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Title: Pat Buchanan's make-believe America
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/011270.html#more
Published: Sep 3, 2006
Author: Ryan W. McMaken
Post Date: 2006-09-04 21:41:25 by Burkeman1
Keywords: None
Views: 685
Comments: 66

I have never believed (and I still don't) all the claims made against Pat Buchanan (by people like William F. Buckley) alleging that he is some kind of anti-Semite or racist, but I have always been alarmed by his inability (shared by most conservatives) to recognize the incompatibility between his quasi libertarian side and his raging nationalist side. Some recent comments that a friend pointed out from this interview were particularly worth second guessing:

What do we have in common that makes us fellow Americans? Is it simply citizenship? Or is it blood, soil, history and heroes? Blood and soil? Uh, there is one word to describe this line: creepy. What's next, a speech on how we're "one people, one fatherland", etc.?

And then, there's this line:

The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality. Only an upper middle-class Anglo (Irish are now honorary Anglos) could actually believe this. The same faith? Um, isn't Buchanan ostensibly Catholic? How can he say this with a straight face? Does he honestly think that back in the good ol' days that Baptists and Catholics all thought they all had the "same faith?" There is significant evidence to the contrary.

However, if he is claiming that all Christians are pretty much the same in terms of cultural unity, then the new immigrants shouldn't pose a problem as only a tiny minority of them are non-Christians. Hispanics are virtually all either Catholics or Evangelicals. The Asians that move here are largely Catholics or Presbyterians or Evangelicals. Practicing Muslims and Buddhists make up approx. 1% of the population combined.

Mr. Buchanan should do some more homework on the religion issue.

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The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality.

The 1950's, as close to a totalitarian decade as this country has come, is what some "conservatives" hark back to and what they mean by the "good old days". The above passage by Pat is what they think existed at that time. It was then, and is now- a lie. That American never existed- except on TV. The first TV decade- tighly controlled by three networks all presenting a stultifying image of American conformity- Anglo, protestant, homogenized- is what Pat dreams of.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-04   21:45:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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That America never existed- except on TV. The first TV decade- tighly controlled by three networks all presenting a stultifying image of American conformity-

Many of us have learned that a lot of things we thought we so never were.

christine  posted on  2006-09-04 21:58:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

... a stultifying image of American conformity- Anglo, protestant, homogenized- is what Pat dreams of.

Are you talking about Patrick J. Buchanan, Phd?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-04 21:58:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The 1950's, as close to a totalitarian decade as this country has come, is what some "conservatives" hark back to and what they mean by the "good old days".

Well, let's not forget that the 50's caused the 60's. That psychological oppression led to a widespread cultural rebellion. Maybe some of those "conservatives" are hoping that, with modern social technology, it won't work out that way again.

Rabble Rouser  posted on  2006-09-04 22:08:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The 1950's, as close to a totalitarian decade as this country has come

You can see that in the rebellion and excess of the 1960s. People just got fed up with the control and hypocracy.

...  posted on  2006-09-04 22:12:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe I'm not so aptly named afterall.

Nostalgia  posted on  2006-09-04 22:32:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't see why you consider the 1950s to be totalitarian. Here are some aspects of the 1950s that show that decade to be LESS totalitarian than any decade after it.

1. Except in suh early bastions of "gun control" as New York and New Jersey you could freely purcahse MODERN firearms through in interstate commerce through the mail in the 1950s. Actually the main purpose of "gun magazines" at the time was adverts for mail order surplus gun companies. (Funny thing the crime rate was also LOWER than it was in any decade after the 1950s too.)

2. There was greater currency choice in the 1850s with silver and silver certificates still being a viable choice along with United States Notes as competitors against the Federal reserve Notes.

3. While there was full "compulsory attendence" schooling at the time and Home Schooling was out of the question during the 1950s there was a greater degree of school choice in the public school system than there is now. One could go for so called progressive education, traditional discipline education, prayer and Bible Reading or no Prayer and Bible reading all within the same public systems. Kids were also generally allowed to be KIDS in the public schools of the 1950s and not subject to education in "adult" subjects such as sexual perversion and "situational" ethics.

4. Even with driver's and pilot's licensing he right to travel was far more respected in the 1950s than it is now. This is what gave rise to the tourism industry. Today, probably even without the "War on Terror" to ease the transition for the NWO travel has become like being sentenced to an airborne or rail bound PRISON.

5. In the 1950s "eminent domain" was used ONLY on genuinely ininhabitable buildings in most cases and soully for the building of PUBLIC facilities like roads, airports, train stations, parks. etc. Now it can be used against virtually ANY property owner no matter what state of repair his property is in if the land in question is deemed "environmentally sensitive" or "critical habitat" for some obscure "endangered species". It can also be used against any property owner by NWO corporations to steal land and build new PRIVATE facilities on it.

6. Copyright and Patent were still seen as what the Founders of this nation intended for them TEMPORARY ENCENTIVE MONOPOLIES that returned to the public domain after a definite expiration date in the 1950s.

These are just some of the ways in which the America of the 1950s was much more free and less totalitarian than the America of today. If you really look into the 1850s i immagine you can find more examples that would show that was a less totalitarian decade that any that came after it.

Now about that conformity issue always tied with the 1950s. Was there really that much forced conformity in what for all intents and purposes was the decade of the first wave of Rock 'n' Roll????!!!! The so called "conformity" was actually a voluntary complience with the basic rules of etuquete, dress and decorum necessary to mantain a civilization and all we have to do is look at the CRIME RATES and GENERAL MORAL DEGRADATION of later "non conforming" decades that allowed the NWO to end the free wheeling trade in firearms that existed in the 1950s to see that trading the REAL FREEDOM of the 1950s for the faux "non conformity" drug use and sexual freedom of later decades may not have been a good trade off after all.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-09-05 00:42:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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