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Title: Why The 9/11 Conspiracies Won't Go Away
Source: Time
URL Source: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1531304,00.html
Published: Sep 4, 2006
Author: LEV GROSSMAN
Post Date: 2006-09-04 10:12:37 by Zipporah
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Why The 9/11 Conspiracies Won't Go Away

Turns out, we need grand theories to make sense of grand events, or the world just seems too random

By

LEV GROSSMAN

Take a look, if you can stand it, at video footage of the World Trade Center collapsing. Your eye will naturally jump to the top of the screen, where huge fountains of dark debris erupt out of the falling towers. But fight your natural instincts. Look farther down, at the stories that haven't collapsed yet.

In almost every clip you'll see little puffs of dust spurting out from the sides of the towers. There are two competing explanations for these puffs of dust: 1) the force of the collapsing upper floors raised the air pressure in the lower ones so dramatically that it actually blew out the windows. And 2) the towers did not collapse from the impact of two Boeing 767s and the ensuing fires. They were destroyed in a planned, controlled demolition. The dust puffs you see on film are the detonations of explosives planted there before the attacks.

People who believe the second explanation live in a very different world from those who believe the first. In world No. 2, al-Qaeda is not responsible for the destruction of the World Trade Center. The U.S. government is. The Pentagon was not hit by a commercial jet; it was hit by a cruise missile. United Flight 93 did not crash after its occupants rushed the cockpit; it was deliberately taken down by a U.S. Air Force fighter. The entire catastrophe was planned and executed by federal officials in order to provide the U.S. with a pretext for going to war in the Middle East and, by extension, as a means of consolidating and extending the power of the Bush Administration.

The population of world No. 2 is larger than you might think. A Scripps-Howard poll of 1,010 adults last month found that 36% of Americans consider it "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that government officials either allowed the attacks to be carried out or carried out the attacks themselves. Thirty-six percent adds up to a lot of people. This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality.

Although the 9/11 Truth Movement, as many conspiracy believers refer to their passion, has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, it is flourishing on the Internet. One of the most popular conspiracy videos online is Loose Change, a 90-min. blizzard of statistics, photographs, documents, eyewitness accounts and expert testimony set to a trippy hip-hop backbeat. It's designed to pick apart, point by point, the conventional narrative of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001.

For all its amateur production values--it was created by a pair of industrious twentysomethings using a laptop, pizza money and footage scavenged from the Internet--Loose Change is a compelling experience. Take the section about the attack on the Pentagon. As the film points out--and this is a tent-pole issue among 9/11 conspiracists--the crash site doesn't look right. There's not enough damage. The hole smashed in the Pentagon's outer wall was 75 ft. wide, but a Boeing 757 has a 124-ft. wingspan. Why wasn't the hole wider? Why does it look so neat?

Experts will tell you that the hole was punched by the plane's fuselage, not its wings, which sheared off on impact. But then what happened to the wings? And the tail and the engines? Images of the crash site show hardly any of the wreckage you would expect from a building that's been rammed by a commercial jet. The lawn, where the plane supposedly dragged a wing on approach, is practically pristine. The plane supposedly clipped five lampposts on its way in, but the lampposts in question show surprisingly little damage. And could Hani Hanjour, the man supposedly at the controls, have executed the maneuvers that the plane performed? He failed a flight test just weeks before the attack. And Pentagon employees reported smelling cordite after the hit, the kind of high explosive a cruise missile carries.

There's something empowering about just exploring such questions. Loose Change appeals to the viewer's common sense: it tells you to forget the official explanations and the expert testimony, and trust your eyes and your brain instead. It implies that the world can be grasped by laymen without any help or interference from the talking heads. Watching Loose Change, you feel as if you are participating in the great American tradition of self-reliance and nonconformist, antiauthoritarian dissent. You're fighting the power. You're thinking different. (Conspiracists call people who follow the government line "sheeple.") "The goal of the movie was just really to get out there and show that there are alternate stories to what the mainstream media and the government will tell you," says Korey Rowe, 23, who produced the movie. "That 19 hijackers are going to completely bypass security and crash four commercial airliners in a span of two hours, with no interruption from the military forces, in the most guarded airspace in the United States and the world? That to me is a conspiracy theory."

It's also not much of a story line. As a narrative, the official story that the government--echoed by the media--is trying to sell shows an almost embarrassing lack of novelistic flair, whereas the story the conspiracy theorists tell about what happened on Sept. 11 is positively Dan Brownesque in its rich, exciting complexity. Rowe and his collaborator, Dylan Avery, 22, actually started writing Loose Change as a fictional screenplay--"loosely based around us discovering that 9/11 was an inside job," Rowe says--before they became convinced that the evidence of conspiracy was overwhelming. The Administration is certainly playing its part in the drama with admirable zeal. If we went to war to root out fictional weapons of mass destruction, is staging a fictional terrorist attack such a stretch?

But there's a big problem with Loose Change and with most other conspiracy theories. The more you think about them, the more you realize how much they depend on circumstantial evidence, facts without analysis or documentation, quotes taken out of context and the scattered testimony of traumatized eyewitnesses. (For what it's worth, the National Institute of Standards and Technology has published a fact sheet responding to some of the conspiracy theorists' ideas on its website, www.nist.gov. The theories prompt small, reasonable questions that demand answers that are just too large and unreasonable to swallow. Granted, the Pentagon crash site looks odd in photographs. But if the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile, then what happened to American Airlines Flight 77? Where did all the real, documented people on it go? Assassinated? Relocated? What about eyewitnesses who saw a plane, not a missile? And what are the chances that an operation of such size--it would surely have involved hundreds of military and civilian personnel--could be carried out without a single leak? Without leaving behind a single piece of evidence hard enough to stand up to scrutiny in a court? People, the feds just aren't that slick. Nobody is.

There are psychological explanations for why conspiracy theories are so seductive. Academics who study them argue that they meet a basic human need: to have the magnitude of any given effect be balanced by the magnitude of the cause behind it. A world in which tiny causes can have huge consequences feels scary and unreliable. Therefore a grand disaster like Sept. 11 needs a grand conspiracy behind it. "We tend to associate major events--a President or princess dying--with major causes," says Patrick Leman, a lecturer in psychology at Royal Holloway University of London, who has conducted studies on conspiracy belief. "If we think big events like a President being assassinated can happen at the hands of a minor individual, that points to the unpredictability and randomness of life and unsettles us." In that sense, the idea that there is a malevolent controlling force orchestrating global events is, in a perverse way, comforting.

You would have thought the age of conspiracy theories might have declined with the rise of digital media. The assassination of President John F. Kennedy was a private, intimate affair compared with the attack on the World Trade Center, which was witnessed by millions of bystanders and television viewers and documented by hundreds of Zapruders. You would think there was enough footage and enough forensics to get us past the grassy knoll and the magic bullet, to create a consensus reality, a single version of the truth, a single world we can all live in together.

But there is no event so plain and clear that a determined human being can't find ambiguity in it. And as divisive as they are, conspiracy theories are part of the process by which Americans deal with traumatic public events like Sept. 11. Conspiracy theories form around them like scar tissue. In a curious way, they're an American form of national mourning. They'll be with us as long as we fear lone gunmen, and feel the pain of losses like the one we suffered on Sept. 11, and as long as the past, even the immediate past, is ultimately unknowable. That is to say, forever. Subscribe to *9-11*

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0) (Edited)

The Bible quite correctly forbids the belief in conspiracies, since believers ascribe to "perpertrators" qualities only allowed to God -- omnipotence and omniscience.

"For Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying, Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof. Jehovah of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread." (Isaiah 8:11–13).

They were destroyed in a planned, controlled demolition. The dust puffs you see on film are the detonations of explosives planted there before the attacks.

Imploded buildings, which always have explosives at the bottom, always fall from the bottom up. The WTC fell from the top down, where the planes hit. I've seen several buildings imploded in real life, and they always went from the bottom up.

Not that the truth will ever penetrate the minds of True Believers.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-09-04   10:55:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

YT, why would a guy like William Rodriquez lie? Have you watched his story? After I did I’m convinced his material could be brought before a Manhattan grand jury and the end result would be an indictment against unidentified government co-conspirators. If you believe our government was complicit in both Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin, why is 911 a stretch?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-04   12:35:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

why is 911 a stretch?

Far too many "little" people involved.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   13:25:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#26)

The more I think about it Cyni, the less likely the need for "little people." Given you beileve what I posted about FDR and PH and LBJ and tGOT, it's possible to have pulled this off with only a small clique at top. I forgot to toss in JFK, which was also historical nonsense. His head went back and to the left on bullet impact - see Abe Zapruder for further details :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-04   14:21:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

the less likely the need for "little people."

Conspiracy at the top by plotters with shared self interest is one thing.

When little people or commomn people without shared interest are involved, a conspiracy will fall apart. Attempts to include common people into the cabal at the top are disengenuous.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   15:01:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom, Jethro Tull (#46)

Conspiracy at the top by plotters with shared self interest is one thing.

When little people or commomn people without shared interest are involved, a conspiracy will fall apart. Attempts to include common people into the cabal at the top are disengenuous.

As I've said before, speculation about who was involved in a 9-11 conspiracy by individuals other than the bunch of Ay-rabs---'cluding a bunch o' 19 o' them little, common Ay-rabs---that we're supposed to believe really did engage in a completely successful conspiracy to commit "terrorist attacks" on 9-11, is a pointless diversion.

The 9/11 Truth Movement at its best focuses like a laser on two outstanding issues: The "official explanation" for the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 does not make sense. Five years after the event, there is still no official explanation how the hell WTC 7 collapsed. Think about that one.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-04   15:15:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#47)

Think about that one.

I am sure most people have already given it a lot of thought.

9/11 like many other "conspiracies", will live on forever.

One side effect is that a few people will make names for themselves and some will gain financially by promoting its life.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   15:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Cynicom (#50)

I am sure most people have already given it a lot of thought.

Saves you the trouble?

9/11 like many other "conspiracies", will live on forever.

One side effect is that a few people will make names for themselves and some will gain financially by promoting its life.

Oh, really? So the folks in the 9/11 Truth Movement are just engaged in self-promotion? Wow, you can take Cynicom out of "Free Republic," but you can't take "Free Republic" out of Cynicom, now can you?

Well, guess what? I couldn't help noticing, having lost a friend in the WTC 1 collapse, that a few people ("big" people---not "little, common" ones that would muck it all up) have used a "conspiracy theory" of 9/11---you've heard it: 19 guys hijacking planes and flying them into WTC with the result that all of WTC collapsed in the course of one day---to gain extra-constitutional power, massive appropriations, expansion of government, "use of force" authorizations---not to mention "making names" for themselves. They've used their "conspiracy theory" to spend hundreds of billions of dollars and sacrifice thousands of lives on war in the Middle East, with no end in sight. And they're sure "promoting its life," too----they're using your tax dollars to do it on sites like this, and they get a lot more coverage and "promotion" than those 9/11 Truth people you gratuitously accuse of self-promotion. Think about that one, too.

Oh, off the subject, what was your evidence that Stalin was Jewish again...? I think I missed it the first time......

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-04   15:39:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#52)

Oh, really? So the folks in the 9/11 Truth Movement are just engaged in self-promotion? Wow, you can take Cynicom out of "Free Republic," but you can't take "Free Republic" out of Cynicom, now can you?

Resorting to personal attacks is meaningless.

If you have something of substance, germane to the topic I will be glad to discuss.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   15:44:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Cynicom (#54)

Resorting to personal attacks is meaningless.

You're the one who gratuitously...no, I don't mean to say that...despicably accused people in the 9/11 Truth movement as motivated by desire for self-promotion and financial gain. Do you withdraw that smear?

If you have something of substance, germane to the topic I will be glad to discuss.

How did WTC 7 collapse? Just answer that question. Substantive enough for you?

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-04   15:58:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#57)

How did WTC 7 collapse? Just answer that question. Substantive enough for you?

There is the government explanation for everything concerned with 9/11. Whether one accepts it or rejects it is for them to decide.

For those that reject the official "version", they are free to disprove it.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   16:37:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Cynicom (#58)

Would you support a real independent citizens grand jury/commission on 911?

Or are you satisfied with the governments version?

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04   17:05:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Kamala (#61)

Would you support a real independent citizens grand jury/commission on 911?

Mark...

Firstly, as my nic implies I am a cynical old man. (politics/government)

Support an investigation??? You better believe I do and would.

The problem would be keeping the "government" out of the investigation. In other words, let the chickens out and lock the Fox in the henhouse.

I spent my professional career in government service as a Federal drone so have at least a smattering of knowledge of how it does not work.

Satisfied??? Certainly not.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   17:16:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom (#63)

Fair enough.

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04   17:19:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Kamala (#65)

Fair enough.

Mark...

Fair enough what???

I have made it plain here that I have never bought the governments version of any segment of 9/11. Conversely I do not buy into the off the wall conspricy ides that float around.

It is up to the individual to use rational thinking on their own as to what is possible and what is impossible.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   17:26:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Cynicom (#69)

Define, off the wall.

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04   17:32:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Kamala (#74)

Define, off the wall.

You see Sam Danner posting here this past week?

I think that was his nic.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   17:39:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Cynicom (#75)

Yeah I agree there. As soon as I saw SD, I provided a couple links to show that his whole story was nonsense. As are other theories.

I've been questioned on forums because I will not support certain theories. I've also walked out on a couple lectures that I thought were bullshit.

On that topic, thats why I really don't discuss the Pentagon and Shanksville. Its a trap for all the "NO PLANERS". In every hit piece, the no plane theory is brought up.

Once in awhile I'll post something on the Pentagon/Shanksville. I read and keep abreast on credible sites and people that look into these two events.

Thats why you'll see me post alot of articles with timelines and such. Real credible proof that isn't debatable.

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04   17:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Kamala (#79)

The dog that didn't bark at the Pentagon is, where is the state-of-the-art video? They can't claim that all the cameras were malfunctioning like they got away with on the morning of the London tube bombings. That would be the morning that Bibi was told to stay in his hotel room in London. The morning of the coincidental ongoing terrorist 'games'.

Nope, this is the Pentagon. Where's the 30 fps high definition video of what really happened that morning?

robin  posted on  2006-09-04   18:04:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: robin (#80)

I know alot won't like this statement, but from everything I've read and seen, I'm leaning toward an airliner/aircraft at both sites. The Pentagon airliner was remote controlled and PA was shot down by the large debris field seen. Now I know alot of the evidence doesn't make sense, but there are too many eyewittness reports.

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04   18:14:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Kamala (#83)

but there are too many eyewittness reports.

Mark..

My indoctrination to "eye witness accounts" goes way back many years ago.

College professor is standing in front of his class giving a lecture. The door pops open, a person runs in and shoots the professor twice. The perp then leaves,

The classroom is in chaos. The professor stands up dusts himself off and tells the class what they just saw was a test. He then has them take paper and pencil, write exactly what they saw and heard, with no talk among students.

Of the numerous students no TWO students saw the same thing, no ONE student described the event without error.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   18:31:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Cynicom (#84)

Cyni, the eyewitness (Rodriquez) has a survivor (someone help me with his name) from the blast willing to tell the world what really happened.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-04   18:40:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Jethro Tull (#86)

the eyewitness (Rodriquez) has a survivor

I recall there being a survivor but not his name.

Re my #84..

In follow up questionaire to the students, asking for recall, the information provided became even worse. The option on many questions contained the answer.."I do not know"...That option was rarely used as the "witnesses" wanted to provide an answer.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-04   18:50:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Cynicom (#89)

Re my #84..

In follow up questionaire to the students, asking for recall, the information provided became even worse. The option on many questions contained the answer.."I do not know"...That option was rarely used as the "witnesses" wanted to provide an answer.

Give us a link to this "study." I want to see if it can be "impeached."

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-04   18:53:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#90)

There have been so many people gagged and threatened. Pilots, air traffic controllers, FAA employees, FBI/CIA/DIA agents, State Dept employees, firemen/policemen, the list is large.

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04   19:56:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Kamala (#94)

There have been so many people gagged and threatened. Pilots, air traffic controllers, FAA employees, FBI/CIA/DIA agents, State Dept employees, firemen/policemen, the list is large.

And I can see why now too: as people who actually observed the events of 9/11 as they unfolded, their testimony is inherently unreliable and likely to mislead the public. I hear there're studies that show this... [/sarcasm]

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-04   20:09:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#95)

inherently unreliable and likely to mislead the public.

This is off topic, but I just caught O'Rilleys' opening comment about the internet, news, information and blogs.

Thats what Bill was crying about. Fox and other news outlets can't compete with the instant transfer of news/info.

What he really is mad about, is the news/gov/corp can't spin the story the way they want.

Same with 911. The perps/globalists forgot about the internet, and how powerful of a tool of info it is. They are learning though. Look at the liquid bombers. This has been very tight lipped.

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04   20:20:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Kamala (#97)

The perps/globalists forgot about the internet, and how powerful of a tool of info it is. They are learning though. Look at the liquid bombers. This has been very tight lipped.

Yes, but believe me, it came out within days of the supposedly "imminent" and "catastrophic" terrorist attack that 1) the suspects didn't even have passports, let alone tickets; and 2) it was highly improbable that the suspects would be able to blow up even one plane with the liquids they were supposedly going to use, let alone ten:

A chemist involved in that part of the inquiry, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was sworn to confidentiality, said HMTD, which can be prepared by combining hydrogen peroxide with other chemicals, “in theory is dangerous,” but whether the suspects “had the brights to pull it off remains to be seen.”

While officials and experts familiar with the case say the investigation points to a serious and determined group of plotters, they add that questions about the immediacy and difficulty of the suspected bombing plot cast doubt on the accuracy of some of the public statements made at the time.

“In retrospect,’’ said Michael A. Sheehan, the former deputy commissioner of counterterrorism in the New York Police Department, “there may have been too much hyperventilating going on.” ----"Details Emerge in British Terror Case"

All of this was caught by internet bloggers and commentators weeks before the Times story I quoted above.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-04   20:32:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#104. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#100)

The same can be said about the "Pancake Theory". NIST has totally back away from this now. The internet pressure on this absurd explanation was relentless. Just think of all the books, programs and government sites that kept this mantra up.

I like to use a phrase that Arete uses. I call it the "Bang Your Dead" theory. The feds put out some propaganda, everyone jumps on it, discredits it, and "Bang Your Dead." Next!

Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-04 21:13:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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