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Title: Freemasonry and the rabbis: Proof of the link
Source: Rome and Jerusalem (1862) via the World Zionist Organization
URL Source: http://www.wzo.org.il/en/resources/view.asp?id=1656
Published: Sep 2, 2006
Author: Moses Hess
Post Date: 2006-09-02 05:56:12 by bluegrass
Ping List: *New History*
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Views: 2337
Comments: 31


"...If I understand the author correctly, he expects his New Jerusalem to become the world capital of the fusionists. Salvador, furthermore, seems to cherish the curious idea that the Jews ought first to turn Christians, so that they may be the better able to convert the Christians afterward to Judaism. This work is, in reality, not as new as Salvador thinks; it began eighteen hundred years ago. It seems, however, that the Judaism of which Salvador is thinking is as new as his Christianity.

More reasonable are the attempts of those fusionists who, like my friend Hirsch, of Luxemburg, are utilizing freemasonry as a means to amalgamate all the historical cults into one. The Luxemburg Rabbi, the antipode of his namesake, the Frankfort Rabbi Hirsch, developed the idea of fusion so thoroughly in the excellent lectures which he delivered at the Luxemburg Lodge, and later published under the title Humanity as a Religion, that, according to him, the matter may be considered closed, All that remains for the rabbis to do is to close up their reform temples and send the school children to the masonic temples."

Rome and Jerusalem by Moses Hess, (1862)


For those not knowing, Moses Hess is known as the father of Zionism and Communism. More information on Hess can be found here: Moses Hess, Communist and Zionist

Douglas Reed, the great British journalist, historian and author, summed up Zionism and Communism in his work The Controversy of Zion:


...The 19th Century, in the West, differed from the preceding eighteen centuries of the Christian era there in the emergence of two movements with a converging aim, which by the century's end dominated all its affairs.

The one movement, Zionism, aimed at reassembling a dispersed nation in a territory promised to it by the Jewish god; the second movement, Communism, aimed at the destruction of separate nationhood as such.

Thus these two movements appeared at first sight to be fixedly opposed to each other, for the one made nationalism its religion, even its god, and the other dec1ared war to the death on nationalism. This antagonism was only apparent, and in truth the two movements ran on parallel tracks, not head on towards a collision on the same line. For the god who promised land to the nation to be gathered-in also promised to set it "above all people that are upon the face of the earth" and to destroy all other nations "with a mighty destruction until they be destroyed". The world-revolution, which pursued the second of these aims, thus fulfilled the condition set for the first of them; either by accident or by design, it too was doing the will of Jehovah.

That being so, the historian's task is to find out, if he can, what relationship existed between the organizers of Zionism and those of the world-revolution. If there was none, and the parallelism of purpose was coincidental, then history was evidently having a little joke with the West. If relationship can be shown, the pattern of the last 170 years prefigures the shape of coming events; in that case the world-revolution has been the handmaiden of Zion.

...The West has come to this dilemma through the pressure of two millstones, Communism and Zionism, the nation-destroying world-revolution and the new, nation-creating, ruling-class. The one has incited the mob; the other has gained mastery over rulers. Are the organizers of both the same? This book seeks to answer the question in its remaining chapters. What is clear is that each stage in the ruination of the West, during these 170 years, has been accompanied by successive stages of "the return" to the promised land. That is an indication of common managership too strong to be set aside unless it can be conclusively disproved. To the "heathen" masses of Christendom the process which began with the emergence of the world-revolution in 1789 has been merely one of sound and fury, signifying nothing; but the student perceives that in majestic rhythm it fulfils The Law and The Prophets of Judah.

The 19th Century was one of conspiracy, of which the things we witness in the 20th Century are the results. Conspiracy bred Communism and Zionism, and these took the future of the West in a pincer-like clutch. What were their origins? Why did they germinate in darkness until they broke ground together in the 19th Century? Had they a common root? The way to answer that question is to examine the roots of each separately and find out if they join; and the purpose of this chapter and the next is to trace the root-idea of world-revolution.

The Controversy of Zion


As world revolution (now incarnated in the Neocon faith of "exporting worldwide democracy") has been the haindmaiden of Zion, so has Freemasonry also been its handmaiden.

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO- 8859-1&q=JOHN+ROBISON+PROOF+OF+A+CONSPIRACY

Freemasonry and the rabbis: Proof of the link

THE FREEMASONS.....

The Noachide Faith in Masonic Sources

The Old Charges - A Return to our Roots

The Chevalier Ramsay used to declare: Freemasonry is indeed the resurrection of the Noachide religion, that of the Patriarch Noah, that religion prior to any dogma, which allows us to go beyond the differences and oppositions of the various faiths. [as quoted on the site of the Grand Lodge of France]

Andersonís Constitutions of 1738 could very well contain the seedbed of our religious faith and practice as Freemasons. While most masons officially claim that Freemasonry is NOT a religion, it is certainly religious so long as one has a proper understanding of the term and maintains a distinction between what religion is, and what religious means. Freemasonry opens its doors to men of every creed so long as they believe in a Supreme Deity, to whom all men are held accountable for the maintenance of certain basic universal laws, defined by Dr. Anderson as the moral law. In his 1738 [2nd] edition of the Constitutions he gave this moral law a name. The name applied by Anderson to this "moral law" was Noachide. (also variously spelled; Noahide, Noachite, NoachidÊ, Noachida).

The entry NoachidÊ, found in the ENCYCLOPDIA OF FREEMASONRY1 states the following:

"The descendants of Noah. A term applied to Freemasons on the theory, derived from the 'legend of the craft,' that Noah was the father and founder of the Masonic system of theology. And hence the Freemasons claim to be his descendants, because in times past they preserved the pure principles of his religion amid the corruptions of surrounding faiths. Dr. Anderson first used the word in this sense in the second edition of the Book of Constitutions: 'A Mason is obliged by his tenure to observe the moral law as a true Noachida.' But he was not the inventor of the term, for it occurs in a letter sent by the Grand Lodge of Calcutta in 1735, which letter is preserved among the Rawlinson MSS. in the Bodleian Library, Oxford. (See Ars Quartuor Coronatorum, xi., 35.) In The History of Freemasonry - Its Legendary Origins, Mackey devotes an entire chapter to the Masonic connection with the figure of Noah and so covers the topic more thoroughly. In that chapter he admits that "the story of his [Noah's] life has exercised a very important influence in the origin and the development of the principles of Speculative Masonry". Mackey writes of references to both Noah and the system of faith attributed to him, and cites several references from early Masonic manuscripts. According to Mackey, "In the Halliwell Poem his [Noah's] name and the flood are merely referred to as denoting an era of time in the world's history. It is only a statement that the tower of Babel was begun many years after 'Noees flod [sic]'." In the Cooke Ms more details are furnished about Noah, but they generally follow the Biblical account. From the time of the Dowland MS. forward, says Mackey, "the reference to Noah is exceedingly meager."

Enter Dr. Anderson

Mackey shows that it was Dr Anderson who decisively introduced the character of Noah into Freemasonry as a Fraternal Patriarch. Dr Anderson, in his Constitutions, refers to Noah and his sons as "all Masons true" and claims that the "offspring of Noah...dwelt together as NoachidÊ.". In Dr Anderson's first edition of the Book of Constitutions, published in 1723, he says, "A Mason is obliged by his tenure to obey the moral law". In the 1738 edition, he qualifies this moral law with the phrase "as a true Noachida." Mackey states that this was done by Dr Anderson "without authority". He goes on to say that the interpolation "was rejected by Entick, who edited the third and fourth editions in 1756 and 1767, and by Northouck, who published the fifth in 1784, both of whom restored the old reading, which has ever since been preserved in all the Constitutions of the Grand Lodge of England. Dermott however, who closely followed the second edition of Anderson's Constitutions, in the composition of his Ahiman Rezon, of course adopted the new term." Dr Oliver very much liked the term and "under his example, it has become of so common use that Noachida and Freemason have come to be considered as synonymous terms." But we have no way to know for certain that the change between the first and second editions of the Book of Constitutions was as Mackey proposed, "without authority". Proof of such authority may be lacking, but that is where the scholarly statement must rest. We are better off to seek the source of Dr Andersons association between Freemasons and what Anderson referred to as Noachides. Elsewhere in his work, Anderson states that "NoachidÊ was the first name of masons according to some old traditions". A study of the "old traditions" which may have influenced Anderson sheds some light on this subject. One possible source for the introduction of this term into Masonry is contained in a work known as the York Constitution. The claimed date of this manuscript is 926 of the common era, though this is suspected to be greatly exaggerated and scholars suggest an early 18th century date for this manuscript. This manuscript was one of three Masonic documents contained in the work of Dr Krause (1781-1832) titled, Die drei ”ltesten Kunsturkunden der Freimaurerbr¸derschaft, [The Three Oldest Professional Documents of the Brotherhood of Freemasons]. Quoting again from Mackey's History of Freemasonry it says, "in the Krause MS., under the head of 'The Laws or Obligations laid before his Brother Masons by Prince Edwin,' we find the following article. 'The first obligation is that you shall sincerely honor God and obey the laws of the Noachites, because they are divine laws, which should be obeyed by all the world. Therefore, you must avoid all heresies and not thereby sin against God.'"

It is likely that Dr Anderson, the theologian, found in the Noachide system, a doctrine that fit nicely with the universal theological thrust of Freemasonry. The root element of such thinking can be summarized as follows. According to Judaism, Christianity and Islam, as well as most ancient peoples there was a deluge in which mankind was punished for corrupting Godís way on the earth. The hero of the epoch, called Noah, by Jews, Christians and Muslims, became the progenitor of the post flood world. Legend accords to this figure that he was singled out by God for his unsurpassed righteousness in his generation. Since he was considered righteous amidst a world of evil doers, he must have followed some moral code. Various ancient sources record attempts to define this ancient code of morals and ethics. The Book of Jubilees, copies of which were found among the corpus of manuscripts discovered in the Dead Sea Caves gives one such enumeration of laws given by the Deity to Noah2. Judaism also informs us of this faith in various places within its sacred Talmud3. Jewish sages traditionally divide the laws that have universal implications into 7 categories. These seven ëcategoriesí are therefore known to Jews as "The seven Laws of Noah" or the "Noachide Covenant". The earliest reference to the "7" laws in a Jewish source lists them as follows; a positive injunction to establish a system of justice, prohibitions against idolatry, blasphemy (profaning the name of God), sexual immorality, bloodshed, robbery and the consumption of blood (or literally a limb torn from a living animal)4. In other places the actual number of Laws vary. However one lists or classifies the universal moral laws, it stands to reason that all of humanity is responsible for certain moral and ethical duties. It is this ancient ethical code, that according to Drs Anderson and Oliver, as well as Dermott, forms the basis for Masonic practice. This system of theology predates the ministries of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed and therefore is a fitting place for men of all these faiths to meet and function as partners for a better and more peaceful future. The John J. Robinson Center's Masonic Research Branch advocates a return to this ancient code of beliefs and seeks to promote its principles by pointing Masons to their Old Charges contained within Dr Andersonís work of 1738.

"A Mason is obliged by his tenure to observe the moral law as a true Noachide; and if he rightly understands the Craft, he will never be a stupid Atheist nor an irreligious Libertine, nor act against conscience. In ancient Times, the Christian Masons were charged to comply with the Christian usages of each country where they traveled or worked; being found in all nations, even of divers religions. They are generally charged to adhere to that religion in which all men agree (leaving each brother to his own particular opinions); that is, to be good men and true, men of honor and honesty, by whatever names, religions, or persuasions they may be distinguished; for they all agree in the three great articles of Noah, enough to preserve the cement of the lodge.> Thus Masonry is the Center of Union, and the happy means of conciliating persons that otherwise must have remained at a perpetual distance." (Andersonís Constitutions of 1738)

Presidential Recognition of this Ancient Code of Ethics

President George Bush signed an historic resolution of both Congressional Houses, recognizing the Noachide Laws as the "bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization". He urged the United States to take a lead in "returning the world to the ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws". This historically significant document is recorded as House Joint Resolution 104, Public Law 102-14.

As Masons, we believe that as good citizens and promoters of all good and virtuous causes, we should take a leading role in this worthy enterprise. By so doing, we would be fulfilling the Old Charges and returning to the founding ideals of our order.

Footnotes

1. ENCYCLOPDIA OF FREEMASONRY, and Its Kindred Sciences,&c. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D. 33ƒ. Published by The Masonic History Company, New York and London 1917. [back]

2. According to the Book of Jubilees (7:20ff), the list of laws are as follows; to observe righteousness, to cover the shame of their flesh, to bless their Creator, to honor parents, to love their neighbor and to guard against fornication, uncleanness and all iniquity. [back]

3. See for example, Sanhedrin 56-60; Yad, Melachim, 8:10, 10:12. [back]

4. This, first explicit reference to the Noachide laws is found in the Tosefta, a work believed to have been edited in the late 2nd century of the common era. [back]

Copyright The Robinson Center, 2001

http://www.public- action.com/x/nh-freemasontracbrd/

THE RABBIS.......

http://www.cephas- library.com/nwo/nwo_noachide_judge_and_courts_will_replace_ours.html

"Upon seizing the reins of government, the new Noachide leaders will move quickly to implement a full agenda of reform. ... Full support will be given to Israeli forces to reinvade PLO-controlled areas, with military assistance offered where necessary. Jewish courts ... will be granted full legal sovereignty over Jewish citizens within each country, who will no longer be subject to the authority of gentile courts.

The pre-existing Noachide judges and courts will replace the existing court system of each country, and the legal code will be drastically rewritten to conform to halacha.... .... And law and order will be fully restored through the establishment of internal security measures, again in accordance with Torah law....."

My computer is dragging, but you should look up the rest of this quote. If it is not on this article, look up Final War for Jerusalem at http://noahide.com. They claim to return the government to the Constitution and end all unConstitutional programs [i.e., the Great Society/welfare programs they used to ensnare the people, creating what to them are now "useless eaters" that need to be culled from their herd of cattle (slaves)]. They also will PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT [that we incurred being their cannon fodder and dupes and pawns to catapult them to Judeo-Masonic World Supremacy] **** 'PROBABLY' BY SELLING OFF GOVERNMENT LAND HOLDINGS [which is all public and private property in the United States, being made without our knowledge or consent [FRAUD!!] as collateral on the national debt, since they bankrupted us with their phony wars and usury piled upon usury for their 'great work' of creating money out of thin air, and using printing presses to create notes of DEBT, which they called by the name of 'money']. Note the current 'privatization' of our infrastructure, by selling off highways, schools [No Child Left Behind, doncha know], hospitals [Bush Crime family has bought many], etc. etc., as per Skull and Bones King George Bush I's EO on Privatization of the Infrastructure, Skull and Bones King George Bush I also having signed the Noahide B.S. into "Law". King George Bush I is also related to the JUDEO- British monarchy, which is controlled by the actual "crown", the Dragon Court et al of the "City of London", that "city" within a city, which goes back about 800 years.

The 19th Century was one of conspiracy, of which the things we witness in the 20th Century are the results. Conspiracy bred Communism and Zionism, and these took the future of the West in a pincer-like clutch. What were their origins? Why did they germinate in darkness until they broke ground together in the 19th Century? Had they a common root?

I think they did, but then, in addition to other evidence, I'd have to quote the Bible....[a LOT].

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-04   11:25:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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While most masons officially claim that Freemasonry is NOT a religion, it is certainly religious so long as one has a proper understanding of the term and maintains a distinction between what religion is, and what religious means.

Interesting Masonic Ceremony — Baptism of Six Children by Albert Pike, of Arkansas.


New York Times, October 1, 1865, pg. 5

Last evening, one of the most interesting, and, at the same time, novel ceremonies connected with Free Masonry was performed in Masonic Ball, Thirteenth-street, near Fourth-avenue, by the Thrice Potent Grand Master of the Scottish rite, ALBERT PIKE, late General in the rebel army, the Senior Warden being Gen. J. H. HOBART WARD, late of the Union army. It consisted of the baptism of six children, ranging from six months to eight years of age, according to the Masonic ritual. This being the first time this ceremony was performed at the North a large number of Masons, with their wives, daughters, sons, &c., were present, so that the lodge-room was crowded.

The ceremony took place in a Lodge of Perfection which was opened publicly. In the east on a platform were placed a font filled with oil, a vessel of consecrated oil, and a plate of salt.All being ready two lines were formed consisting of a guard with drawn swords facing inwards and the officers and members of the Grand Lodge of Perfection entered in procession to the music of a grand march by the organ.

After several alarms the parents and children entered with the godfather and godmothers, the latter dressed in white; the children who were unable to walk were carried on a cushion covered with blue silk, by the master of ceremonies; after him came a brother carrying the lighted candles, black, white and rose color in the form of a triangle, while the choir sing the chant "Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings, Thou hast perfected praise."

Then came the other children, two by two, then the fathers and mothers. The procession went three times round the lodge-room, the organ playing, and the chant still proceeding, while the Master and Wardens repeated certain sentences, the mystic sentence commencing "Suffer little children to come unto me," &c.

After questions asked of the fathers and answered by them, the children were brought to the front and an impressive prayer offered up by Bro. WILSON SMALL, as Grand Chaplain. This was followed by a hymn, and the Master informed the godfathers and godmothers of their duty, while the Orator in the North, the Senior and Junior Wardens, admonished them and their parents to be true to themselves, to others, to both country and to God. Another prayer was then offered, and tho children were brought to the altar.

Harrison Small McClenacban, Harry Sheridan Lee, George Small Anderson, Zoe Virginia Gibson, Anna Theresa Gibson and Charlotte May. The baptism was performed as follows : Placing the hand of the child in the font filled with perfumed water, the master taid. "HARRISON SMALL MCCLENACHAN" (naming each) "I wash thee with the pure water. May God give thee, and maintain thee in that innocence and purity of heart, of which this cleansing is a symbol." He next marked the Delta with the consecrated oil on the forehead of each child, being the symbol of the wisdom, might and love of God, and blessed them according to the ritual. After a hymn was sung all the brethern knelt and made a solemn vow, which they confirmed by eating salt to protect the children through life.

A locket was then given to each girl, and a ring to each boy, with the assurance that if they were in distress or danger they had only to send the locket or ring, and they would be assisted. A jewel was also given (the Delta,) with Masonic emblems, to each child, who was also invested with an apron, and the Senior and Junior Wardens proclaimed the baptism along their columns, after which all clapped three times, and striking the palm of the hand against the left shoulder, cried huzza three times. The Orator next delivered a discourse, and WILSON SMALL delivered an address on behalf of the godfathers. Two young ladies were then selected to make a collection. It was announced that the money so obtained would be given to some needy brother whose name would not be publicly known, if there were any such known to a brother present, or it would be given to the Grand Almoner, who would send it to a distressed brother, without the knowledge of anyone but the Master, and the brother would not know where it came from.

The Grand Master then said: "The labors of the day are concluded; may they be profitable to all. Go in peace; and may our Father in Heaven bless and prosper us in all our laudable undertakings. Amen."

The brethren then retired in procession, in the same order as they entered, and the lodge was closed.

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Interesting Masonic Ceremony — Baptism of Six Children by Albert Pike, of Arkansas....

The procession went three times round the lodge-room, the organ playing, and the chant still proceeding, while the Master and Wardens repeated certain sentences, the mystic sentence commencing "Suffer little children to come unto me," &c.

D*MN those b*sturds to hell!!!! I will have to read it all when I calm down.

Mat 19:14 — But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

http://www.blueletter bible.org/tsk_b/Mat/19/14.html

Mat 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

Mat 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

Mat 18:6 ¶ But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea......

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/Mat/18/6.html

Want to see some more of their asinine fun and games?

http://www.phoenixmasonry. org/masonicmuseum/goat_riding_tricycle.htm

Aw, shucks, it looks like they might have taken it down.

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Coincidence George Bush read MY PET GOAT while his co-conspirators attacked America???

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glossary_g The humorous idea that riding the goat constitutes a part of the ... So the riding of the goat, which was believed to be practiced by the witches, ... http://www.phoenixmasonry.or g/masonicmuseum/ glossary/glossary_g.htm

The Scottish Rite JournalThe goat originated from a game in which a blindfolded man would ride a rail held ... Photo: Courtesy http://www.phoenixmasonry.org. In today’s litigious climate, ... http://www.srmason- sj.org/web/journal-files/ Issues/jul-aug05/goldsmith.html

The Scottish Rite Journal Our younger brethren may not know that for many years it was believed by the general population that the Masonic initiation involved riding a goat. ... http://www.srmason- sj.org/web/journal-files/ Issues/jul-aug05/brjul-aug.html

Surfsteve's ForumsAn inductee would ride the goat blindfolded while being pushed around the ... Steve : " Apparently there actually is some sort of goat riding ceremony in ... http://www.su rfsteve.com/forums/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote& REPLY_ID=1884&TOPIC_ID=526&FORUM_ID=8 - 49k

Surfsteve's ForumsTo see an actual Goat Riding Tricycle ( click here ) A special " Thanks " to Brother ... The humorous idea that riding the goat constitutes a part of the ... http://www.su rfsteve.com/forums/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote& REPLY_ID=1885&TOPIC_ID=526&FORUM_ID=8

LodgeRoomPHA :: View topic - "The Goat" It could be that be that "Riding the Goat" is a symbolic representation of our ... http ://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/goat_riding_tricycle.htm ... http://www.lodgeroomuk.net/ forumUS/viewtopic. php?t=31&sid=494a2df12b48a1e8fdca8ae0e7bfb752 -

BAPHOMET.....

SATANIC SOURCES CLAIM KNIGHTS TEMPLAR TO BE SATANIC! THIS IS MORE ...The Satanic Baphomet symbol is the right hand symbol, of the Goat's Head ... "The symbol of Baphomet was used by the Knights Templar to represent Satan. ... www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1165.cfm -

MASONRY PROVEN CONCLUSIVELY TO BE WORSHIP OF LUCIFER, SATAN! Part ..."Baphomet is also known as the Sabbatic goat, in whose form Satan is to be ... Then, we discovered that Baphomet is officially approved as a symbol of the ... www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html

Freemasons Of Ireland (south) [Archive] - Vanguard News Network Forum Every time we see the symbol of the Baphomet we should be reminded of the ... the Jewish Feast of Tabernacles.........http://www.cuttingedge.org/free19.htm ... www.vnnforum.com/archive/index.php?t-8190.html

Vanguard News Network Forum - Freemasons Of Ireland (south)The hideous occult idol known as Baphomet (above) is the most widely used of ... The Satanic Bible instructs worshippers to place the Baphomet on the wall ... www.vnnforum.com/archive/index.php/t-8190.html -

BAPHOMET on the WebBAPHOMET on the Web. ... The name Baphomet seems to be a composition of abbreviations : ' Temp . ohp . Ab . ' which originates from Latin . ... www.newszoom.com/search/latest/Baphomet/web/ -

Knights Templar's Worship of Baphomet Here is a quotation taken from www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1165.cfm concerning ... "The symbol of Baphomet was used by the Knights Templar to represent Satan. ... www.cephasministry.com/masonic_ knights_of_templar_barphomet.html -

Affliations...[image]http://www.cuttingedge.org/baphomet.gif[/image] As you look closely at Baphomet, you will see the emphasis is on sex, as this Being is androgynous ... www.huntingnet.com/forum/printable.aspx?m=1524279 -

Armageddon Online - Thoth:God of WisdomBaphomet, if you are versed in Egyptian mythology, please lend us some of your thoughts ... Baphomet itself comes from Egypt with the goat god of Mendes. ... forums.armageddononline.org/ archive/index.php/t-2869.html

Pretty disgusting stuff, IMO. Joseph found some of his brethren, Dan among them, in the fields with their flocks. WHAT WERE they doing out there, that Joseph GAVE THEIR FATHER THEIR EVIL REPORT??

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-04   14:16:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, SKYDRIFTER (#15)

The important thing about the Masonic baptism article is the reference to using a black candle in the ceremony along with a red and a white one (the later colors of the Nazi flag).

In my experience, black candles are the tools of witchcraft, alchemy and the like.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-04   14:26:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: bluegrass (#16)

In my experience, black candles are the tools of witchcraft, alchemy and the like.

Should I call you "Sir Warlock," or something like that. Your "experience" in witchcraft sounds very involved.

With three different colored candles, why select the one color?

In any case, I've never seen or heard of anything but white candles being used in Masonic ceremonies. Is my "Masonic experience" worth noting?

Slimy accusations and posting of obvious hrearsay libel should be beneath the level of posters, here.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-04   18:53:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SKYDRIFTER (#20)

Black candles are used in Satanic rituals, Masonic rituals and Kwaanza rituals. I have little patience for people that make apologies for groups such as these.

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-04   19:08:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: bluegrass (#21)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- 8768114400602619096&q=documentary

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-09-04 19:10:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bluegrass (#21)

Black candles are used in Satanic rituals, Masonic rituals and Kwaanza rituals. I have little patience for people that make apologies for groups such as these.

I'm twice Past-Master of a Masonic Lodge & have never heard of black candles being used in Masonic rituals. (Past Venerable Master of the Lodge of Perfection of the Scottish Rite, also.) What's the basis for your supposed 'expertise?'

Your 'personal' assignment of 'symbolism' doesn't mean shit, against the documented history - versus slimy slander & libel. My citing fact is no matter of "apology."

If you have something truthful which is pertinent to the 21st Century, let's hear it.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-04 19:20:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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