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Title: Pat Buchanan's make-believe America
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/011270.html#more
Published: Sep 3, 2006
Author: Ryan W. McMaken
Post Date: 2006-09-04 21:41:25 by Burkeman1
Keywords: None
Views: 768
Comments: 66

I have never believed (and I still don't) all the claims made against Pat Buchanan (by people like William F. Buckley) alleging that he is some kind of anti-Semite or racist, but I have always been alarmed by his inability (shared by most conservatives) to recognize the incompatibility between his quasi libertarian side and his raging nationalist side. Some recent comments that a friend pointed out from this interview were particularly worth second guessing:

What do we have in common that makes us fellow Americans? Is it simply citizenship? Or is it blood, soil, history and heroes? Blood and soil? Uh, there is one word to describe this line: creepy. What's next, a speech on how we're "one people, one fatherland", etc.?

And then, there's this line:

The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality. Only an upper middle-class Anglo (Irish are now honorary Anglos) could actually believe this. The same faith? Um, isn't Buchanan ostensibly Catholic? How can he say this with a straight face? Does he honestly think that back in the good ol' days that Baptists and Catholics all thought they all had the "same faith?" There is significant evidence to the contrary.

However, if he is claiming that all Christians are pretty much the same in terms of cultural unity, then the new immigrants shouldn't pose a problem as only a tiny minority of them are non-Christians. Hispanics are virtually all either Catholics or Evangelicals. The Asians that move here are largely Catholics or Presbyterians or Evangelicals. Practicing Muslims and Buddhists make up approx. 1% of the population combined.

Mr. Buchanan should do some more homework on the religion issue.

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#1. To: All (#0)

The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality.

The 1950's, as close to a totalitarian decade as this country has come, is what some "conservatives" hark back to and what they mean by the "good old days". The above passage by Pat is what they think existed at that time. It was then, and is now- a lie. That American never existed- except on TV. The first TV decade- tighly controlled by three networks all presenting a stultifying image of American conformity- Anglo, protestant, homogenized- is what Pat dreams of.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-04   21:45:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Burkeman1 (#1)

That America never existed- except on TV. The first TV decade- tighly controlled by three networks all presenting a stultifying image of American conformity-

Many of us have learned that a lot of things we thought we so never were.

christine  posted on  2006-09-04   21:58:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#2)

The 1950's are the golden age as far as Beltway "conservatives" are concerned. A huge DC government and enormous military- price controls- corporate/DC cronyism- fixed "free markets"- and a controlled medium presenting uniformity of thought and opinion.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-04   22:18:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Burkeman1 (#8)

The 1950's are the golden age as far as Beltway "conservatives" are concerned.

The destruction of the western world's production capability left the US as the world's only producer. The 50's were good times, economic wise, for the Joe-6-Pack blue collar worker. Cheap houses, cheap cars, cheap food, and plenty of jobs.

Now that was a sizzling economy...which none of will ever see again in our lifetimes. The 50's were America's peak. Even then you could see the cracks forming. After that is was a downhill slide as FEDGOV consolidated power, killed of the last of states rights, and fiddled with the money supply to allow for endless warfare.

America has become what caused it's creation. Another bloated nation-state with a complex and all powerful national government that grants privlages to its subjects if it's in a good mood and enough laws on the books it gives the books their own gravational field; plus it likes to dabble in Empire building every now and then.

As a friend who grew up in the 1960's had a teacher tell him: "You know all the rights we teach you about? They don't apply to people like you."

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2006-09-04   22:39:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#20)

Great post.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-04   22:52:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Burkeman1 (#31)

America worked as a multi-ethnic state so long as there was enough room for the various groups to seperate and live in like minded groups; but now we've run out of room. Some baby boomers were sounding the alarm on over population 20 to 30 years ago. FEDGOV went with "forced bussing" in hopes of staving off the inevatable. They just can't get though their heads that you can't fit an infinite amount of people onto a finite land mass.

I always defined an American as someone who was looking to escape the politcal follies of thier home country and trying to make a better life for themselves without outside forces hindering them. I guess I can't use than anymore. The US government is just as bloated and dominate as any nation in Europe or Asia and her people are demanding a nanny state as loud as any Frenchman or German would demand.

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#51. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#50)

but now we've run out of room. Some baby boomers were sounding the alarm on over population 20 to 30 years ago.

"Stop at 2"

That was so there would be more room for the new neighbors who think there's room for another billion here.

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