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Title: Pat Buchanan's make-believe America
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: http://blog.lewrockwell.com/lewrw/archives/011270.html#more
Published: Sep 3, 2006
Author: Ryan W. McMaken
Post Date: 2006-09-04 21:41:25 by Burkeman1
Keywords: None
Views: 826
Comments: 66

I have never believed (and I still don't) all the claims made against Pat Buchanan (by people like William F. Buckley) alleging that he is some kind of anti-Semite or racist, but I have always been alarmed by his inability (shared by most conservatives) to recognize the incompatibility between his quasi libertarian side and his raging nationalist side. Some recent comments that a friend pointed out from this interview were particularly worth second guessing:

What do we have in common that makes us fellow Americans? Is it simply citizenship? Or is it blood, soil, history and heroes? Blood and soil? Uh, there is one word to describe this line: creepy. What's next, a speech on how we're "one people, one fatherland", etc.?

And then, there's this line:

The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality. Only an upper middle-class Anglo (Irish are now honorary Anglos) could actually believe this. The same faith? Um, isn't Buchanan ostensibly Catholic? How can he say this with a straight face? Does he honestly think that back in the good ol' days that Baptists and Catholics all thought they all had the "same faith?" There is significant evidence to the contrary.

However, if he is claiming that all Christians are pretty much the same in terms of cultural unity, then the new immigrants shouldn't pose a problem as only a tiny minority of them are non-Christians. Hispanics are virtually all either Catholics or Evangelicals. The Asians that move here are largely Catholics or Presbyterians or Evangelicals. Practicing Muslims and Buddhists make up approx. 1% of the population combined.

Mr. Buchanan should do some more homework on the religion issue.

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#1. To: All (#0)

The country I grew up in was culturally united, even if it was racially divided. We spoke the same language, had the same faith, laughed at the same comedians. We were one nationality.

The 1950's, as close to a totalitarian decade as this country has come, is what some "conservatives" hark back to and what they mean by the "good old days". The above passage by Pat is what they think existed at that time. It was then, and is now- a lie. That American never existed- except on TV. The first TV decade- tighly controlled by three networks all presenting a stultifying image of American conformity- Anglo, protestant, homogenized- is what Pat dreams of.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-04   21:45:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Burkeman1 (#1)

The 1950's, as close to a totalitarian decade as this country has come, is what some "conservatives" hark back to and what they mean by the "good old days".

Well, let's not forget that the 50's caused the 60's. That psychological oppression led to a widespread cultural rebellion. Maybe some of those "conservatives" are hoping that, with modern social technology, it won't work out that way again.

Rabble Rouser  posted on  2006-09-04   22:08:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rabble Rouser (#4)

If the 50s caused the 60s (I agree), what will this repressive decade bring?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-04   22:10:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

what will this repressive decade bring?

Not much. The 1960's quickly veered off into sexual and drug induced hedonism. "Conservatives" today embrace much of the 1960's excess culture as evidenced by Limbaugh- indeed- while on the one hand they denounce some of the more bizarre fringeness of the sexual "liberation" they also praise it and embrace it as "cool" conservatives.

In the otherwise excellant movie "V"- they showed a government repressing "Gays" and enforcing a kinda surface morality. That isn't going to happen. We will have a government that looks much like the one in "V" but one that embraces "gays" and indeed- will actively undermine families while praising them.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-04   22:29:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Burkeman1, Cyni, all (#13)

The 1960's quickly veered off into sexual and drug induced hedonism

I realize I’m probably a committee of one, but I’d argue the legacy of the 60s includes the fall of communism. Despite every effort, the decadence of the West crept past the Iron Curtin and inculcated the Stalinist robots, beginning with our age contemporaries. Vodka rather than pot was their drug of choice and rather than tune out, they slept in.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-04   22:56:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

I realize I’m probably a committee of one, but I’d argue the legacy of the 60s includes the fall of communism.

I saw that in the Eastern Europeans in the early 1980s. They were about 15 years behind the times. Basically a bunch of hippies who thought their authoritarian leaders were full of bullshit. They wanted to party like the peeople did in the west.

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#38. To: ... (#37)

Yep, I remember vividly the black market for Jeans and Beatle records in the USSR. I knew the red menace was over once Rubber Soul took hold. So much for the bullshit Reagan legacy, it was Lennon and Jagger that killed the beast :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-04   23:03:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#38)

it was Lennon and Jagger that killed the beast :)

funny shit

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