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Title: Interesting Challenge to Goldi-Lox on the Secret Banning of aristeides
Source: El Pee
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=157121&Disp=37#C27
Published: Sep 5, 2006
Author: Goder_Peretz
Post Date: 2006-09-05 11:55:25 by ...
Keywords: None
Views: 1752
Comments: 58

I came across this on LP. Goldi just blew it off. No answer at all. In my mind this is the final proof that LP has morphed from a free speech site into a pure propaganda site. Not that I didn't know that before, but I didn't have any hard evidence to support my opinion until this came along.

27. To: Goldi-Lox (#20)

*SECOND REQUEST*

Did you ban aristeides? If so, why?

You've had more than one post from more than one member asking you about aristeides' evident "secret banning," without an announcement or explanation, approximately a week ago. You have ignored each query, even though you have found time to post materials such as an unsourced anonymous e-mail that you have excoriated others for posting in the past. Why don't you show some courage and integrity---some good manners even---and answer this question:

DID YOU BAN ARISTEIDES? IF SO, WHY?

Thank you for your prompt and candid response.

Goder_Peretz posted on 2006-08-31 12:06:10 ET Reply Trace

I wonder if Goder_Peretz gets the ax for raising an inconvenient fact.

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#1. To: ... (#0)

Good luck to him, but LP is a privately owned site and Goldi owes no explaination to anyone. It would be nice. It would be the right thing to do. But it is her site. If those paying her bills have no problem with her actions, then that's just the way it is. Considering the majority of butt- sniffers have come from Freik Repugnant, we know from experience that they encourage this sort of behavior, so Mr. Peretz should just vote with his feet and leave. That's just my opinion of course.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2006-09-05   12:14:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but LP is a privately owned site and Goldi owes no explaination to anyone.

Really? Then why post rules at all. If you post rules, it is fair to ask why a person is banned. All she need do is respond, with any stupid answer since it is her site. Anyone that stays and supports that site with their presence, is condoning that which they know is hipocracy. Free Speech as defined by the Lobby. THAT is what the rule is. Those that support that, are not not working from the same page Americans call 'free-speech'.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-05   12:46:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Really? Then why post rules at all. If you post rules, it is fair to ask why a person is banned. All she need do is respond, with any stupid answer since it is her site. Anyone that stays and supports that site with their presence, is condoning that which they know is hipocracy. Free Speech as defined by the Lobby. THAT is what the rule is. Those that support that, are not not working from the same page Americans call 'free-speech'.

You are 100% right. But being right is irrelevant in this instance. Goldi as owner of the forum has a lot of power, which she increasingly uses capriciously and even wantonly....and always unaccountably.

"Power tends to corrupt---absolute power corrupts absolutely." ---Lord Acton

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-05   13:05:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But being right is irrelevant in this instance.

(Red Highlight below added)

I do not agree with you on this point. It is quite relevant when you claim to run a 'free speech' site. There are RULES for such. Otherwise, your forum has to be registered as something other. I don't know if it would be a 503C and subject to oversight.. but I know, she calls it a free-speech site for a reason. I remember it being mentioned at LP, by Goldie, but I don't have the specifics without wading through all the posts. Whether that's a crock or not, I'd like anyone here to clear that up.

Also, during her fundraiser, she told people to leave the PAY TO line blank. (Though the donation page says to do otherwise). She said to do that because of the Patriot Act. If someone can explain this I'd appreciate it. )

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=147681&Disp=8&Trace=on#C8

8. To: All (#0) Reminder:

I prefer Paypal if at all possible. You can use your Visa, MC, or checking acct with that. And you don't need your own acct with them. Just click on the donate link at the top of the page, and follow the instructions.

If you send a contribution by check, checks should NOT have anything in the TO line. Leave it blank, and I'll fill it in. Otherwise I will have to return them to you uncashed.

The Patriot Act has made it impossible for me to cash anything with Liberty Post as the payee.

In fact, I still have about 6 or 7 checks that I have to return that the bank won't honor. I'll try to get to that this week.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-06-27 11:23:17 ET Reply Trace

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9. To: samcgwire (#6)

Do you accept money orders? Yes.

Just leave the payee line blank.

Patriot Act won't allow me to cash them if Liberty Post is in the payee line.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-06-27 11:24:46 ET Reply Trace

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283. To: liberator (#262)

I should have told you not to put any name in the to slot, leave it blank. Due to the Patriot Act she cannot cash anything with the name Liberty Post, is what she said.

The address is

Liberty Post 12 Carroll Street Suite #6022 Westminster, Maryland 21157

calawah98 posted on 2006-06-29 01:11:12 ET Reply Trace

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=147681&Disp=All&#C112

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194. To: baba_ganoush (#182)

Had a case of ID theft 2 months ago (wiped out checking account...still fighting it) so I'm a bit skittish about online transactions. Ohhhh Nooooo!!!

That is awful.

I understand the MO route. I have friends who have NO trust in banks and are cash only folks. Best Money Orders are thru the Post Office. Reliable and safe as cash.

Just send it without any name in the TO:

Stupid Patriot Act won't let me cash anything at the bank with Liberty Post in the TO: field.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-06-28 10:03:06 ET Reply Trace

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-05   13:35:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If I remember correctly, she cannot cash anything made out to LP because she would have to open a business account to do so. Since LP is not a business, nor did she want to make it into one, she asked that checks be left blank.

Also, I believe you are incorrect in stating that LP has government rules it has to follow. LP is not a non-profit nor not for profit business or corporation. It is a privately owned website/forum in which people can come together and exchange/debate ideas.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2006-09-05   13:53:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Also, I believe you are incorrect in stating that LP has government rules it has to follow.

To be clear, I did not say that, I said Goldi said it. I can not find the post where she explained it to another poster... but it was there for all to read. And, it was quite detailed. If I do find it, I will post it. Otherwise, I can understand why one would discount what I say, without a source.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-05   14:02:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To be clear, I did not say that, I said Goldi said it.

My apologies. I misread the post.

but it was there for all to read. And, it was quite detailed.

I do not doubt your word. Due to business out of country, I was away from LP for about 18 months, so I missed a lot of stuff. All I know is that LP is not the same place I left, nor is Goldi the same person she was before I left. She allows things now she would never had allowed two years ago. Which is her right, just as its my right to go somewhere else.

Fibr Dog  posted on  2006-09-05   14:13:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My apologies. I misread the post.

No problemo.

All I know is that LP is not the same place I left, nor is Goldi the same person she was before I left.

I've heard that sentiment before. However, posts from 2003 suggest she hasn't changed at all. IMO..

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-05   14:21:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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