled and ragged on me, someone you really don't know and I don't particularly know your or Cynicom; gee pardon the Hell out of me. Have a good Labor Day weekend anyway.
"I doubt that, since Cynicom has more parachute time than you have had chowline time ... and not at a time when you were hooked to a line that pulls the ripcord for you."
+ + = #79. To: SmokinOPs (#77)
Heh, Airborne on that one. ;-D
"If you two are going to use the thread to measure peckers, excuse the rest of us if we chuckle and aren't impressed."
+ + = #80. To: Ferret Mike, Cynicom (#68)
Your implied threat betrays who you really are, which has always been my goal in flagging you. Thank you for cooperating. I pray that someday you'll be introduced to the Truth. Until then, keep looking.
You should worry, because even though I do not work with the ADL, I am smart and have enough training and education to cause you heartache.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#81. To: innieway (#73)
I'm curious - did Alex bring up Corsi's work with B'nai B'rith or with the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission? I knew quite a bit about Chertoff, and that he was sent to Canada recently about the SPP deal. But come to think of it his name didn't come up during the Alex Jones interview. Red flag on aisle 666...
I had heard Corsi on Alex Jones once (discussing the SPP), It seemed he had researched that topic quite a bit but I remember Alex saying there was very litte he agreed with Corsi on.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#82. To: Ferret Mike (#69)
My only agenda on this thread is to see what your opinion of Corsi and his connection to B'nai B'rith is. Are you as big a fan of B'nai B'rith as you are of its propaganda arm known as the ADL? If Corsi is now an "extremist" according to the ADL, I wonder if that means that the ADL and B'nai B'rith have parted ways with Corsi. If not, then Corsi is exactly what I think he is: a false front agent for B'nai B'rith/ADL trying to hide with real American patriots so as to monitor and guide them in a manner pleasing to his masters.
you obviously have a different agenda then procuring easily obtained information from me.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#83. To: bluegrass (#82)
If not, then FERRET MIKE is exactly what I think he is: a false front agent for B'nai B'rith/ADL trying to hide with real American patriots so as to monitor and guide them in a manner pleasing to his masters. There, that's better.
If not, then Corsi is exactly what I think he is: a false front agent for B'nai B'rith/ADL trying to hide with real American patriots so as to monitor and guide them in a manner pleasing to his masters.
"nemo me impune lacessit"
no one provokes me with impunity
#84. To: bluegrass (#82)
You dont really THINK it, you know it.
Corsi is exactly what I think he is: a false front agent for B'nai B'rith/ADL trying to hide with real American patriots so as to monitor and guide them in a manner pleasing to his masters.
#85. To: Cynicom, noone222 (#84)
Yepper. In the deepest recesses of my heart.
You dont really THINK it, you know it.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#86. To: noone222 (#83)
And seeing how you have double naughts in your code word in from of yer 222, you must be a double naught spy for the infamous Room 222 spy ring!!!! Your masters are hard at work trying to make the world safe again for really dumb situation comedies with really horrible theme music and dorky kids with big hair. I wasn't going to expose you, but one well articulated spew of idiocy deserves another, every time. ;-)
"If not, then FERRET MIKE is exactly what I think he is: a false front agent for B'nai B'rith/ADL trying to hide with real American patriots so as to monitor and guide them in a manner pleasing to his masters."
+ + = #87. To: bluegrass (#80)
Heh, it is fun mirroring your overblown and self-importance a stuffed shirt like you emanates. Any game you can throw at me, I can make just as interesting a game and throw it right back at you. Of course as I identify myself and proving you wrong is childishly easy I can also sue you for slander too, which as an anonymous entity behind an account name you would have a much harder time doing to me. Nah, the only reason you have flagged me is to harass and try to belittle. You have an overinflated ego and feel as invulnerable as 'the fastest gun in town' in that part of the mythology of the wild wild west. You have been entertaining and easy to turn everything right around back at you, so actually thank YOU for cooperating. You are very amusing.
"Your implied threat betrays who you really are, which has always been my goal in flagging you. Thank you for cooperating."
+ + = #88. To: Ferret Mike (#87)
Mike... Are we having a tuff time with our English this morning???? Thinly veiled threats are a no no and am surprised you did not know that.
Of course as I identify myself and proving you wrong is childishly easy I can also sue you for slander too, which as an anonymous entity behind an account name you would have a much harder time doing to me.
#89. To: Cynicom (#88)
Not so thinly vealed slander isn't? I only point at an option, Bluie has been hard at work enough as his mental masturbation to point out what he already well should know is actually a yes yes. It is you who are having problems with their English this morning.
"Thinly veiled threats are a no no and am surprised you did not know that."
+ + = #90. To: Ferret Mike (#86)
It doesn't take much effort to see what you are. The ADL I.Q. standards must have been lowered to make exception for you.
"nemo me impune lacessit"
no one provokes me with impunity
#91. To: Cynicom, Ferret Mike (#88)
He sure is. "it is fun mirroring your overblown and self-importance a stuffed shirt like you emanates."
Are we having a tuff time with our English this morning????
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#92. To: noone222 (#90)
Heh, you think I work for small potatoes like the ADL? Wait until the grays get a hold of you, do you have some interesting post alien abduction biological implants planned for you.
"It doesn't take much effort to see what you are. The ADL I.Q. standards must have been lowered to make exception for you."
+ + = #93. To: Ferret Mike (#89)
English???? I rest my case.
Not so thinly vealed slander isn't?
#94. To: Cynicom (#93)
Sure you do. Until the next post.
+ + = #95. To: noone222, Cynicom, Ferret Mike (#90) (Edited)
Mikey still has some pending questions that he seems loathe to address.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#96. To: Jethro Tull (#10)
I suppose you are referring to my involvement with the MMP. Yep, last year in April I was down in Tombstone making a difference. You count the success of my involvement by the number of illegal aliens being watched. I count my success by public awareness of the issue and getting Congress off their asses. I win.
That didn't - and doesn't - stop some old, useless white men from sitting in lawn chairs and counting the MS-13 members as they invade America unimpeded.
#97. To: Ferret Mike (#94)
Mike.. The last one seems to have sailed well over your head. Here is a rerun...Your English is showing...
Sure you do. Until the next post.
#98. To: buckeroo (#96)
Ass....Connie Hair is the spokesperson for your "old useless white men in lawn chairs" border movement. She's a DC operative and NTBT (not to be trusted) No, I win....
Yep, last year in April I was down in Tombstone making a difference.
#99. To: Cynicom (#97)
What only exists on your head occupies too little space to sail over anyone's head. Your riddles are your problem, not mine.
"The last one seems to have sailed well over your head."
+ + = #100. To: bluegrass (#95)
Bluie has a little game he is loathe to give up. A patent my be pending for your own brand if nonsense, but that is your problem.
"Mikey still has some pending questions that he seems loathe to address."
+ + = #101. To: Ferret Mike, bluegrass (#37)
Spying and keeping files on Americans is not good. I assume you have no problem if they spy on you, right??
If you can't look at the ADL and see where they have done good work
#102. To: Lady X, Ferret Mike, bluegrass (#101)
Spying and keeping files on Americans is not good. I assume you have no problem if they spy on you, right?? It's where they are going with their "good works" that bothers me. The 700 Club has done a lot of "good works", but they scare the hell out of me.
If you can't look at the ADL and see where they have done good work
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#103. To: Lady X (#101)
I assume you have no problem if they spy on you, right??" It is evil to do this. It gives then the tools to oppress. With the right kind of information, the powers that be can define the crimes and formulate justifications for them. Allot of talk at Liberty Post celebrates the thought of 4UM and other sites being closed down as "hate" sites. They show the wag of the tail after their masters pat them on the head. Sites like Stormfront, LP, Free Republic, Democratic Underground and many others should have their right to exist as the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution grants prerogative for them to. The Founding Fathers were very wise in letting the consequences of speech moderate and control speech. Control of speech always comes from the top. Those who have control and fear others who can uncover the less then savory facts of why and how they became in charge and to get to where they are in terms of their money and property obviously are going to have the motives and means to control speech. People at LP should be careful about what actions of censorship they chose to hope for and celebrate if they happen. Being who and what they are, 4UM being closed would make their eventual closing only a matter then of when it would occur too.
"Spying and keeping files on Americans is not good.
+ + = #104. To: Ferret Mike (#100)
You have the five Ds of dodgeball down. Maybe you might get around to addressing the topic of Corsi, but I doubt it.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
#105. To: nikki (#0)
More on Corsi...
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